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TOKYO - Japan will not refrain from hoisting the rising sun flag at an international naval review in South Korea, despite its neighboring country's concern, the defense minister said Friday.

 

"As a matter of course, we will raise it," Itsunori Onodera told a press conference, referring to the flag that is regarded by some in South Korea and China as a symbol of Japan's wartime aggression.

 

Onodera noted that Japan's Maritime Self-Defense Force's ships are obliged to hoist the flag by the country's law and it has long been recognized as an indicator to which country they belong under the U.N. Convention on the Law of the Sea.

 

On Thursday, a South Korean Navy source said Seoul told Japan and other countries participating in the fleet review in late August that their warships should only raise their own national flags and the national flag of South Korea during next month's event.

 

Onodera also pointed out that the design of the rising sun flag has been widely used in Japan.

 

The rising sun flag was used by the Imperial Japanese Army before the end of World War II. China and South Korea, where bitter memories of Japan's past militarism still run deep, often accuses Tokyo of not atoning enough for the atrocities committed before and during the war.

 

https://japantoday.com/category/politics/japan-defies-s.-korea-call-not-to-use-rising-sun-flag-at-naval-event

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Not to say that Koreans are in the right, but it's instances like this that show why they have such hatred for Japan. So far Japan has done little to show they take the negative impact of the rising sun flag and comfort women seriously. It's almost like they're mocking Koreans, raising the flag in their own country.

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This is so unnecessary, I don’t get why they feel the need to raise the flag. It will only cause more problems.

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The world related it to their imperialist era now. It ain't hard to get rid of it especially considering the images it evokes for people who lived in countries they ruined. How does anyone defend this.

America has ruined countries too, and we're talking about modern times, not something way before our time, yet nobody cares about their flags :p

The problem here is people focusing on the past instead of the present/future rlytearpls.png

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The world related it to their imperialist era now. It ain't hard to get rid of it especially considering the images it evokes for people who lived in countries they ruined. How does anyone defend this.

 

That's not true, although it's related to imperial Japan for most of the world it's simply a representation of Japan. The relation is mainly/only made in Eastern Asia. Not that the rest of the world is relevant, just a rectifiation.

Should Japan get rid of the flag they were using during WW2 ? I understand the concerns but it's a different matter than the Nazi flag which represents an ideology.

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I just don't get why Japan still considers that flag of all things a national symbol. They could have decided to discarded the rising sun after WWII but instead, they decided to keep it and normalize it, and now when anyone tells them "Hey, what's with the imperialist flag?" they just say, "oh, it's one of our national symbols, been using it for decades, lol"

 

America has ruined countries too, and we're talking about modern times, not something way before our time, yet nobody cares about their flags :p
The problem here is people focusing on the past instead of the present/future rlytearpls.png

 

First of all: Confederate flag. 

 

Second of all: the "ruiner" doesn't get to decide what is not or not offensive to the people they ruined, nor should an outsider decide that. You can't use other victims reactions to say a completely different groups of victims are reacting wrong. 

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That's not true, although it's related to imperial Japan for most of the world it's simply a representation of Japan. The relation is mainly/only made in Eastern Asia. Not that the rest of the world is relevant, just a rectifiation.

Should Japan get rid of the flag they were using during WW2 ? I understand the concerns but it's a different matter than the Nazi flag which represents an ideology.

The rising sun flag is associated with their military, in particular, their imperial army. No one is telling Japan to get rid of their hinomaru flag. It is simply being brought up that hey, it is a probably a dumbass idea to keep using the same flag for your military that is now commonly associated with your ww2 crimes.

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I wouldn't compare it to Nazi or Confederate flag, because they represent a specific ideology and purpose, but It would be more accurate to compare it to Swastika, which became offensive symbol because of Nazis despite it having different meaning previously. Rising Sun flag is just as offensive. It is associated with ww2 crimes and comfort women despite it representing some history that Japanese are proud of. 

 

If Japan was apologetic about their war crimes, they would ban it just like Germany banned Swastika. But by doing this, they would indirectly admit the crimes they've committed. 

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America has ruined countries too, and we're talking about modern times, not something way before our time, yet nobody cares about their flags :p

The problem here is people focusing on the past instead of the present/future rlytearpls.png

Have you... Never seen people burning the American flag
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can you imagine if Germany still used the nazi flag. The Japanese government continues to be dumbasses.

Is Germany still dictator-ed  by Hitler or his party to still use Nazi flag ? 

 

There's reaction against Nazi flags because billions has been spend by the zionists to vilify nazis using media,rioters,activists NGOs .

There has been  cyclic release of fictional books and hollywood movies painting nazis as some ultimate form of evil .

 

 

And people still wonder why there are issues between Korea and Japan.

 

It's becuase of things like this. People would stop hating if they would show remorse for their crimes, but they don't, so it's infuriating.

