enchante 4,542 Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 A Christian thread? Just somewhere where we could talk about faith and keep each other accountable and ask questions and discuss. We could also do some bible studies if you’re up to it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micah Bell 567 Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 I always wondered why there isn't one. So, yesshhh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pessego 2,194 Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 Everyone on this site is dang near a Atheists Lol I'll pop in from time to time tho I like the bible ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micah Bell 567 Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 Everyone on this site is dang near a Atheists Lol This is the truth tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hormones 1,612 Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 Everyone on this site is dang near a Atheists Lol I'll pop in from time to time tho I like the bible ^_^ Do you like these verses from the bible ? Deuteronomy 25:11-12 New International Version (NIV) If two men are fighting and the wife of one of them comes to rescue her husband from his assailant, and she reaches out and seizes him by his private parts, 12 you shall cut off her hand. Show her no pity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ego ista 1,344 Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 I always wondered why there isn't one. So, yesshhh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pessego 2,194 Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 Do you like these verses from the bible ? Deuteronomy 25:11-12 New International Version (NIV) If two men are fighting and the wife of one of them comes to rescue her husband from his assailant, and she reaches out and seizes him by his private parts,[/size] [/size]12 you shall cut off her hand. Show her no pity.[/size] Lol I can't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enchante 4,542 Posted September 8, 2018 Author Share Posted September 8, 2018 Do you like these verses from the bible ? Deuteronomy 25:11-12 New International Version (NIV) If two men are fighting and the wife of one of them comes to rescue her husband from his assailant, and she reaches out and seizes him by his private parts,[/size] [/size]12 you shall cut off her hand. Show her no pity.[/size] Hi that law is actually from the old covenant and therefore not applicable. If you’d like me to explain more you’re welcome to dm me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
金彩媛 1,795 Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 I'm pretty sure there used to be one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micah Bell 567 Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 Hi that law is actually from the old covenant and therefore not applicable. If you’d like me to explain more you’re welcome to dm me! Sis, you handled that one well, and with so much class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enchante 4,542 Posted September 8, 2018 Author Share Posted September 8, 2018 Sis, you handled that one well, and with so much class. “Be wise in the way you act toward outsiders; make the most of every opportunity. Let your conversation be always full of grace, seasoned with salt, so that you may know how to answer everyone.†Colossians 4:5-6 Just trying to live like Christ did! That’s attributed to the Holy Spirit, not me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hormones 1,612 Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 Lol I can't lmao it's what you believe idk you love the bible xD Hi that law is actually from the old covenant and therefore not applicable. If you’d like me to explain more you’re welcome to dm me! Applicable to what ? There are things in there that should not even influence people scary stuff. People just like to cherry pick. It's good more people recognize that religion isn't what it appears to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enchante 4,542 Posted September 8, 2018 Author Share Posted September 8, 2018 lmao it's what you believe idk you love the bible xD Applicable to what ? There are things in there that should not even influence people scary stuff. People just like to cherry pick. It's good more people recognize that religion isn't what it appears to be. I’m not cherry picking actually. Old testament law is called the old covenant, it isn’t in practice today, hence why Christians wear clothes of different materials and don’t make animal sacrifices anymore. When Jesus came and lived perfectly and died on the cross he fulfilled the law. Because of the sinful nature of humans we’re unable to live perfectly as he did on earth. His death allows Christians to ask for forgiveness of their sins instead of being condemned by them. The new covenant was made through Jesus and so old testament laws, while they contain truth aren’t actively practiced by most modern Christians anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pessego 2,194 Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 I’m not cherry picking actually. Old testament law is called the old covenant, it isn’t in practice today, hence why Christians wear clothes of different materials and don’t make animal sacrifices anymore. When Jesus came and lived perfectly and died on the cross he fulfilled the law. Because of the sinful nature of humans we’re unable to live perfectly as he did on earth. His death allows Christians to ask for forgiveness of their sins instead of being condemned by them. The new covenant was made through Jesus and so old testament laws, while they contain truth aren’t actively practiced by most modern Christians anymore. Sis came through with the receipts lmao it's what you believe idk you love the bible xD Applicable to what ? There are things in there that should not even influence people scary stuff. People just like to cherry pick. It's good more people recognize that religion isn't what it appears to be. I mean like some said earlier That was the old Covent and things and people have change over the years so things we would thing of as being scary or abnormal was normal to them.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hormones 1,612 Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 I’m not cherry picking actually. Old testament law is called the old covenant, it isn’t in practice today, hence why Christians wear clothes of different materials and don’t make animal sacrifices anymore. When Jesus came and lived perfectly and died on the cross he fulfilled the law. Because of the sinful nature of humans we’re unable to live perfectly as he did on earth. His death allows Christians to ask for forgiveness of their sins instead of being condemned by them. The new covenant was made through Jesus and so old testament laws, while they contain truth aren’t actively practiced by most modern Christians anymore. Yea because of common sense no one following that mess @bold, alot of the things are borrowed from other religions and cultural norms from that time period in the old testament. It's human evolving and civilizations becoming secular is why we have laws that don't follow such primitive law Edit: Btw a religious book is not a historical book so it's just fiction about the New Testament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enchante 4,542 Posted September 8, 2018 Author Share Posted September 8, 2018 Yea because of common sense no one following that mess @bold, alot of the things are borrowed from other religions and cultural norms from that time period in the old testament. It's human evolving and civilizations becoming secular is why we have laws that don't follow such primitive law. I mean you can believe that but I just gave you an answer for the presentation of your verse. Christianity has been around since the beginning of time, and you have to ask yourself, where do these secular laws and norms even come from? Weren’t laws originally based on Christian theology? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hormones 1,612 Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 Sis came through with the receipts I mean like some said earlier That was the old Covent and things and people have change over the years so things we would thing of as being scary or abnormal was normal to them.... I'm not saying that. I wasn't even arguing it's a known fact because civilizations that became secular didn't follow the law of the bible, btw I'm not arguing because the bible it literally a religious book not a historical one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enchante 4,542 Posted September 8, 2018 Author Share Posted September 8, 2018 I'm not saying that. I wasn't even arguing it's a known fact because civilizations that became secular didn't follow the law of the bible, btw I'm not arguing because the bible it literally a religious book not a historical one. So what do you say to historical proofs and accounts that are non biblical of Jesus being a real person? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hormones 1,612 Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 I mean you can believe that but I just gave you an answer for the presentation of your verse. Christianity has been around since the beginning of time, and you have to ask yourself, where do these secular laws and norms even come from? Weren’t laws originally based on Christian theology? No Christianity has not been around since the beginning of time take a history class, many religions such as animism came before that. Many laws that are in the bible originate from Judaism law. Secular laws and norms came from many other civilizations before and after christianity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hormones 1,612 Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 So what do you say to historical proofs and accounts that are non biblical of Jesus being a real person? There are none. So I have nothing to say, but Jesus is most definitely a religious piece of work not a historical one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enchante 4,542 Posted September 8, 2018 Author Share Posted September 8, 2018 There are none. So I have nothing to say, but Jesus is most definitely a religious piece of work not a historical one. There are several actually. The writings of Flavius Josephus a non believer contain references to Jesus. Lucian and Celus who both lived within the timeframe of Jesus’ life denounced him as a scoundrel. There’s no question of his existence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hormones 1,612 Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 There are several actually. The writings of Flavius Josephus a non believer contain references to Jesus. Lucian and Celus who both lived within the timeframe of Jesus’ life denounced him as a scoundrel. There’s no question of his existence. My fault I was wrong however a lot of scholar agree that the super natural and miraculous abilities and event are fictitious. So yea. Btw why and when did you believe in Christianity ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oltre Luna 1,299 Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 Hi that law is actually from the old covenant and therefore not applicable. If you’d like me to explain more you’re welcome to dm me! Maybe you snapped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enchante 4,542 Posted September 8, 2018 Author Share Posted September 8, 2018 My fault I was wrong however a lot of scholar agree that the super natural and miraculous abilities and event are fictitious. So yea. Btw why and when did you believe in Christianity ? Yeah but scholars have been denouncing Jesus for centuries even today. Take a look at the flaws in the scientific origins of the world and creation. When you look at the theories in total they're very unsteady because they refuse to acknowledge even the possibility of an intelligent designer. I was saved in my freshman year of high school! For a long time I struggled with self-harm, suicide and depression. I transferred to a Christian school due to bullying. Jesus quite literally saved my life. I believe in him because the world is too complicated not to. There's too many details and isms to believe we were made by chance. I've seen God work in ways that no human can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hormones 1,612 Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 Yeah but scholars have been denouncing Jesus for centuries even today. Take a look at the flaws in the scientific origins of the world and creation. When you look at the theories in total they're very unsteady because they refuse to acknowledge even the possibility of an intelligent designer. I was saved in my freshman year of high school! For a long time I struggled with self-harm, suicide and depression. I transferred to a Christian school due to bullying. Jesus quite literally saved my life. I believe in him because the world is too complicated not to. There's too many details and isms to believe we were made by chance. I've seen God work in ways that no human can. No I was wrong, scholars do not refute the existence of a person named Jesus, but many of the things that happened in the bible is simply unverified. You can't say something happened if isn't verified through historical scholars. But anyways that's too much going into the bible because it has so many stories that defy reality, not going to believe anything in it or take it seriously. I used to be a Christian from the age of 5-16 and went to Catholic school. But the more I thought about it the less credible it sounded and watched many documentaries which poked a lot of holes in the Christianity. I also went through reading the whole bible many times which made me think that maybe I'm wrong. Now I know I was wrong it's nothing more than a belief with no logic, just something with wistful beliefs and emotional attachment that ignores evidence based reasoning. Faith is literally believing in something with no evidence, I refuse to follow any type of religion. Religion looks like it's on the decline maybe it's because people are evolving and questions their beliefs because it falls apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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