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HKT Sashihara Rino response to media that she "bullied" Matsui Jurina


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Yesterday, fans from other members came, but because the time was short, I could not talk to you there! Whatever people say, I think that you should believe your oshi. (It's not an easy thing.) Even if rumors appear that make you suspect my character, it is fine if my fans believe in me

 

This tweet will erase soon and I just wanted to tell those fans, please do not make this net news

 

 

 

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She likely have to delete it because management is still trying to avoid attention so they won't stir Jurina's antis that have been cyberbullying her these past few weeks.

 

Sashi was the 1st to congrat Jurina and do lowkey damage control, it's disgusting her name is being drag into this mess as well

 

 

Sashihara_Rino_san:"Jurina, congratulations on reaching first place!

 

Although she’s awkward/inept, and too frank/straightforward (honest), so she may end up being misunderstood, she’s a hard worker who always keeps the (SKE48&48G) group in mind.

 

She’s always thinking only about the (SKE48&48G) group, but I do want her to relax&take it easy, and first of all, savor (the happiness of) her reaching first place with all the fans~👑

 

Do your best

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Just want to point out that since you bolded that part, that translation is wrong, she doesn't say "don't believe the net news"

 

She actually says,

this tweet will be erased soon, i just wanted to tell that fan (i believe the context here is the fan(s) who came to her and said something to her). Please do not make this internet news. ("netto news ni shinaide kudasai")

 

She's telling ppl not to make her tweet a big deal and flame up on the internet .

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Just want to point out that since you bolded that part, that translation is wrong, she doesn't say "don't believe the net news"

 

She actually says,

this tweet will be erased soon, i just wanted to tell that fan (i believe the context here is the fan(s) who came to her and said something to her). Please do not make this internet news. ("netto news ni shinaide kudasai")

 

She's telling ppl not to make her tweet a big deal and flame up on the internet .

Thanks, I corrected it.

Still, she wanted to clear the rumors that those articles are spreading so that's why she still said something. I don't want her to be wrongly accused as well. She's just worry about igniting the issue again

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the translation is a bit off imo, this tweet reads to me as her telling jurina's fans to trust jurina.

 

yesterday, other member (member's) fans came but there wasn't a lot of time so i couldn't talk to you, so here: it doesn't matter what other people say just trust your favourite/oshi (i know it's not easy)

 

whenever i had people spreading rumours about my character, i was still protected by my fans who trust in me.

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Tbh Sasshi is like one of the coolest members of 48G ever. I dont believe she would be petty enough to bully anyone over remark like this... The overreaction is so strong on all sides in this controversy.

 

And tbh what is with Jurina. How is her health? Its seriously bad she cannot continue promoting tbh because even though the crown can be pretty heavy, its still her to wear. And she waited so long for the moment she will get it. I just hope she isnt just hiding because of the controversy since it wouldnt be fair to all the fans who voted for her.

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Tbh Sasshi is like one of the coolest members of 48G ever. I dont believe she would be petty enough to bully anyone over remark like this... The overreaction is so strong on all sides in this controversy.

 

And tbh what is with Jurina. How is her health? Its seriously bad she cannot continue promoting tbh because even though the crown can be pretty heavy, its still her to wear. And she waited so long for the moment she will get it. I just hope she isnt just hiding because of the controversy since it wouldnt be fair to all the fans who voted for her.

And Jurina is too friendly to "bully" Sakura. She invited her to do SR together and even friend with "controversial" idols like Paruru, Komi, and Rika... even NGT members prob avoid Rika at this point....This whole mess is just a giant avalance of misunderstanding

 

She's fine right now. They said she wants to come back. I'm pretty sure the hiatus is mostly from management waiting for issue to be over. She won't take part in this single tho but there's good chance the parade in Nagoya is still on in Oct.

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I think people are reading into her tweet too much. It is not even clear that this "other member's fan" is actually Jurina's fan. Sashi frequently have other people's fan as well as other HKT's member's fan visit her. Frankly, I kinda think Sashi is too away from this issue to even bother to respond to random tabloids. I don't think Sashi has any need to say anything Jurina's related.

