[OFFICIAL] HEART SIGNAL SEASON 2| 하트시그널 2: KOREAN REALITY DATING SHOW

[GameNadez]

I agree that GB has never looked at another person and that’s admirable so I totally get why people ship him.

 

LoL Ji-Hye from Season 1 also focus on 1 person which is Jang Chun..At the end ppl keep calling her fake. cuz she just a student n trying to go for lawyer guy lol.

[GRISHA - A Yoonbin Stan]

The only person I saw was hella uncomfortable and not happy was hyunwoo when youngjoo walked in with gyubin And was all laughs and smiles so..... I’m pretty sure hyunwoo was affected more than Youngjoo Lmao.

 

Girl is too good for him tbvh. He’s flip flopping and what he said to hyunjoo gives hyunjoo hope and it’s not fair to her (hyunjoo). So he should decide and stop going back and forth or atleast stop giving her hope after he went and ignored and avoided her for a long time and everyone in the house knew he’s into youngjoo

 

Hyunjoo and hyunwoo are just the opposite of compatible for me. Seeing hyunwoo with Daeun is more natural than hyunjoo.

 

I personally think if hyunwoo is set on hyunjoo then he wouldn’t have been so weird when youngjoo came back as well as I don’t see the point of him and youngjoo going out together to talk again like in the preview

 

Imo nothing is set in stone. Overanalyzing to find evidence won’t help. Three more days and we’ll find out. I think I’m going to try watching it live because if not then I’ll be tempted to find out who chose who and I won’t watch it

[oliveduyenduyen]

im tired of HW YJ couple, HW is much more happier with HJ, he better realizes that before it ends smh YJ was like an ideal type but shes lack of understanding and sympathy, HJ is on another hand, fun and loving 

[Swou]

I legit gave myself a headache this morning, haha.

 

If i'm right, I'm switching my profession from Photographer to Body Image Specialist & Consulting or something. I think I'm good at reading people. But I'm not quitting my day job until Friday. 

[BITE MY CLIT]

Rather than saying YJ lacks understanding and sympathy which she doesn't as you can tell by her relationship with everyone in the house - she is literally the go-to for advice for most of the persons in the house LOL. Their dating styles are just completely different imo and there is nothing wrong with that.. this is something that could work in real life but under the constrictions and rules of the signal house it just pushes them away - in the real world you don't have to see the person you're interested go out on dates with other people and wonder if he's into you or not etc etc. There is like no chance of anyone ever dating while on HS, everything would have to happen after the show ends anyways - they are basically gonna have to start afresh. Heart Signal is only good for making the connection and introduction and that's it. 

 

There is this other Korean dating program that I watch called Romance Package and their concept allows people to actually say hey i like you and that show has already made 3 couples lmao. Also that show only has the persons together for a week. Heart Signal's concept is not actually good for forming a relationship.

[ASS]

Rather than saying YJ lacks understanding and sympathy which she doesn't as you can tell by her relationship with everyone in the house - she is literally the go-to for advice for most of the persons in the house LOL. Their dating styles are just completely different imo and there is nothing wrong with that.. this is something that could work in real life but under the constrictions and rules of the signal house it just pushes them away - in the real world you don't have to see the person you're interested go out on dates with other people and wonder if he's into you or not etc etc. There is like no chance of anyone ever dating while on HS, everything would have to happen after the show ends anyways - they are basically gonna have to start afresh. Heart Signal is only good for making the connection and introduction and that's it.

 

There is this other Korean dating program that I watch called Romance Package and their concept allows people to actually say hey i like you and that show has already made 3 couples lmao. Also that show only has the persons together for a week. Heart Signal's concept is not actually good for forming a relationship.

I was planning on starting Romance Package after Heart Signal is done. Are there any eng subs I don't know about for it?

[BITE MY CLIT]

I was planning on starting Romance Package after Heart Signal is done. Are there any eng subs I don't know about for it?

Unfortunately there are no subs  my korean is good enough for me to understand the conversations though

[peachgloss]

Rather than saying YJ lacks understanding and sympathy which she doesn't as you can tell by her relationship with everyone in the house - she is literally the go-to for advice for most of the persons in the house LOL. Their dating styles are just completely different imo and there is nothing wrong with that.. this is something that could work in real life but under the constrictions and rules of the signal house it just pushes them away - in the real world you don't have to see the person you're interested go out on dates with other people and wonder if he's into you or not etc etc. There is like no chance of anyone ever dating while on HS, everything would have to happen after the show ends anyways - they are basically gonna have to start afresh. Heart Signal is only good for making the connection and introduction and that's it. 

 

There is this other Korean dating program that I watch called Romance Package and their concept allows people to actually say hey i like you and that show has already made 3 couples lmao. Also that show only has the persons together for a week. Heart Signal's concept is not actually good for forming a relationship.

