DocumentaLy 6,033 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 I thought about this the other day in that Janet Jackson / Rock & Roll Hall of Fame thread. Someone asked why a bunch of non-rock acts were going in, unaware that it's for popular music in general, not just rock. But it made me think of when was the last time there was a rock act that made enough of an impact to warrant inclusion in the future? There's an indie pop song every once in a while that people mistake for rock, but the genere for all intents and purposes is dead in the mainstream, and has been for years. The audience they would've had, young white men, have largely moved onto hip hop, pushing it to the top of the genre heap. Can rock make a comeback, or is it too far gone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
· Moonrise · 956 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 hope so edit: Coldplay and OneRepublic are still mainstream tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rose. 4,207 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Doubt it. Everything is centered around rap & pop right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RóisÃn Dubh 3,966 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Although rock festivals are still a thing, and the most consolidated rock artists can still sell out their concerts, at the moment, I don't see anything that hint the genre coming back in the mainstream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocumentaLy 6,033 Posted October 15, 2018 Author Share Posted October 15, 2018 hope so edit: Coldplay and OneRepublic are still mainstream tho OneRepublic is a pop act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandabear 188 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Yes, music moves in cycles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masakio 6,815 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 not anytime soon. at least not the type of rock you're referring to. the only bands that seem to have mainstream hits are poprock groups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curel 7 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 I'd love it if it did, but I think that the way the industry works right now would have to change for rock to emerge from the primarily indie scene that it has turned to. I watched this video with Shirley Manson from Garbage where she explained some of the situation, and it kind of makes sense why things turned out the way they did for the genre. The video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMT1mnFMRf8 And I believe Courtney Love's article from 2000 was brought up in the interview: https://www.salon.com/2000/06/14/love_7/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cara 31 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 definitely not in the foreseeable future. there hasn't been any innovation in rock music for a long time. most rock music released nowadays sounds exactly the same as it did ten/ fifteen years ago or before. rock kinda faded out of the mainstream for a while before too but it became big again in the 90s after grunge surfaced and became popular. then rap rock/ nu metal took it into the 21st century and then it faded out of the mainstream again after pop-punk/ emo rock. pop-punk kinda killed rock music for a lot of casual listeners bc of the whole 'emo' thing lol and there hasn't been any real innovation in the genre since to bring some attention and new interest to it. unless someone in rock music does something new, it'll stay dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UMJI MOODS 11,524 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 While I wouldn't mind if it did I feel that the likelihood for the foreseeable future os quite small. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onanimaster 51 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 there are still some pop-rock/alt rock bands that are pretty successful like coldplay, imagine dragons and twenty one pilots but if you mean classic rock then yeah i don't see that coming back soon cuz as you said in the op their audience would rather listen to hip hop now but music is cyclical and all so maybe it will make a comeback in the next decade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JihyoStoleMyHeartAYAYAY 22,189 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Yes pls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indigo 16,433 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Well, the Killers deserve to be inducted for Mr. Brightside alone, but also for their body of work. There's still absolutely a taste for harder rock, and for bands, just a lack of new acts willing to provide it while also having the goods. A charismatic frontman with a good voice, back by great instrumentalist, and between them a healthy or at least working band relationship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Boy 334 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Possibly. If people can get lit to rap songs off of their bars and trap/beat-driven instrumentals and melody, then I could see Rock, especially more rhythmic rock becoming mainstream again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocumentaLy 6,033 Posted October 15, 2018 Author Share Posted October 15, 2018 Yes, music moves in cycles. There are still some pop-rock/alt rock bands that are pretty successful like coldplay, imagine dragons and twenty one pilots but if you mean classic rock then yeah i don't see that coming back soon cuz as you said in the op their audience would rather listen to hip hop now but music is cyclical and all so maybe it will make a comeback in the next decade? The cycle should've hit already though, and it hasn't. And about the bands you mentioned, none of them are top acts. They're like C-list when compared to A-list acts like Drake, Taylor Swift, and Beyonce. definitely not in the foreseeable future. there hasn't been any innovation in rock music for a long time. most rock music released nowadays sounds exactly the same as it did ten/ fifteen years ago or before. rock kinda faded out of the mainstream for a while before too but it became big again in the 90s after grunge surfaced and became popular. then rap rock/ nu metal took it into the 21st century and then it faded out of the mainstream again after pop-punk/ emo rock. pop-punk kinda killed rock music for a lot of casual listeners bc of the whole 'emo' thing lol and there hasn't been any real innovation in the genre since to bring some attention and new interest to it. unless someone in rock music does something new, it'll stay dead. I'm reminded now of a show I watched on CNN about music in the 2000s. They talked about how hip hop influenced the pop culture as a whole. Then they talked about how rock had pretty much lost its way and wasn't speaking to the culture at large, just becoming this relic, with the last gasp of it being New York bands like The Strokes and the Yeah Yeah Yeahs. Rock's biggest contribution in the last 15 years