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Kris Wu is INNOCENT! iTunes drama explained

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#1 daisyj6

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Posted 08 November 2018 - 02:41 PM

Pt1


For those who don't do know; Kris was accused for manipulating the iTunes chart using bots.

I made a thread on Twt explaining the mess in a chronological order.
Adapted from that, I'm sharing the truth here. 

It's a long post but a "good" post to refer to when people bs.
But if you’re only up for some quick facts; the 3rd part is kinda TL;DR…
 
 
1. On November 2nd, Kris released his album “Antares” on iTunes.

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8. If not bots, then it must be his huge Chinese/overseas following using VPN to buy/stream his newest album. 
This was already speculated by most Kpop fans (no surprise). 
However, other people start to confuse bots with VPN.
The rumors about him using bots to manipulate charts were still rampant.


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#2 daisyj6

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Posted 08 November 2018 - 02:43 PM (Edited by daisyj6, 08 November 2018 - 02:44 PM.)

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9. Since the release of "Antares" on Nov. 2nd until the 5th of November 11:47PM EST the iTunes charts looked like this.
Kris' music was topping the charts. (kworb archive)

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10. However, (less than) 24 hours later on Nov. 6th at 11:47PM EST;
His songs all fell from the charts.


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15. Universal Music: "...our company will firmly take all legal measures against the malicious rumors until the end."
Ariana’s manager: Me and Kris? We are literally best buddies. Never ever did I accuse him of using bots nor that his sales were fake. Oh and HBD, bro. Haha. rlytearpls.png
 
 
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Posted 08 November 2018 - 02:45 PM (Edited by daisyj6, 08 November 2018 - 03:14 PM.)

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(TL;DR)

16. Braun's Instagram post confirms that indeed many fans from especially China mass bought his album on iTunes through VPN.
The reason is because Kris' album Chinese release (6 Nov.) is later than the US release (2 Nov.) and they just couldn't wait. This would also explain "Antares" sudden drop in the iTunes chart observed on 6 November.


17. Though, 14 million sales within 24 hours still seem unbelievable.
It must be a glitch or a malicious edit, because his other songs on that chart is only around 8K sales.

What's also suspicious is that this exact screenshot is seemingly the only one with the huge number circulating around...

Morerover, another third-party website (kworb) shows that the infamous 14 million-seller ”November Rain" sold 48K units as of today (8 November).

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18. Then how did Kris get on top of the charts with "only" 48k sales?
I believe iTunes charting algorithm counts the amount of downloads/streams in a time interval. Between 2-6 November Kris was on top of the charts probably because of the huge influx of VPN-masked Chinese fans.

 

 

EDIT: reread this part. it sounds actually somewhat assumptive. Obviously, I'm still missing some receipts for this part to be 100% "true". Like screenshots of kworb iTunes sales on the day of the release... If y'all have something to add, please do.


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Posted 08 November 2018 - 02:45 PM

I’m not reading all this. Someone condense it for me. :rlytearpls:
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Posted 08 November 2018 - 02:47 PM

scooter braun is a joke lmfao


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Posted 08 November 2018 - 02:49 PM (Edited by Sesilex, 08 November 2018 - 02:50 PM.)

I’m not reading all this. Someone condense it for me. :rlytearpls:

https://www.clashmus...he-itunes-chart you can read this article.
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#7 JoJo29

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Posted 08 November 2018 - 02:50 PM

of course he's innocent, his fans were the ones using vpn


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Posted 08 November 2018 - 02:50 PM

Maybe he should've been more focused on Ariana's performance on Ellen so it wouldn't have been a disaster. 


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Posted 08 November 2018 - 02:50 PM

scooter's a fucking weirdo 


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Posted 08 November 2018 - 02:51 PM

So he's innocent and those are real sales for the tl;dr 


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Posted 08 November 2018 - 02:51 PM (Edited by ℓuMing, 08 November 2018 - 02:52 PM.)

I’m not reading all this. Someone condense it for me. https://onehallyu.com//public/style_emot...

 

basically ari's manager accused kris of using bots

 

itunes looked into it and found that cfans had used vps (vpns aren't bots btw, it means the sales are real but they shouldn't have been counted on itunes chart)

 

btw kris had nothing to do with the vpns, it was the fans' choice (apparently it was a birthday project?? idk)

 

itunes removed the vpns, kris fell on the chart, universal music china issues statement saying that they'll take legal action for ppl who continue to attack kris

 

ari's manager starts acting all nice and pretends he wasn't one of the ppl to start everything in the first place


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Posted 08 November 2018 - 02:52 PM (Edited by Sesilex, 08 November 2018 - 03:26 PM.)

poor kris. he's the victim here.

edit: wow even in this situation, haters are still trying to find a reason to attack Kris. l'm speechless!
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Posted 08 November 2018 - 02:52 PM

Thank you for doing this op 


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Posted 08 November 2018 - 02:56 PM

It's hilarious how scooter backtracked once he got threatened by the lawsuit


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Posted 08 November 2018 - 02:56 PM

Braun spreading fake news to people hate on Kris instead if investigating the reason, also assuming that a Chinese singer didn't have enough fans to have him on #1 US itunes charts... karma will come for you, man.
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Posted 08 November 2018 - 02:58 PM

Damn. Scooter has always been trashy and he didn't even apologize. He keeps telling people that he didn't tweet the accusation but literally everyone has proof that he did. How are C-netizens reacting to this mess?  


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Posted 08 November 2018 - 03:00 PM

scooter braun is a joke lmfao


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Posted 08 November 2018 - 03:01 PM

Uh, so someone conveniently forgot to mention that the Chinese drop date and the US drop dates are different and that's what led people to using VPNs?? Lol
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Posted 08 November 2018 - 03:01 PM

does he not know himself that he is not popular enough to top US iTunes chart? it must be due to chinese vpn sales. the fact that he posted about his album topping the chart, further encourages his fans to bulk buy through vpn. kris's album songs  literally took over top 10, these kind of vpn bulk buy is too much, it's so unfair to other artists. didn't lay released a song recently too, and he got pretty good results on US iTunes due to his chinese fans, but at least his fans didn't go too much over with the bulk buy.


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Posted 08 November 2018 - 03:04 PM

does he not know himself that he is not popular enough to top US iTunes chart? it must be due to chinese vpn sales. the fact that he posted about his album topping the chart, further encourages his fans to bulk buy through vpn. kris's album songs  literally took over top 10, these kind of vpn bulk buy is too much, it's so unfair to other artists. didn't lay released a song recently too, and he got pretty good results on US iTunes due to his chinese fans, but at least his fans didn't go too much over with the bulk buy.


1. Lay got good results because he has fans in the US and eslewhere, keep him out of this.

2. You missed the part about the Chinese and USA release dates being multiple days apart. The only way Chinese fans could've bought this album digitally was through VPN, it wasn't just bulk to boost him up the charts, they literally just wanted to buy the song / album whatever way.
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