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Why do idols think sporting bandannas and dressing like gangbangers make them more "hip hop"


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Lmao, it was the funniest on Unpretty Rap Star, with Heize wearing sagging/baggy pants, and some other girls wearing snapbacks and tracksuits.

 

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Because a lot of hip hop concepts do that? Even black artists do it even tho it's more common in early 2000's

 

 

It’s not a concept over here. A lot of those rappers are actually gang affiliated.

 

He's wearing a normal hoodie wtf is he supposed to wear a hanbok

Girl that’s an reaction image not an example adfsgg

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It’s not a concept over here. A lot of those rappers are actually gang affiliated.

 

 

And MANY are not not tho lol. There are many rappers that were born a non gang life. And you can't expect to dress like that and do hip hop and not expect others to follow. It's still a concept that many black people do in the west so I see no problem with people in Kpop doing it.

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And MANY are not not tho lol. There are many rappers that were born a non gang life. And you can't expect to dress like that and do hip hop and not expect others to follow. It's still a concept that many black people do in the west so I see no problem with people in Kpop doing it.

I think you’re missing my point. Lil Wayne has claimed to be a Blood for the longest. He, along with numerous other rappers knew what their gang apparel, tattoos, etc. stood for when they were shown off. That’s not a concept, people are killed over this mess.

While aspects of gang culture are ingrained in hip hop, dressing like a gangbanger isn’t a requirement to be a rapper. Idols can show the world their talent without dressing like something they’re not.

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I think you’re missing my point. Lil Wayne has claimed to be a Blood for the longest. He, along with numerous other rappers knew what their gang apparel, tattoos, etc. stood for when they were shown off. That’s not a concept, people are killed over this mess.

While aspects of gang culture are ingrained in hip hop, dressing like a gangbanger isn’t a requirement to be a rapper. Idols can show the world their talent without dressing like something they’re not.

And you are missing mines. I know lil wayne is a real gang member BUT NUMEROUS rappers are also born rich  and dressed like that TOO and no one bats an eye (I said this already but I guess you conveniently misread it). It's still a concept no matter what. Just because it had a violent origin doesn't make it not a concept. People have used thanksgiving concept for things but the origin was violent with pilgrims killing the Indians....Back on topic, so many guys dress like that in general and 99% of them are not gangstas. You can't just list me actual gang members and say they are the only people that dress like that when that's far from the truth when it became a mainstream style for numerous of rappers that lives non violent lives.

 

Let kpop idols dress as they want. Many hip hop concepts from BLACK PEOPLE (gangsters or not) dress like that so of course others will dress like that too. 

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No racial but why are black people so pressed/triggered about style?

 

As a Filipino-American

 

I'd LOVE it when white dudes or races/skin of color try or wear Filipino culture. From food or to customs. Like Barongs which we consider formal and it looks legit when other races wear it.

 

Hell. People who visit Japan or Korea. Foreigners love wearing the Kimonos or Hanboks etc. India. The clothes and seeing Nick Jonas engagement photos were dope.

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And you are missing mines. I know lil wayne is a real gang member BUT NUMEROUS rappers are also born rich  and dressed like that TOO and no one bats an eye (I said this already but I guess you conveniently misread it). It's still a concept no matter what. Just because it had a violent origin doesn't make it not a concept. People have used thanksgiving concept for things but the origin was violent with pilgrims killing the Indians....Back on topic, so many guys dress like that in general and 99% of them are not gangstas. You can't just list me actual gang members and say they are the only people that dress like that when that's far from the truth when it became a mainstream style for numerous of rappers that lives non violent lives.

 

Let kpop idols dress as they want. Many hip hop concepts from BLACK PEOPLE (gangsters or not) dress like that so of course others will dress like that too.

 

1. Whether or not dreads should be considered cultural appropriation in the first place is debatable. This isn’t even related to the thread, so I don’t know what the point of bringing up my sig was.

 

2. I didn’t conveniently misread anything. I thought you’d see the two aren’t comparable with my last reply, but I guess not. Anyway, we can just agree to disagree and leave it at that.

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No racial but why are black people so pressed/triggered about style?

As a Filipino-American

I'd LOVE it when white dudes or races/skin of color try or wear Filipino culture. From food or to customs. Like Barongs which we consider formal and it looks legit when other races wear it.