 

I watched the pilot season of Romance Package (with Han Hyejin––I'm still so upset she had to leave and I miss her so so much) but now I'm catching up on the latest episodes and I don't like it nearly as much as Heart Signal, it's much more anticlimatic (which is the point, I know, because it's mostly speed dating) and I feel like deeper connections are formed in Heart Signal S1 and S2. I agree that the constrictions and rules are getting in the way of YJ/HW, but I'm not sure that they would do better in a Romance Package-like setting because you get to know the other person for only a week (?) and it's mostly just very staged, forced activities and events anyway. So I'm glad that they're on Heart Signal and not on some other show. 

[peachgloss]

Finally watched English Subs and I've changed my mind about the episode.  Warning, this is long. haha

 

HW & HJ's date is awkward, BUT, I feel it's a different kind of awkward than I thought when I didn't know what they were saying. It's more of a what's going on type of awkward.  They were both surprised they ended up together again. When she got in the car, she had a tangerine. But the next scene we saw, she was eating something else. So I really wish they had shown what they first talked about and not edited. Their car ride was 2 hours long each way, at least. 

HW: It's been a while...

HJ: On the first date we talked a lot all day ...

HW: I think we went too far that day...

Then they proceed to keep glancing at each other while driving thru the tunnel.

 

Why? I mean, it's not like he was engaged to anyone. It was the very beginning of the show. Could it be because he really thought he should end up with YJ since he said seen her before had decided it must be fate? Sounds to me like he was trying to control his feelings. 

 

Next scene - 

 

HW: Wait we're here? We're already here.

Considering it was a 2 hour car drive... haha I am assuming they had a pleasant ride.

 

In the car again:

 

HJ: Villages by the sea all look the same

HW: Who you come with is more important. I came with you.

HJ: Are you happy?

HW smiles and scene is cut.

 

Arriving at the restaurant: 

 

HW: Wait for me. Don't just leave me.

HJ. I had to run.

 

Again, little phrases that come out of his mouth naturally.

 

At the restaurant:

 

HW asks HJ if she needs help tying her apron. They both giggle. SOMEONE, not sure who, says "What's wrong with me?".

 

Afterwards, I honestly feel like they both feel something when they look at each other and that's why they kept looking away.

 

HW: A lot of unexpected things keep happening in the house.

HJ changes the subject

HW: I didn't expect to see you today

HJ: At the moment I saw your head ..I was contemplating a lot. But Sokcho was the only choice I had. 

HW: Who you go with?

HJ: Yes, that's why I hesitated. It was obvious you know. 

HW: By the way..

HJ: Let's just not think about that.

 

My interpretation of this. HJ really didn't want to go on this date with HW. She knew he was determined to pursue YJ. Maybe she was worried in the beginning of the date that HW might think she manipulated the vote to go on the date with him, and that's why she chose to explain/clarify that she had no choice. I'm not sure what HW was about to say before she said hey, let's just let it go. This date will be especially appealing to HW because there is no drama. It's easy, HJ doesn't expect anything of him. 

 

Next scene outside: 

 

HW: We should have gone to the end. (Pointing to the other side of boardwalk)

HJ: Too bad, let's come back later.

 

I take this to mean he wanted to prolong their walk. When you don't want to be with someone you make it as short as possible.

 

******skipping YJ and GB date********

******DG and JM date, I felt she was inlove, he was basically acting like a tour guide. I think he sent her a text as a courtesy, especially since she got sick worrying about how the date would go.***********

 

Back to HW and HJ.

 

HW: Even the traffic lights aren't on our side 

HJ: We're not going home after riding the cable car, are we?

HW: We will ride it and go to Seoul with it. You don't want to go? What's wrong. Do you want to go home now?

HJ: No, I don't, that's what I meant.

HW: You could say you don't want to go home so fast.

HJ: That's why I said, we're not going home are we?

HW: I thought you want to go home fast.

 

This is pretty clear...they both want the date to continue. He even got worried she wanted to go back home. But even this "misunderstanding" didn't turn into a big thing like it would have with YJ. They cleared it up in like half a second. 

 

I'm not even going to discuss them running with HW pulling her sleeve. But I think it didn't leave them indifferent.

 

In the car:

 

HW: What was your most unforgettable memory?

HJ: Just now.

HW: Just now?

HJ: Yes. From the moment we started to run, until we reached the top of the mountain. 

 

At the restaurant:

 

HW: What do you think about how things will be when we get home?

HJ: How I think they will be?...nervous laugh with HW staring at her. 

HJ: What about you?

HW: Me? Honestly I didn't expect to see you. I'm being honest. It wasn't easy while putting two names on my ticket...I was actually thinking YJ would come to the place. And I wanted to be nice to her. Then I went to sleep and I woke up and... If you're destined to meet with the person, you will end up with that person. 

HJ: Ok...shall we go see the night view?

HW: Did I give you a vague answer again?

HJ: No, it was a great answer.

HW: really? I don't even know what I said.

 

OK. So I see where some people thought he meant he would end up with YJ. But nope, I think he's talking about HJ. And I think just the fact he can easily have a conversation with her like this without hurt feelings or drama, is another proof they really are well suited for each other.  Also, you can tell he is worried about what is waiting for them back home. He is worried he enjoyed himself and now he has to "face the music". He also seems worried that HJ might have misunderstood his answer, since he is used to YJ misunderstanding. Hence why he asked if he gave a vague answer. He must be really surprised when HJ said no, that the answer was a great one. 

