OK, so I went to see Star Trek... (rant and minor spoilers)

[h0neanias]

I had really low expectations after the first movie, but I desired some easy good time, wanted to give them a second chance, and was admittedly curious. First, I've been a fan of Benedict Cumberbatch since Sherlock, second, Khan Noonien Singh is not only among my favourite Star Trek characters, but one of my best-liked villains altogether. I was interested in how Cumberbatch embodies Khan, I mean, I like them both, what could go wrong, right?

 

Oh, boy.

 

Someone explain to me how three "writers" could shit out a script not only truly, utterly, and completely devoid of a single original idea, but one that signals each and every turn miles and miles away and unerringly picks the most obvious next step every fucking time. After the third or so time this happened, I started thinking it was a game and the creators would use it to surprise me by dodging the bullet for once. They didn't; worse, they jumped right in its path and took it for the motherland.

 

Now to Khan. Originally he was an Oriental warlord, proud, brilliant, and strong. Indian, hence the name, but whatever, I can survive that, I went for the movie knowing what was up. Worse is that none of his interesting traits translated into this film. What he got was mild superpowers and, fittingly, a poorly-sketched superiority complex. Good Ben tries to be intense, but he's got nothing to act; what remains is a two-bit comicbook villain that could fit into any Marvel film in the last ten years.

 

I wasn't expecting a masterpiece, but a decent sci-fi movie would be nice, preferably without gaping plotholes and the cheapest solutions possible. Well, guess what. It's time to admit, dear Trekkies, that our favourite myth is gone. The future is dead. May you young ones never know the smell of burning childhood.

[fuckJohnny]

*hugs*

[Libidinosa]

lmao.

[removed929393303]

I liked the movie. I never had high expectations for the reboot series and merely look at it as something entertaining. I watch the movies for Chris Pine and Zachary Quinto. 

[hazee]

I was just disappointed that they essentially took the original reboot and recycled every single joke.

 

Oh, and I still don't understand the point of the Urhura and Spock fight scene w/ Kirk -- or the romance in general. Stupid.

 

Oh, and I'm also convinced that it wasn't a complete flop because of Cumberbatch basically carrying the film with a half-assed realized, reincarnated Khan.

[The King]

I'm mad I wasted $5 extra to see it in 3d. 

 

Thought it was mildly entertaining, don't follow Star Trek the TV show so I can't comment on the quality of the story. But definitely not worth the 3D ticket. 

[h0neanias]

Oh, and I'm also convinced that it wasn't a complete flop because of Cumberbatch basically carrying the film with a half-assed realized, reincarnated Khan.

 

If they at least did something interesting with the character, for fuck's sake, and no, making him white does not qualify on its own. Waste, bloody waste of an amazing villain. The only silver lining is that Abrams fucks off to torture Star Wars this time over. I'd be dismayed, but George did a rough number on that one himself already.

[RainStormRaider]

First of all, let me explain the one thing that's always annoyed me about Khan Noonien Singh.

There is NO WAY ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH that anyone can have "Khan" AND "Singh" in the same name.

 

Also, "Khan" is NOT an Indian name, its a Pashto name that implies something that the creators of the Wrath of Khan had NO CLUE OF WHATSOEVER.

AND ITS NEVER A FIRST NAME.

I CAN'T WITH THIS MISAPPROPRIATION.

 

So there goes that.

 

 

Otherwise, the movie in of itself was decent but nothing special.

 

Also, we've already established that you were SUPREMELY underwhelmed by the Star Trek reboot, so knowing that already, wouldn't you be like biased against ANYTHING that came after any way?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lastly, the original Star Trek had VERY FEW GOOD EPISODES.

WHY DO PEOPLE INSIST ON DEIFYING SOMETHING THAT WAS MEDIOCRE AT BEST AND HAD ONLY MERE GLIMPSES OF GLORY?

[shik's #1 fan]

I'm mad I wasted $5 extra to see it in 3d. 

 

Thought it was mildly entertaining, don't follow Star Trek the TV show so I can't comment on the quality of the story. But definitely not worth the 3D ticket. 

 

oh

that was the only reason I was going to see the movie too

were the effects that bad?

[hazee]

If they at least did something interesting with the character, for fuck's sake, and no, making him white does not qualify on its own. Waste, bloody waste of an amazing villain. The only silver lining is that Abrams fucks off to torture Star Wars this time over. I'd be dismayed, but George did a rough number on that one himself already.

 

It's truly a testament to his talent the way he handled that villain -- although the writing was nowhere near what the idea of Khan is, he still dominated every scene as the "Generic Space Villain".

