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Suicide bombers kill themselves whilst killing others in the name of their cause in order to become martyrs....

 

 

 

As long as they are dying whilst fighting what they believe in, they can become a martyr

 

 

1 : a person who voluntarily suffers death as the penalty of witnessing to and refusing to renounce a religion

 

Suicide is a voluntary death so that doesn't refute it

 

2 : a person who sacrifices something of great value and especially life itself for the sake of principle

 

Suicide is sacrificing their own life so that doesn't refute it either

 

3 : victim; especially : a great or constant sufferer

 

People who commit suicide normally are victims of something and have greatly and consistently suffered, so still doesn't refute it

As a penalty of refusing to renounce a religion/belief

Now I’m not studying every and all cases for suicide bombers but most aren’t being forced to renounce under penalty of death they’re doing it because of the religion yes but to be a martyr you’d have to be actively forced and told to renounce it or else you’d be tortured or killed

 

And even if we did include suicide bombers there’s still a distinction between them and plain suicide there are different reasons for plain suicide like depression while suicide bombers only do it because of religion so there’s your distinction not just press coverage

if we did count bombers as martyrs anyway

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It's these substandard motels

On the corner of 4th and Freemont Street

Appealing, only because they're just that unappealing

Any practiced Catholic would cross themselves upon entering

The rooms have a hint of asbestos

And maybe just a dash of formaldehyde

And the habit of decomposing right before your very eyes

Along with the people inside

 

OMG YES BUILD GOD THEN WE'LL TALK IS JUST THAT SONG HOLY FUCK

INSIDEEEEEEE

 

WHAT A WONDERFUL

 

CARICATURE OF

 

 

INTIMACY

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There are no raindrops on roses and girls in white dresses
It's sleeping with roaches and taking best guesses
At the shade of the sheets and before all the stains
And a few more of your least favorite things

 

As a penalty of refusing to renounce a religion/belief
Now I’m not studying every and all cases for suicide bombers but most aren’t being forced to renounce under penalty of death they’re doing it because of the religion yes but to be a martyr you’d have to be actively forced and told to renounce it or else you’d be tortured or killed

And even if we did include suicide bombers there’s still a distinction between them and plain suicide there are different reasons for plain suicide like depression while suicide bombers only do it because of religion so there’s your distinction not just press coverage
if we did count bombers as martyrs anyway

Martyrdom isn't just about religion though...

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There are no raindrops on roses and girls in white dresses

It's sleeping with roaches and taking best guesses

At the shade of the sheets and before all the stains

And a few more of your least favorite things

 

Martyrdom isn't just about religion though...

I always thought it was "taking bad chances" instead of "best guesses" I wonder if these lyrics sites are correct at all

 

Anyway Build God Then We'll Talk is the best song about prostitution I ever heard ugh

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I always thought it was "taking bad chances" instead of "best guesses" I wonder if these lyrics sites are correct at all

 

Anyway Build God Then We'll Talk is the best song about prostitution I ever heard ugh

Apparently it isn't actually about a prostitute and about a catholic virgin who has to sleep with her employer to get a job ;-;;

 

 

 

But tea anyway

 

 

 

And idk most site I've seen say guesses, but I don't have a physical copy of the album so I don't have the official lyrics ;-;;

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Apparently it isn't actually about a prostitute and about a catholic virgin who has to sleep with her employer to get a job ;-;;

 

 

 

But tea anyway

 

 

 

And idk most site I've seen say guesses, but I don't have a physical copy of the album so I don't have the official lyrics ;-;;

Wow it still sad ;; it can still be applied about prostitution though bc the house they talk about I thought it was a bordel. Anyway wtf the lyrics are so good like when he says she was fixing her face in compact and there was a terrible crash ;;;! Bish i cry
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Wow it still sad ;; it can still be applied about prostitution though bc the house they talk about I thought it was a bordel. Anyway wtf the lyrics are so good like when he says she was fixing her face in compact and there was a terrible crash ;;;! Bish i cry

The lyrics are fucking incredible, Ryan was a genius ;-;;

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i'm crying at y'all debating what is and isn't a martyr

 

but cally was just posting p!atd lyrics

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Song title but tbh dsfghkljdg

A point which was wrong :imstupid:

Then refute the last points I made

The only thing you said in response was it wasn’t always about religion which I clarified and it didn’t prove it wrong

 

There’s a difference between martyrdom and suicide

Other than press :imstupid:

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Then refute the last points I made

The only thing you said in response was it wasn’t always about religion which I clarified and it didn’t prove it wrong

 

There’s a difference between martyrdom and suicide

Other than press imstupid.png

Lets put it this way

 

 

 

 

If I as a trans woman, went into full time activism constantly promoting my ideals and beliefs, to try and create a safer world for trans people, and end up setting up a big campaign and spectacle for it, and end up committing suicide for that cause, then I could become a martyr

 

 

 

Or if say, someone is fighting against prejudice which they face, to rally people to their cause, they may end up willingly let themselves get attacked by that prejudice and even get killed, e.g lynched

 

 

Which could come across as suicide because they were intentionally letting their self get killed

 

 

 

And then they could be a martyr

 

 

 

 

 

Basically any suicide story could become a martyrdom as long as it has the PR and press coverage for it

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