 

Then we have a whole 2 hour car ride conversation missing.

 

Back at home... you all know what happened. But I think it only helped reinforce to HW that YJ is not the one. In the preview for next week it looks like they're talking things out, but I think they're actually saying goodbye to each other. Like, this isn't going to work type of talk.

 

Voila. If you read the whole thing, congratulations, you will get a cookie. lol 

 

My prediction: HW and HJ end up together. 

 

I'm a pretty lowkey YJ/HW shipper, but I still think I'm only attached to them because I get attached to things super easily. I'm not completely sold on YJ/HW yet as a couple (even though I adore both of them separately) and I'm keeping my mind open but I was looking for posts on here that discussed HJ/HW because something about their date felt right for me. They seemed natural and comfortable with each other, and HW opened up pretty easily to HJ (not sure if that's a romantic thing, or just a 'I'm-comfortable-with-you' kind of thing, because HJ is definitely the person in the relationship who tries to make the other person comfortable, at all costs.) From personal experience, I don't think it's great to take things too fast at the beginning––maybe HW-YJ are just too in love with each other, because they're part of this whirlwind rollercoaster romance that's perfect for TV ratings, but maybe not so perfect for real life. I feel like HW-HJ understand each other very well, even if it's just in a platonic way, and I actually have a lot of things I want to say about them, but I can't find the right ways to express it. Also: are you Korean? Your translation was perfect.

[Swou]

I'm a pretty lowkey YJ/HW shipper, but I still think I'm only attached to them because I get attached to things super easily. I'm not completely sold on YJ/HW yet as a couple (even though I adore both of them separately) and I'm keeping my mind open but I was looking for posts on here that discussed HJ/HW because something about their date felt right for me. They seemed natural and comfortable with each other, and HW opened up pretty easily to HJ (not sure if that's a romantic thing, or just a 'I'm-comfortable-with-you' kind of thing, because HJ is definitely the person in the relationship who tries to make the other person comfortable, at all costs.) From personal experience, I don't think it's great to take things too fast at the beginning––maybe HW-YJ are just too in love with each other, because they're part of this whirlwind rollercoaster romance that's perfect for TV ratings, but maybe not so perfect for real life. I feel like HW-HJ understand each other very well, even if it's just in a platonic way, and I actually have a lot of things I want to say about them, but I can't find the right ways to express it. Also: are you Korean? Your translation was perfect.

 

Haha, no, I'm an American. I just copied the English Subs ;)  

When I first watched HS, I was on team HW/YJ especially after he took care of her at his restaurant. When HJ ended up on a date with him, I was annoyed....until I noticed how well they got along and their chemistry. 

[BITE MY CLIT]

I watched the pilot season of Romance Package (with Han Hyejin––I'm still so upset she had to leave and I miss her so so much) but now I'm catching up on the latest episodes and I don't like it nearly as much as Heart Signal, it's much more anticlimatic (which is the point, I know, because it's mostly speed dating) and I feel like deeper connections are formed in Heart Signal S1 and S2. I agree that the constrictions and rules are getting in the way of YJ/HW, but I'm not sure that they would do better in a Romance Package-like setting because you get to know the other person for only a week (?) and it's mostly just very staged, forced activities and events anyway. So I'm glad that they're on Heart Signal and not on some other show. 

It feels more scripted to you maybe, i just think its more chill lol and this show has actual results and the people on the show remain friends even if they met each other only for that short while (yes i insta stalk whenever i watch an ep lol). And this show actually forms relationships HS can't relate 

[nguyen412]

As i heard from twitter that PD still not decided yet of special eps. They consider watchers's reaction and then, they will issue formal notice .

 

 I realized HW tried to avoid HY because he's afraid to have feeling wtih HJ , not  afraid YJ's misunderstanding only. Other guys always make cleared the name but why he not did like that . Did you watched ep 12 : when HJ mentioned " come back home ..." and his replies . I feel the loss in his voice and eyes . He want to have a stable connection with YJ but he not surely to give up his feeling  to HJ. I agreed with you that  everyone have different communication style but whether his love not strong to show up ? And , salad incident is example . I think that time , his feeling must be surely and this is not vague  statement. He should continue do. GB is listener and he seems know YJ hahah at least, he can find out what she will choose . I not impressed by GB from first time until before ep 12 . I feel YJ feel the same . ANW, we need to wait their decision and i'm ready

I agree that GB has never looked at another person and that’s admirable so I totally get why people ship him. But I never get when people say HW hasn’t been clear with his emotions. He’s opened up so many times about it to her and the group without saying her name; communication styles are different for everyone so I accept that she didn’t always hear it as it was intended. GB definitely has the record on initiating things withYJ but it’s not like HW’s ever initiated dates with HJ either. Their first date was a mix&match, everybody except DG had an initial interest in their Christmas date because it was the first one. In ep 11, HJ even said herself that HW had been avoiding her since then so how is that being forward to her?
Anywhoo I’m worried about where HW’s head is at now, after witnessing YJxGB’s interaction. Strange that YJ took issue with HW choosing HJ 2nd but didn’t mind that GB did the same. Yes HWxHJ have history (that was unavoidable) and I still don’t get why HW chose HJ but it’s bizarre that YJ says in the preview she thought HW purposefully chose the place she wanted to go to avoid her. That’s an odd interpretation but things must have felt that way in the moment for her. Colour me confused â€â™€

Friday can’t come soon enough - I can’t bare to watch it live so I’ll rely on the Twitter hashtag.