Before 30 years ago ,Korea never cared about some rising sunflag.

Korea don't want peace with Japan.

 

Korean politicians want to profit from the anti japanese sentiments.

NK also have huge influence in the anti japanese sentimesnts in korea.

NK is funding political parties and activists against japan in s.korea.

 

 

 

 

Not to say that Koreans are in the right, but it's instances like this that show why they have such hatred for Japan. So far Japan has done little to show they take the negative impact of the rising sun flag and comfort women seriously. It's almost like they're mocking Koreans, raising the flag in their own country.

Japan has done so little so far Japan has done little to show they take the negative impact of the rising sun flag and comfort women seriously.???

^

That's what Japan gets for helping a snake  nation out of her virtue;fake slanders and smears   .

 

Japan caused much negative impact in Korea by inflicting -Education,infrastructure,law & order,equal human rights,sanitation .

For basically doubling /tripling life expectancy,commerce and living standard during their tenure.

 

For basically pulling out Korea from being one of the poorest and most  deplorable  in Asia and  basically tutoring them into becoming a developed nation.

 

Read what former US president Herbert Hoover wrote about the appalling  " negative impact caused by Japan in korea" in his book 

 

 

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I wouldn't compare it to Nazi or Confederate flag, because they represent a specific ideology and purpose, but It would be more accurate to compare it to Swastika, which became offensive symbol because of Nazis despite it having different meaning previously. Rising Sun flag is just as offensive. It is associated with ww2 crimes and comfort women despite it representing some history that Japanese are proud of. 

 

If Japan was apologetic about their war crimes, they would ban it just like Germany banned Swastika. But by doing this, they would indirectly admit the crimes they've committed. 

Nobody simply associates rising sun flag with ww2 "crimes" & "comfort woman";those  that wants to cause scandalous reactions will make up anything regardless .

Korea wants  to play the victim to hide their own crimes,mass genocides against citizens by the Korean govt itself, to hide their incompetence,their thievery of Japanese aid money from victims and for political leverage in the Pacific like in case of dokdo.It's a tool of diversion and election votes .

All pathetic Korean politicians will seek votes using the anti japanese sentiments during elections.

Same as CHINA ,they want to weaken Japan's influence,win back Taiwan which loves Japan and hates China and also ascertain itself as Asia's most revered nation and premier power.

 

 

 

If I asked ,you wouldn't even be able to provide proper fact based account for those "crimes" or regarding the case of "comfort woman-which is the ultimate bullshit cooked up to deceive by prying on emotions and sentiments of gullible minds ".

 

Japan have nothing much to be apologetic about ; 

Another diifference is ,the current German goverment have zero affiliations to Hitler or his political party,the current German gov is pretty much controlled and works for the  globalists.

Their ideology is totally different than Nationalist Hitler's   ,so the current German administration have no attachment with Nazis and would be more than happy to discard anything related to Nazis.

 
 
 
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Second of all: the "ruiner" doesn't get to decide what is not or not offensive to the people they ruined, nor should an outsider decide that. You can't use other victims reactions to say a completely different groups of victims are reacting wrong. 

 

This also go the way that the ''ruiner'' is not forced to listen to the people they ruined. I don't really care at all about this issue but I don't think Japan is forced by any treaty to listen to whatever South Koreans tell them to do and just bow down and agree.This is like telling the US : '' Hey you done fucked up in so many countries in the world now bow down to them and listen to their orders for the rest of time'' this is not how things work in life lol

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It's moves like this that make me wonder if Japan is completely insensitive or crazy genius. Japan had done a lot of damage in the past, and the threat of not learning their lesson allows them to bring nations to the peace table as if they were a huge military spender country just by saying "We want to re-militarize."

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Is Germany still dictator-ed  by Hitler or his party to still use Nazi flag ? 

 

There's reaction against Nazi flags because billions has been spend by the zionists to vilify nazis using media,rioters,activists NGOs .

There has been  cyclic release of fictional books and hollywood movies painting nazis as some ultimate form of evil .

 

 

Before 30 years ago ,Korea never cared about some rising sunflag.

Korea don't want peace with Japan.

 

Korean politicians want to profit from the anti japanese sentiments.

NK also have huge influence in the anti japanese sentimesnts in korea.

NK is funding political parties and activists against japan in s.korea.

 

 

 

 

Japan has done so little so far Japan has done little to show they take the negative impact of the rising sun flag and comfort women seriously.???

^

That's what Japan gets for helping a snake  nation out of her virtue;fake slanders and smears   .

 

Japan caused much negative impact in Korea by inflicting -Education,infrastructure,law & order,equal human rights,sanitation .

For basically doubling /tripling life expectancy,commerce and living standard during their tenure.

 

For basically pulling out Korea from being one of the poorest and most  deplorable  in Asia and  basically tutoring them into becoming a developed nation.

