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Jo Kwon reps say they will accept if his degree is rescinded + Jo Kwon claims it's unfair he's being used as the sacrificial lamb
 

 


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Article: Jo Kwon reps, "We apologize for the degree controversy... we will accept it if his degree is canceled" [official statement]

Source: Sports Donga via Nate

1. [+1,074, -40] Let's be real, he's not the only one out there. He just got unlucky and was caught. Celebrities get perks everywhere.

2. [+1,023, -26] The amount of army evasion in the industry is too severe

3. [+952, -75] I knew there were too many stars with master's and doctorate degrees. How can they be deserving of these degrees when they've never even put out a thesis? Why are there so many comments supporting him when he should be getting into school on his own merit? All he's done is shatter the hopes of students actually deserving of these degrees. Please return your degree and take the punishment that's due.

4. [+46, -1] ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ When 'Infinity Challenge' was poking fun at Haha's master's degree, I didn't think much and just laughed along but now I realize it was so he could postpone the army and get into public service.

5. [+33, -2] Most celebrities who are postponing service until 30 years old are obviously getting into graduate school for the sole purpose of that so why is the army turning a blind eye to this? Please shut down all the schools that are allowing this.

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Article: Jo Kwon, "Why should I be the sacrifice... I really gave it my all, this is so painful"

Source: Star News via Nate

1. [+1,785, -130] From Jo Kwon's perspective, I can see how this must suck for him... I'm sure the truth will come out but if what he's saying is true, it's going to be hard for him for a while... Not sure about the rest but I'm sure Jo Kwon really worked hard in school. Find strength!!

2. [+1,205, -67] He's right, though. Aren't most of the idols who are in college right now in it for the same reasons? If you're going to target one of them, you should target them all.

3. [+144, -7] What Jo Kwon's saying is that there were never any rules and he was never notified about his thesis. If it's true, then yeah, it sucks for him. It's obvious even with Jung Yonghwa's scandal that there's no rule to follow in this school. Even the professor went to interview Jung Yonghwa personally... If there were rules set in place for these things, none of this would've happened. It's wrong to accuse him of breaking rules that never existed.

4. [+131, -9] The one that's in the wrong here is Kyunghee University. Not that I'm saying Jo Kwon did anything right but we need to get to the root of the issue and it seems like the school and their professors are the bigger issue here. It feels wrong to put all the blame on the celebrities instead.

5. [+93, -9] Yup, he's right, if we're going to dig into this issue, we need to uncover all the celebrities, not just target one...

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1. [+13,923, -285] It does seem like there are parts to this scandal that is unfair to Jo Kwon. All these celebrities keep getting pinpointed by the media but one of the attention is on how rotten the school is but more on ruining the image of the celebrities.

2. [+11,218, -185] This is a laughable school ã…‹ã…‹ Well Jo Kwon claims he has recordings and everything so just release them... you can tell how angry he is by his words

3. [+10,037, -375] Sounds like he has every right to be mad by his post

4. [+1,940, -80] He's always been a hard worker, I sense something genuine from his post

5. [+1,781, -56] The target should've been on the school all along instead of the celebrity in question

 

 

 

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I can see it from both perspectives.  If it is an unfair advantage, this practice must be stopped.  But at the same time, I agree with these statements:

 

1. [+1,785, -130] From Jo Kwon's perspective, I can see how this must suck for him... I'm sure the truth will come out but if what he's saying is true, it's going to be hard for him for a while... Not sure about the rest but I'm sure Jo Kwon really worked hard in school. Find strength!!

 

1. [+13,923, -285] It does seem like there are parts to this scandal that is unfair to Jo Kwon. All these celebrities keep getting pinpointed by the media but one of the attention is on how rotten the school is but more on ruining the image of the celebrities.

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It really falls onto the university's shoulders to take responsibility for this. I'm surprised to see a lot of comments going for the schools, it always seems like they've gone straight for the idols in question in the past. I wonder if it's because Jo Kwon has a generally good reputation or if knets as a whole are directing their frustration onto the schools now instead.