Also, have you heard about the potential for no reunion special?? (Ahh I need one ) The producers are not sure because the cast said they are uncomfortable with the hate comments they’ve been subjected to over last few weeks. So sad that some viewers attack people who are entitled to their own flaws, emotions and decisions and for choices made months ago at that.

[Cheesetok]

Finally watched ep 12. Everything is just so confusing.

 

I've been telling my friends this, that YJ and HW in my opinion have strong chemistry, whenever they're together, it feels like the feelings they have to each other are very intense but at the same time, it's fragile. I'm not sure the reason why, maybe it's because their personalities don't quite match, maybe because of something else that I can't specifically point out. I just sense it, they're intense but easily break.

 

I'm not entirely shipping any couples in this programs, hearts are complicated but I really like all YJ and GB's dates

[nguyen412]

You described exactly what i'm thinking. Good luck to HJ & HW. And, my little girl ,my favorite girl: YJ will have another chance , to who deserved her love , like GB if she really like him )) Or, she can go end alone and its ok. I will support her unconditional . I ever be a shipper of HW & YJ but now, i feel lucky if YJ can escape from HW. It might not a happy time and she would sad , but i can not see her with HW until he determine his feeling. I dont like HJ and even hate her giggle in every-time ,everywhere but that's not fair to her if HW like her as well.

 

So much word" But" haha  

Finally watched English Subs and I've changed my mind about the episode.  Warning, this is long. haha

 

HW & HJ's date is awkward, BUT, I feel it's a different kind of awkward than I thought when I didn't know what they were saying. It's more of a what's going on type of awkward.  They were both surprised they ended up together again. When she got in the car, she had a tangerine. But the next scene we saw, she was eating something else. So I really wish they had shown what they first talked about and not edited. Their car ride was 2 hours long each way, at least. 

HW: It's been a while...

HJ: On the first date we talked a lot all day ...

HW: I think we went too far that day...

Then they proceed to keep glancing at each other while driving thru the tunnel.

 

Why? I mean, it's not like he was engaged to anyone. It was the very beginning of the show. Could it be because he really thought he should end up with YJ since he said seen her before had decided it must be fate? Sounds to me like he was trying to control his feelings. 

 

Next scene - 

 

HW: Wait we're here? We're already here.

Considering it was a 2 hour car drive... haha I am assuming they had a pleasant ride.

 

In the car again:

 

HJ: Villages by the sea all look the same

HW: Who you come with is more important. I came with you.

HJ: Are you happy?

HW smiles and scene is cut.

 

Arriving at the restaurant: 

 

HW: Wait for me. Don't just leave me.

HJ. I had to run.

 

Again, little phrases that come out of his mouth naturally.

 

At the restaurant:

 

HW asks HJ if she needs help tying her apron. They both giggle. SOMEONE, not sure who, says "What's wrong with me?".

 

Afterwards, I honestly feel like they both feel something when they look at each other and that's why they kept looking away.

 

HW: A lot of unexpected things keep happening in the house.

HJ changes the subject

HW: I didn't expect to see you today

HJ: At the moment I saw your head ..I was contemplating a lot. But Sokcho was the only choice I had. 

HW: Who you go with?

HJ: Yes, that's why I hesitated. It was obvious you know. 

HW: By the way..

HJ: Let's just not think about that.

 

My interpretation of this. HJ really didn't want to go on this date with HW. She knew he was determined to pursue YJ. Maybe she was worried in the beginning of the date that HW might think she manipulated the vote to go on the date with him, and that's why she chose to explain/clarify that she had no choice. I'm not sure what HW was about to say before she said hey, let's just let it go. This date will be especially appealing to HW because there is no drama. It's easy, HJ doesn't expect anything of him. 

 

Next scene outside: 

 

HW: We should have gone to the end. (Pointing to the other side of boardwalk)

HJ: Too bad, let's come back later.

 

I take this to mean he wanted to prolong their walk. When you don't want to be with someone you make it as short as possible.

 

******skipping YJ and GB date********

******DG and JM date, I felt she was inlove, he was basically acting like a tour guide. I think he sent her a text as a courtesy, especially since she got sick worrying about how the date would go.***********

 

Back to HW and HJ.

 

HW: Even the traffic lights aren't on our side 

HJ: We're not going home after riding the cable car, are we?

HW: We will ride it and go to Seoul with it. You don't want to go? What's wrong. Do you want to go home now?

HJ: No, I don't, that's what I meant.

