XUANYI 1,869 Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Symphonyâ„¢ 11,329 Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Yeah... she still can't rap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeelian 519 Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Mess. Anyway 99% of so called rappers can't do shit. Besides Miryo and CL for female the level is as low as Rebecca Black's discography. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeyonChaé 47 Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Just sing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baetics 888 Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 It's not that she can't rap it's her rapping that is bad. (Does that even make sense? :P) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alt 764 Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Her rap isn't that great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatsvicchan 3,818 Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 I know this queen isn't so great at rapping but still her parts are usually my favourite in Sistar's songs. Like the one in Alone *w* Bora Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustHyorin 126 Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 their envy to perfect girl n perfect group, everyone known. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kc157489 3,758 Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 I don't know what some of u people define as a good rapper. Reading lines written by another person and rapping them does not make you a good rapper nor does substituting rapping with slurring of your words or sounding cool. As far as I'm concerned there are only a handful of decent idol rappers and none of them are great. Yes bora isn't a great rapper but she is decent/average if you could take the time and read the lyrics to her miss Korea cover (which she wrote) u can see that it has meaning, makes sense, and executes an average level of rhythm. Sounding cool does not make u a good rapper!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lips ruby blue 285 Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 What does it even mean for an idol to be "good at rapping"? Most of them do not write their own parts, they just read the words in the way they are instructed to by whoever wrote/produced the song. Bora is precisely the same as most other idol rappers. edit: beaten to it by Kc157489. Still, if Bora did write her raps here, she already towers over the vast majority of idol rappers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ì…� 918 Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 She's okay but Hyorin's rap is more of my style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustHyorin 126 Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 sistar have perfect vocal, rapper, and backing vocal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriel Celeste 2,261 Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 sistar have perfect vocal, rapper, and backing vocal. you forgot perfect dancer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baetics 888 Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 She's okay but Hyorin's rap is more of my style. Agreed c: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XUANYI 1,869 Posted April 28, 2014 Author Share Posted April 28, 2014 I don't know what some of u people define as a good rapper. Reading lines written by another person and rapping them does not make you a good rapper nor does substituting rapping with slurring of your words or sounding cool. As far as I'm concerned there are only a handful of decent idol rappers and none of them are great. Yes bora isn't a great rapper but she is decent/average if you could take the time and read the lyrics to her miss Korea cover (which she wrote) u can see that it has meaning, makes sense, and executes an average level of rhythm. Sounding cool does not make u a good rapper!! you forgot perfect dancer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paper Ice Cream 10,236 Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 IDK what's the basis/criteria of others when classifying someone a good or bad rapper. But all I know is that, Sistar is a complete package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alisonn 5,454 Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 I don't know what some of u people define as a good rapper. Reading lines written by another person and rapping them does not make you a good rapper nor does substituting rapping with slurring of your words or sounding cool. As far as I'm concerned there are only a handful of decent idol rappers and none of them are great. Yes bora isn't a great rapper but she is decent/average if you could take the time and read the lyrics to her miss Korea cover (which she wrote) u can see that it has meaning, makes sense, and executes an average level of rhythm. Sounding cool does not make u a good rapper!! I don't know a lot about rapping, but I know rapping has to do with flow and rhythm. It should go with the flow of the music, which Bora and most idol rappers don't do. You don't have to write your own lyrics to be a good rapper, just like how a good vocalist doesn't need to write their own lyrics. If you can read the lines written by someone else and get it to flow with the beat of the music, it doesn't matter that you didn't write them, because you would still be a good rapper. A good lyricist is different from a good rapper. Edit: Also if that is what you believe makes a good rapper, is Tiffany a good rapper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeelian 519 Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 You can also say if you are a good rapper with the rythm, delivery and the flow. Bora is bad not decent. CL is decent/good. Miryo is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lips ruby blue 285 Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 I don't know a lot about rapping, but I know rapping has to do with flow and rhythm. It should go with the flow of the music, which Bora and most idol rappers don't do. This is on the person that writes the part, however. The songwriter/producer fits the text to the music when writing it, and the idols read it as they are told to, just as they do with sung lyrics. You can credit someone like Miryo (or, apparently, Bora) with rapping skill in this sense, but most idol rappers do not have anything to do with how the texts they rap fit with the music. You don't have to write your own lyrics to be a