Before Western Validation Was a Thing...

[Aquamaraqua]

Remember this?

 

 

 

It is a shame that NH sucks at management. Half the group was fluent in English then and they have multiple songs in English so it could have really been a chance to gain a wider audience.

[Delincious]

western validation was always a thing throughout the last decade

[Aquamaraqua]

western validation was always a thing throughout the last decade

It only recently became a huge issue though in kpop lol

[freya]

It only recently became a huge issue though in kpop lol

That term became huge because it was used as an insult that heavily implied fans were seeking some kind of approval from the west. Actual stateside promo and attempts at the market aren't very new.

 

That being said I didn't know about this interview!

[pinkpanda_spirit]

u-kiss was THE intl group

[Delincious]

It only recently became a huge issue though in kpop lol

nah sis there were big fights about western cred during suju vs bigbang era already

you either werent there or werent exposed to

but it definitely was already a big thing

whther x or y group was featured in whatever magazine

or this irrelevant online fan voting poll

or how many non korea itunes they ranked in

etc

[Aquamaraqua]

That term became huge because it was used as an insult that heavily implied fans were seeking some kind of approval from the west. Actual stateside promo and attempts at the market aren't very new.

 

That being said I didn't know about this interview!

As a Kpop fan for over 9 years I am aware. I used western validation in the title as satire.

nah sis there were big fights about western cred during suju vs bigbang era already

you either werent there or werent exposed to

but it definitely was already a big thing

whther x or y group was featured in whatever magazine

or this irrelevant online fan voting poll

or how many non korea itunes they ranked in

etc

See above. It has only recently become *this* big of an issue because BTS have actually crossed over.

[Delincious]

As a Kpop fan for over 9 years I am aware. I used western validation in the title as satire.

 

See above. It has only recently become *this* big of an issue because BTS have actually crossed over.

oh my god. 

No.

[PeachyKeys!]

western validation was always a thing throughout the last decade

Been listening to kpop for over a decade. Can confirm

[Aquamaraqua]

Been listening to kpop for over a decade. Can confirm

 

oh my god. 

No.

 

No one is denying the fact that it's not new. But it's such a meme now (in part due to how much more prevalent of an issue it is, compared to before), which is why my title was labeled as how it is. My title was meant to poke fun at those who use "western validation" in a demeaning way. As far as I'm aware, it has not been used as a demeaning term as much before than it is now. BTS have just capitalized on a bridge that's been building itself for a while now, which also helped them propel themselves much further than anyone before them has ever been. The issue (demeaning term) is much bigger now than it was before due in part to the fact that BTS have crossed over successfully while other before them have not (to this extent, at least)... You can disagree with the latter, that is a debate for another day. But let me live with how I choose to phrase my titles playing off a meme-y term, lol

 

I don't think that warrants any disgruntled replies.

[PeachyKeys!]

It's just so important to expand your horizons, you know? If you surround yourself with news from group, you'll start believing in lies.

[Good Luck]

As expected from Ubiquitous Korean International Super Stars