HW: You could say you don't want to go home so fast.

HJ: That's why I said, we're not going home are we?

HW: I thought you want to go home fast.

 

This is pretty clear...they both want the date to continue. He even got worried she wanted to go back home. But even this "misunderstanding" didn't turn into a big thing like it would have with YJ. They cleared it up in like half a second. 

 

I'm not even going to discuss them running with HW pulling her sleeve. But I think it didn't leave them indifferent.

 

In the car:

 

HW: What was your most unforgettable memory?

HJ: Just now.

HW: Just now?

HJ: Yes. From the moment we started to run, until we reached the top of the mountain. 

 

At the restaurant:

 

HW: What do you think about how things will be when we get home?

HJ: How I think they will be?...nervous laugh with HW staring at her. 

HJ: What about you?

HW: Me? Honestly I didn't expect to see you. I'm being honest. It wasn't easy while putting two names on my ticket...I was actually thinking YJ would come to the place. And I wanted to be nice to her. Then I went to sleep and I woke up and... If you're destined to meet with the person, you will end up with that person. 

HJ: Ok...shall we go see the night view?

HW: Did I give you a vague answer again?

HJ: No, it was a great answer.

HW: really? I don't even know what I said.

 

OK. So I see where some people thought he meant he would end up with YJ. But nope, I think he's talking about HJ. And I think just the fact he can easily have a conversation with her like this without hurt feelings or drama, is another proof they really are well suited for each other.  Also, you can tell he is worried about what is waiting for them back home. He is worried he enjoyed himself and now he has to "face the music". He also seems worried that HJ might have misunderstood his answer, since he is used to YJ misunderstanding. Hence why he asked if he gave a vague answer. He must be really surprised when HJ said no, that the answer was a great one. 

 

Then we have a whole 2 hour car ride conversation missing.

 

Back at home... you all know what happened. But I think it only helped reinforce to HW that YJ is not the one. In the preview for next week it looks like they're talking things out, but I think they're actually saying goodbye to each other. Like, this isn't going to work type of talk.

 

Voila. If you read the whole thing, congratulations, you will get a cookie. lol 

 

My prediction: HW and HJ end up together. 

[nguyen412]

Your comment is funny  If you are YJ and you would sympathy to see your boy friend look another girl , treat as a puppy, or as a cute young sister  ...? YJ knew HJ like HW .Besides, all citizens in HS house feel HW's feeling not clearly and they told that he not determined yet. I agreed an idea : HW better choose HJ . HW not deserves to YJ's love and thats all

im tired of HW YJ couple, HW is much more happier with HJ, he better realizes that before it ends smh YJ was like an ideal type but shes lack of understanding and sympathy, HJ is on another hand, fun and loving 

[Lancelot]

Your comment is funny If you are YJ and you would sympathy to see your boy friend look another girl , treat as a puppy, or as a cute young sister ...? YJ knew HJ like HW .Besides, all citizens in HS house feel HW's feeling not clearly and they told that he not determined yet. I agreed an idea : HW better choose HJ . HW not deserves to YJ's love and thats all

N who are you 2 say that HW doesn't deserve YJ, know what funny your sentiment above also apply in YJ case.

 

"If you are HW and you would sympathy to see your boy@girl friend look another girl , treat as a puppy, or as a cute young sister@brother ...? HW knew GB like YJ."

 

Watch this show n know that this people are adult n capable of clean up their own mess also able 2 choose the one they like.

Edited June 14, 2018 by Lancelot

[mcatcher]

I'm reposting my thoughts on Reddit forum here to see if anyone's interested enough to discuss with me about episode 12, one that I think was rather heavily edited to create drama on the expense of the cast. 

 

HW is not perfect, as much as the show tried to paint him to be. He's charming and attractive, yes, but no where close to perfect. He can be socially awkward, timid, a bit intimidating, dense, silly, and the list goes on. But as a guy in his 30s, I believe he's been through a lot of hardships, judging from his previous careers as well as his education background, so we have to give him the benefit of the doubt when it comes to romance. He's nowhere near indecisive if you ask me. He might be nervous and too self conscious with words but definitely not indecisive. He's been vocalizing about what he wants in a relationship (not looking for short term flings), in a romantic partner (someone whose lifestyle matches his), short term goal (wanting the show to end in order to date the one he likes freely on his own term) and long term objective (wanting to get married soon). He seems certain about what he's doing with his restaurant (a small resto with home-made recipe and menu, changing according to his mood of the day). He drives a matt-black Rover, wears expensive watch, dresses stylish and has a delicate taste in lifestyle in general. To be completely honest, he's living the life. Even the panelists commented about this and said the exact words if I'm not wrong.

Even though I was initial drawn by his seemingly dark and manly aura, but now that I had enough time to think about it, I prefer YJ to go with someone else, DG would be a better fit. Simple because a man like HW can be hard to handle, if not stressful, and is required of a lot of dating experience to figure him out. YJ is just fresh out of uni and might not have much dating history regarding older men, and therefore lack the said experience, I believe, so there goes her risk. But in all honesty, if they decide to stay together, she can learn to let go of her ego  and insecurities (she has somewhat already done that during her conversation with friend in the cafe) by communicating with him and their relationship can actually go on for a very long time if they want it to. 