Hell. People who visit Japan or Korea. Foreigners love wearing the Kimonos or Hanboks etc. India. The clothes and seeing Nick Jonas engagement photos were dope.

“ No racial but *makes it racial* â€

 

It’s just annoying to see idols unintentionally repping shit they don’t know or understand in order to seem authentic. It’s not the same as foreigners visiting another country and wearing traditional Asian clothing because the natives are encouraging participation.

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1. Whether or not dreads should be considered cultural appropriation in the first place is debatable. This isn’t even related to the thread, so I don’t know what the point of bringing up my sig was.

2. I didn’t conveniently misread anything. I thought you’d see the two aren’t comparable with my last reply, but I guess not. Anyway, we can just agree to disagree and leave it at that.

nah they are absolutely comparable because MANY black western non gang members rappers do it since its consider a concept and style of hip hop, so there is nothing wrong with kpop idols doing it and makes no sense to complain about it~
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nah they are absolutely comparable because MANY black western non gang members rappers do it since its consider a concept and style of hip hop, so there is nothing wrong with kpop idols doing it and makes no sense to complain about it~

I was trying to let this go because I didn’t feel like writing an essay, but for some reason you keep quoting me. No, Black people participating in something they’re responsible for creating is not the same as idols doing the shit as a quirky concept they can switch up next promotion cycle. Even if they aren’t bout that life, these rappers know what they’re portraying and repping. Chances are they know someone that’s at least familiar with actual gang banging. Kpop idols know none of these things. They’re mimicking what they think all hip hop is with no regard or knowledge to what they’re presenting. That shit is corny. Ask any idol if they want to be associated with violence, trapping, etc. and I guarantee they’ll all answer with a swift, “No.†Meanwhile, that’s exactly the kind of image a lot of these rappers are trying to convey.

 

Anyway, the best examples I can think of (and that I’m hoping you’ll be able to understand) are EXP and Chad Future. They’re constantly flooded with hate because they’re outsiders that don’t know shit about kpop. They’re essentially mimicking what they think kpop is and know nothing outside of that. That “Kpop is a concept and style, so there’s nothing wrong with doing it~†argument is never brought up because people understand that there’s more to it than that. I don’t see how people can’t do the same with hip hop.

 

I honestly don’t care whether you agree or not, but I’d appreciate it if you stopped quoting me now. Good night.

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I was trying to let this go because I didn’t feel like writing an essay, but for some reason you keep quoting me. No, Black people participating in something they’re responsible for creating is not the same as idols doing the shit as a quirky concept they can switch up next promotion cycle. Even if they aren’t bout that life, these rappers know what they’re portraying and repping. Chances are they know someone that’s at least familiar with actual gang banging. Kpop idols know none of these things. They’re mimicking what they think all hip hop is with no regard or knowledge to what they’re presenting. That shit is corny. Ask any idol if they want to be associated with violence, trapping, etc. and I guarantee they’ll all answer with a swift, “No.†Meanwhile, that’s exactly the kind of image a lot of these rappers are trying to convey.

 

Anyway, the best examples I can think of (and that I’m hoping you’ll be able to understand) are EXP and Chad Future. They’re constantly flooded with hate because they’re outsiders that don’t know shit about kpop. They’re essentially mimicking what they think kpop is and know nothing outside of that. That “Kpop is a concept and style, so there’s nothing wrong with doing it~†argument is never brought up because people understand that there’s more to it than that. I don’t see how people can’t do the same with hip hop.

 

I honestly don’t care whether you agree or not, but I’d appreciate it if you stopped quoting me now. Good night.

well said

i think some of the people who are misunderstanding your point also really do not know the difference between gang affiliated clothing and hip hop street wear, not to mention im sure they've never lived in a neighborhood with gangs and can't even being to understand the stupidity much less danger of wearing gang affiliated clothing as a concept rolleyes.gif

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well said

i think some of the people who are misunderstanding your point also really do not know the difference between gang affiliated clothing and hip hop street wear, not to mention im sure they've never lived in a neighborhood with gangs and can't even being to understand the stupidity much less danger of wearing gang affiliated clothing as a concept :rolleyes:

Maybe that’s where the confusion stems from? Like people over here die every day over gang mess. Back in school, we weren’t even allowed to wear certain apparel because the district was scared of possible gang violence. This stuff isn’t a game :/

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