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After WW2, Japan was restraint from seeking millitary expansion by constitution but for years they slowly loosen their shackles. From North Korea threat to China regarding SEA. It seems they no longer can stand doing nothing and lets China claims any sea they want as theirs imo

And they actually have reasons to expand their millitary as self-defense, their millitary budget for next year increase by alot. I think they will get support from their international alliances as Japan image is much more favourable in present day than China.

 

And honestly, if any Asian country that can rival with China in the future, its Japan. They actually has strong economy to fund their millitary if they want.

 

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2018/08/31/national/politics-diplomacy/japan-eyes-record-defense-budget-amid-north-korean-chinese-threats/

Japan’s Defense Ministry eyes record defense budget amid North Korean and Chinese threats

 

https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2018/08/31/japan-eyes-record-spending-on-military/

 

TOKYO — Japan’s Defense Ministry is seeking to more than double spending on missile defense, including purchases of costly American arsenals, to defend against North Korean threats.

The record-high 5.3 trillion yen ($47 billion) request for fiscal 2019, approved Friday by the ministry, is up 2.1 percent from last year. Military spending has risen seven consecutive years under Prime Minister Shinzo Abe.

 

The request related to missile defense rises to 424 billion yen ($3.8 billion) from about 180 billion yen last year. The overall government budget plan is to be submitted for Cabinet and parliamentary approval later this year.

 

 

The final budget could still grow because the request leaves out spending to reduce Okinawan communities' burden of hosting many of 50,000 American troops stationed on the southern island and a relocation cost for some troops to the U.S. Pacific territory of Guam.

A big chunk would buy a pair of land-based Aegis missile defense systems and a ship-to-air SM-3 Block IIA interceptor with an expanded range and accuracy developed jointly by the U.S. and Japan, as well as upgrading of fighter jets and destroyers to make them compatible with advanced interceptors.

 

Japan has pushed harder to upgrade and bolster its missile and strike-back capability, citing North Korea's nuclear and missile threat. The Defense Ministry, in an annual military review released this week, emphasized the need to further strengthen missile defenses because North Korea hasn't taken concrete steps to denuclearize despite its pledge to do so.

 

Opposition to Japan's big spending on missile defense has risen since Pyongyang suspended missile tests this year as it made diplomatic overtures to the U.S. and South Korea. Japan's use of U.S. weapons is beneficial to its alliance with Washington, but opponents say it benefits American arms industry but not struggling Japanese makers.

In the budget request, Japan's U.S. arms purchases under the Foreign Military Sales program would jump 70 percent from last year to a record 692 billion yen ($6.2 billion).

 

Japan currently has a two-step missile defense system — interceptors on destroyers in the Sea of Japan, and if they fail, land-to-air mobile PAC-3s. Technically, the current setup can deal with falling debris or missiles fired at Japan, but is insufficient for high-altitude missiles or multiple attacks, experts say.

A pair of land-based Aegis systems can cover entire Japan and multiply missile defense, experts say. It would cost 100 billion yen ($900 million) more than an earlier estimate as Japan chose Lockheed Martin's expensive LMSSR radar, said to be capable of shooting down cruise and other missiles on high-altitude trajectory.

 

Japan is currently updating its national defense guidelines and a medium-term defense program, expected at the end of the year, to reflect North Korea's threat. Japan also sees China's growing military spending, modernization of equipment and assertiveness in regional seas as security concern and has stepped up amphibious capabilities to defend disputed islands in the East China Sea.

 

 

In the face of China’s rising air force capability, the ministry requested 54 billion yen ($480 million) to upgrade F-15 fighters so they can carry more ammunition, including cruise missiles, and to increase their electronic warfare capability. It also sought 92 billion yen ($820 million) for six F-35 stealth fighters and 14 billion yen ($125 million) for the research of a new high-speed arsenal to defend Japanese remote islands.

The budget request includes 93 billion yen ($830 million) in space and cyber defense, including purchasing of deep space surveillance radar and scaling up of a cyber-defense unit.