 

Read what former US president Herbert Hoover wrote about the appalling  " negative impact caused by Japan in korea" in his book 

 

 

herbert_hoover_korea2.jpg

 

 

 
 
 

 

Is kidnapping young girls and using them as sex slaves okay? Is torturing them and treating them as less than humans okay? Is disregarding Korean culture and prohibiting the use of the Korean language in favour of Japanese okay? The good the Japanese did for Korea does not erase the bad. 

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TOKYO - Japan will not refrain from hoisting the rising sun flag at an international naval review in South Korea, despite its neighboring country's concern, the defense minister said Friday.

 

"As a matter of course, we will raise it," Itsunori Onodera told a press conference, referring to the flag that is regarded by some in South Korea and China as a symbol of Japan's wartime aggression.

 

Onodera noted that Japan's Maritime Self-Defense Force's ships are obliged to hoist the flag by the country's law and it has long been recognized as an indicator to which country they belong under the U.N. Convention on the Law of the Sea.

 

On Thursday, a South Korean Navy source said Seoul told Japan and other countries participating in the fleet review in late August that their warships should only raise their own national flags and the national flag of South Korea during next month's event.

 

Onodera also pointed out that the design of the rising sun flag has been widely used in Japan.

 

The rising sun flag was used by the Imperial Japanese Army before the end of World War II. China and South Korea, where bitter memories of Japan's past militarism still run deep, often accuses Tokyo of not atoning enough for the atrocities committed before and during the war.

 

https://japantoday.com/category/politics/japan-defies-s.-korea-call-not-to-use-rising-sun-flag-at-naval-event

I just don't get why Japan still considers that flag of all things a national symbol. They could have decided to discarded the rising sun after WWII but instead, they decided to keep it and normalize it, and now when anyone tells them "Hey, what's with the imperialist flag?" they just say, "oh, it's one of our national symbols, been using it for decades, lol"

 

 

First of all: Confederate flag. 

 

Second of all: the "ruiner" doesn't get to decide what is not or not offensive to the people they ruined, nor should an outsider decide that. You can't use other victims reactions to say a completely different groups of victims are reacting wrong.

 

1) Japan didn't make the decision to keep the flag. The U.S. did

 

2)It was already "normalized" This wasn't a flag they designed to specifically colonize and attack asia. The flag was apart of Japan well before then unlike the confederate or nazi flag. A more apt comparison would be like asking the U.S to change their flag because of the harm that's happened under it.

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Is kidnapping young girls and using them as sex slaves okay? Is torturing them and treating them as less than humans okay? Is disregarding Korean culture and prohibiting the use of the Korean language in favour of Japanese okay? The good the Japanese did for Korea does not erase the bad. 

And how did mademoiselle  came to know everything  on the matter to verdict japan for her deeds? 

 

Is kidnapping young girls and using them as sex slaves okay? 

 

Who is supposed to kidnap who?

Korea have huge illegal  human trafficking & prostitution problem still rampant without Japan's meddling;habits don't die.

 

But ,when korea was under japan's control,dozens local korean newspapers use to constantly report about japanese soldiers freeing korean women from korean comfort station owners & their men.

 

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The comfort stations in Korea were all basically  run by Koreans themselves,not Japanese.It's not  the Japanese army that hired and managed women in korean comfort stations.

 

In fact ,even the comfort stations in China were also mostly run by Koreans. 

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The owners were all Korean although they had Japanese surnames^.

 

 

The following is the order the Japanese military sent to comfort station operators. It says "Do not recruit women against their will. Only recruit willing prostitutes." Japanese businessmen followed the order . But if anything ,the dishonest and unethical  Korean businessmen kept coercing women (as also posted above) ignoring IJA's orders.

 

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So your notion of -" japan kidnapping young girls and using them as sex slaves " is not realistic based on facts.

 

 

 

 

Is disregarding Korean culture and prohibiting the use of the Korean language in favour of Japanese okay? 

What? Did Koreans citizens  even had an endurable living condition let alone "culture" before japan's rule?

 

The Yangbans(ruling class) had basically enslaved majority of the citizens.It was like N.Korea just much worse.The citizens were treated less than dogs .The korea citizens use to have names like pot,stone,pig  before japan gave them proper names and surname-of course in korean(Japan never wanted to assimilate uncivilized and much different Koreans as Japanese),abolished the class system and made Korean citizens feel like human and Koreans.

 

Do you have any proof Japan prohibited korean language?? 

There are school textbooks remaining from the times of annexation ... written in hangul.

 

It is Japan that  revived hangul studies in Korea ,with efforts of Japanese scholars  such as Y. Fukuzawa . 

 

But it's not Japan's fault if back then Koreans were so proud of Japanese and they use to study Japanese and adopt japanese names for career advancement.

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