anxiety 5,043 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 I got negged for saying he deserves the hate he gets and for what? People think just because he went on some missionary trip to spread homophobia to some children everyone should respect him. Nah, fuck him and fuck Shindong too btw. Siwon is trash and will always be trash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louise4th 78 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 I'm curious, is SuJu the most hated group these days or what, is it a trend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DolphinGremlin 938 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 I'm curious, is SuJu the most hated group these days or what, is it a trend? Well SJ doesn't have the greatest track record. Several of their members have said some very bigoted misogynistic and homophobic statements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soman 2,951 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 What did shindong do? Did he also say homophobic stuffs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louise4th 78 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Well SJ doesn't have the greatest track record. Several of their members have said some very bigoted misogynistic and homophobic statements. Things are not going well for them since Sungmin's marriage, i'm seeing the pattern Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hormones. 886 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 I agree, trash belongs in the garbage. Not to be idolized. Fight me homophobes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimchi-nyoen 11,038 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 I got negged for saying he deserves the hate he gets and for what? People think just because he went on some missionary trip to spread homophobia to some children everyone should respect him. Nah, fuck him and fuck Shindong too btw. Siwon is trash and will always be trash What ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DolphinGremlin 938 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 What did shindong do? Did he also say homophobic stuffs? Well Shindong did say this: "If someone had to lose weight, I would tell that person to lose weight. Lose some weight, why can't you take care of yourself. When I say this, the person might think, 'Look who's talking,' but I would reply, 'I'm a boy and you're a girl.'" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjaetaes 390 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Well Shindong did say this: "If someone had to lose weight, I would tell that person to lose weight. Lose some weight, why can't you take care of yourself. When I say this, the person might think, 'Look who's talking,' but I would reply, 'I'm a boy and you're a girl.'" Click here to view the Tweet What ??? siwon is a missionary for unicef. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoonability 4,159 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Honestly I was a fan for a long time of Suju when I first got into kpop but they are certainly a group that have done questionable (at the very least) things/said icky stuff that their reputation is deserved... when I look back it makes me cringe. I sometimes see people trying to defend them and it's so stupid. They did all that themselves, plus they're millionaires, I think they'll survive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DolphinGremlin 938 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Click here to view the Tweet siwon is a missionary for unicef. Well that's good that Shindong is learning from his mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ddeona Oneul Bame 61,625 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 I'm curious, is SuJu the most hated group these days or what, is it a trend? They're just a convenient punching bag for most people~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ddeulgi 2,342 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 I'm curious, is SuJu the most hated group these days or what, is it a trend? They’re trash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjaetaes 390 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Honestly I was a fan for a long time of Suju when I first got into kpop but they are certainly a group that have done questionable (at the very least) things/said icky stuff that their reputation is deserved... when I look back it makes me cringe. I sometimes see people trying to defend them and it's so stupid. They did all that themselves, plus they're millionaires, I think they'll survive. i'd be mostly ok with this if i didn't have to read people making threads about how they want to ch*p shindong and sell his meat on the black market, or photoshopping his face on pigs, or typing out the different methods they wish to use to k*ll him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Ayy Big Gay 8,172 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 We only support cutie pie Heechul! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoonability 4,159 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 i'd be mostly ok with this if i didn't have to read people making threads about how they want to ch*p shindong and sell his meat on the black market, or photoshopping his face on pigs, or typing out the different methods they wish to use to k*ll him. I mean obviously that's not okay. I feel like Shindong gets it the worst because people don't find him attractive and thus shit on him easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelanatedBeauty 13,655 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Well Shindong did say this: "If someone had to lose weight, I would tell that person to lose weight. Lose some weight, why can't you take care of yourself. When I say this, the person might think, 'Look who's talking,' but I would reply, 'I'm a boy and you're a girl.'" The reason I won't hold him to this is because of this as a kid my aunt had the mindset of "Girls should stay inside, boys are allowed outside" like I literally would jump through the window to go outside and play (cause WHO STAYING INSIDE WEA?! NO HENNY I WANNA PLAY FLASH LIGHT TAG, I WANNA GO BIKING, I WANNA CLIMB TREES, I WANNA GO DUNKS PICKING I WANNA BE IN THE MIX NO LITTLE~!) In 2018 my aunt has wisened up, opened her mind and eyes and has changed this perspective. People grow, people learn, im pretty sure you don't have the same mindset you did 8-9 years ago that you do now.. If you exhibit through your actions, mindset and words that you have changed I believe you should be forgiven however henny if you still been doing and saying the same shit..issa problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNT-LEGGO 6,380 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Because some people can deal with one really bad shitty aspect of a person and just focus on the good, IF the good outweighs the bad. I do that all the time where I'm from, homophobia is very normalized over here. Of course, people, especially LGBT, are allowed to criticize him and distance themselves from him but also I don't think any less of people, even LGBT people if that's even possible, who still like him and continue to ride with him. It's all up to you and what you personally tolerate, and personally, I barely tolerate him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StepOnMeJas 3,806 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 We only support cutie pie Donghae! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjaetaes 390 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 I mean obviously that's not okay. I feel like Shindong gets it the worst because people don't find him attractive and thus shit on him easier. yeah, by what most of them write about him it's cause he is not "visually alluring". i understand why people don't like him and i don't hold it against anyone, nor against anyone who doesn't like sj in general (but I also have been around for so long, i'm tired of fighting). I just wish people would try to understand there is a fine line between criticising and pretty much writing out triggering things just for the sake of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rose. 4,207 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 y'all contradict each other so much. claiming things with no receipts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waves in the sand~~ 3,269 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Saying they're trash is very old and generalized, because not all members deserve the hatred they're receiving. I am not in favor of defending the things they do wrong, indeed, every time some member made mistakes, I felt quite disappointed (and depending on the member, not surprised) but I am still ELF for those who deserve to be loved and who, to this day, haven't disappointed me and I know I can trust them. In this case, I understand why you hate Siwon (yep, he apologized but did he learn? is he homophobe or not?). But Shindong? I can tell he learned form his mistakes. The thing he was hated for is from almost 10 years ago, he didn't said the same thing again, and now he defends the opposite. Everyone can make mistakes and we all can change for good. I'm not sure about the members who did wrong or really really wrong, but Shindong is one of those who really changed. Believe what you want tho. What I do is keep the distance and ignore those I don't like, without having to insult anyone. There are more members that I like than those I don't like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene_e 1,534 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Is he homophobic? What did he say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyShinki 689 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Cmiiw but both Shindong and Siwon? apologized I think Shindong still gets hate because he's fat otherwise people would've said "he has changed" and defended him just like they do it for other idols who have said or done shitty stuff, and I dont follow Siwon but I think he haven't said anything homophobic after his apology Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soman 2,951 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Well Shindong did say this: "[/size]If someone had to lose weight, I would tell that person to lose weight. Lose some weight, why can't you take care of yourself. When I say this, the person might think, 'Look who's talking,' but I would reply, 'I'm a boy and you're a girl.'"[/size] He already apologized years ago and never said it again. I thought he did smth new Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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