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Don't think so

 

Not in like war war

But conflict in region power and at sea. They not gonna allow China to act anyway they want.

I see the clash at the sea will happen often if Japan has millitary ready for it (they staying low key be4 becuz they aren't). Expect UN to resolve sea conflict is shit, better relying on their own hand.

 

"Japan also sees China's growing military spending, modernization of equipment and assertiveness in regional seas as security concern and has stepped up amphibious capabilities to defend disputed islands in the East China Sea." It always start like this ALWAYS

 

They really not joking anymore.

"As Prime Minister Shinzo Abe reinforces the Self-Defense Forces to respond to any North Korea missile strike and counter China’s growing air and sea power in the waters around Japan."

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US castrated Japan military technology and might long ago. Japan cannot match China strength in anytime. Losing the control of Diaoyu island is a good example.:)

Its good wake up call and plus, I think now is finally good time for them to step out as they have good reason for it. They deserved that restrainmemt before so..

 

And Japan is rich with all that unspend money to millitary, it not gonna take that long to invest if they really want (China budget right now is 185B which is also a big increase), its really big step for Japan to make as its enormous increase for them. Also, U.S is ready to sell anything to Japan now. Its actually an advantage to U.S millitary to make money over this cuz a lot of this money budget going to U.S based on these articles.

 

The point here is not going to war with China (which won't happen for a long long time in present day) but make themselves capable enough in upcoming years to counter attack at sea and from threat, and also gaining back some power. To do that, they need to start invest huge money on millitary which they did now.

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Its good wake up call and plus, I think now is finally good time for them to step out as they have good reason for it. They deserved that restrainmemt before so..

 

And Japan is rich with all that unspend money to millitary, it not gonna take that long to invest if they really want (China budget right now is 185B which is also a big increase), its really big step for Japan to make as its enormous increase for them. Also, U.S is ready to sell anything to Japan now. Its actually an advantage to U.S millitary to make money over this cuz a lot of this money budget going to U.S based on these articles.

 

The point here is not going to war with China (which won't happen for a long long time in present day) but make themselves capable enough in upcoming years to counter attack at sea and from threat, and also gaining back some power. To do that, they need to start invest huge money on millitary which they did now.

Japan is not really rich country. You must take account to military spending to GDP. Both Japan and US are higher than China. US has the tendency to increase that ratio or readly done so by Trump.

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Japan is not really rich country. You must take account to military spending to GDP. Both Japan and US are higher than China. US has the tendency to increase that ratio or readly done so by Trump.

It doesn't matter to U.S. We used to spending (its expected to increase every year Lmao and compare to Obama administration, it consider smaller increase than we predicted).

Obama vs Trumph millitary budget, it only increase by 19B. Its not really a different to last administration. Since u so obsessed with our politic, you should know LOL

https://www.vox.com/world/2017/5/24/15681846/trump-defense-budget-obama-readiness

Anyway, U.S/Japan are countries that continue generate and won't push the nation to the corner over economy sanction like to N.S and Iran for millitary funding. Therefore, I don't think GDP is a strong reason for Japan.

This scenario is high likely to happened with Japan budget progress for the last 7yrs. In the next 5yrs, it will be interesting to see how far they going.

1. U.S gonna pushed Japan for next millitary supower in upcoming years for check and balance in Asia for China while making profit over it. As U.S kinda ignored Asia for awhile now.

2. Japan has similar political value as U.S. Its win-win

Another big win when Trumph finally step down next election for fucking meeting with Putin.

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It doesn't matter to U.S. We used to spending (its expected to increase every year Lmao and compare to Obama administration, it consider smaller increase than we predicted).

Obama vs Trumph millitary budget, it only increase by 19B. Its not really a different to last administration. Since u so obsessed with our politic, you should know LOL

https://www.vox.com/world/2017/5/24/15681846/trump-defense-budget-obama-readiness

Anyway, U.S/Japan are countries that continue generate and won't push the nation to the corner over economy sanction like to N.S and Iran for millitary funding. Therefore, I don't think GDP is a strong reason for Japan.