 

But I think the fact that Abrams has his hands full with Star Wars might be an implication of the lackluster quality of this film. I'm actually looking forward to what he'll do because there is nowhere else to go for Star Wars but up at this point for the franchise.

 

 

 

 

Lastly, the original Star Trek had VERY FEW GOOD EPISODES.

WHY DO PEOPLE INSIST ON DEIFYING SOMETHING THAT WAS MEDIOCRE AT BEST AND HAD ONLY MERE GLIMPSES OF GLORY?

lmaoooo

 

SO TRUE and yet, there is something incredibly special about the original series <3333 and fuck me, that reminds me of Bones testing the blood on the tribble, OMG WHY T____T that shit was best left in the 60s TT___TT

[The King]

oh

that was the only reason I was going to see the movie too

were the effects that bad?

 

The effects weren't bad, it's a visually good movie.

 

It's just that there were maybe 5 minutes total of when the 3D was utilized. 

 

I feel like 3D is just a gimmick now to get bigger box office numbers. 

[Schitstainz]

Annnnnnnnnd, that's why you should never go into a movie, especially known to be a remake, and expect it to be like the original.

 

Your fault, really.

 

 

 

I never followed Star Trek religiously, but I absolutely love this current franchise.

[h0neanias]

First of all, let me explain the one thing that's always annoyed me about Khan Noonien Singh.

There is NO WAY ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH that anyone can have "Khan" AND "Singh" in the same name.

 

Also, "Khan" is NOT an Indian name, its a Pashto name that implies something that the creators of the Wrath of Khan had NO CLUE OF WHATSOEVER.

AND ITS NEVER A FIRST NAME.

I CAN'T WITH THIS MISAPPROPRIATION.

 

So there goes that.

 

 

Otherwise, the movie in of itself was decent but nothing special.

 

Also, we've already established that you were SUPREMELY underwhelmed by the Star Trek reboot, so knowing that already, wouldn't you be like biased against ANYTHING that came after any way?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lastly, the original Star Trek had VERY FEW GOOD EPISODES.

WHY DO PEOPLE INSIST ON DEIFYING SOMETHING THAT WAS MEDIOCRE AT BEST AND HAD ONLY MERE GLIMPSES OF GLORY?

 

Khan was originally stated to be a Sikh, but the idea was clearly to make him vaguely Oriental, whatever, it was the 60s. Kirk kissing Uhura used to be a big deal then. "Khan" may well be his title. Again, I don't really give a shit about this or that they made him white this time over. But if the character itself fails whatever test you propose, if he makes people uncomfortable, why use him at all? All I asked for was something interesting. Sorry, nope, we're out of interesting. Here's forgettable.

 

I went there because I hoped his character and backstory will at least 1) be decently utilised, 2) appear in a passable story. Again, I expected very little, but this level of writing incompetence caught me by surprise. That people praise this movie is a very poor certificate for the general public.

 

Because there is potential. And if anything, I'd compare the movies, some of which are very good. But that's beside the point, I didn't go there to relive something. I just expected a better job on its own, Star Trek or no, that's all.

[RainStormRaider]

Khan was originally stated to be a Sikh, but the idea was clearly to make him vaguely Oriental, whatever, it was the 60s. Kirk kissing Uhura used to be a big deal then. "Khan" may well be his title. Again, I don't really give a shit about this or that they made him white this time over. But if the character itself fails whatever test you propose, if he makes people uncomfortable, why use him at all? All I asked for was something interesting. Sorry, nope, we're out of interesting. Here's forgettable.

 

I went there because I hoped his character and backstory will at least 1) be decently utilised, 2) appear in a passable story. Again, I expected very little, but this level of writing incompetence caught me by surprise. That people praise this movie is a very poor certificate for the general public.

 

Because there is potential. And if anything, I'd compare the movies, some of which are very good. But that's beside the point, I didn't go there to relive something. I just expected a better job on its own, Star Trek or no, that's all.

 

I gotta agree on one thing, the sequel wasn't the greatest, I didn't see why it was needed. I enjoyed the reboot though.

I also wish they'd left this over-the-top completely-hilariously-bad-villain in the past where he belonged.

Without the shadow of Khan over his head, Benedict's performance really stands out.

 

And yes, the film was over-the-top ridiculous and Kirk's Mary Sue-ness was exceptionally bland, but if you're already predetermined to hate on a reboot, how can you expect it to pleasantly surprise you?