I think HW and YJ got the most hate in episode 12 (maybe I'm wrong, or maybe they just get bashed equally each episode) because of the way the panelists kept on brainwashing us. When it was DG/JM date, they kept their excitement to the minimum and brushed off any spark/clicks between DG and JM as much as they can, by either saying nothing at all about their cute moments or insinuating how sorry the situation was for JM because DG just couldn't like JM back. They simple say DG and JM made the most out of the awkward date because DG always has HJ in the back of his mind. However, during the second, even more awkward date, HW/HJ, they kept on insisting there was sparks/feelings between the two when all I could see was the painful disappointment from HW (btw, HW could've played it cool there but instead he just couldn't hide his disappointment and uneasiness, not very manly of him tbh), and HJ's embarrassed face whenever he brought up YJ. They, too, tried to make the most out of this unpleasant and tricky date by eventually letting go and enjoying it, yet the panelists claimed it was because those two secretly and unknowingly realized they still liked each other.

I'm just baffled. I mean, what in the world? The two scenarios are almost alike when the guys are not completely happy, but somewhat have to be okay with their date (JM showed up instead of HJ, HJ showed up instead of YJ) (because at the end of the day they have to be a gentleman on the show and not appear to be disgruntle about it). But the ways the panelists approached about those two situations were completely different. I don't understand their motives, but they somehow successfully brainwashed most viewers' minds into thinking that HW had other feelings for HJ while DG absolutely didn't have anything for JM. Despite the fact that DG were never vocal about his feelings for HJ (everyone knows it does not equally mean him admitting it) and HW basically showed his affections for YJ and admitted it to everyone in the house at every chance he got, just not directly to the person involved (aka. YJ, because of the show's rules).

My point is, the panelists are at fault in this episode for confusing viewers' minds. Maybe they wanted to create drama/twists for the show, or they were just being kind and prepared out hearts for the 180 degree change of hearts tomorrow. We shall see. 

Oh tomorrow, please come faster, or maybe don't come at all.

Cheers. 

[Swou]

I'm reposting my thoughts on Reddit forum here to see if anyone's interested enough to discuss with me about episode 12, one that I think was rather heavily edited to create drama on the expense of the cast. 

 

HW is not perfect, as much as the show tried to paint him to be. He's charming and attractive, yes, but no where close to perfect. He can be socially awkward, timid, a bit intimidating, dense, silly, and the list goes on. But as a guy in his 30s, I believe he's been through a lot of hardships, judging from his previous careers as well as his education background, so we have to give him the benefit of the doubt when it comes to romance. He's nowhere near indecisive if you ask me. He might be nervous and too self conscious with words but definitely not indecisive. He's been vocalizing about what he wants in a relationship (not looking for short term flings), in a romantic partner (someone whose lifestyle matches his), short term goal (wanting the show to end in order to date the one he likes freely on his own term) and long term objective (wanting to get married soon). He seems certain about what he's doing with his restaurant (a small resto with home-made recipe and menu, changing according to his mood of the day). He drives a matt-black Rover, wears expensive watch, dresses stylish and has a delicate taste in lifestyle in general. To be completely honest, he's living the life. Even the panelists commented about this and said the exact words if I'm not wrong.

Even though I was initial drawn by his seemingly dark and manly aura, but now that I had enough time to think about it, I prefer YJ to go with someone else, DG would be a better fit. Simple because a man like HW can be hard to handle, if not stressful, and is required of a lot of dating experience to figure him out. YJ is just fresh out of uni and might not have much dating history regarding older men, and therefore lack the said experience, I believe, so there goes her risk. But in all honesty, if they decide to stay together, she can learn to let go of her ego  and insecurities (she has somewhat already done that during her conversation with friend in the cafe) by communicating with him and their relationship can actually go on for a very long time if they want it to. 

I think HW and YJ got the most hate in episode 12 (maybe I'm wrong, or maybe they just get bashed equally each episode) because of the way the panelists kept on brainwashing us. When it was DG/JM date, they kept their excitement to the minimum and brushed off any spark/clicks between DG and JM as much as they can, by either saying nothing at all about their cute moments or insinuating how sorry the situation was for JM because DG just couldn't like JM back. They simple say DG and JM made the most out of the awkward date because DG always has HJ in the back of his mind. However, during the second, even more awkward date, HW/HJ, they kept on insisting there was sparks/feelings between the two when all I could see was the painful disappointment from HW (btw, HW could've played it cool there but instead he just couldn't hide his disappointment and uneasiness, not very manly of him tbh), and HJ's embarrassed face whenever he brought up YJ. They, too, tried to make the most out of this unpleasant and tricky date by eventually letting go and enjoying it, yet the panelists claimed it was because those two secretly and unknowingly realized they still liked each other.

