YesIKnowRelax 3,614 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Now that Produce 101 Season 3 has debuted, let's see how the Produce 101 alumni are doing. I went up to Top 35 that are currently active in the music industry. I took the latest releases with info available. Few groups/soloists actually charted so I used MV views as well. I'm aware some releases are newer and haven't had as much time to accumulate views/sales. GAON TOP 100: Chungha - Love U: 8 G-Idle - Hann: 8 Kim Sohee - Falling You (2017 OST): 68 Pristin - We Like (2017): 94 Physical Sales: WJSN - WJ Please?: 35,066 Weki Meki - Lucky: 34,395 Pristin - Schxxl Out (2017): 27,276 Gugudan - Act 4 Cait Sith: 20,933 G-Idle - I Am: 24,600 DIA - Summer Ade: 12,076 ChungHa - Blooming Blue: 9,992 CLC - Black Dress; 8,016 April - The Blue: 7,162 Kim SoHee - The Fillette (2017): 3,764 Kan Si-ra - Sira EP: No sales info available Hwang InSun - No Physical albums Youtube Views: G-Idle - Hann: 51 million CLC - Black Dress: 15 million Pristin - We Like: 13 million Chungha - Love U: 10.4 million Weki Meki - LaLaLa: 7 million Gugudan - The Boots: 6.3 million WJSN - Save You, Save Me: 3.7 million DIA - Woo Woo: 3.4 million April - The Blue Bird: 2.5 million Kim SoHee - SobokSobok (2017): 223k Kang Si-ra - Don't Wanna Forget (2017): 150k Hwang InSun - Marriage Day: 26k *Weki Meki - Kiss, Kicks doesn't have info available yet. sooo...... Here's how I think things are going: G-Idle Chungha ---------------------- wall------------------------- WJSN Pristin Weki Meki Gugudan CLC DIA Kim Sohee (She has OSTs and shows she's doing) APRIL Kang Sira Hwang Insun (y'all please give this girl some views, Hwangya and Rainbow were bops and Dead Clock is perfect for Halloween. But at least she debuted and is still putting out music, poor Chanmi, and others) Who do you think will be the Chungha & G-Idle of Produce 101 Season 3? Former AKB have Japan and their former fame to go back to but what about Korean trainees? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddy Marx 4,825 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Chungha is doing better than (G)-Idle Rollercoaster was hit and had really good digitals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
________________ 1,779 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 Chungha is doing better than (G)-Idle Rollercoaster was hit and had really good digitals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twicelestial 2,289 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 Top 11 members really lost their hype after ioi disband Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YesIKnowRelax 3,614 Posted November 1, 2018 Author Share Posted November 1, 2018 Chungha is doing better than (G)-Idle Rollercoaster was hit and had really good digitals Yes but Latata and Hann also both have good digitals, they have better physical sales and Love U and Why Don't You KNow weren't as big hit as Rollercoaster. I think they're close but right now G-Idle has an edge we'll see how both do in their next comebacks/physical sales in the end its about staying power EDIT: Chungha has digitals, although Love U is about the same level currently as GI-DLE's songs GI has physicals and views, meaning exposure and popularity I guess it'll matter whether Rollercoaster was a fluke or Chungha's continuous level and if G can maintain their momentum and gain more physical sales Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suho'sLoveSana 292 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 LMFAO. How can G(idle) be the wall when WJSN sells double of their albums sale. Everyone should realize by now that digital sale means nothing unless you sell like IU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swiftswitchsurf 12,276 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 LMFAO. How can G(idle) be the wall when WJSN sells double of their albums sale. Everyone should realize by now that digital sale means nothing unless you sell like IU.WJSN just started selling like that. Let's not pretend their latest album was their standard. We got no clue how (G)I-dle will do with their next album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suho'sLoveSana 292 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 WJSN just started selling like that. Let's not pretend their latest album was their standard. We got no clue how (G)I-dle will do with their next album. Who says WJSN will not increase and won't get a digital hit next comeback? They have their Chinese popular members from Roclet Girls. And their songs are better by every comeback. I am not even a fan of WJSN, but the use of wall is f**king ridiculous here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StyleStartSbenu 3,608 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 While digital sales alone dont make much money, Chungles having the public interest means she has more opportunities for tv shows, a lot of festivals shes invited to, CFs, etc. Chunghas album sales are lower than DIA but nobody in their right mind would say DIA is doing better than her. Sunmi has even lower physicals but Sunmi is also super popular. Unless you are IU or Taeyeon as a solo female you're not going to be selling anywhere near as many albums as a group. Solo artists just dont have the same type of fandom as a group in general. Chungha gets invited to the year end awards and a lot of other things, shes "made it" as far as the industry is concerned and is included in things as a result. She's known by the public and you basically cant say that about any of the other groups other than maybe Gidle, everyone else is nugu to the public (as a whole, not their ioi members) Also I wouldn't put Pristin over Gugudan. According to Peppers new gen girl group thread, gugudan has about 25k more total physical sales, and they're about to have a comeback. So they're not in a limbo with people thinking they're possibly getting After School'd. That should be taken into consideration. Cosmic girls should be a tier higher than all under them at least. Imo cosmic girls > weki meki / gugudan > pristin > DIA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shay 986 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 Wsjn coming for that throne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StyleStartSbenu 3,608 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 Wsjn coming for that throne How do you think they will handle things and move forward when the C-line leaves in march? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilraen92 9,334 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 Pristin was probably the post IOI group with more potential (decent debut digitals + good physicals). It's a pity what Pledis did to them. It's curious how at the end Gidle that doesn't have any top 11 members ended up doing much better than the top 11 in general though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YesIKnowRelax 3,614 Posted November 1, 2018 Author Share Posted November 1, 2018 While digital sales alone dont make much money, Chungles having the public interest means she has more opportunities for tv shows, a lot of festivals shes invited to, CFs, etc. Chunghas album sales are lower than DIA but nobody in their right mind would say DIA is doing better than her. Sunmi has even lower physicals but Sunmi is also super popular. Unless you are IU or Taeyeon as a solo female you're not going to be selling anywhere near as many albums as a group. Solo artists just dont have the same type of fandom as a group in general. Chungha gets invited to the year end awards and a lot of other things, shes "made it" as far as the industry is concerned and is included in things as a result. She's known by the public and you basically cant say that about any of the other groups other than maybe Gidle, everyone else is nugu to the public (as a whole, not their ioi members) Also I wouldn't put Pristin over Gugudan. According to Peppers new gen girl group thread, gugudan has about 25k more total physical sales, and they're about to have a comeback. So they're not in a limbo with people thinking they're possibly getting After School'd. That should be taken into consideration. Cosmic girls should be a tier higher than all under them at least. Imo cosmic girls > weki meki / gugudan > pristin > DIA It's hard to know which way Pristin's going to go but I would have put Pristin V just below Gugudan as a whole, let alone GuGudan's attempt with SEMINA and Gugudan has just been more active so total sales aren't really important If they're going into the red each comeback, lots of comebacks isn't a good thing GI-dle also has massive youtube views which means they are gaining a fanbase overseas too that can mean profitable concerts If Chungha pulls out another Rollercoaster then she'll be on top even with low physical sales If she maintains Love U level, then GI-Dle and her will be tied digitally with GI-Dle having the physical and youtube advantage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YesIKnowRelax 3,614 Posted November 1, 2018 Author Share Posted November 1, 2018 shoot DP sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YesIKnowRelax 3,614 Posted November 1, 2018 Author Share Posted November 1, 2018 Who says WJSN will not increase and won't get a digital hit next comeback? They have their Chinese popular members from Roclet Girls. And their songs are better by every comeback. I am not even a fan of WJSN, but the use of wall is f**king ridiculous here. GI-DLE also has Chinese members WJSN needs to chart in the top 100, at least for a week, before they can get near the wall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suho'sLoveSana 292 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 GI-DLE also has Chinese members WJSN needs to chart in the top 100, at least for a week, before they can get near the wall Of currrr GI-DLE also has Chinese members WJSN needs to chart in the top 100, at least for a week, before they can get near the wall Of currrr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaiushhy 318 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 If you are talking just the alumni and not their groups, I think they are mostly doing great. I think it is safe to say that IOI members have only helped their groups to a certain degree. On the other hand, if they were not in IOI before, it will be hard for the group to get that initial interest. However what is clear is that almost all IOI members have average, to stable to great career potentials. They get individual CFs, individual drama roles, variety guestings, solo acts, etc, more than their other members or any idol their age. These are the things that will be hard to get if they did not become IOI first. Good to great careers after IOI (IOI Rank) 1 Somi - Great (CF/Solo) 2 Sejeong - Great (Variety/CF/Solo/Drama) 4 Chungha - Great (SOLO/Radio Show/Variety) 5 Sohye - Good (Drama) 6 Pinky - Great (China) 7 Chayeon - Great (Drama/CF/Variety) 8 Mina - Good (CF/Drama) 9 Doyeon - Great (CF/Modeling) Not As Big After IOI 3 Yoojung 10 Nayoung 11 Yeunjung Notice how their rankings except for Yoojung reflect that. When I mean great, I am not saying that they are upcoming Suzy or IU (As a note, no one is beating the Dream High alumni.) . All I am saying is they got the most out of the opportunity that they were given and made it into a long-term career. Also notice that they are not given cookie-cutter projects as the public knows them and their strengths already so they can choose projects that can match their image. That is in itself better than 95% of