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Stupid People - Part 2. So if IQ is just a ‘stupid arbitrary system’ then what defines stupidity? Does stupidity exist?


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It’s not an arbitrary system. Some people are more intelligent than others and are more capable of reasoning, deducing, observing etc at a faster rate than others. People who claim IQ tests are arbitrary are also the same people who believe in participation trophies for losers. It’s just something they say to make themselves feel better about their inadequacies. Of course, it doesn’t mean people with low IQs can’t be productive in society, they can have other skills that do not require such brain capacities. Not everyone has to be Einstein but you don’t have to Einstein to be useful.

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It’s not an arbitrary system. Some people are more intelligent than others and are more capable of reasoning, deducing, observing etc at a faster rate than others. People who claim IQ tests are arbitrary are also the same people who believe in participation trophies for losers. It’s just something they say to make themselves feel better about their inadequacies. Of course, it doesn’t mean people with low IQs can’t be productive in society, they can have other skills that do not require such brain capacities. Not everyone has to be Einstein but you don’t have to Einstein to be useful.

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It’s not an arbitrary system. Some people are more intelligent than others and are more capable of reasoning, deducing, observing etc at a faster rate than others. People who claim IQ tests are arbitrary are also the same people who believe in participation trophies for losers. It’s just something they say to make themselves feel better about their inadequacies. Of course, it doesn’t mean people with low IQs can’t be productive in society, they can have other skills that do not require such brain capacities. Not everyone has to be Einstein but you don’t have to Einstein to be useful.

 

more like people who take IQ seriously  aren't actually educated about these tests lol 

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It’s not an arbitrary system. Some people are more intelligent than others and are more capable of reasoning, deducing, observing etc at a faster rate than others. People who claim IQ tests are arbitrary are also the same people who believe in participation trophies for losers. It’s just something they say to make themselves feel better about their inadequacies. Of course, it doesn’t mean people with low IQs can’t be productive in society, they can have other skills that do not require such brain capacities. Not everyone has to be Einstein but you don’t have to Einstein to be useful.

so you're assuming that a specific kind of intelligence applied in a specific setting with the assumption that you've had a specific upbringing is a universally applicable test for intelligence? jeeeesus christ. this post honestly has me reeling you guys are crazy

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more like people who take IQ seriously  aren't actually educated about these tests lol

 

I think ppl think IQ=how smart you are it’s more like how smart you COULD be using your logic and reasoning skills. Right? IQ means nothing if you don’t have work ethic. That’s why my opinion is, no matter how smart you are, figure out what you’re good at and work hard at it.

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I think ppl think IQ=how smart you are it’s more like how smart you COULD be using your logic and reasoning skills. Right? IQ means nothing if you don’t have work ethic. That’s why my opinion is, no matter how smart you are, figure out what you’re good at and work hard at it.

but the thought that you can sum up intelligence in all areas based on a few tests in very specific areas is ridiculous and frankly just really classist

even if it accurately measured level of education, education =/= intelligence

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so you're assuming that a specific kind of intelligence applied in a specific setting with the assumption that you've had a specific upbringing is a universally applicable test for intelligence? jeeeesus christ. this post honestly has me reeling you guys are crazy

Not universally applicable because I wouldn’t expect an IQ Test tailored for university students to be applicable to high schoolers but the results acquired from a test administered to people who are at the same level in their education are not arbitrary. Obviously, you also need to have some education at all in order to answer an IQ test and it is therefore inapplicable to illiterates or people with poor educational backgrounds. When people say IQ test are arbitrary, they use it even to dismiss tests administered to people within the same demographics just because some people don’t do too well in them. That’s just ridiculous.

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It’s not an arbitrary system. Some people are more intelligent than others and are more capable of reasoning, deducing, observing etc at a faster rate than others. People who claim IQ tests are arbitrary are also the same people who believe in participation trophies for losers. It’s just something they say to make themselves feel better about their inadequacies. Of course, it doesn’t mean people with low IQs can’t be productive in society, they can have other skills that do not require such brain capacities. Not everyone has to be Einstein but you don’t have to Einstein to be useful.

