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What Do You Think Gives Kpop A Bad Rep To Normies?


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Honestly I think a lot of disdain from "normies" towards kpop is just them being unfamiliar with the entire concept and industry. It's something they never bothered to check out and it's kinda something people generally make fun of now. 

 

But yeah, when it comes to it it's really the ballistic fans that give kpop this crazy-obsessive impression it has now to others. 

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The fans.

 

What counts as a normie? Cause stan culture is rampant in western fandoms as well.

 

I think normies in this context refers specifically to non k-pop fans. You're right in that stan culture is rampant pretty much everywhere, especially in the US (Directioners, Beyhive, etc.) but the K-pop industry gives fans more power of idols, which is why it looks even worse from the outside.

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Fandom and Xenophobia

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Firstly, the over sexualization of underage people is definitely something that turns people off.

 

Secondly: every "normie" that I talk about k-pop with has the same rejection to the idea of manufactured musical groups like that. If you think about it, on our side of the globe we value authenticity in our musicians: The sob story of "he made it from nothing" that justin biever had, the enphazis on massive pop singers who write their own songs because it makes them more "real", the "Sound" of a band that changes a little bit and immediately half their fandom accuses them of "pandering to the new musical trend"...

 

Most people here have been educated to hate the idea of an industrial system that pumps out idols as carefully audience-studied products to be bought, and that's exactly what k-pop is.

 

Also the fans are unbearable in youtube. Don't even try to attack me for this, you are either aware of how impossible they are over there or part of the problem

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The mere fact that it's in Korean, a foreign language and an Asian one at that,  can turn off many. A lot of people are just not open to the idea of listening to music in a language they don't understand.  Plus it gives off a manufactured feel, people don't like feminine looking guys wearing make up, the cutesy girl group concept is also weird to many people.

 

Another big reason is overbearing and overenthusiastic fans. Recently Ddaeng by bts was kind of blowing up on soundcloud among non fans but army's obviously had to ruin it by spamming newcomers with bts stuff. I feel like people don't want to associate with things liked by "crazy teenagers", as unfortunate as that sounds. It's similar to people staying away from Justin Bieber or 1D

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as someone who is asian and had a friend who was into kpop before i was into it i had an impression that all (obviously this is not the case) kpop fans are asian fetishisers + spam stuff abt their faves everywhere

the loudest fans make the biggest impact when it comes to initial impressions

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I was once a normie, I was actually turned off by kpop for years due to it's fans (and tons of other facts that i've talked about) and heck my disdain for the kpop fandom has'nt changed at all either. If my first exposure to kpop was via twitter, instagram or tumblr i'd prob still would have disliked the k-idol genre.

 

i did not care for the godlike worship that some kpop fans do with thier idols, I dispise it when western fans do this, but kpop fans seem to take it to another level. You can't have a critical opinion on a faves music, if i dare say i dislike a song from my fave, i would get dogpiled and dragged or shouted, "you are not a real fan if you don't like a song".

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Firstly, the over sexualization of underage people is definitely something that turns people off.

 

Secondly: every "normie" that I talk about k-pop with has the same rejection to the idea of manufactured musical groups like that. If you think about it, on our side of the globe we value authenticity in our musicians: The sob story of "he made it from nothing" that justin biever had, the enphazis on massive pop singers who write their own songs because it makes them more "real", the "Sound" of a band that changes a little bit and immediately half their fandom accuses them of "pandering to the new musical trend"...

 

Most people here have been educated to hate the idea of an industrial system that pumps out idols as carefully audience-studied products to be bought, and that's exactly what k-pop is.

 

Also the fans are unbearable in youtube. Don't even try to attack me for this, you are either aware of how impossible they are over there or part of the problem

 

This is spot on. I have friends who listen to what is basically Kpop in English who cannot get over the "uncanny valley" of a company-produced musical group. And it sucks because they would like the music otherwise :P

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