Oliver 22,442 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Both U-Kiss & After School are great groups and are highly underrated and under appreciated.. What do you think is the main reason for that? My conclusion is that its because of the constant line up changes.. but what do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebrasoma 184 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 After School's underratedness is because of Pledis's crap management. Member changes are for the better imo (it gave the group Raina, Nana, Uee, etc.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monolid 1,212 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 you putting after school on the same lvl as u-kiss pains me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PD101 Rep: BoA 1,183 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 They both missed the boat, for separate reasons. Let's take a look at the differences between the two. In the case of After School, I think Pledis made a huge series of mistakes in terms of marketing. They started out with a "Korean Pussycat Dolls" concept, which surely wasn't the issue because Korea has no issue with sexy concepts. The issue started when they began adding members for no true purpose, only to shove them behind the ever-dominating Kahi. They added new members to the group, shoved them into Orange Caramel, and then instead of keeping that sugar sweet image separate from After School as a whole, they reunited Orange Caramel with After School and tried to combine the images with "Shampoo". Then, they created After School Red and Blue, which is a concept that they should have been doing anyway with Orange Caramel and AS as a whole. To make matters worse...they are still adding more members. It feels like career began being made up on the spot later on and there was no clear direction for them to go, and it didn't help that Kahi dominated nearly every aspect of the group so the rest of them had no identity without her/because of her. In the case of U-Kiss, I think their issue is simply that Korea is very unforgiving and they missed their window of opportunity. They lagged behind in nearly every aspect in their early days and by that time the public had already made up their mind about them which is a true shame because they began getting quite good around "Mworago". Luckily they've stabilized and are respectable in their own right but they'll never be a top group, which honestly I feel they're probably fine with considering how close they were to failing. At least they can flaunt how much they've improved because their songs and choreography have been consistently great for a long time now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
...... 3,962 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 you putting after school on the same lvl as u-kiss pains me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimchi 19,921 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Afterschool, Lineup changes. This shit just doesn't work with K-pop tbh. U-kiss their debut song was really bad and they've always been overshadowed by someone bigger than them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playgirl 3,298 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 you putting after school on the same lvl as u-kiss pains me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliver 22,442 Posted June 3, 2014 Author Share Posted June 3, 2014 They both missed the boat, for separate reasons. Let's take a look at the differences between the two. In the case of After School, I think Pledis made a huge series of mistakes in terms of marketing. They started out with a "Korean Pussycat Dolls" concept, which surely wasn't the issue because Korea has no issue with sexy concepts. The issue started when they began adding members for no true purpose, only to shove them behind the ever-dominating Kahi. They added new members to the group, shoved them into Orange Caramel, and then instead of keeping that sugar sweet image separate from After School as a whole, they reunited Orange Caramel with After School and tried to combine the images with "Shampoo". Then, they created After School Red and Blue, which is a concept that they should have been doing anyway with Orange Caramel and AS as a whole. To make matters worse...they are still adding more members. It feels like career began being made up on the spot later on and there was no clear direction for them to go, and it didn't help that Kahi dominated nearly every aspect of the group so the rest of them had no identity without her/because of her. In the case of U-Kiss, I think their issue is simply that Korea is very unforgiving and they missed their window of opportunity. They lagged behind in nearly every aspect in their early days and by that time the public had already made up their mind about them which is a true shame because they began getting quite good around "Mworago". Luckily they've stabilized and are respectable in their own right but they'll never be a top group, which honestly I feel they're probably fine with considering how close they were to failing. At least they can flaunt how much they've improved because their songs and choreography have been consistently great for a long time now. You see I agree with you.. I like both groups but adding new members never worked in for their favor.. like the first time is fine (Raina Nana, AJ, Hoon..) but theyre still trying to add new members.. for what? dont get me wrong i'm very interested in E Young and the new guy Jun he seems very talented.. but WHY! debut them in a new group! and let the others move on on their own! stop trying to fit them in a mold they clearly arnt made to fit in.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebrasoma 184 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 They both missed the boat, for separate reasons. Let's take a look at the differences between the two. In the case of After School, I think Pledis made a huge series of mistakes in terms of marketing. They started out with a "Korean Pussycat Dolls" concept, which surely wasn't the issue because Korea has no issue with sexy concepts. The issue started when they began adding members for no true purpose, only to shove them behind the ever-dominating Kahi. They added new members to the group, shoved them into Orange Caramel, and then instead of keeping that sugar sweet image separate from After School as a whole, they reunited Orange Caramel with After School and tried to combine the images with "Shampoo". Then, they created After School Red and Blue, which is a concept that they should have been doing anyway with Orange Caramel and AS as a whole. To make matters worse...they are still adding more members. It feels like career began being made up on the spot later on and there was no clear direction for them to go, and it didn't help that Kahi dominated nearly every aspect of the group so the rest of them had no identity without her/because of her. In the case of U-Kiss, I think their issue is simply that Korea is very unforgiving and they missed their window of opportunity. They lagged behind in nearly every aspect in their early days and by that time the public had already made up their mind about them which is a true shame because they began getting quite good around "Mworago". Luckily they've stabilized and are respectable in their own right but they'll never be a top group, which honestly I feel they're probably fine with considering how close they were to failing. At least they can flaunt how much they've improved because their songs and choreography have been consistently great for a long time now. Well said . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helbi 4,358 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 After School's underratedness is because of Pledis's crap management. Member changes are for the better imo (it gave the group Raina, Nana, Uee, etc.) Glad I'm not the only one who thinks so but I really hope we start getting more quality additions soon (no offense to Kaeun and Eyoung) because the popular girls are leaving soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliver 22,442 Posted June 3, 2014 Author Share Posted June 3, 2014 you putting after school on the same lvl as u-kiss pains me Why.. don't you think After School are underrated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
versace 9,204 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Ew even if Afterschool is flopping rn they will never sink as low as Ukiss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desu 10,708 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Kahi's fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.