do you ever feel like you can't make logical comments about a situation/scandal because you will be pegged as an "oppa didn't mean it" fan?

[ethereal]

its so weird to me how people on OH in particular have made this type of culture that just because you stan someone, if you comment on their scandals, even with logical arguments, you are automatically being "oppa didn't mean it" and defensive. its almost like people don't want to have civil, logical discussion on here. it always end in dismissiveness and name calling.  some of us can actually think for ourselves and have opinions that aren't 100% influenced by the fact that we stan the idol in question. 

[Amachan]

well if you get affected by it maybe it may somehow somewhat true right?

[freya]

People on this forum don't want discussion about anything. They just want to be heard and agreed with.

[Sdm]

Yes. People value emotion over logic and only think in black or white terms.

 

In relation to this sitiation while I don't agree with your opinions regarding jimin and the scandal it's dumb to dismiss everything by insulting your intelligence or labelling everyone as an "oppalogist" Everyone is allowed to have their own opinions but people really can't respect that nowadays.

[masakio]

it's because your comments weren't logical. if jimin grew up under a bridge with no exposure to anything then perhaps I'd see your point. 

[Baby Pickle]

Depends on the situation

[tafattsbarn]

Yes. I often refrain from commenting at all. 

[BeatrixKiddo]

but just because you think something sounds logical doesn't mean it's gonna sound logical to everyone else. 

[ethereal]

it's because your comments weren't logical. if jimin grew up under a bridge with no exposure to anything then perhaps I'd see your point. 

why are you making it about something that i didn't mention in the op? i made this thread about a general topic and based my opinion on multiple experiences i've had here. 

[felidae]

I've been told that apparently I was "excusing oppa behaviour" for saying something that not bashing them. Excuse me for choosing brain over emotion

 

Uh so this is about something particular. I'm out. I'd appreciate if someone link me thx

 

Edit nvm I found it. That's wildt.

[ethereal]

but just because you think something sounds logical doesn't mean it's gonna sound logical to everyone else. 

but like, theres a difference between debunking something someone else has said with actual facts, and just being dismissive because you don't agree. that's my main thing. 

[masakio]

why are you making it about something that i didn't mention in the op? i made this thread about a general topic and based my opinion on multiple experiences i've had here. 

 

Because it isn't exactly difficult to figure out what you're referring to. You were being called out in that thread for being obtuse so you decided to create a new thread to whine about it. 

[BBIIBBII]

if you've got receipts backing up why you're not in the wrong, there's nothing wrong with defending someone as long as you know how to have an open minded conversation about the subject and not get defensive for all the wrong reasons. also just avoid trolls. 

[BeatrixKiddo]

but like, theres a difference between debunking something someone else has said with actual facts, and just being dismissive because you don't agree. that's my main thing. 

 

yeah it's not exactly fair but it comes with the territory of being a fan. 

[Haruwu]

people on OH like to base things on being a fan and can't accept anything but negative in scandals

 

its all about the hype on being on board a drama train and it slowly fades out

 

people just wanna feel involved lol

[ethereal]

Because it isn't exactly difficult to figure out what you're referring to. You were being called out in that thread for being obtuse so you decided to create a new thread to whine about it. 

And what did you gain out of following me to a different thread and commenting here and insulting me when i'm moving on from that topic? like? i've been a member here since 2013, if you think only one thread caused me to feel this way idk what to tell you. 

[satoori]

it's because your comments weren't logical. if jimin grew up under a bridge with no exposure to anything then perhaps I'd see your point. 

All the Japanese citizens who continue to support Jimin are not logical?

[lovenatu]

Yes, it's happened to me a lot of times. Often, these people can't refute your arguments so they resort to "oppa didn't mean it."

[masakio]

And what did you gain out of following me to a different thread and commenting here and insulting me when i'm moving on from that topic? like? i've been a member here since 2013, if you think only one thread caused me to feel this way idk what to tell you. 

 

new threads pop up in 'recent topics'. it's not exactly concealed. 

 

All the Japanese citizens who continue to support Jimin are not logical?

 

I don't even know what you're talking about.  

[satoori]

 

 

I don't even know what you're talking about.  

You said what's written in the OP is not logical....

 

You also mentioned about Jimin living under a bridge...

 

Many Jfans do not believe his intentions were malicious and are having a civil discussion.

[masakio]

You said what's written in the OP is not logical....

 

You also mentioned about Jimin living under a bridge...

 

Many Jfans do not believe his intentions were malicious.

 

I was referring to thinking a 20 something year old Korean man wouldn't recognize the a-bomb. that ain't logical, esp for a group as political woke as bts. 

 

I have no idea what tangent you went off on. 

[satoori]

I was referring to thinking a 20 something year old Korean man wouldn't recognize the a-bomb. that ain't logical, esp for a group as political woke as bts. 

 

I have no idea what tangent you went off on. 

 

Yet many Jfans, the actual victims here, can completely understand how this could happen.

 

BTS are human too. Everyone make mistakes.

[BBIIBBII]

I was referring to thinking a 20 something year old Korean man wouldn't recognize the a-bomb. that ain't logical, esp for a group as political woke as bts. 

 

I have no idea what tangent you went off on. 

 

are you still running off the adrenaline rush of that other forum so you've decided to drag on your shit here? 

[masakio]

 

 

Yet many Jfans, the actual victims here, can completely understand how a mistake could happen.

 

BTS are human too. Everyone make mistakes.

 

got it. jimin is a 25 year old korean man who does not know what the a-bomb looks like. politically woke kings. 

[ethereal]

I was referring to thinking a 20 something year old Korean man wouldn't recognize the a-bomb. that ain't logical, esp for a group as political woke as bts. 

 

I have no idea what tangent you went off on. 

 

i even said in another comment in that thread that my point was that there are other mushroom cloud pics that are not from japan  it makes 0 sense to me why you felt the need to drag another thread's content in here. like, you could have quoted me there if what i said effected you so much. idk if you think you're "calling me out" or smtg, but my post are still there for everyone to see so like, you're literally accomplishing nothing but looking like a bully. i left that thread bc i wanted to move on. give it a rest