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I think people are reading into her tweet too much. It is not even clear that this "other member's fan" is actually Jurina's fan. Sashi frequently have other people's fan as well as other HKT's member's fan visit her. Frankly, I kinda think Sashi is too away from this issue to even bother to respond to random tabloids. I don't think Sashi has any need to say anything Jurina's related.

There would be no reason to delete her tweet if it wasn't related to the scandal. SKE fans asked management and confirmed there's a hush order in 48G right now to keep quiet about it. And it coincide with the timing of tabloid saying she scold Jurina while asking fans to believe in her? imstupid.png

IDG why you think she's removed from this? One of the party involved is HKT, she already lowkey did damage control in her congrat to Jurina by saying she can be "easily misunderstood" the same day election held so she have already said something related to her, and this is the biggest scandal involved 48G in yrs and she's part of this group.

 

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There would be no reason to delete her tweet if it wasn't related to the scandal. SKE fans asked management and confirmed there's a hush order in 48G right now to keep quiet about it. And it coincide with the timing of tabloid saying she scold Jurina while asking fans to believe in her? imstupid.png

IDG why you think she's removed from this? One of the party involved is HKT, she already lowkey did damage control in her congrat to Jurina by saying she can be "easily misunderstood" the same day election held so she have already said something related to her, and this is the biggest scandal involved 48G in yrs and she's part of this group.

Well, I think at the end of day, I just find it a bit inconclusive whether her tweet is related to Jurina. May be it is, like you said. But I also think there is no need to read too much into it. I know she have tried to do damage control on her tweet, her mail, and also on TV shows for Jurina. And I think she have done more than enough already. Ultimately, it's Jurina's shooting herself on the foot. How the mess will be resolved is between Jurina and the public's perception. So not much related to either Sakura or Sashi.

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Well, I think at the end of day, I just find it a bit inconclusive whether her tweet is related to Jurina. May be it is, like you said. But I also think there is no need to read too much into it. I know she have tried to do damage control on her tweet, her mail, and also on TV shows for Jurina. And I think she have done more than enough already. Ultimately, it's Jurina's shooting herself on the foot. How the mess will be resolved is between Jurina and the public's perception. So not much related to either Sakura or Sashi.

What a mess, and they are all doing what they need to do now to clean up the mess that has been created, because if there is bullying in the group, then the public perception of the group goes down the toilet and everyone in the group suffers, not just the bully. But really, you don't apologise for bullying someone, if you didn't bully someone in the first place.

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What a mess, and they are all doing what they need to do now to clean up the mess that has been created, because if there is bullying in the group, then the public perception of the group goes down the toilet and everyone in the group suffers, not just the bully. But really, you don't apologise for bullying someone, if you didn't bully someone in the first place.

the fuck are you talking about ?? Jurina didn't apologize to Sakura for "Bullying" her , she didn't say "i bullied sakura , sorry"

she only apologized for telling Sakura "Dance better" while they were on stage , this isn't considered bullying , just a advice from jurina as Sakura's Senior because she loves Sakura so much , she herself said that

 

people throw the word "bullying" so recklessly nowadays

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Well, I think at the end of day, I just find it a bit inconclusive whether her tweet is related to Jurina. May be it is, like you said. But I also think there is no need to read too much into it. I know she have tried to do damage control on her tweet, her mail, and also on TV shows for Jurina. And I think she have done more than enough already. Ultimately, it's Jurina's shooting herself on the foot. How the mess will be resolved is between Jurina and the public's perception. So not much related to either Sakura or Sashi.

The group image is at risk as a whole if the most popular member is involved. Sashi have been active more in that management role in recent yrs so ofc she would try to damage control, just like she made comments about Okinawa and Riripon last yr to calm fans down. You might not like it but she's not uninvolved

 

What a mess, and they are all doing what they need to do now to clean up the mess that has been created, because if there is bullying in the group, then the public perception of the group goes down the toilet and everyone in the group suffers, not just the bully. But really, you don't apologise for bullying someone, if you didn't bully someone in the first place.

