RiseLikeACrowTit 862 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 The topic is not only going nowhere but scalating to shitty dimentions (even more), also BTS as a whole should say something, specially Jimin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittieKat 29 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 They should, but imagine how their Korean fans and Knetz would react. I would not want to be hated by my own country, that’s for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artemosia 727 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Army are already deflecting though, saying this has nothing to do with the atomic bomb on Jimin's shirt and evertything to do with South Korea-Japan relations.. Can't be oppa's fault.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaeGiElitist 4,238 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 They can't karmy at this moment rting Korean flag and being ugly plz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseLikeACrowTit 862 Posted November 8, 2018 Author Share Posted November 8, 2018 They should, but imagine how their Korean fans and Knetz would react. I would not want to be hated by my own country, that’s for sure.International fans are with the japanese side, int fans supported them since forever, if BTS decide to go silent to honor koreans whom NEVER supported them untill they got famous then they are on their own luck, not to mention that apologizing is the right thing to do and goes with ur grandiose UN speech Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loy 1,619 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Leave the politics to the politician.Address your message thru music and song to the J-fans that been hurt because of the shirt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAI PARKER 4,559 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 I m curious tho , like it was offensive but why isn't BH giving an apologie and call it a day since the moment it started ... shit happens just apologize , honestly it wans't that hard I don't get it.... they are ready to rick it so k army and their entitled ass can slleep well at night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittieKat 29 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 International fans are with the japanese side, int fans supported them since forever, if BTS decide to go silent to honor koreans whom NEVER supported them untill they got famous then they are on their own luck, not to mention that apologizing is the right thing to do and goes with ur grandiose UN speech Don’t get me wrong, I know exactly how some knetz were to BTS (sajegi, etc.). But they are a korean group. Big Hit is a korean company. I think they should apologize for the shirt, but I don’t think they will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metronomy 572 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 bighit is gonna carter to the korean market over the japanese. relations between korea and japan have never been stable and can sour at any moment, as they have before, so they might as well stay out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAI PARKER 4,559 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Army are already deflecting though, saying this has nothing to do with the atomic bomb on Jimin's shirt and evertything to do with South Korea-Japan relations.. Can't be oppa's fault.. there fans (international ones) were all asking for an apology too , I think it's the company's fault not the fans tbh . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mika Chan 332 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Asians hate to lose face. Koreans will never apologize to the Japanese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valeriekmy96 3,375 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 As much as I really want them to apologize, I don't think the issue is gonna be solved asap and it might get worse since they still have to consider the possible reactions of k-armys and the korean public. It's a lose-lose situation tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeo 13,014 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 they're not gonna apologize, any kind of pros they can get from the apology are not enough to make up for the cons coming from that let's be honest, the only thing they're loosing now with all that mess is a chance to breakthrough into mainstream japanese market -> j-fans are still there (just look at the sales of their new single), kfans are still there, ifans are still there - nothing rly changes, the fans are there and the money's there. if they do aplogize though they would risk loosing the support of kpublic and maybe even a part of the kfandom and that's the last thing they want obviously it would be nice, from a moral standpoint, to make some apology, even the simplest one but from a business point of view it just doesnt make any sense and is way too risky so yeah idt they will ever make one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AfterglowVape 11,799 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 I tried explaining this point earlier today in another thread before Music Station cancelled their appearance and was met with negs and passive agressive comments multiple times except one person who replied because they just refuse to think that the shirt was not anything offensive enough to the point of having an effect on other people namely Japan where they tour. Like yes sure the relations are strained between the countries but the shirt is having an effect in addition to it because they are celebrities with a fanbase in that country that have not acknowledged the mistake even now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadByeBae 304 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Wow. Will people who clearly don't bother to read about Japan and Korean relations or how stupidly complex (and old! And damn near cyclical! And entrenched in both country's politics!)they are stop making threads telling BTS and Bighit what to do? You really think an entertainment agency is going to get involved in this? Over a t-shirt from more than a year ago? Peeps can dismiss others as 'making excuses', but global politics and the rising tension between the countries is real and serious. No pop band apology will impact much of anything but their own standing in Korea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseLikeACrowTit 862 Posted November 8, 2018 Author Share Posted November 8, 2018 Wow. Will people who clearly don't bother to read about Japan and Korean relations or how stupidly complex (and old! And damn near