Danee Danee 5,179 Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 Like... Second gen got some gems like 4minute, Davichi, Secret, Sistar, Apink, T-ARA, AOA, Girls Day, Exid and many, many more who got several hits and was recognized national wide. But so far this generation of mid-tier companies got only Gfriend, Mamamoo (both from new companies), G-Idle (from rstablished company) and Momoland (who seems to be one hit wonders). Others has their strenghts but have no hits and arent really recognized imo. And we are already almost in fifth year of this gen. Wonder what happened... Disclaimer: Personally I love most of the groups, its not dis for them. More like curiosity about possibly bad managment choices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rie 2.0 962 Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 Because people overhyped the popular ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katsu curry chips 7,808 Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 Um. You literally forgot like 15 groups who all serve bops. And gfriend cant possibly still be counted as pure mid tier. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eunjo 7,657 Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 It's what happens when the market gets saturated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maho 37 Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 It's harder for idol groups to make it. The novelty and craze isn't here anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neopoli 137 Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 gfriend and mamamoo are midtier on what planet? when someone says midtier I think oh my girl and wjsn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vroom 3,221 Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 gfriend and mamamoo are midtier on what planet? when someone says midtier I think oh my girl and wjsn op's the type that puts any non-big 3 gg into mid tier judging from their 2nd gen line-up kek i mean i can only pray my faves get as much success as 'mid tier' groups like sistar and t-ara and apink etc. so it's honestly a compliment, really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobalt 2,914 Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 gfriend and mamamoo are midtier on what planet? when someone says midtier I think oh my girl and wjsn Yea same, and I think OP forgot a lot of other groups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amal.ha 6,674 Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 gfriend and mamamoo are midtier on what planet? when someone says midtier I think oh my girl and wjsn Op is talking about Mid-tier companies not that these groups are mid-tier . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tho 120 Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 gfriend and mamamoo are midtier on what planet? when someone says midtier I think oh my girl and wjsn not top tier either, tops are: exo twice bts and 1x1 i'll say high mid tier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neopoli 137 Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 Op is talking about Mid-tier companies not that these groups are mid-tier . idk how to rank a company that has like one group though honestly so hm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tide 14,243 Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 gfriend and mamamoo are top tier.also sistar, tara, and apink were considered top tier ggs and at one point 4minute, secret, and aoa were too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdtwfs 3,600 Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 gfriend and mamamoo are midtier on what planet? when someone says midtier I think oh my girl and wjsn Their companies are mid-tier not the groups. Op is questioning why the number of successful groups from mid-tier companies are so low in comparison to 2nd gen. Mamamoo and Gfriend are successful from mid-tier companies but they’re asking why groups like wjsn and omg don’t have any hit songs from a mid-tier company whereas 2nd gen groups from mid-tier companies like AOA and 4minute DID have hit songs/ were popular. Because people overhyped the popular ones.^ I think this is the reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classiq 2,225 Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 mid-tier companies are doing decently. oh my girl, lovelyz, mamamoo, momoland, gfriend I would agree that its not as impactful as older mid-tier groups like sistar, girls day, t-ara etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoraKaiBae 1,478 Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 ohh! I thought they're 3rd gen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acer 396 Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 it's harder now unless from big 3.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danee Danee 5,179 Posted December 7, 2018 Author Share Posted December 7, 2018 gfriend and mamamoo are top tier. also sistar, tara, and apink were considered top tier ggs and at one point 4minute, secret, and aoa were too. Yop. Thats what Im basically talking about. This gen lack in the area of top groups from mid tier companies(without backing of big3 companies). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drama Drama Drama 3,399 Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 It's what happens when the market gets saturated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danee Danee 5,179 Posted December 7, 2018 Author Share Posted December 7, 2018 Because people overhyped the popular ones. Dont think that Red Velvet, Twice and BlackPink are so terribly overhyped in comparision with SNSD, Wonder Girls and 2NE1. All of them was overhyped by fans. Even though there was still even KARA, Fx, MissA. So lets say there was even more big company groups. Yet mid tier companies smashed too. Like... Now we got big number of groups with first win but without any recognition. Like as far as AfterSchool was unlucky with their wins county they got more recognized songs as lets say OMG who has the same win count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danni_iu_jess 1,733 Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 probably because everyone is just too focus on the 3 Big3 girlgroups. G-Idle and Loona are probably the only ones beside those 3 who have a strong international fandom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silicon soul 19,457 Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 That's what I've been saying all this time. The big 3 will always do well but they alone can't sustain the idol scene, it needs more versatility. Public has lost a lot of interest in kpop as a whole Like what if the big 3 can't make an event or concert, can the others bring in a decent size buzz/attendees? Outside a couple groups most probably not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilraen92 9,334 Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 Aren't AOA and EXID considered 3rd gen already though? Since they debuted in 2012. But in general I agree that 2nd gen ggs even from mid-tier companies had bigger hits. The hits from Gfriend, Mamamoo, Momoland, etc don't seem to have the same impact as the hits from T-ara, Sistar, Secret, 4 minute, etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danee Danee 5,179 Posted December 8, 2018 Author Share Posted December 8, 2018 Aren't AOA and EXID considered 3rd gen already though? Since they debuted in 2012. But in general I agree that 2nd gen ggs even from mid-tier companies had bigger hits. The hits from Gfriend, Mamamoo, Momoland, etc don't seem to have the same impact as the hits from T-ara, Sistar, Secret, 4 minute, etc I would say AOA, Exid etc are mid gen groups. Imo 3rd gen of girl groups started in 2014. In 2012 second gen was still peaking. For boy groups it would be the 2012 with debut of EXO or 2013. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RosaRosa 3,584 Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 off topic but so people in OH consider AOA 2nd gen but EXO 3rd gen? I would say AOA, Exid etc are mid gen groups. Imo 3rd gen of girl groups started in 2014. In 2012 second gen was still peaking. For boy groups it would be the 2012 with debut of EXO or 2013. Oh I see you already answered but this is pretty funny how generations are different for ggs and bgs lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fourplay 5,217 Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 Saturated market and A lot of smaller companies relies on survival shows these days instead of trying to bring in something to compete against girl group from bigger companies. Even with older vs new gen boy groups I feel like there's a bit more variety when it comes to the music older gen puts out meanwhile boy groups these days follows the same formula that worked for other boy groups Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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