masakio 6,815 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 like, I'm racking my brain trying to think of a situation where misandry is a thing and.. I've got nothing. I'm especially struggling to understand the presence of MRAs in societies that are highly patriarchal like South Korea, how can you possibly delude yourself into thinking men's rights is something that even needs fighting for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashfox 3,149 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 "mens right" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nsfw 5,496 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 inb4 the triggered men run to this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brittany 8,837 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Misandry is definitely a thing but it's not an issue. It's irrational behavior practiced by some feminists, but just that--it hardly effects society. It isn't harmful so much as it is annoying, but not really worth it for society to pay much attention to and view as being a serious problem. Kinda like reverse racism in the West. It exists, but isn't a big deal. Misandry is something problematic to the individual spewing it, but to society? Not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freya 7,202 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 It's not systematic nor is there a cultural phenomenon that belittles or subjugates men. There are a few circumstances in between such as child custody where women may get custody by default but that's all I can recall. There are people who just hate men and that's likely what people refer to when they talk about misandry. That hatred comes about from a lot of things but when it gets conflated with misogyny as another side of the same coin...it is annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purplegiraffe 215 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 "mens right" That gif kills me every time but yea it is a thing and it can be an issue. We should respect everyone no matter the sex. Sexism isn't cool kids... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masakio 6,815 Posted June 13, 2018 Author Share Posted June 13, 2018 inb4 the triggered men run to this thread we don't have any of those here. we do have a lot of girls on here who are anti-feminist and equate extremists with the movement in general. yikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Fructose Yoongi Syrup 7,149 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Misandry is definitely a thing but it's not an issue. It's irrational behavior practiced by some feminists, but just that--it hardly effects society. It isn't harmful so much as it is annoying, but not really worth it for the society to pay much attention to and view as being a serious problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAE ZONE 10,428 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 on an individual level? yes, it can happen. on an institutional/societal level? no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinkika 446 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Of course it's a thing. And you realise men have issues too right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gore 8,169 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 it's not a thing on an institutional level . and mras are complete shit. stupid assholes who only use male victims of abuse or rape to bash women or feminists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hwayoung 1,594 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 y wouldn't it be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamo 6,183 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Third and fourth wave feminism is misandry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MVSica 1,642 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 how can you possibly delude yourself into thinking men's rights is something that even needs fighting for? hmm how can you possibly delude yourself into thinking women's rights is something that even needs fighting for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charan 303 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Um, what? This is just like when people say you can't be racist against white people.. I'm a woman and a feminist btw, but I can definitely think of MANY cases where misandry is a thing. Men are expected to be "manly" and not show emotions..one of the reasons why the suicide rate is higher among males Men are often mocked or not believed when they are sexually abused or harassed A man can lose his job simply for being accused of sexual harassment when he may not have actually done it There is a lot of rape of males in prisons Etc etc etc Yes, even institutionally there can be and is misandry. In many countries men are required to do military service or can be drafted and women are not. Just because one group has bigotry against them that is more widespread or historic does not mean another group does not have bigotry against them. It doesn't mean the first group's problems are any less bad so I don't know why people are threatened by this enough to claim that it doesn't exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secondgrade 5,588 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 i mean men have plenty of issues too but everytime they want to talk about it they get mocked and framed as meninists so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brittany 8,837 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Um, what? This is just like when people say you can't be racist against white people.. I'm a woman and a feminist btw, but I can definitely think of MANY cases where misandry is a thing. Men are expected to be "manly" and not show emotions..one of the reasons why the suicide rate is higher among males Men are often mocked or not believed when they are sexually abused or harassed A man can lose his job simply for being accused of sexual harassment when he may not have actually done it There is a lot of rape of males in prisons Etc etc etc Yes, even institutionally there can be and is misandry. In many countries men are required to do military service or can be drafted and women are not. Just because one group has bigotry against them that is more widespread or historic does not mean another group does not have bigotry against them. It doesn't mean the first group's problems are any less bad so I don't know why people are threatened by this enough to claim that it doesn't exist. You don't have to hate men to believe in those though. Just because you're disadvantaged doesn't mean it was because people hated or had something against you. They just didn't think that your problems were a big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starsocks 7,986 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 It's not systematic nor is there a cultural phenomenon that belittles or subjugates men. There are a few circumstances in between such as child custody where women may get custody by default but that's all I can recall. There are people who just hate men and that's likely what people refer to when they talk about misandry. That hatred comes about from a lot of things but when it gets conflated with misogyny as another side of the same coin...it is annoying. Ë„ Pretty much hits the nail on the head Ë„ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charan 303 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 You don't have to hate men to believe in those though. Just because you're disadvantaged doesn't mean it was because people hated or had something against you. They just didn't think that your problems were a big deal. That's the same thing with a lot of sexism against women though. Many people don't actually hate or have something against women but can still think an issue involving sexism is not a big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anri Sonohara 1,706 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 YES misandry it is a thing, and YES there is institutionalized misandry, if you think there isn’t either you have not been paying attention or you are ignorant whether it be willful or not. It is very important to apply principal over bias for the betterment of humanity, otherwise you are just another shitty parallel of the system you claim to be against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaJetée 21,675 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Um, what? This is just like when people say you can't be racist against white people.. I'm a woman and a feminist btw, but I can definitely think of MANY cases where misandry is a thing. Men are expected to be "manly" and not show emotions..one of the reasons why the suicide rate is higher among males Men are often mocked or not believed when they are sexually abused or harassed A man can lose his job simply for being accused of sexual harassment when he may not have actually done it There is a lot of rape of males in prisons Etc etc etc Yes, even institutionally there can be and is misandry. In many countries men are required to do military service or can be drafted and women are not. Just because one group has bigotry against them that is more widespread or historic does not mean another group does not have bigotry against them. It doesn't mean the first group's problems are any less bad so I don't know why people are threatened by this enough to claim that it doesn't exist. ....You know all these things are a product of patriarchy right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charan 303 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 YES misandry it is a thing, and YES there is institutionalized misandry, if you think there isn’t either you have not been paying attention or you are ignorant whether it be willful or not. It is very important to apply principal over bias for the betterment of humanity, otherwise you are just another shitty parallel of the system you claim to be against. Thank you for actually having common sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charan 303 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 ....You know all these things are a product of patriarchy right? That doesn't mean it's okay to do against men who didn't contribute to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brittany 8,837 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 That's the same thing with a lot of sexism against women though. Many people don't actually hate or have something against women but can still think an issue involving sexism is not a big deal. That sexism didn't really involve misogyny then. The examples you gave were actually practical reasons given the conditions of the past, i.e there were many wars. It wouldn't really have done society good to have men be average in strength, not with an enemy tribe looking to steal your resources. The sexual harassment example you gave is because employers don't wan't any possible liabilities for someone who is easily replaceable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaJetée 21,675 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 That doesn't mean it's okay to do against men who didn't contribute to it. Literally not my point. I'm saying the things you're describing aren't a product of misandry, those things weren't born out of a hatred or prejudice against men but are a byproduct of patriarchal standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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