cyclical! And entrenched in both country's politics!)they are stop making threads telling BTS and Bighit what to do? You really think an entertainment agency is going to get involved in this? Over a t-shirt from more than a year ago? Peeps can dismiss others as 'making excuses', but global politics and the rising tension between the countries is real and serious. No pop band apology will impact much of anything but their own standing in Korea. If you did wrong you apologyze, simple as that and you gain / lose nothing because it was the right thing to do, and that's that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tide 14,243 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Asians hate to lose face. Koreans will never apologize to the Japanese. didnt sm apologize for the tvxq mv that left japan off the map tho they're not gonna apologize, any kind of pros they can get from the apology are not enough to make up for the cons coming from that let's be honest, they only thing they're loosing now with all that mess is a chance to breakhtrough into mainstream japanese market -> j-fans are still there (just look at the sales of their new single), kfans are still there, ifans are still there - nothing rly changes, the fans are there and the money's there. if they do aplogize though they would risk loosing the support of kpublic and maybe even a part of the kfandom and that's the last thing they want obviously it would be nice, from a moral standopoint, to make some apology, even the simplest one but from a business point of view it just doesnt make any sense and is way too risky so yeah idt they will ever make one you raise a good point here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurtinghoya 156 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 International fans are with the japanese side, int fans supported them since forever, if BTS decide to go silent to honor koreans whom NEVER supported them untill they got famous then they are on their own luck, not to mention that apologizing is the right thing to do and goes with ur grandiose UN speech What? If bts apologises then they'll lose not only the kfandom, but Korea overrall as well will turn their backs on them.. and Korea's market as well as their reputation THERE is the one that counts the most Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ethereal 20,923 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 you think the japanese right wings that are the only ones protesting them will accept an apology? pls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaeGiElitist 4,238 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 If you did wrong you apologyze, simple as that and you gain / lose nothing because it was the right thing to do, and that's that At your big age I really don't understand the naivety. What's not clicking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S P R I N G 2,519 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 they're not gonna apologize, any kind of pros they can get from the apology are not enough to make up for the cons coming from that let's be honest, they only thing they're loosing now with all that mess is a chance to breakthrough into mainstream japanese market -> j-fans are still there (just look at the sales of their new single), kfans are still there, ifans are still there - nothing rly changes, the fans are there and the money's there. if they do aplogize though they would risk loosing the support of kpublic and maybe even a part of the kfandom and that's the last thing they want obviously it would be nice, from a moral standopoint, to make some apology, even the simplest one but from a business point of view it just doesnt make any sense and is way too risky so yeah idt they will ever make one I think this is the most sensible and realistic comment I have read today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nishikori 276 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 You know they won't. Their Japanese fans may be upset about the T-shirt thing, but they don't quit the fandom. So no much loss here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B612 22,399 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Seeing how they handled the situation with the song produced by Aki-p I don't think BH will make an apology, they clearly will stay with the Korean side, a big portion of their Korean fans seem pretty anti-Japanese with all the talk that they don't need Japan but imo they should keep in mind that Japanese fans are the ones who stick with them even when they aren't as popular in Korea, I mean, look at TVXQ and KARA members (specially Kang Jiyoung) still making money in Japan all these years, they should be looking at long term but w.e it's pretty complicated as it is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadByeBae 304 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 If you did wrong you apologyze, simple as that and you gain / lose nothing because it was the right thing to do, and that's that Let's back up, though, and define 'wrong'. The shirt was tacky, yes. So very. Except Jimin is a young Korean man, a country liberated from horrific oppression by Japan by the atom bombs; yes, thousands of Koreans died in those bombs as well but millions were freed, and do you think someone who's been living the hardcore life of an idol since age 16 has that nuanced a view on global politics? Are you sure? not to be insulting but you don't understand the situation particularly deeply - why are you so sure he does? He was raised to celebrate liberation; to him back then, perhaps what Japan has done to Korea without apology is much more wrong that a shirt with a mushroom cloud. Seriously, read up on Japanese occupation in Asia. Get some gritty details. I'll wait. It is not Jimin's job to apologize for 80/90 years of horrific relations, nationalistic BS and simmering anger between his country and Japan's, and at this point, that's what he'd be doing. It was a stupid move that has become symbolic of a bigger problem, and staying mum and letting the countries sort this out for the gazillioneth time is the only answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sasha 2,956 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 it's a faux pas on BTS's part and now it's escalated into trouble for them so yeah the apology is overdue. also i don't think "koreans would turn on them" is a plausible excuse. they won't be apologizing for celebrating the independence day or honouring their country but for an inappropriate image on the shirt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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