This scenario is high likely to happened with Japan budget progress for the last 7yrs. In the next 5yrs, it will be interesting to see how far they going.

1. U.S gonna pushed Japan for next millitary supower in upcoming years for check and balance in Asia for China while making profit over it. As U.S kinda ignored Asia for awhile now.

2. Japan has similar political value as U.S. Its win-win

Another big win when Trumph finally step down next election for fucking meeting with Putin.

Trump military spending is $717 billion fyi. Higher than Obama in ratio. 3.5% of GDP. 3% is the limit of any country to spend during peace time.

https://www.adweek.com/agencies/president-trumps-717-billion-defense-spending-bill-withholds-50-of-the-armys-marketing-budget/

Plus US sanction many countries. You have not include Russia, Venezuela, Cuba, Myanmar, Syria.

US never stop countering China. Your Hillary and Obama had proposed the Pivoted to Asia where US will send 60% of it force to Asia. Trump has not reduce the military proposed by them. Anyway, good luck pushing for military race spending. China third aircraft carrier is on assembly line, 6 Type 055 are harbour waiting for commission. Keep spending.smile.png

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Trump military spending is $717 billion fyi. Higher than Obama in ratio. 3.5% of GDP. 3% is the limit of any country to spend during peace time.

https://www.adweek.com/agencies/president-trumps-717-billion-defense-spending-bill-withholds-50-of-the-armys-marketing-budget/

Plus US sanction many countries. You have not include Russia, Venezuela, Cuba, Myanmar, Syria.

US never stop countering China. Your Hillary and Obama had proposed the Pivoted to Asia where US will send 60% of it force to Asia. Trump has not reduce the military proposed by them. Anyway, good luck pushing for military race spending. China third aircraft carrier is on assembly line, 6 Type 055 are harbour waiting for commission. Keep spending.:)

"The 2019 Defense Budget passed with overwhelmingly bipartisan support – a vote of 87-10 in the Senate and 359-54 in the House" So its not just about Trump but our whole government agree with the list for the budget.

And...

"This is the earliest the defense budget has been passed in the last 40 years." So why u worried over how much we spend when like everyone in our Congress completely agreed with the budget.

 

I just look at the list, lots going to increase soldiers pay rate, veteran benefits, assistance to family etc which all Americans would want that for them.

https://militarybenefits.info/2019-defense-budget/#ixzz5PvwbxjNJ

 

Also what millitary race spending when China is 185B while we already at 700B+ for next year...Its always higher from 1year to 1yr. Its something that we expected be at peace OR not, Or under Trump administration or not.

 

And what the countries that we sanction actually do to our economy in the 1st place? Yes, NOTHING. Except Russia rank at #30 (which barely almost close to 7billion export last year), none of the rest can be found in our Top30 trading partners.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_largest_trading_partners_of_the_United_States

If we can initiate trading war with China which actually our #1 trading partner (although its #3 interm of export for us, #4 if it count EU as a whole), u think those countries actually matter to our economy LOL Ironically, China will be the 1st country to protect U.S dollars value with how much they pump into our bond for decades and to increase Dollar value when Trump suggested to devalue dollar and the rest of the world that invest and stacking U.S dollars for a long time.

 

It seems that I'm right Lmaoo

Japan/US just joined huge drill in SouthEast Asia which Japan said they want to have mutual trust with China just 2 months ago regarding SEA and this gonna make China mad LOL Like I predicted, Japan not going to sit back and just watch losing control..and U.S has more motivation than EVER after trading war, we no longer has reason to just watch to keep up with good relationship over economic reason (25% tariffs for 200B over Chinese goods expected to apply after September6. That's it even much more than we export our goods to China which is 130B. We still have close to another 300B Chinese goods that we haven't touch). So clash in SouthEast Asia will happen.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1011845/south-china-sea-dispute-military-drills-us-japan-ww3

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