all individual idol members, because if you are just starting out it will take 3 years before you will be known, take some more time making your girl group more popular, even before the management decides for you to branch out. Even the top girl groups may not have the individual careers that the IOI members have now, since they are to serve the group first. So I think if IOI is an indicator, Most Wanna One and Izone members will have great careers ahead of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddy Marx 4,825 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 While digital sales alone dont make much money, Chungles having the public interest means she has more opportunities for tv shows, a lot of festivals shes invited to, CFs, etc. Chunghas album sales are lower than DIA but nobody in their right mind would say DIA is doing better than her. Sunmi has even lower physicals but Sunmi is also super popular. Unless you are IU or Taeyeon as a solo female you're not going to be selling anywhere near as many albums as a group. Solo artists just dont have the same type of fandom as a group in general. Chungha gets invited to the year end awards and a lot of other things, shes "made it" as far as the industry is concerned and is included in things as a result. She's known by the public and you basically cant say that about any of the other groups other than maybe Gidle, everyone else is nugu to the public (as a whole, not their ioi members) This ^^^^^ It's hard to know which way Pristin's going to go but I would have put Pristin V just below Gugudan as a whole, let alone GuGudan's attempt with SEMINA and Gugudan has just been more active so total sales aren't really important If they're going into the red each comeback, lots of comebacks isn't a good thing GI-dle also has massive youtube views which means they are gaining a fanbase overseas too that can mean profitable concerts If Chungha pulls out another Rollercoaster then she'll be on top even with low physical sales If she maintains Love U level, then GI-Dle and her will be tied digitally with GI-Dle having the physical and youtube advantage Did you like ignore the part where Chungha is doing more festivals and cf's and has more appearances than the others?? Love U didn't do as well digitally because it was a very safe summer song, in the middle of summer, as opposed to something like Roller Coaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirdVia 135 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 Top 11 members really lost their hype after ioi disband As in when they're in their new groups, yes. but individually they're still relevant. They're still in a lot of cfs, got cast in dramas, invited and being a regular in var shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robeeboobee 733 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 Wj please hanteo is almost 50k physical tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neopoli 137 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 Did you skip weki meki's debut album on purpose or.. Also wake up, it's 2018, theres no way pristin is still that high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foo 3,048 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Probably better to use Hanteo numbers, since your data makes it look like WJSN is close to Weki Meki/Pristin physically, when they aren't. Also, Pristin should be in that Weki Meki/Gugudan tier. WJSN are doing much better than them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team snack 518 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Yes but Latata and Hann also both have good digitals, they have better physical sales and Love U and Why Don't You KNow weren't as big hit as Rollercoaster. I think they're close but right now G-Idle has an edge we'll see how both do in their next comebacks/physical sales in the end its about staying power EDIT: Chungha has digitals, although Love U is about the same level currently as GI-DLE's songs GI has physicals and views, meaning exposure and popularity I guess it'll matter whether Rollercoaster was a fluke or Chungha's continuous level and if G can maintain their momentum and gain more physical sales Lol exposure and popularity are what digitals mean, youtube also but it can be largely influenced by international viewers while physicals are because of fandom. And idk why you're arguing Roller Coaster might be a fluke when Why Don't Know You had 911k downloads last year? Hann had a better start than Latata but it seems it doesn't have that much longevity. The fact that RC have better number even if you combined Latata and Hann, made Chungha pretty far ahead in digitals. Love U was her follow up song lost in the shuffle in this year summer's tough competition (still did better than Hann) so I'll wait for her brand new song next year to even doubt her digital power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novemb 1 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Physical Album 2018 Hanteo WJSN: WJ Please?: 49,971 WJSN: Dream Your Dream: 38,412 Weki Meki: Lucky: 21,897 Gugudan: Act 4: Cait Sith: 15,488 (G)I-DLE: I AM: 15,155 PRISTIN V: Like A V: 13,814 Weki Meki: Kiss, Kicks: 8,855 Gugudan SEMINA: SEMINA: 8,787 DIA: Summer Ade: 7,789 Chungha: Offside: 7,615 Chungha: Blooming Blue: 6,126 APRIL: The Blue: 5,504 CLC: Black Dress: 4,384 APRIL: The Ruby: 2,490 WJSN: 88,383 Weki Meki: 30,752 Gugudan: 24,275 (incl. Gugudan Semina) (G)I-DLE: 15,155 PRISTIN: 13,814 (Pristin V) Chungha: 13,741 DIA: 7,789 APRIL: 7,994 CLC: 4,384 Jeon Somi: (....) Kim Sohye: (....) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novemb 1 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Physical WJSN >>>>>>>> Digital Chungha > (G)I-DLE >>>> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.