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It really falls onto the university's shoulders to take responsibility for this. I'm surprised to see a lot of comments going for the schools, it always seems like they've gone straight for the idols in question in the past. I wonder if it's because Jo Kwon has a generally good reputation or if knets as a whole are directing their frustration onto the schools now instead.

Hopefully, they are seeing that the university has no standards and that's a problem unless they have a case by case evaluation for each student, celeb or nonceleb, to see if they qualify to enter the school or receive a diploma.

 

This is two cases from the same university

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I'm happy the comments are "positive" because I think the same, the university is the one that has to take responsibility not him.... 

 

 

 

 

1. [+1,785, -130] From Jo Kwon's perspective, I can see how this must suck for him... I'm sure the truth will come out but if what he's saying is true, it's going to be hard for him for a while... Not sure about the rest but I'm sure Jo Kwon really worked hard in school. Find strength!!

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but the question still remains is the individual at the middle of this Jo Kwon or not? So much unknown...I really don't get what 'rep' would be saying this right now...  

 

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And it would be beyond hasty to talk about rescinding degrees until the full story is out. theres still more questions than answers. 

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3. [+952, -75] I knew there were too many stars with master's and doctorate degrees. How can they be deserving of these degrees when they've never even put out a thesis? Why are there so many comments supporting him when he should be getting into school on his own merit? All he's done is shatter the hopes of students actually deserving of these degrees. Please return your degree and take the punishment that's due.

 

you know there are Master's program that allow you the option to do a thesis or non-thesis program, right? The non-thesis Master's program just has you take a really long comprehensive exam at the end (the one where your grade is entirely dependent on that one exam). 

 

 

 

3. [+144, -7] What Jo Kwon's saying is that there were never any rules and he was never notified about his thesis. If it's true, then yeah, it sucks for him. It's obvious even with Jung Yonghwa's scandal that there's no rule to follow in this school. Even the professor went to interview Jung Yonghwa personally... If there were rules set in place for these things, none of this would've happened. It's wrong to accuse him of breaking rules that never existed.

 

4. [+131, -9] The one that's in the wrong here is Kyunghee University. Not that I'm saying Jo Kwon did anything right but we need to get to the root of the issue and it seems like the school and their professors are the bigger issue here. It feels wrong to put all the blame on the celebrities instead.

 

I mean honestly.

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This happens in every country. In most countries, when parents are rich, they can bribe the universities and get their kids a spot easily. Same thing in Korea, rich kids also get free entries and advantages, and it's also a way for celebrities (who are also rich) to delay military service.

Universities from all over the world should stop this kind of thing, but corruption has always existed and will always exist.

 

What Jo Kwon did was wrong because some people worked really hard to get into those universities and get this kind of degree. But he is not the only one. How many other idols, actors, variety people are into this? How many rich kids? 

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It really falls onto the university's shoulders to take responsibility for this. I'm surprised to see a lot of comments going for the schools, it always seems like they've gone straight for the idols in question in the past. I wonder if it's because Jo Kwon has a generally good reputation or if knets as a whole are directing their frustration onto the schools now instead.

 

It's pretty much this. He has a good image of a hard worker so people leave him the benefit of the doubt. Besides, the scandal is that he alledgedly didn't write a proper thesis (but recorded it) meanwhile Jung Yonghwa's scandal is that he got into the school without even passing an interview through special treatment so it's worse (especially since Choi Soon Shil's  daughter Jung Yoora who had the same scandal showed up to her interview). Moreover, Yonghwa already had a bad image with his stock scandal so people lashed on him right away.

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This happens in every country. In most countries, when parents are rich, they can bribe the universities and get their kids a spot easily. Same thing in Korea, rich kids also get free entries and advantages, and it's also a way for celebrities (who are also rich) to delay military service.

Universities from all over the world should stop this kind of thing, but corruption has always existed and will always exist.

 

What Jo Kwon did was wrong because some people worked really hard to get into those universities and get this kind of degree. But he is not the only one. How many other idols, actors, variety people are into this? How many rich kids? 

I don't see what he did wrong? He did a non-thesis and was told what to do and followed what he was given by the school.

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