All she did was told Sakura to dance better. That's not bully. SKE have a very strict seniority hiearchy and they train like spartan. Jurina is Sakura's senior so she likely snapped into the mindset after haven't eaten and slept for 3 days. That's all there is. Senior members scold others for messing up dance moves all the time like BNK said they got scold in rehearsals but Jurina defended them because they're still young

 

Everything just got exaggerated 100x time because people are stupid

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And as her fan, I wished she never said anything in that interview, or at least wait until she's more lucid bc she didn't express herself well but like I said this isn't just related to Jurina. The group image is at risk as a whole if the most popular member is involved. Sashi have been active more in that management role in recent yrs so ofc she would try to damage control

 

 

All she did was told Sakura to dance better. That's not bully. SKE have a very strict seniority hiearchy and they train like spartan. Jurina is Sakura's senior so she likely snapped into the mindset after haven't eaten and slept for 3 days. That's all there is. Senior members scold others for messing up dance moves all the time like BNK said they got scold in rehearsals but Jurina defended them because they're still young

 

Everything just got exaggerated 100x time because people are stupid

 

Please don't support bullies.

 

In her apology it was more than just "dance better". And you don't apologise, if you didn't do something wrong.

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Please don't support bullies.

In her apology it was more than just "dance better". And you don't apologise, if you didn't do something wrong.

 

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCdmQmxs9pQ

 

And Ogiyuka fan HS fanaccount backed up Sakura skipped perf for some reasons and Jurina/Ogiyuka have to sort out the situations. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's stupid people like you that make something like this bigger in the 1st place...It's clear there were lot of chaos  happened at the concert and fans should've been rational adults and let members settle issues on their own instead of whiteknight and made the situation like this 

 

If Jurina is a bully then there wouldn't be all these 48G members rushing to defend her in the 1st place. Sorry but people who actually know Jurina are saying completely different things from outsiders that think they know everything and I rather take the members words. 

 

https://onehallyu.com/topic/698786-current-and-ex-akb48g-all-showing-supports-for-matsui-jurina/

 

Btw Jurina watches Sakura SR and once asked her to do stream together...wow such bully imstupid.png

 

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The group image is at risk as a whole if the most popular member is involved. Sashi have been active more in that management role in recent yrs so ofc she would try to damage control, just like she made comments about Okinawa and Riripon last yr to calm fans down. You might not like it but she's not uninvolved

 

All she did was told Sakura to dance better. That's not bully. SKE have a very strict seniority hiearchy and they train like spartan. Jurina is Sakura's senior so she likely snapped into the mindset after haven't eaten and slept for 3 days. That's all there is. Senior members scold others for messing up dance moves all the time like BNK said they got scold in rehearsals but Jurina defended them because they're still young

 

Everything just got exaggerated 100x time because people are stupid

 

I think right now the issue has mostly died down. From the beginning, it's mostly just being discussed among AKB fans or people who pay attention to AKB group. What I mean by Sashi or others not involved is that their image not really negatively affected by it. She of course has stepped in when she can. The group seems to be doing just fine in Jurina's absence. Eventually, she'll be back. Provided that she handled herself well during her comeback, things are just going to be just as usual for the group. Suda Akari has been going on a lot of TV shows, as usual getting made fun of and getting bullied. But she's earning a lot of respect and warm regards. 

 

To the Japanese at least, your point about SKE being strict and not eaten or slept for 3 days is irrelevant. The Japanese fans understand the senior-junior relationships, yet they still find Jurina's behavior unacceptable on that day. Nor do they find not sleeping or eating for 3 days a valid excuse. Because isn't getting ready for a concert or event part of job? Who's telling her not to eat or sleep for 3 days? And she's certainly not more busy than other members. Ultimately, it's not what Jurina said or did not say to Sakura is the issue. The issue is a series of bizarre and what many sees as un-idol like behavior from Jurina, everything from collapsing during concert to her bizarre twitter liking spree after the event. 