is skinny jeans. When then reminded me of one of the reviews of Hedi Slimane's first collection for Celine a few weeks ago, which said that his rocker style just seemed so dated and out of touch with the current age, as if he had dusted off a collection he forgot to release 15 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarShapedGummy 11,380 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 i see the next mainstream songs to be built on rock + edm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camelliabloom 4,557 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 No, and if "rock" comes back it'll be some trash like Fall Out Boy or Imagine Dragons which is just angsty pop music imo. And not to be a dick but that kind of music is just a disgrace and should never be likened to the genre of rock, sorry. The closest thing I've found to rock (sort of) is boy pablo, which is reminiscent of Morrissey just a bit, but even then it's more dream pop. You also have the Strokes, but they've been around since the early 2000s so they don't really count, do they? But as for good, recent rock music, I'd look Alice in Chains' most recent few albums or the new STP album. The Strokes are always consistent too imo. But these are 'older' bands and I'm not sure if I'll ever find anything new that I'm obsessed with. I'll probably just continue for the rest of my life looking to the past to find more rock to listen to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camelliabloom 4,557 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 I'd love it if it did, but I think that the way the industry works right now would have to change for rock to emerge from the primarily indie scene that it has turned to. I watched this video with Shirley Manson from Garbage where she explained some of the situation, and it kind of makes sense why things turned out the way they did for the genre. The video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMT1mnFMRf8 And I believe Courtney Love's article from 2000 was brought up in the interview: https://www.salon.com/2000/06/14/love_7/ Shirley has been my idol for the entirety of my life (lmao) but at the same time, I have to question her opinion, as Garbage isn't really producing rock anymore themselves. So I think we almost have to question, even with pioneers like Shirley Manson and Billy Corgan, whose music has turned to be quite electronic, what would rock even sound like if it had a resurgence? I'm actually quite curious because out of the rock artists I've listened to, in terms of producing new music, they take one of two routes typically: 1) Produce music that sounds almost out-dated and like a shell of their most famous hits, or 2) Go down the path of 'obscurity' of electronic music. This makes it pretty difficult to find new stuff to listen to imo, since I don't find much appeal in either approach, but then again, if this is the way that most artists end up, how will rock evolve? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witchcocktor 959 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Well an AC/Country/(Pop)Rock-Ballad is the number one song on US and UK iTunes charts at the moment, which is pretty good in the climate of urban. It's not much but it could be a start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocumentaLy 6,033 Posted October 15, 2018 Author Share Posted October 15, 2018 Shirley has been my idol for the entirety of my life (lmao) but at the same time, I have to question her opinion, as Garbage isn't really producing rock anymore themselves. So I think we almost have to question, even with pioneers like Shirley Manson and Billy Corgan, whose music has turned to be quite electronic, what would rock even sound like if it had a resurgence? I'm actually quite curious because out of the rock artists I've listened to, in terms of producing new music, they take one of two routes typically: 1) Produce music that sounds almost out-dated and like a shell of their most famous hits, or 2) Go down the path of 'obscurity' of electronic music. This makes it pretty difficult to find new stuff to listen to imo, since I don't find much appeal in either approach, but then again, if this is the way that most artists end up, how will rock evolve? You just made me think of Radiohead... I think rock would evolve into sounding something more poppy and electronic, like The xx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxwell 10 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Kind of doubt it for the time being. Hip hop/trap seems to be dominating. I'm cool with pop punk in 2018 though. Been a huge fan of the story so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyrose 12,654 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rananicolee 10,276 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Yes and no. It depends on what sub-genre and what band gets pushed back into the spotlight but many metal bands have been nominated for Grammys and that's pretty mainstream. Ghost topped the Billboard charts when they released their latest album and they have the sound to be pushed into the mainstream but their image is very Satanic so that wouldn't go well with the general public. Bands like Behemoth are too extreme and they are actual Satanists so they wouldn't go mainstream either. Reason why Behemoth and Ghost won't go mainstream ever. Ghost has a poppish sound but they're obviously too "scary" looking for the main audience. Corey Taylor from Slipknot actually talked about this the other day on Twitter! He says that bands are too unfiltered and they have too much attitude for a wide audience. Even pop punk bands like A Day To Remember have failed to have commercial success because they have attitude and are unfiltered. Years ago, Metallica was supposed to perform Nothing Else Matters on an award show and they basically said fuck it and performed a Misfits song I believe. As a rock fan I can say that rock has very elitist fans no matter what sub-genre. If you go mainstream, you're not punk enough or hard enough as fans say constantly. Pop punk bands still to this day have to prove that they are punk enough. But I do see a change probably happening with bands like Slipknot or Metallica showing that they can make rock have a huge comeback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brume 693 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Probably not. In my opinion, Rock has this dated sound in this time and era. Unless, a new band is able to revive the sound and make it new/fresh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyutiemir22 567 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Probably but not soon. I know Dave Grohl really liked this new group And I could see why. They definitely have that old time rock sound. Cage the Elephant also releases pretty good music. So rock might come back later but probably not ever like Foo Fighters, ACDC, Alice in Chains, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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