footballfina 29,566 Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 Japan had 238,632 more deaths than births in 2013, a record. Taking immigration into account, the total population in 2013 declined by 217,000 people compared to the previous year. Assuming the average woman has 1.35 children—a bit below the current level—Japan’s population is predicted to shrink to 99.1 million in 2048 and 86.7 million in 2060, according to a report by the National Institute of Population and Social Security Research. That’s down from 127 million currently. In 2013, Japan had 1,029,800 births, the fewest on record since World War II. The number of births has been on the decline since the end of the second baby boom in 1973. Women are having slightly more children but still well below replacement rate. The total fertility rate in 2013 was 1.43, a 0.02-point increase from 2012. The figure represents the number of children an average woman will bear in a lifetime based on fertility data from a given year. The total fertility rate has been gradually rising since hitting a record low of 1.26 in 2005, but is still from the level—slightly above 2.0—needed to keep population steady over the long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzuran 353 Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h0neanias 13,516 Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 That's not a problem, that's a solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mika613 843 Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 At least its still rising compared to before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emi95chan 313 Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 You can't force people to reproduct Gladly or.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgl 5,919 Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 That's not a problem, that's a solution. Not if most of the population is all old people that don't work. It a recipe for economical collapse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Eight 6,542 Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 The world would do some good if people didn't replicate so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WON Hallyu 18,527 Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 Those damn sex robots/dolls are taking over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abra 40,910 Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 Not if most of the population is all old people that don't work. It a recipe for economical collapse. They can make robots for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keudaeyeoooo~ 498 Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 That's not a problem, that's a solution. ^This tbh. The world is already overpopulated and resources are running out. Not if most of the population is all old people that don't work. It a recipe for economical collapse. Then Japan should start the stimulation of work migrants. Give those people in other parts of Asia and in Africa a job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Substation 1,388 Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 Let the robots do the work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noon 20,968 Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 i watched something on cnn or somewhere a while a go that talked about this. they said that rather than increase the domestic propagation (basically babies) japan should be more open to foreigners. it was really interesting i'll try and find the video for you, op. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KayKay 511 Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 Good. We need the popularity to shrink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikynik345 2,366 Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 Honestly... I don't blame people for deciding to either not have kids or to have very few kids. There is absolutely no reason to have more than 2 or at the most 3 kids. People would have a ton of kids WAY back in the day in order to have more people to help around the house or on the farm and to take care of the parents when they grew old but now people are able to make enough money to take care of themselves. Also in the past the family unit was all you had, but now in days you can have extended family as your friends and they can serve the same purpose as blood relations do. People are much more independent now in days and out side of the family there are a lot more dependable people you can feel safe to count on so that Family isn't the only resource people have now. Japan has finally caught onto what many other Western countries have figured out.. you don't need 10 kids in your family in order to survive. Any way, I'm still debating on whether I want to have kids of my own... bringing kids into this f'd up world seems more of a punishment than a gift and I'm not sure my genes are something I want to pass on to someone else anyways. I think the world would be better off if I was never a mother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikynik345 2,366 Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 The world would do some good if people didn't replicate so much. LMAO!! Agreed... certain people should NOT be parents!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sana Muñequita Linda 2,566 Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 It seems that the "Don't have kids because it's egoistical and the world has already too much humans and kids without any support" is not an unpopular opinion any more... Honestly... I don't blame people for deciding to either not have kids or to have very few kids. There is absolutely no reason to have more than 2 or at the most 3 kids. People would have a ton of kids WAY back in the day in order to have more people to help around the house or on the farm and to take care of the parents when they grew old but now people are able to make enough money to take care of themselves. Also in the past the family unit was all you had, but now in days you can have extended family as your friends and they can serve the same purpose as blood relations do. People are much more independent now in days and out side of the family there are a lot more dependable people you can feel safe to count on so that Family isn't the only resource people have now. Japan has finally caught onto what many other Western countries have figured out.. you don't need 10 kids in your family in order to survive. Any way, I'm still debuting on whether I want to have kids of my own... bringing kids into this f'd up world seems more of a punishment than a gift and I'm not sure my genes are something I want to pass on to someone else anyways. I think the world would be better off if I was never a mother. Do as you want, it's your choice, I won't be judging you personally. But I do think the same as you with the part in bold. I'm the second of three siblings and I don't want to have offspring because I don't think that I'm able to raise a person to become a decent human being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h0neanias 13,516 Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 Not if most of the population is all old people that don't work. It a recipe for economical collapse. People have to eat. That goes before anything -- before freedom, before wealth, before politics. Food. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footballfina 29,566 Posted June 6, 2014 Author Share Posted June 6, 2014 That's not a problem, that's a solution. The world is already overpopulated and resources are running out. lol nope, overpopulation is a myth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h0neanias 13,516 Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 lol nope, overpopulation is a myth Bullshit. Overpopulation has nothing to do with a society reproducing itself and everything to do with a society's resource base. As it shrinks, the sustainable population becomes smaller. Thus, what the video says is true but irrelevant to the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikynik345 2,366 Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 It seems that the "Don't have kids because it's egoistical and the world has already too much humans and kids without any support" is not an unpopular opinion any more... Do as you want, it's your choice, I won't be judging you personally. But I do think the same as you with the part in bold. I'm the second of three siblings and I don't want to have offspring because I don't think that I'm able to raise a person to become a decent human being. Your a middle child too!! I am, well.. I'm a twin but I'm the oldest by 9 minutes. Maybe we have middle child syndrome? lol J/K I think we just have an objective and realistic view on the world and what life is all about. In the past people would birth children as a way to continue on the family legacy but seriously... if your family has a long history of poor heart health and a large percent of people born in your family end up dying of heart failure or of diabetes maybe you should go see a geneticists and fix that problem before you bring another unhealthy human being into the world. I'm not talking about eugenics, I'm talking about making the right choices for your future kids. I know I'm struggling with health issues that could have been avoided if I was raised properly and if my parents would have looked up their family health history beforehand in order to make sure I was given preventative measures before it was too late. If your family has a history of poor health, isn't it wise to teach your children how to be healthier so that they can avoid a viscous cycle. Sorry for my rant... It's just... parents today don't even have the foresight to prevent what has happened to their parents and to their parent's parents. It isn't that hard to use birth control or to just be better parents. *SMH* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PALEMOCHI 3,696 Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 Not if most of the population is all old people that don't work. It a recipe for economical collapse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzz 1,238 Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 ^This tbh. The world is already overpopulated and resources are running out. Then Japan should start the stimulation of work migrants. Give those people in other parts of Asia and in Africa a job. they tried and failed. they had a project of importing SEA nurses but that's a big failure. the japanese couldn't speak english or any foreign language and the imported nurse had to fluent in japanese to communicate with the local but japanese was extremely complicated and less than 10 participants passed the language exam each year (the nurse has to be fluent not just in everyday language but also medical terms). the society is tough for the foreigner too. japan is an island country and monopolized with only one ethnic group since forever. most immigrant labors can't bear it for more than 3 years. a reason to this disaster is the economic crisis which urges woman to work. japanese woman usually married young and becomes housewife after the marriage. but, due to the economic crisis, just one labor cannot feed the whole family so, women have to work leaving no one to raise the child at home. no baby is the only solution. the japanese seems to desperate with the problem and SMEs have migrated to thailand. singapore is more friendly to foreigners but the country is suffered by the declining number of population too. i believe south korea has low birthrate too. how high is the percentage of idols who have more than one sibling? korea isn't any more friendly to the foreigner than japan. People have to eat. That goes before anything -- before freedom, before wealth, before politics. Food. that's arguable. sometimes, people starve themselves for freedom or faith. Maslow's hierarchy of needs can't be applied to all cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
...... 3,962 Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 that's arguable. sometimes, people starve themselves for freedom or faith. Maslow's hierarchy of needs can't be applied to all cases. ...... i mean.... it's arguable because some people choose .... not ... to eat.... but they die..... food is still a necessity..... to live..... people who choose life.... do indeed... need food.... and technically...people who choose to live... do indeed... need food over freedom...wealth ... and politics.... the only way....to refute this order....would be.... if food...was completely controlled by politics....and wealth.... thus...those would have to become priority.... but even then.... it doesn't negate the fundamental truth....that people need sustenance...to survive. The other things.... wealth....and politcs....would become a means...to the necessary end....being food... full circle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocumentaLy 6,033 Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 The world would do some good if people didn't replicate so much. ^This tbh. The world is already overpopulated and resources are running out. Good. We need the popularity to shrink. We don't need the population of developed countries to shrink, just the populations of poor countries. they tried and failed. they had a project of importing SEA nurses but that's a big failure. the japanese couldn't speak english or any foreign language and the imported nurse had to fluent in japanese to communicate with the local but japanese was extremely complicated and less than 10 participants passed the language exam each year (the nurse has to be fluent not just in everyday language but also medical terms). the society is tough for the foreigner too. japan is an island country and monopolized with only one ethnic group since forever. most immigrant labors can't bear it for more than 3 years. a reason to this disaster is the economic crisis which urges woman to work. japanese woman usually married young and becomes housewife after the marriage. but, due to the economic crisis, just one labor cannot feed the whole family so, women have to work leaving no one to raise the child at home. no baby is the only solution. the japanese seems to desperate with the problem and SMEs have migrated to thailand. singapore is more friendly to foreigners but the country is suffered by the declining number of population too. i believe south korea has low birthrate too. how high is the percentage of idols who have more than one sibling? korea isn't any more friendly to the foreigner than japan. that's arguable. sometimes, people starve themselves for freedom or faith. Maslow's hierarchy of needs can't be applied to all cases. Yeah, I wonder why people never say much about Korea's population collapse in the making... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuu-sus 847 Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 they are so fucked, like who is gonna pay for all the taxes to support all these geezers and of course they are already hopelessly in debt I think the whole overpopulation talk could only work unless they didn't live so damn long, I mean you need a newer generation to keep the triangle balanced Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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