enchante 4,542 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 I've spoken a lot about this on my twitter but not on here. Personally I think the gun laws are antiquated and need to changed. Lawmakers need to let go of their pride and NRA donations and value the lives of their children above the money filling their pockets. As always please be civil and respectful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seunghee's eyebrows 32,638 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Well I just heard that Trump suggested having more guns in schools by arming teachers. Not sure if that's not a great idea. Click here to view the Tweet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enchante 4,542 Posted February 22, 2018 Author Share Posted February 22, 2018 Well I just heard that Trump suggested having more guns in schools by arming teachers. Not sure if that's not a great idea. Click here to view the Tweet Yeah I completely disagree on that front. I'm more for get guns, specifically assault weapons off the street altogether and in the military where they belong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VANTE 4,595 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 i know this is a politically extreme opinion but i kinda just want the 2nd amendment repealed tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirine 4,209 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Setting aside any feelings I have about the gun laws. I'm proud that the kids are standing up and protesting. As someone who's been in a school shooting before, it makes me so happy that they're refusing to let people move on from it and they're demanding change. I hope their protesting can result in some sort of change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enchante 4,542 Posted February 22, 2018 Author Share Posted February 22, 2018 i know this is a politically extreme opinion but i kinda just want the 2nd amendment repealed tbh Yeah I wouldn't go that far. The 2nd amendment was originally put in place to rebel against a tyrannical government tho...so idk. I wouldn't repeal it but it needs to be changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VANTE 4,595 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Yeah I wouldn't go that far. The 2nd amendment was originally put in place to rebel against a tyrannical government tho...so idk. I wouldn't repeal it but it needs to be changed. thats totally fair i dont expect people to agree with me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OppaiLoli 736 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Americans sure love their guns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeatrixKiddo 6,468 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 The second amendment needs to be updated. It was written back when the government and citizens were equal in terms of firepower and reloading a gun took 10 minutes. Gun laws in general need to be completely overhauled starting with the demilitarization of police forces. As for the kids, I'm incredibly proud that they're speaking out and not letting people write them off as just another statistic like every other mass shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PongPing 110 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 pointless... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAE ANGEL 782 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 I'm just shocked that I live in a country that thinks THIS is a better idea than implementing gun control laws Click here to view the Tweet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pseudo 1,135 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 I have no issues with responsible, level-headed gunowners who have them for hobby purposes (collection, hunting etc) but as demonstrated time and time again with school shootings there's not enough regulation on who gets their hands on these weapons or the killing power available to anyone of asking in the general public. I'm not an American so I can't tell them to do what i want, but children dying senselessly to violence is no one's happiness. More strongly enforced background checks, mental health checks, and ban on all quick-firing weapons should be a start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enchante 4,542 Posted February 22, 2018 Author Share Posted February 22, 2018 pointless... i'm curious as to why you think that? could you explain your reasoning please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochichan 12,341 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 This country is a backward ass country and need to update their damn laws. The 2nd amendment was written when 70% of the country was the wild, and guns take one 1 minute to reload. I think the students are amazing and many of seniors that will be allow to vote by midterm could change the representatives scale in govt. They're passionate and young enough to not accept shitty things as status quo Well I just heard that Trump suggested having more guns in schools by arming teachers. Not sure if that's not a great idea. Click here to view the Tweet It's just to deflect from the gun control talks. It's dumb af on the basic idea of allowing guns around teens. Then there's the other issues like expecting teachers to be calm enough or well trained enough to shoot down someone they once taught, or who will pay for those weapons/trainings when teachers are severely underpaid that many pay for supplies themselves. And what about accidental discharges etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gore 8,169 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 They’re horrific But I doubt they will be changed majorly any time soon as long as lobbying is allowed. The nra has a lot of clout with a republican majority government, giving politicians millions upon millions of dollars to slap down any type of reform, even the littlest of things like maybe people below 21 shouldn’t be allowed to legally own