good rapper, just like how a good vocalist doesn't need to write their own lyrics. If you can read the lines written by someone else and get it to flow with the beat of the music, it doesn't matter that you didn't write them, because you would still be a good rapper. A good lyricist is different from a good rapper. Anyone can learn to perform almost any rap part (I guess some very quick bits excepted, but then quicker does not mean better, anyway). You can listen to a record of Tymee or Outsider or whoever and learn to perform it just the way they do. There is not much skill to it in this sense; the trick is precisely in the wit and the songwriting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliver 22,442 Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 I'm so cool like Ice tea ~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alisonn 5,454 Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 This is on the person that writes the part, however. The songwriter/producer fits the text to the music when writing it, and the idols read it as they are told to, just as they do with sung lyrics. You can credit someone like Miryo (or, apparently, Bora) with rapping skill in this sense, but most idol rappers do not have anything to do with how the texts they rap fit with the music. Anyone can learn to perform almost any rap part (I guess some very quick bits excepted, but then quicker does not mean better, anyway). You can listen to a record of Tymee or Outsider or whoever and learn to perform it just the way they do. There is not much skill to it in this sense; the trick is precisely in the wit and the songwriting. It's up to the job of the idol to penn those lyrics right. Even when Bora writes the lyrics, it's evident that she's just mashing words together to make it sound meaningful. But that doesn't change that when she had complete control over the flow and rhythm of her rap she still couldn't do it. An idol's job is to deliver the lyrics or song given to them, so it's her responsibility to rap well or deliver the rap lyrics in a way that it flows with the songs. This can be controlled by a lot of things, whether it comes to breathing or taking breaks. If she's really just chanting what the lyricist has written, does that make her a rapper or just a mimic? And you're wrong with the next part. Give Bora a rap by Outsider and she'll never be able to perform it the same way Outsider does. Even in her own works it's evident she's not truly aware that a rap should have flow and rhythm. And as a rapper that isn't truly aware of those things, it's evident that she will never be able to rap the exact same way as Tymee or Outsider, because she simply won't be able to let the lyrics flow. You can be given lyrics, but two people will still be able to rap it differently even if it flows, because that's where their artistic colour or ability comes in. It's Bora's problem that she hasn't discovered what's critical to rap, so no matter the lyricist or the not, she simply can not rap! But as I've said I know very little about rap, and if you really aren't just arguing for the sake of arguing then go ask someone at the Rap thread. Because I'm certain she's definitely no where near decent. http://onehallyu.com/index.php?/topic/45853-official-rap-thread/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreepyPanda 5,157 Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Okay, I'm not a fan of Sistar and I'm not a fan of Bora's rapping, but regardless I hate this mentality where "If they're not the best they're not worth listening to..." This is what's gonna kill the music industry guys... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lips ruby blue 285 Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 It's up to the job of the idol to penn those lyrics right. Even when Bora writes the lyrics, it's evident that she's just mashing words together to make it sound meaningful. But that doesn't change that when she had complete control over the flow and rhythm of her rap she still couldn't do it. An idol's job is to deliver the lyrics or song given to them, so it's her responsibility to rap well or deliver the rap lyrics in a way that it flows with the songs. This can be controlled by a lot of things, whether it comes to breathing or taking breaks. If she's really just chanting what the lyricist has written, does that make her a rapper or just a mimic? Saying Bora "still" could not do it when writing her own part is irrelevant in comparison to other idols, because this is a much more difficult task than simply following orders from someone skilled in composing the flow and rhythm, which is what the vast majority of idols do. Idols usually do not participate in the songwriting, and consequently in the composition of the flow, at all, just like Bora herself usually does not. The flow in idol rap is the songwriter/producer's job, with very few exceptions. And you're wrong with the next part. Give Bora a rap by Outsider and she'll never be able to perform it the same way Outsider does. Even in her own works it's evident she's not truly aware that a rap should have flow and rhythm. Of course she is aware of it, just like nugus on onehallyu are. Creating good flow and rhythm in one's own compositions is a different thing from copying someone else's flow, however. The latter is trivial, and is also precisely what most idol rappers do. But as I've said I know very little about rap, and if you really aren't just arguing for the sake of arguing then go ask someone at the Rap thread. Because I'm certain she's definitely no where near decent. http://onehallyu.com/index.php?/topic/45853-official-rap-thread/ I'm arguing because people insult Bora on unfair grounds in comparison to other idol rappers. The criteria in that thread (expect for vocal tone, which is purely a matter of subjective preference and not a skill at all) relate to the songwriting, which, even if they talk about it by relating parts to idols for some reason, is not a thing for which the idols actually are responsible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazuma Kiryu 1,823 Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 just shut up haterszszz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bora.s4 2,673 Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 i find bora rap in sistar song very cool she can rap sad like in sistar crying and sistar19 (GONE NOT AROUND ANY LONGER) and happy , cute like in loving u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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