Would a western Produce 101 ever work?

[enchante]

Seeing as masked singer is coming to America do you guys think there could ever be an American Produce 101 to make the next little mix, fifth harmony, spice girls, or destiny's child?

[lalisabp]

yeah, there’s American idol

[Do It Amazing DIA]

no i don't see it

[JeanneD'Arc]

no i don't see it

[UMJI MOODS]

 

no i don't see it

 

[EXOKingJongdae]

I really don't think so. America's Got Talent and Britain's Got Talent often put groups together and it never works out (unless you're 1D, FH, and LM). In Latin America and the Philippines there's something called La Banda / Pinoy Boyband Superstar and it's also live voting and I don't recall if they're popular enough to be called successful.

 

Edit: Did some googling CNCO was from La Banda whatttT? lmfao. I don't know if they're super relevant tho. 

[Loonathehoe]

 

 

no i don't see it

 

[Neito]

No, most the groups end up flopping in the long run. Plus Girl and Boy groups aren't that popular in the West anymore

[BeatrixKiddo]

The closest thing we have to it is The X Factor (where both Little Mix and Fifth Harmony were formed) and that was really successful for awhile..well the UK version was.

[SheeraEtheral]

I miss Danity Kane :(

[AquaBlue]

I really don't think so. America's Got Talent and Britain's Got Talent often put groups together and it never works out (unless you're 1D, FH, and LM). In Latin America and the Philippines there's something called La Banda / Pinoy Boyband Superstar and it's also live voting and I don't recall if they're popular enough to be called successful.

 

Edit: Did some googling CNCO was from La Banda whatttT? lmfao. I don't know if they're super relevant tho. 

CNCO had only one song that was a hit here in South/Central America. They're not that popular among the general public.

 

In the USA, there's a show similar to it. It's called 'Boy Band' and that's how 'In Real Life' was formed. They're not that popular though here in the states.

 

I don't think a produce 101 will ever work to be honest. People aren't interested in boy bands anymore since majority of them are tacky. 

 

To be honest, the only boy band that shows any signs of popularity here in the states at the moment is BTS (charts & sales) because no other boy group has cracked 100K+ sales since 1D.

[adina kim]

there will be alooot of drama,aloot

[beingpositivehere]

there will be alooot of drama,aloot

[A h n]

Nah, I don't think so, America doesn't have the Korean idol trainee system

[namidaone]

Imagine PD101 + Dance Moms + AI 

w/ national producer Beyonce 

and Abby+Britney as the dance mentors 

and Nicole + Ariana as the vocal mentors 

and Nicki + Cardi B as the rap mentors 

[dwejitokki]

I don't think so. Boygroups and girlgroups aren't as popular as in South Korea.

 

But i Think something like Unpretty Rapstar would be very popular (at least for the drama)

[A Hamster Named Loneliness]

yeah, there’s American idol

 

 

American Idol isn't the same thing since the winners of that show become soloists. 

[Aneira3019]

We've had shows like it in the past but there's no point in them now with xfactor (Though even that is losing popularity)

 

Girls aloud was formed through a reality show but something so big like produce really wouldn't work

[geez]

maybe if they dont try to make a kpop group (I mean, not follow korean idol culture and all)

I think the biggest problem would be them working as a team and being able to dance and sing

[blackBandit]

 

 

 

no i don't see it

 

 

Nope, idol culture is entirely different in the west.

[TENTASTIC]

No. To begin with western artists are not even trained. They're literally scouted and straight up debuted in most cases. They don't have "idol culture". It would be a mess. Also the west is mainly focusing on solo artists nowadays, groups are not even that popular. All I hear about are solo artists, I wish I could name one boy group or girl group that is blowing up in America but not one comes to my mind (Besides BTS). Also, why would they make a Western Produce 101 if they have shows like American Idol, America's Got Talent and The Voice? Even The X Factor, that even though it is from the UK 3 of their groups made it to the Western Market and look at them. One of them is on a never ending hiatus. One disbanded. And honestly I don't know what's up with Little Mix. The Wanted kind of made it but they flopped.

So, to make it more simplified: The West prefers solo artists. Reason why they don't have that many shows that create groups but shows that just debuts contestants as soloists. Back in the day groups were a thing (Spice Girls, NSYNC, Backstreet Boys, Destiny's Child, The Beatles, The Pussycat Dolls, TLC, etc) but not anymore. They either disband, go on hiatus or straight up flop after awhile.

[SJJD]

there already was a similar show called popstar

[namidaone]

No. To begin with western artists are not even trained. They're literally scouted and straight up debuted in most cases. 

Then they're like Sohye and Guanlin from PD101 who debuted with little training (or none in Sohye's case).

Also there are lots of Western artists from bgs and ggs with prior training before they debuted. Even One Direction members had prior training and exp from previous auditions, musicals/shows, and band gigs. Some were even performing arts students.

[TENTASTIC]

Then they're like Sohye and Guanlin from PD101 who debuted with little training (or none in Sohye's case).

Also there are lots of Western artists from bgs and ggs with prior training before they debuted. Even One Direction members had prior training and exp from previous auditions, musicals/shows, and band gigs. Some were even performing arts students.

Like I said, in most cases they don't train. In most cases the time that it takes them to debut it's for them to prepare their debut song, music video and album. In Kpop it is still rare for them to debut without training from their company or any previous company, if they ever debut with little training or none it probably is because they are pretty skilled at what they do already. That or, also because the company is rushed to find more members for certain group (Wonder Girls Yeeun as an example). From my point of view, Produce 101 contestants don't count as an example of debuting with little training because they're still trainees and get trained in the show too. Most of these cases of Produce 101 it feels like companies send them, not to debut, but to gain an audience and they might get lucky if they debut which means more audience. After Produce 101, Sohye has her acting career and the fans of I.O.I and Produce 101 probably still check her out, she had no training in singing so it was quite obvious the company mainly wanted her to get an audience, if not, then why send an acting trainee to a survival show where the main point is to debut in an idol girl group? For Guanlin's case, he is going to debut in a group after Wanna One disbands, which is going to bring attention to the upcoming group he'll be in for one, being in Produce and two, actually debuting with the final group.

 

As you may know, Korean Entertainment companies literally focus on training their idols to either better up their already developed talents or to teach them other talents (MC, Singing, Rapping, Dancing, Modelling, etc), probably even both, before they debut so they can be well rounded artists. In the West, the companies don't care about that. Reason why most artists there usually do just one thing (Sing or rap) + maybe dancing, and they get to MC awards shows if they're entertaining or well known, even better if they're both. It is rare to find an artists in the west that were trained by their companies (I honestly have yet to see a case like that. I didn't even know One Direction members trained even though I was their fan from day one). Also, training and experience are quite different. Being performing arts student can sort of be considered training, but experience through shows, auditions, etc is honestly not training, at least not from my point of view.