I'm just baffled. I mean, what in the world? The two scenarios are almost alike when the guys are not completely happy, but somewhat have to be okay with their date (JM showed up instead of HJ, HJ showed up instead of YJ) (because at the end of the day they have to be a gentleman on the show and not appear to be disgruntle about it). But the ways the panelists approached about those two situations were completely different. I don't understand their motives, but they somehow successfully brainwashed most viewers' minds into thinking that HW had other feelings for HJ while DG absolutely didn't have anything for JM. Despite the fact that DG were never vocal about his feelings for HJ (everyone knows it does not equally mean him admitting it) and HW basically showed his affections for YJ and admitted it to everyone in the house at every chance he got, just not directly to the person involved (aka. YJ, because of the show's rules).

My point is, the panelists are at fault in this episode for confusing viewers' minds. Maybe they wanted to create drama/twists for the show, or they were just being kind and prepared out hearts for the 180 degree change of hearts tomorrow. We shall see. 

Oh tomorrow, please come faster, or maybe don't come at all.

Cheers. 

 

Don't agree.

My thoughts on HW/HJ are solely based on words coming out of their own mouths. I personally don't pay attention to what the panel says.  The show can be edited to try to lead/mislead us, of course, but you can't force someone to say something they don't want. 

[mcatcher]

Don't agree.

My thoughts on HW/HJ are solely based on words coming out of their own mouths. I personally don't pay attention to what the panel says.  The show can be edited to try to lead/mislead us, of course, but you can't force someone to say something they don't want. 

 

Ok, I respect your opinion. I, however, did not try to say everyone was brainwashed, and certainly did not try to offend you. I would actually like for you to elaborate more on your saying "can't force someone to say something they don't want". What does it mean, and to whom it applies to, but it seems a bit hostile the way you replied to me, no? Just me then. 

Happy waiting for tomorrow. Cheers. 

[oliveduyenduyen]

Your comment is funny  If you are YJ and you would sympathy to see your boy friend look another girl , treat as a puppy, or as a cute young sister  ...? YJ knew HJ like HW .Besides, all citizens in HS house feel HW's feeling not clearly and they told that he not determined yet. I agreed an idea : HW better choose HJ . HW not deserves to YJ's love and thats all

Well, the fact that all the guys chose HJ for their dates proves that people like her better. Everything you see is what they want you to see. Im not hating on YJ but her relationship with HW was very tensed. We can not debate whats right and whats wrong in love, you are absolutely acting like a crazy fangirl of YJ lol

[Swou]

Ok, I respect your opinion. I, however, did not try to say everyone was brainwashed, and certainly did not try to offend you. I would actually like for you to elaborate more on your saying "can't force someone to say something they don't want". What does it mean, and to whom it applies to, but it seems a bit hostile the way you replied to me, no? Just me then. 

Happy waiting for tomorrow. Cheers. 

I think you misunderstood.

"Can't force someone to say something they don't want" applies to the contestants on the show. I based my opinion on the words HJ and HW said to each other. 

[GRISHA - A Yoonbin Stan]

Well, the fact that all the guys chose HJ for their dates proves that people like her better. Everything you see is what they want you to see. Im not hating on YJ but her relationship with HW was very tensed. We can not debate whats right and whats wrong in love, you are absolutely acting like a crazy fangirl of YJ lol

“Everyone likes her betterâ€

 

Is this elementary school? Lmao

 

—

 

I’m so glad show is over tomorrow.

Edited June 14, 2018 by GRISHA

[ASS]

“Everyone likes her betterâ€

 

Is this elementary school? Lmao

 

—

 

I’m so glad show is over tomorrow.

[.ataraxia]

I'm reposting my thoughts on Reddit forum here to see if anyone's interested enough to discuss with me about episode 12, one that I think was rather heavily edited to create drama on the expense of the cast. 

 

HW is not perfect, as much as the show tried to paint him to be. He's charming and attractive, yes, but no where close to perfect. He can be socially awkward, timid, a bit intimidating, dense, silly, and the list goes on. But as a guy in his 30s, I believe he's been through a lot of hardships, judging from his previous careers as well as his education background, so we have to give him the benefit of the doubt when it comes to romance. He's nowhere near indecisive if you ask me. He might be nervous and too self conscious with words but definitely not indecisive. He's been vocalizing about what he wants in a relationship (not looking for short term flings), in a romantic partner (someone whose lifestyle matches his), short term goal (wanting the show to end in order to date the one he likes freely on his own term) and long term objective (wanting to get married soon). He seems certain about what he's doing with his restaurant (a small resto with home-made recipe and menu, changing according to his mood of the day). He drives a matt-black Rover, wears expensive watch, dresses stylish and has a delicate taste in lifestyle in general. To be completely honest, he's living the life. Even the panelists commented about this and said the exact words if I'm not wrong.

Even though I was initial drawn by his seemingly dark and manly aura, but now that I had enough time to think about it, I prefer YJ to go with someone else, DG would be a better fit. Simple because a man like HW can be hard to handle, if not stressful, and is required of a lot of dating experience to figure him out. YJ is just fresh out of uni and might not have much dating history regarding older men, and therefore lack the said experience, I believe, so there goes her risk. But in all honesty, if they decide to stay together, she can learn to let go of her ego  and insecurities (she has somewhat already done that during her conversation with friend in the cafe) by communicating with him and their relationship can actually go on for a very long time if they want it to. 

