delirium 4,237 Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Most of us have an eclectic taste in music; we like a bit of hiphop and a bit of rock, we enjoy pop and indie, we vibe to edm and r&b. So why do fans constantly expect the artists that they listen to to only stick to one genre - if it’s fine to have Slipknot and Tupac right after each other on the same playlist - why do fans rail against an artist when they try to change their sound or experiment with genres? Why is it considered weird for an artist to do more than one sound if most individuals enjoy listening to more than just one sound? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tide 14,243 Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Why is it considered weird for an artist to do more than one sound if most individuals enjoy listening to more than just one sound? it's kinda like how you expect a pizza place to sell pizza, are fine if they begin selling calzones, and get really confused when they start selling sushi. unless they advertised themselves as a pizza-sushi place, the drastic change in selling points is going to confuse and upset frequent visitors/fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter Bear 9,460 Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 it's kinda like how you expect a pizza place to sell pizza, are fine if they begin selling calzones, and get really confused when they start selling sushi. unless they advertised themselves as a pizza-sushi place, the drastic change in selling points is going to confuse and upset frequent visitors/fans. I love this example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delirium 4,237 Posted February 25, 2018 Author Share Posted February 25, 2018 it's kinda like how you expect a pizza place to sell pizza, are fine if they begin selling calzones, and get really confused when they start selling sushi. unless they advertised themselves as a pizza-sushi place, the drastic change in selling points is going to confuse and upset frequent visitors/fans. I like that example, it makes sense. But if the place continued to sell their pizza and the quality didn't change, how would it affect the individuals who only go there for pizza, anyway? Wouldn't their addition of sushi would be irrelevant to those who didn't want it? It would be equivalent to skipping a song that you don't like on an album. New artists seem to get locked into a genre by others after only releasing 2 or 3 songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tide 14,243 Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 I like that example, it makes sense. But if the place continued to sell their pizza and the quality didn't change, how would it affect the individuals who only go there for pizza, anyway? Wouldn't their addition of sushi would be irrelevant to those who didn't want it? It would be equivalent to skipping a song that you don't like on an album. New artists seem to get locked into a genre by others after only releasing 2 or 3 songs. sure thing -- continuing on the pizza-sushi example: the pizza place would have to redo their branding. they are no longer a casual italian place, but a place that serves sushi. so a bit more high class and asian. from their advertisements to their indoor decorations, they will have to reflect the inclusion of a new asian cuisine. by reaching new audiences, they will lose old audiences. people who for a nice slice of ny pizza, something that's quite american and grounded in a middle-class aesthetic, might feel a bit alienated by the sudden chic and foreign feel. a pizza place caters to a wide demographic, one that can include families -- having sushi means inviting an audience composed mostly of young adults, probably college students or workers, who have a bit more money to spend. this new audience could drive away parts of the old audience. and the same thing would happen if someone switched from doing heavy metal to pico-pop. part of your question relies on a faulty premise: even if i have a wide variety of music, it is catered to me. i curated it to my likes and dislikes by choosing the artists and specific sounds. that doesnt mean that i want those sounds overlapping outside of my sphere of influence, if that makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowpoke X 1,319 Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 it's called getting old. most people as they get older, prefer music they listened when they were young. and they like their faves to stay similar style. a new trends in music are often first accepted among teens, who are more ready to try new things. from there the trends spread elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delirium 4,237 Posted February 26, 2018 Author Share Posted February 26, 2018 sure thing -- continuing on the pizza-sushi example: the pizza place would have to redo their branding. they are no longer a casual italian place, but a place that serves sushi. so a bit more high class and asian. from their advertisements to their indoor decorations, they will have to reflect the inclusion of a new asian cuisine. by reaching new audiences, they will lose old audiences. people who for a nice slice of ny pizza, something that's quite american and grounded in a middle-class aesthetic, might feel a bit alienated by the sudden chic and foreign feel. a pizza place caters to a wide demographic, one that can include families -- having sushi means inviting an audience composed mostly of young adults, probably college students or workers, who have a bit more money to spend. this new audience could drive away parts of the old audience. and the same thing would happen if someone switched from doing heavy metal to pico-pop. part of your question relies on a faulty premise: even if i have a wide variety of music, it is catered to me. i curated it to my likes and dislikes by choosing the artists and specific sounds. that doesnt mean that i want those sounds overlapping outside of my sphere of influence, if that makes sense. Yes, it definitely still makes sense if the artist identifies as a niche genre. And thank you for also alluding to all of the changes that must and might occur during a transition. There have been quite a few artists who have lost fans when they abandoned or evolved their original sound and depending on how they initiated the change, they have even upset fans. Yet, some of those same artists have been hailed as helping to precipitate an entire genre, such as The Beatles and Psychedelic, which would have never occurred if they didn't step over their boundaries. In this, I wondered if our need to not overlap our sounds possibly restricts artists from growing their sound, should they wish. It's one thing to tailor our musical library to taste but another to impose habituality onto an artist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tide 14,243 Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Yes, it definitely still makes sense if the artist identifies as a niche genre. And thank you for also alluding to all of the changes that must and might occur during a transition. There have been quite a few artists who have lost fans when they abandoned or evolved their original sound and depending on how they initiated the change, they have even upset fans. Yet, some of those same artists have been hailed as helping to precipitate an entire genre, such as The Beatles and Psychedelic, which would have never occurred if they didn't step over their boundaries. In this, I wondered if our need to not overlap our sounds possibly restricts artists from growing their sound, should they wish. It's one thing to tailor our musical library to taste but another to impose habituality onto an artist. hm, i understand what you are s aying, byt i feel like psychedelic wasn't that far off from the original sound of the beatles. it was an evolution. in the pizza example it would be like branching off to garlic knots, pasta, lasagna, and calzones -- new additions, yet not too far off from the original. they feed into and branch off from the original, yet they arent large deviations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
081396033197 167 Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 I think it's mainly because people like to listen to a certain group because they have a certain sound to them. But once that group tries expanding into different sounding music, listeners are disappointed that they aren't getting any more of that unique sound that attracted them to that group in the first place. That pizza/sushi example was the best way to put it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vtzu 1,500 Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 it depends on the artist Some ppl may like cute girl groups and sexy girl groups but that doesn't mean they want to see their favorite cute gg do something sexy or vice versa :o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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