AUSTIN POST 105 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Their oricon sale so far is underwhelming (9k), and I find it really odd since BP is one of the most popular korean GG in japan. In addition to that their japanese debut album total sale is decent (60-70k) and they have massive concert attendees (Though concert goers does not equate to albums) but atleast this proves that they have decent following. So what's the reason behind Blackpink Square Up disappointing sales on oricon?? Is it because most japanese fans know that they will release japanese version with much funnier lyrics? or because they would rather buy tickets and merch for their concert? or BLACKPINK only has 50 fans in Japan?? Discuss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momo's lamborghini 3,417 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Right now BP in Japan is where twice was with their debut year in Korea ,so they need to put more stuff in Japanese before they gain more fans there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rojen 4,657 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Probably because they are waiting for August 22nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiina 338 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 because this is just a Korean release, wait for Japanese Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traille 357 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 I think its funny BP sold less than 40k (for first week sales) for their Japan debut, but if I'm not mistaken, I heard they're already gonna do Dome Tour later. Meanwhile many other kpop acts sold lots more than them but haven't even performed at Tokyo Dome let alone Dome Tour. But then again, I'm not surprised, as there was rumor few years ago about YG applying for BB to do Nissan Stadium and making an appeal for it but was rejected because their fandom isn't even as big as TVXQ in Japan, and Nissan stadium authorities felt BB couldn't fill up the stadium because they dont have enough impact in Japan. YG delulu and overestimating their groups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiina 338 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 I think its funny BP sold less than 40k for their Japan debut, but if I'm not mistaken, I heard they're already gonna do Dome Tour later. Meanwhile many other kpop acts sold lots more than them but haven't even performed at Tokyo Dome let alone Dome Tour. But then again, I'm not surprised, as there was rumor few years ago about YG applying for BB to do Nissan Stadium and making an appeal for it but was rejected because their fandom isn't even as big as TVXQ in Japan, and Nissan stadium authorities felt BB couldn't fill up the stadium because they dont have enough impact in Japan. YG delulu and overestimating their groups. 77k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarfac�e 389 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 I think its funny BP sold less than 40k for their Japan debut, but if I'm not mistaken, I heard they're already gonna do Dome Tour later. Meanwhile many other kpop acts sold lots more than them but haven't even performed at Tokyo Dome let alone Dome Tour. But then again, I'm not surprised, as there was rumor few years ago about YG applying for BB to do Nissan Stadium and making an appeal for it but was rejected because their fandom isn't even as big as TVXQ in Japan, and Nissan stadium authorities felt BB couldn't fill up the stadium because they dont have enough impact in Japan. YG delulu and overestimating their groups. You didn't even get your facts right and you're only basing it on hearsay. You're the delulu moron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Namie-Knowles 7,115 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 BP actually sold 75K+ That is including the repack tho. Before repack it was like 67K+ I dont think its fair to give wrong numbers for BP to prove a point. I think its funny BP sold less than 40k for their Japan dbuet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WonderTwice 3,518 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 I think its funny BP sold less than 40k for their Japan debut, but if I'm not mistaken, I heard they're already gonna do Dome Tour later. Meanwhile many other kpop acts sold lots more than them but haven't even performed at Tokyo Dome let alone Dome Tour. But then again, I'm not surprised, as there was rumor few years ago about YG applying for BB to do Nissan Stadium and making an appeal for it but was rejected because their fandom isn't even as big as TVXQ in Japan, and Nissan stadium authorities felt BB couldn't fill up the stadium because they dont have enough impact in Japan. YG delulu and overestimating their groups. YG just throws his groups into the Japanese market for a quick cash grab BP barely has any songs let alone JPN songs and already doing an arena tour / a dome concert lol the reason why TWICE has public recognition and a bigger fandom in Japan is because they slowly started from the bottom and are working up if JYPE / Warner wanted to they could do TWICELAND concerts in bigger venues but they started off small and are working their way up .. anyways Tokyo Dome is most likely next year for TWICE ... also I wouldnt be surprised about the YG / Nissan Stadium being true lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
아니 천사 2,260 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Summer Nights sold around 55-60K on Oricon for KR release. Wake Me Up did around 350K or more. So about a a 1:7 ratio. BP did about 80K in Japan, that’s around 11K if we go by that ratio. So it’s about right. Who knew Math could do predictions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
konmeister 446 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 maybe their concept? you know jpn prefer happy, cute & sexy(?) more than girlcrush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clover. 10,048 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 we are talking about sqaure up, the korean album the japanese version will come out soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delight00 2,282 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 I think its funny BP sold less than 40k for their Japan debut, but if I'm not mistaken, I heard they're already gonna do Dome Tour later. Meanwhile many other kpop acts sold lots more than them but haven't even performed at Tokyo Dome let alone Dome Tour. But then again, I'm not surprised, as there was rumor few years ago about YG applying for BB to do Nissan Stadium and making an appeal for it but was rejected because their fandom isn't even as big as TVXQ in Japan, and Nissan stadium authorities felt BB couldn't fill up the stadium because they dont have enough impact in Japan. YG delulu and overestimating their groups. Whoever rejected bigbang appeal obviously underestimated them. Lmao even individual members of bigbang had sold out dome concerts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traille 357 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 BP actually sold 75K+ That is including the repack tho. Before repack it was like 67K+ I dont think its fair to give wrong numbers for BP to prove a point. 