enchante 4,542 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 I'm an evangelical Christian who believes in the Abrahamic God. Hit me with your best shot. edit: y'all i'm doing this because i love debating. i just want to hear opposing points of view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronx. 2,763 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felidae 2,742 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 ...why should people Let's have a world where theist and atheist can live peacefully in their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enchante 4,542 Posted December 23, 2018 Author Share Posted December 23, 2018 ...why should people Let's have a world where theist and atheist can live peacefully in their own. Oh, this is just for fun. I love a good debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
泉 5 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 God might be real to you but not to someone else. There's no point in "changing your mind" if that's what you believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarind 1,746 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 do u. ppl have different experiences idk y ppl dictate what u should believe and vice versa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeatrixKiddo 6,468 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Where he at Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enchante 4,542 Posted December 23, 2018 Author Share Posted December 23, 2018 Where he at Everywhere he's omnipresent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeatrixKiddo 6,468 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Everywhere he's omnipresent. Where tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enchante 4,542 Posted December 23, 2018 Author Share Posted December 23, 2018 Where tho If you're referring to in the past he resided in the Judaic temple before it was destroyed. By God's attributes, he's omnipresent in every aspect of the world. Physically he cannot be confined to one space like an object or a person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeatrixKiddo 6,468 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 If you're referring to in the past he resided in the Judaic temple before it was destroyed. By God's attributes, he's omnipresent in every aspect of the world. Physically he cannot be confined to one space like an object or a person. Sounds fake but ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enchante 4,542 Posted December 23, 2018 Author Share Posted December 23, 2018 Sounds fake but ok. How so? Oxygen is everywhere, can you see it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baby Pickle 3,725 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 To me god is real Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enchante 4,542 Posted December 23, 2018 Author Share Posted December 23, 2018 To me god is real noice, smort, toit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeatrixKiddo 6,468 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 How so? Oxygen is everywhere, can you see it? Under special circumstances yea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enchante 4,542 Posted December 23, 2018 Author Share Posted December 23, 2018 Under special circumstances yea You can see God too, just not in a traditional sense. Look at the world around you, does it really seem like this all happened by accident? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeatrixKiddo 6,468 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 You can see God too, just not in a traditional sense. Look at the world around you, does it really seem like this all happened by accident? lots of things happen by accident in science Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hormones. 886 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Lol sis, how do you know God is real and why is that God a male and not a female ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enchante 4,542 Posted December 23, 2018 Author Share Posted December 23, 2018 lots of things happen by accident in science So when earth was made it's just by accident that the axis tilt is at the exact point it needed to be for us to all not go flying off. The statistical probably of evolution is about 10 to the 40th power iirc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeInPlastic 873 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 If it's good and all powerful then why bad things are a thing Hit me with your best theodicy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enchante 4,542 Posted December 23, 2018 Author Share Posted December 23, 2018 Lol sis, how do you know God is real and why is that God a male and not a female ? God actually isn't confined by gender, he just takes on a fatherly role. And I know God is real because I've seen him work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enchante 4,542 Posted December 23, 2018 Author Share Posted December 23, 2018 If it's good and all powerful then why bad things are a thing Hit me with your best theodicy Because God doesn't orchestrate tragedies, that doesn't mean he can't do good out of those tragedies. Before the fall of humanity the world was perfect, it was after the temptation of the devil and the choice by Adam & Eve to sin that things like murder and lust and greed entered the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeInPlastic 873 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Because God doesn't orchestrate tragedies, that doesn't mean he can't do good out of those tragedies. Before the fall of humanity the world was perfect, it was after the temptation of the devil and the choice by Adam & Eve to sin that things like murder and lust and greed entered the world. But then why doesn't he stop it or "orchestrate" it back ? he can't or he doesn't care about us ? why he doesn't stop people from sining altogether if sining is just us being tempted by the devil ? is he just some kind of megalomaniac who enjoys watching their puppets suffer ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hormones. 886 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 God actually isn't confined by gender, he just takes on a fatherly role. And I know God is real because I've seen him work. Oh I see that's great you know this, however I never seen any proof of a God nor do I think that a God will only choose a few select people to believe in him/it/she/they. If anything this feels like a scam created by humans so people can be indoctrinated into believing a set of false beliefs and morals that they can't seem to rationalize when it comes to the ethics of that so called God and the many fallacies around it such as the "Appeal to Heaven" fallacy. But hey humans are all different some are just more easily susceptible to believe in anything so you do you, while I look at the objective reality and not a subjective one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enchante 4,542 Posted December 23, 2018 Author Share Posted December 23, 2018 But then why doesn't he stop it or "orchestrate" it back ? he can't or he doesn't care about us ? why he doesn't stop people from sining altogether if sining is just us being tempted by the devil ? is he just some kind of megalomaniac who enjoys watching their puppets suffer ? Let me answer your question with a question. Would you know that the dark was scary in comparison to the light if the dark didn't exist? Oh I see that's great you know this, however I never seen any proof of a God nor do I think that a God will only choose a few select people to believe in him/it/she/they. If anything this feels like a scam created by humans so people can be indoctrinated into believing a set of false beliefs and morals that they can't seem to rationalize when it comes to the ethics of that so called God and the many fallacies around it such as the "Appeal to Heaven" fallacy. But hey humans are all different some are just more easily susceptible to believe in anything so you do you, while I look at the objective reality and not a subjective one. In regards to your comment about morality, if not from God then where do morals come from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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