I think HW and YJ got the most hate in episode 12 (maybe I'm wrong, or maybe they just get bashed equally each episode) because of the way the panelists kept on brainwashing us. When it was DG/JM date, they kept their excitement to the minimum and brushed off any spark/clicks between DG and JM as much as they can, by either saying nothing at all about their cute moments or insinuating how sorry the situation was for JM because DG just couldn't like JM back. They simple say DG and JM made the most out of the awkward date because DG always has HJ in the back of his mind. However, during the second, even more awkward date, HW/HJ, they kept on insisting there was sparks/feelings between the two when all I could see was the painful disappointment from HW (btw, HW could've played it cool there but instead he just couldn't hide his disappointment and uneasiness, not very manly of him tbh), and HJ's embarrassed face whenever he brought up YJ. They, too, tried to make the most out of this unpleasant and tricky date by eventually letting go and enjoying it, yet the panelists claimed it was because those two secretly and unknowingly realized they still liked each other.

I'm just baffled. I mean, what in the world? The two scenarios are almost alike when the guys are not completely happy, but somewhat have to be okay with their date (JM showed up instead of HJ, HJ showed up instead of YJ) (because at the end of the day they have to be a gentleman on the show and not appear to be disgruntle about it). But the ways the panelists approached about those two situations were completely different. I don't understand their motives, but they somehow successfully brainwashed most viewers' minds into thinking that HW had other feelings for HJ while DG absolutely didn't have anything for JM. Despite the fact that DG were never vocal about his feelings for HJ (everyone knows it does not equally mean him admitting it) and HW basically showed his affections for YJ and admitted it to everyone in the house at every chance he got, just not directly to the person involved (aka. YJ, because of the show's rules).

My point is, the panelists are at fault in this episode for confusing viewers' minds. Maybe they wanted to create drama/twists for the show, or they were just being kind and prepared out hearts for the 180 degree change of hearts tomorrow. We shall see. 

Oh tomorrow, please come faster, or maybe don't come at all.

Cheers. 

 

 

@mcatcher, welcome to thread, btw. Tho I'm not sure whether the backlash around YJxHW couple was a result from brainwashing, but I'm agree that the production crew and panelist had a hand in creating certain narrative for some drama and the so called conflict around the house. Maybe not to the point that everything was fake and heavily scripted, but with the way each scenes was presented (i.e. zooming in to certain member facial expression and such) and its messed up timeline, they could easily get away with creating suspense from basically everything (even out of non-issue and casual interaction) and put certain member into the hot water. And let's just say that the biasness of those panelist is more apparent in this season than previous one. It's like they all forgot the whole reason of having panelist on the show...to interpret and discuss the behavior of cast members to each other, but instead some of them just there acting like a regular viewer gushing their absolute favorite and disregard the others, lol.

 

My problem with HW is his own peculiar way on expressing himself can easily be misunderstood by others. Sometimes he said the wrong things at the worst possible timing that made YJ second guessing his heart. But they both equally responsible for the misunderstanding tbh.. in YJ's case, her mind seems hard to move on from his past "mishap" when he still trapped with choices between YJ and HJ. Not mean to forget her long list of positive qualities, but on this instances YJ appears to be the type that hold grudges, lol. But nobody's perfect, anyway. There's always drama around every type of human relationship, the most important thing is their continuous effort to talk things through and solved it.

 

About HJxHW, although her easy going personality mesh well with his rather timid self, but I personally don't see that much chemistry happening around them. It's what she does to everyone, not exclusively to HW, that makes anyone completely at ease and comfortable around her. One of her core character, her cheerfulness, prompt whoever she interacted with feel welcome. They probably work well as a couple, but even so I don't see HJ went all the way choosing HW for her final pick. Even if there was a lingering feeling left for HW, she already been through so much heartbreak with him that I doubt a person with so much self-respect like HJ would still pick him. We also saw that she tried to move on for real with how much she praised DG and put her attention towards him in last three episode. So, unless something big happens tomorrow I don't see HWxHJ ending up together.

 

Honestly, I'm done with all of this debate on who ends up with who, let's just hope that whatever decision they make for themselves it was for the best and they all walked out from this show somewhat happy and content with their choices

[GRISHA - A Yoonbin Stan]

Ok so here’s my prediction for tomorrow

 

Dogyun -> hyunjoo

Jangmi -> Dogyun

Gyubin -> youngjoo

Jaeho -> Daeun

Daeun -> Jaeho

Hyunjoo -> Hyunwo

Hyunwo -> Hyunjoo

Youngjoo -> Hyunwo

 

That’s it! I’m reallllly curious to see who chooses who. I’ll hopefully be watching it live

Please drop the raw live stream here once it starts!

 

I hope one of us gets the predictions right (me)

Edited June 14, 2018 by GRISHA