HRH Ayyu 4,199 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Reading about jyp and the bible studies and the cult reminded me of this english article about how a south korean cult where luring in members in uk by using a diffrent name, inviting Christians to bible study. it fits JYP so much, " "Hundreds of British churches, including some of the UK’s largest congregations, have been warned against possible infiltration by a group accused of being a “cult†promoting “control and deceptionâ€. The Church of England has issued a formal alert to almost 500 parishes in London about the activities of the group known as Parachristo. The organisation, a registered charity, runs Bible study courses at an anonymous industrial unit under a Botox clinic and a personal training company in London Docklands. But it is understood to be linked to a controversial South Korean group known as Shinchonji (SCJ) – or the “New Heaven and New Earth†church (NHNE) – whose founder Man-Hee Lee is referred to as God’s “advocateâ€. It is claimed that some of those who become involved gradually withdraw from friends and family and actively lie about their real lives. Some are said to have also given up their jobs or university courses. Many have made trips to Korea and Switzerland. Members of the group, which has links around the world, are alleged to have visited large evangelical congregations in London inviting worshippers to special study groups. One British man is said to have gone to work with the group full time, sleeping in bunks while telling family and friends he was busy pursuing a high-flying career in the City. Among churches openly warning parishioners is Holy Trinity Brompton, one of the UK’s biggest congregations, known as the home of the Alpha Course, the short introduction to Christianity which has been used by at least 15 million people. HTB, as it is commonly known, counts about 4,000 in the pews on a Sunday as well as having “planted†35 other congregations. It is regarded as effectively the spiritual home of the Archbishop of Canterbury, the Most Rev Justin Welby, who was a longstanding member before his own ministry. Parachristo was formally registered with the Charity Commission this summer as a religious organisation operating “throughout England†for the benefit of “mankindâ€. Its official aims are stated as advancing Christianity by running Bible classes to “strengthen the commitment of members of the religion†and “enlighten†others. The group lists a business unit near Canary Wharf in east London as its headquarters, while offering a telephone number which does not operate and a website address which has been “suspendedâ€. Those who attend its three-month course are not told initially about links with SCJ but the group strongly denies that this is deceptive. In a message to all clergy in London last month, the Diocese of London’s safeguarding team said there had been complaints about the group, adding “it has been alleged that they have links to a cultâ€. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/12/10/exclusive-churches-warned-deceptive-cult-linked-south-korea/ ********** tldr: One big tacic of cults in recruiting members is having these bible study, general christianty seminars. they know if they openly use their name alot of people wont turn up or be willing to listen. they have cut members in attendance too. LOL, i think this is what jyp was doing at bible study. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jawline 4,624 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 So JYP basically confirmed he's guilty? Holy shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lighterxx 12,204 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 good thing im muslim all i get is isis and i know cutting heads is BAD so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M0VH 9,985 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 For some reason, I'm surprised an user who has a title on OH would be posting about this. I would think you would stay away from this issue, but then again this is still your account and ya'll can't have dupes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceprince 2,268 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRH Ayyu 4,199 Posted May 2, 2018 Author Share Posted May 2, 2018 For some reason, I'm surprised an user who has a title on OH would be posting about this. I would think you would stay away from this issue, but then again this is still your account and ya'll can't have dupes. are you talking about me?? im allowed to have an opinion. edit: unlike most users i dont randomly bash, i present something and leave it up for discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockerchic88 9,477 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 For some reason, I'm surprised an user who has a title on OH would be posting about this. I would think you would stay away from this issue, but then again this is still your account and ya'll can't have dupes. lmao it's a big issue everyone wants to talk about it. It's not some silly fanwar thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero_Kpop 835 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 You know what is the difference between a sect and a religion? Time and reputation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damewon 500 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Its white paternalism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASS 7,209 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Well well well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OUO 3,660 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 According to wikipedia, the Salvation sect has members worldwide this is not far fetched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRH Ayyu 4,199 Posted May 2, 2018 Author Share Posted May 2, 2018 You know what is the difference between a sect and a religion? Time and reputation i use to study sociology and cults was a thing i studied (hence ehy i made this thread, i find it intresting), there is small difference. the main definition of cult is ‘“ a secretive group that brainwashes its members into engaging in obscene and harmful practices for the sake of a charismatic leader." the sect people are relating to jyp is the salvation sect, and their main belief is that " those who were once saved by God are completely detached from the sins they will ever commit in the future and guaranteed a path to heaven.