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I think right now the issue has mostly died down. From the beginning, it's mostly just being discussed among AKB fans or people who pay attention to AKB group. What I mean by Sashi or others not involved is that their image not really negatively affected by it. She of course has stepped in when she can. The group seems to be doing just fine in Jurina's absence. Eventually, she'll be back. Provided that she handled herself well during her comeback, things are just going to be just as usual for the group. Suda Akari has been going on a lot of TV shows, as usual getting made fun of and getting bullied. But she's earning a lot of respect and warm regards.

 

To the Japanese at least, your point about SKE being strict and not eaten or slept for 3 days is irrelevant. The Japanese fans understand the senior-junior relationships, yet they still find Jurina's behavior unacceptable on that day. Nor do they find not sleeping or eating for 3 days a valid excuse. Because isn't getting ready for a concert or event part of job? Who's telling her not to eat or sleep for 3 days? And she's certainly not more busy than other members. Ultimately, it's not what Jurina said or did not say to Sakura is the issue. The issue is a series of bizarre and what many sees as un-idol like behavior from Jurina, everything from collapsing during concert to her bizarre twitter liking spree after the event.

Her not sleeping and eating is relevant. She was under tremendous amount of stress not for herself but also for SKE that people keep saying "is over." Same for Sakura who under stress and skipped perfs, that was the reason for Jurina and Ogiyuka acting weird during concert to cover for her. People act different when they're at their weakest physically and mentally, if people don't have sympathy or understanding then there's nothing you can do~ Un-idol... I'm sorry I'm not heartless enough to blame someone for collapsing~

 

She liked the anti tweets bc Jurina have always accepted criticisms~ She's humble like that

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Her not sleeping and eating is relevant. She was under tremendous amount of stress not for herself but also for SKE that people keep saying "is over." Same for Sakura who under stress and skipped perfs, that was the reason for Jurina and Ogiyuka acting weird during concert to cover for her. People act different when they're at their weakest physically and mentally, if people don't have sympathy or understanding then there's nothing you can do~ Un-idol... I'm sorry I'm not heartless enough to blame someone for collapsing~

 

She liked the anti tweets bc Jurina have always accepted criticisms~ She's humble like that

 

Dude, I think you're trying to defend Jurina so hard that you're a little bit making your own facts. Who is saying SKE is over before the election? It's not even remotely close to being over by any measure. I understand that if a person do not sleep or eat or is under stress, it'll make a person act weird. And I think most AKB group fans are very kind and understanding people. They overlook bad singing or bad dancing all the time. So collapsing on stage due to whatever physical problem by itself is certainly not something people are critical of. Although making a bad scene is kind of frowned upon. Plus, AKB fans know that this election event is high stress time for the idols, so they understand and expect that there is going to be a lot of emotional breakdowns or crying.

 

How is liking antis tweets a sign of humbleness? And liking tweets that criticize the event's MC or criticize Sakura's fans is an example of humbleness too? How is that idol-like? Jurina may have a lot of talents and charm points, but humbleness is definitely not one of them. And that has never been her trait. In fact, if you want to get down to it. One of the main reasons that Jurina is criticized for on that day is the lack of humbleness and being overwhelmingly self centered and self aggrandizing. Japanese idols aren't generally held in high expectation. Singing and dancing less than perfect or performance mistakes are just perfectly ok and acceptable. So getting such overwhelming negative reception is quite a feat in of itself. Even the breaking news of Nakai Rika's dating scandal on that day isn't viewed as negatively by comparison. 

 

By the time her tweeter liking spree is seen, most people's reaction turn from being critical of her to being worry about her. They realized that she's really not well, and asking why a manager isn't there to stop or rein in her? In any case, hopefully whatever problem she's having, she'll be able to recover during this break and get well soon. People eventually forgive and forget any issues. Actually, most have already moved on from it. 

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What a mess, and they are all doing what they need to do now to clean up the mess that has been created, because if there is bullying in the group, then the public perception of the group goes down the toilet and everyone in the group suffers, not just the bully. But really, you don't apologise for bullying someone, if you didn't bully someone in the first place.

Talk again if sakura finally apologize about her fatshaming attitude dude

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