guns.. etc. the nra is honestly a terror organization Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sickwithsin 11,102 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Republican mindset: $$$ from NRA >>>>> kids' lives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonjon 1,081 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 It's not that gun owners and the NRA are evil and the politicians are corrupt. It's about balance. Cars kill more people than guns but we don't ban them because we can all agree their benefit outweighs the danger they possess. Likewise, that is how a lot of gun owners and NRA see their guns: Their benefit outweighs the danger. Americans have always been more individualistic so their rights > community. And there is alot of historical baggage because a lot of Americans never trusted the government to protect them so a gun is their means of self-defense. It's like someone suggesting your country get rid of the police and the military. It's important to understand their perspective, not just impose your own opinion on them or demonize them. I hope no one gets offended by this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silicon soul 19,457 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Get rid of guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sakurahanabira 6,633 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Get rid of guns. but then what about hunters who hunt their own food? Even in Japan where gun control is very strict to the point where very few people own guns because it's not worth the hassle (and they don't have a strong history with guns like the US), hunting guns are allowed (though owners must get a hunting license first). Semiautomatic and automatic guns should be banned, yes, but hunters should at least be able to use a gun to hunt their own meat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damewon 500 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 I am not a gun owner but there are a lot of things that anti-gun people never address which I only knew about bc someone explained it to me. 1. "Semi-automatic" doesn't mean anything. Something is either automatic (machine gun like fire when you press on the trigger) or its a regular one (one pull on the trigger produces one shot). So something like the AR-15 is not a automatic (machine gun) gun, you have the same rate of fire as a shotgun. I heard this from a very trustworthy source so correct me if I'm wrong (and cite a source). This means any hunting rifle has the same rate of fire as a "assault rifle". What a assault rifle is is basically a shotgun that looks really military and a lot scarier than a regular hunting rifle. My point is banning "semi automatic assault rifles" just means you're going to ban regular hunting rifles as well. Maybe this means nothing to you but it means everything to Americans who love to hunt. 2. People need guns to protect themselves. For example there are a lot of korean grocery owners who own handguns for self protection. We're talking about banning assault rifles now but what's to stop a mass shooter from targeting a school with a handgun? You would kill a minimum 6-12 people without having to put in another clip of ammo. Most of the gun deaths in America are from handguns not AR-15 type rifles. I guarantee you even if you banned assault rifles someone would shoot up a school with only handguns and then people would want handguns banned. Its a slipper slope. You get handguns banned and a lot of people in bad neighborhoods are helpless. 3. This is something that gun owners constantly point out, if you make guns illegal smugglers will just bring a ton of guns from Mexico. Isn't it ironic the people who want marijuana legalized don't see the irony of wanting to make guns illegal? Making something illegal just empowers gangsters who operate in the black market. Do you know how scary Mexican cartels are? They behead people and the police can't do anything (or are bribed) and they have effing armies. How many billions are they going to get from selling guns in America? Maybe you limit some dangerous people from buying guns but whatever that difference is will be made up by the explosion in the gun black market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momo's lamborghini 3,417 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Gun is American culture now ,it's nothing to do with logic anymore ,it's a obsession Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silicon soul 19,457 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 but then what about hunters who hunt their own food? Even in Japan where gun control is very strict to the point where very few people own guns because it's not worth the hassle (and they don't have a strong history with guns like the US), hunting guns are allowed (though owners must get a hunting license first). Semiautomatic and automatic guns should be banned, yes, but hunters should at least be able to use a gun to hunt their own meat. I mean a ban on access to and ownership of guns for the general public. We have laws where only very specific people that require the use of guns, like you mentioned Hunters, armed forces, certain farmers etc can legally own a gun. But if you're not someone that specifically needs one for work then you don't have access to guns at all. Obviously actual owners make up a very small minority and the checks license required are very stringent so esentially speaking the general public has no access to guns, not even everyday police are allowed to carry guns (only special weapons units which are dispatched to things like terrorist threats). We haven't have a school shooting since 1996, which was the event that brought on the no guns for public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yeoleeda 406 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 american need to fix that isnt it terrorism? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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