[9]" basically once you have been saved by god it doesnt mater how many sins u commit after sinc eyou will go to heaven anyway. that is a very very dangerous and poisonus belief for a religion to have. and is why other Christian groups refer to them as a cult. the group has already had a mass suicide incident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter Bear 9,461 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 I'm grateful I have a strong mind when it comes to stuff like this, no one has ever been able to sway me. We had a Scientology centre next to our house for a short while and those creeps would constantly try to talk to me, give me leaflets etc etc etc And lmao I joined the Islamic society for like an hour at Uni but noped out when I realised how backward they were. I hope we can help the people taken in by these cults. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero_Kpop 835 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 the sect people are relating to jyp is the salvation sect, and their main belief is that " those who were once saved by God are completely detached from the sins they will ever commit in the future and guaranteed a path to heaven.[9]" basically once you have been saved by god it doesnt mater how many sins u commit after sinc eyou will go to heaven anyway. that is a very very dangerous and poisonus belief for a religion to have. and is why other Christian groups refer to them as a cult. the group has already had a mass suicide incident. It is indeed a flawed logic, i'm sure this ideology was crafted for people extremely fearful of death in mind and this resulted in this serious loophole. I just find it funny when religions try to do morals when they have exploited people for centuaries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gojo 3,258 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 It is indeed a flawed logic, i'm sure this ideology was crafted for people extremely fearful of death in mind and this resulted in this serious loophole. I just find it funny when religions try to do morals when they have exploited people for centuaries pretty sure it's bad people with intentions using "religion" as a front to exploit others by twisting words Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakuranism 904 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 also there's this https://askakorean.blogspot.co.id/2010/04/who-are-these-people-in-orange-t-shirts.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakuranism 904 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 and this http://beyondhallyu.com/k-pop/a-korean-cult-is-targeting-k-pop-fans-in-london-and-across-europe/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeachyKeys! 599 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 What the heck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bb4 25,058 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 good thing im muslim all i get is isis and i know cutting heads is BAD so well https://video.vice.com/en_us/video/inside-the-weird-world-of-an-islamic-39feminist39-cult/560c7b1d4fd5a3935ee01a40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skattered1831 158 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Here in Sydney, we are also facing a similar problem. Our Catholic parish is a small one so when another church group (albeit a christian one) offered to hire our church for couple of days a week we thought it'd be a good idea. lo and behold, our members are starting to shrink and we found out that this church has been poaching our members. Worse yet, we found out from a couple of members that those that have left have cut all ties with us and even with their own family members that are not of the same sect. We are currently in the process of cutting the arrangement. In passing, they look like regular people, just goes to show, you can never be too careful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beymommy 643 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 You know what is the difference between a sect and a religion? Time and reputation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nofave 2,009 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 good thing im muslim all i get is isis and i know cutting heads is BAD so LMAO IM CRYING me too sis me too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gj gf jfdhsvsb 1,245 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 The World Peace and Unification Sanctuary cult got in the news here for having a ceremony “blessing†AR-15s and wearing bullet crowns after the Parkland shooting. Korean cults are. A lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twicebabies 1,868 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 i use to study sociology and cults was a thing i studied (hence ehy i made this thread, i find it intresting), there is small difference. the main definition of cult is ‘“ a secretive group that brainwashes its members into engaging in obscene and harmful practices for the sake of a charismatic leader." the sect people are relating to jyp is the salvation sect, and their main belief is that " those who were once saved by God are completely detached from the sins they will ever commit in the future and guaranteed a path to heaven.[9]" basically once you have been saved by god it doesnt mater how many sins u commit after sinc eyou will go to heaven anyway. that is a very very dangerous and poisonus belief for a religion to have. and is why other Christian groups refer to them as a cult. the group has already had a mass suicide incident. here in my country there are around 2 christian Churches that, that no matter what they are saved and will go to Heaven. One of those churches believed that all of us that are not part of their religion are children of the devil so technically you can't call something a cult because they believe in that sh*t lol although I have to say its a very creepy way of thinking. If JYP is part of it then he is a piece of sh*t but so far the only evidence is a bunch of pictures doing a bible study and contradicting to what I said earlier in one of the threads, I just realized that its supposed to be innocent until proven guilty and not the other way around so they should just do a full investigation again since the 2014 one was apparently not enough so that we can sort the guilty from the non guilty and stop throwing names around bec I have a feeling that once names are gonna be thrown, its gonna get super messy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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