67k for one album (and I meant less than 40k for first week sales), still that's low for a Dome concert. Usually acts would get 100k before doing a Dome concert. YG overestimating their groups still stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Nox 452 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 67k for one album (and I meant less than 40k for first week sales), still that's low for a Dome concert. Usually acts would get 100k before doing a Dome concert. YG overestimating their groups still stands. They haven't even started their rounds in Japan yet you're acting like they've been doing it for so long. And their Japanese release hasn't dropped. You being a pressed idiot is what's going on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delight00 2,282 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Summer Nights sold around 55-60K on Oricon for KR release. Wake Me Up did around 350K or more. So about a a 1:7 ratio. BP did about 80K in Japan, that’s around 11K if we go by that ratio. So it’s about right. Who knew Math could do predictions. Is wake me up a japanese version of their old songs or original japanese songs? I think If YG stopped releasing japanese remake songs it will increase their korean album sale. And they should atleast release a new japanese single, so the public slowly recognize them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traille 357 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 You didn't even get your facts right and you're only basing it on hearsay. You're the delulu moronI meant less than 40k sales in the first week for their Japan debut release, moron. Usually acts would surpass at least 100k sales in the first week or overall for one album to be able to fill up Tokyo Dome/Dome Tours. Seventeen sold more than 100k in the first week of their Japan debut release yet they never had any big scale concerts yet in Japan. Twice sold double or triple the amount yet haven't done Dome yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyesea 433 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 why don't you make this thread about rv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
아니 천사 2,260 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Is wake me up a japanese version of their old songs or original japanese songs? I think If YG stopped releasing japanese remake songs it will increase their korean album sale. And they should atleast release a new japanese single, so the public slowly recognize them. It’s an original Japanese song. Unfortunately, I’m not sure BP will ever release an original Japanese song. It would definitely help their Japanese sales if they did though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikynik345 2,366 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Umm... what.. they are releasing their Japanese album August 22nd... why would an album full of Korean songs outsell a Japanese version... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Namie-Knowles 7,115 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 67k for one album (and I meant less than 40k for first week sales), still that's low for a Dome concert. Usually acts would get 100k before doing a Dome concert. YG overestimating their groups still stands. YG had a strong fanbase in JPN. They don't need to sell a shit ton in order to be able to fill up 50%+ of a Dome. BP is doing fine. They will be able to fill up 70% of the dome at the least. They don't need to release original content or anything of that nature. They aren't trying to pull a Kara/Twice and act like a domestic JPN act. YGE is in for the money. Thats just the facts. A YG act will be able to do good tours in JPN. They don't need to sell 1,000,000 before having a Dome Tour. BP is fine dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traille 357 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 YG had a strong fanbase in JPN. They don't need to sell a shit ton in order to be able to fill up 50%+ of a Dome. BP is doing fine. They will be able to fill up 70% of the dome at the least. They don't need to release original content or anything of that nature. They aren't trying to pull a Kara/Twice and act like a domestic JPN act. YGE is in for the money. Thats just the facts. A YG act will be able to do good tours in JPN. They don't need to sell 1,000,000 before having a Dome Tour. BP is fine dude. In that case they wont last long and wont have longevity. They'll just stay stagnant or decline one day like EXO due to that quick cash grab. This is the prime reason many kpop acts/Hallyu wave in the past fell. They should STFU from making up stuff abt BP's impact in Japan when its non-existent. That YG - BB -Nissan Stadium concert appeal shows how embarassing and delulu YG is for overestimating their groups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamhexx 1,103 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Those are pretty shitty numbers for their long awaited debut album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Namie-Knowles 7,115 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 In that case they wont last long and wont have longevity. They'll just stay stagnant or decline one day due to that quick cash grab. Who knows. That may or may not be the case. We just have to wait and see. Mind you BIGBANG hasn't release a JPN album with original content since like 2011 And you see how good they are still doing to this day? At the end of the day YG brand is strong among K-Pop fans in Japan. BP is going to do well regardless. YGE isn't aiming for maximum fans. YGE isn't aiming for longevity. YGE isn't aiming for high sales. YGE aiming for the quickest and easiest way to make as much money as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUSTIN POST 105 Posted August 2, 2018 Author Share Posted August 2, 2018 Umm... what.. they are releasing their Japanese album August 22nd... why would an album full of Korean songs outsell a Japanese version... Ofc I'm not expecting SU to outsell an album full of japanese songs. I'm just asking your opinions Your thoughts are exactly like mine. In my opinion releasing another version of the album hurts the sale of the korean album. Nothing wrong with that. But its a bad strategy on YGEX side. Stop releasing rehash songs and mv then release an original album with new japanese songs, just add the title track of their last korean album. This way they will sell more and gain more fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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