 

iq tests aren't accurate or objective, psych 101

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but the thought that you can sum up intelligence in all areas based on a few tests in very specific areas is ridiculous and frankly just really classist

even if it accurately measured level of education, education =/= intelligence

That’s what my social studies teacher said once, actually lol. That IQ was made to separate the rich and the poor. Tho idk I failed that class so don’t take it from me sis.

 

Also, I hate to sound like one of those dumbasses that puts life as their alma mater on Facebook, but... I know ppl who can never go anywhere despite their book skills bc oftentimes you learn smth by doing it. You could memorize every medical textbook, even in Russian but if you can’t preform open heart surgery what kind of surgeon are you anyway?

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Not universally applicable because I wouldn’t expect an IQ Test tailored for university students to be applicable to high schoolers but the results acquired from a test administered to people who are at the same level in their education are not arbitrary. Obviously, you also need to have some education at all in order to answer an IQ test and it is therefore inapplicable to illiterates or people with poor educational backgrounds. When people say IQ test are arbitrary, they use it even to dismiss tests administered to people within the same demographics just because some people don’t do too well in them. That’s just ridiculous.

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That’s what my social studies teacher said once, actually lol. That IQ was made to separate the rich and the poor. Tho idk I failed that class so don’t take it from me sis.

 

Also, I hate to sound like one of those dumbasses that puts life as their alma mater on Facebook, but... I know ppl who can never go anywhere despite their book skills bc oftentimes you learn smth by doing it. You could memorize every medical textbook, even in Russian but if you can’t preform open heart surgery what kind of surgeon are you anyway?

lol honestly in a lot of ways it was

 

i think what you're getting at is that one form of intelligence is being able to not just understand concepts, but be able to apply them externally

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lol honestly in a lot of ways it was

 

i think what you're getting at is that one form of intelligence is being able to not just understand concepts, but be able to apply them externally

She referenced the laning system and how poor kids get put in lower lanes. Tho tbch I don’t think that’s 100% true bc there were rich dumb ppl in my class. But also poorer kids who hadn’t unlocked their true potential yet.

 

Yeah exactly! Understanding isn’t just what makes you smart especially when a job needs more than just understanding your orders.

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My Take on the matter:

 

First of all there is a difference between 'smart' amd 'intelligent'.

 

Smart is the ability to learn and apply what is learned, intelligence is a natural ability to solve problems and decipher situations without being taught. Stupidity is the inability to learn and apply basic concepts, therefore it is not the opposite of intelligence, it is the opposite of smartness.

 

Since intelligence is a natural ability, upbringing and economic status are irrelevant to it's measurement, therefore the IQ test are not arbitrary. There are people on earth who are more intelligent than others, and it can be accurately measured.

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High IQ doesn’t mean being more smart. There are people who can observe, deduct etc. faster than others, but there are also people whit photographic memory who can know everything. There are also people who work hard to gain their knowledge and more ways ...

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My Take on the matter:

 

First of all there is a difference between 'smart' amd 'intelligent'.

 

Smart is the ability to learn and apply what is learned, intelligence is a natural ability to solve problems and decipher situations without being taught. Stupidity is the inability to learn and apply basic concepts, therefore it is not the opposite of intelligence, it is the opposite of smartness.

 

Since intelligence is a natural ability, upbringing and economic status are irrelevant to it's measurement, therefore the IQ test are not arbitrary. There are people on earth who are more intelligent than others, and it can be accurately measured.

You can practice for IQ tests though

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Thing is, IQ tests are specifically for people who think rationally, and I mean it in a way where they think in structured ways as opposed to someone who's musically talented for example. There's just different types of intelligence that applies to different skillsets. Rational intelligence is like, mathematics or logic or deductive reasoning while artistic intelligence is being able to create things from imagination or recognize certain patterns for example. It's just different and IQ tests doesn't really measure all forms of intelligence, just the rational one.

 

As for stupidity, my take on it is that it's the inability to learn something even after someone teaches them in a way that fits them best. Like, if you can't learn it even when it's tailored to you, you're stupid. There's just nothing else to say on the matter.

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You can practice for IQ tests though

 

I mean, you could try to familiarize yourself with the puzzles beforehand, maybe even memorize the puzzle resolutions, which would be cheating because someone else figured out the puzzles and you memorized their answers.

 

That doesn't negate the IQ test ability to measure intelligence, if someone has the integrity to take it without trying to manipulate the outcome, it can provide an accurate result.

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