[h0neanias]

And yes, the film was over-the-top ridiculous and Kirk's Mary Sue-ness was exceptionally bland, but if you're already predetermined to hate on a reboot, how can you expect it to pleasantly surprise you?

 

I can take both ridiculous and Mary Sue-ness, after all, Kirk was always the show's darling, that's nothing new. What I criticised is the screenwriting incompetency that lets you predict "reveals", "twists", and "stratagems" miles ahead -- and they are all stupid. I have to reiterate: I am disappointed not by it being a poor Star Trek film, I was fine with it and went there knowing it. What I am saddened by is that a new Star Trek film has to be of such poor quality overall -- of obviously poor quality, is my point. They just didn't care. And I'm not even talking about how Abrams has no vision of a future, that's another thing. I get the feeling that if it weren't Star Trek and all the characters, people would just facepalm.

[Taecmetothefloor]

I liked the movie. I never had high expectations for the reboot series and merely look at it as something entertaining. I watch the movies for Chris Pine and Zachary Quinto. 

Same with me. I'm not a huge Star Trek fan to begin with ( the only era I really remember watching as a child was "the next generation" ) so i didn't know what to expect nor did i have high expectations since i haven't watched the original series/movies and since it's a reboot.

 

I found it to be a decent movie (chris pine though <3)

[removed929393303]

Same with me. I'm not a huge Star Trek fan to begin with ( the only era I really remember watching as a child was "the next generation" ) so i didn't know what to expect nor did i have high expectations since i haven't watched the original series/movies and since it's a reboot.

 

I found it to be a decent movie (chris pine though <3)

 

I watched the original series and tbh I've never understood why people act like it was the best thing ever when the acting was very bad and the episodes weren't that great. Hell the only Star Trek movies I ever liked were The Wrath of Khan and The Search For Spock, the other ones were shitty. 

[Taecmetothefloor]

I watched the original series and tbh I've never understood why people act like it was the best thing ever when the acting was very bad and the episodes weren't that great. Hell the only Star Trek movies I ever liked were The Wrath of Khan and The Search For Spock, the other ones were shitty. 

My father actually has enjoyed the reboot movies and he did like the original series and movies, so i thought that must be saying something to him. now he doesn't think they compare to the likes of The Wrath of Khanh but they are pretty good for a reboot series.

[hazee]

Oh, the first reboot was baller, I can't tell you all how many times I've watched it.

 

It just feels like the second one was in the shadow of Abrams trying to work on other projects as well (primarily, Star Wars). The plot line was fine on its own for what they were trying to do with the movie (characterizations aside) but it felt like a lot of the movie was just cut and paste jokes, references or sayings from the first reboot film.

[removed929393303]

Oh, the first reboot was baller, I can't tell you all how many times I've watched it.

 

It just feels like the second one was in the shadow of Abrams trying to work on other projects as well (primarily, Star Wars). The plot line was fine on its own for what they were trying to do with the movie (characterizations aside) but it felt like a lot of the movie was just cut and paste jokes, references or sayings from the first reboot film.

 

I agree that Into Darkness was not nearly as good as the first reboot movie and Abrams should have put a lot more effort into it. With the characterizations though, I feel that they have a lot of wiggle room to make slight changed since these are supposed to be alternate versions of the original characters. 

[BubbleGumPop]

SMH at people that wasted money on this racist/sexist pos

[Seditary]

My biggest problem with Khan in Into Darkness is there was no reason or payoff for him being Khan. He reveals his name in some big scene that means nothing unless you're already a Trekkie which then just colours the rest of the film poorly given its straight up aping of several Wrath of Khan scenes. Hell Zachary Quinto has to call Leonard Nimoy to straight up explain how Khan was the 'greatest enemy we ever faced' in order to ham fist into the audience that Into Darkness Khan wasn't an actual character.

 

Won't even get into all the technical bullshit and stupid plotholes. Like how the Klingons have no starships near Kronos or Starfleet has seemingly all gone out to lunch while the Enterprise and the other ship have a battle over Earth.

[......]

wait...

 

people watch the new Star Trek films ... for more than just oggling Zoe Saldana?

[Your Juan and only]

Annnnnnnnnd, that's why you should never go into a movie, especially known to be a remake, and expect it to be like the original.

 

Your fault, really.

 

 

 

I never followed Star Trek religiously, but I absolutely love this current franchise.

Same.

 

I never expect remakes to be like the original.

[......]

Same.

 

I never expect remakes to be like the original.

 

your signature made me actually laugh out loud. The last frame of the second gif especially...omg.