Which male idols do you think are gay?

[miwa201]

Anyone else see this?

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fmr64HnPtc

 

Not to be a super delulu shipper but it's almost too convincing that if not Jimin, jungkook is boning someone lol

No offense but this belongs more in the Jikook thread than here.

 

I watched half of the video and I wasn't that convinced. The door closing pretty quickly after V left is pretty weird though. Although if V was aware that Jimin was there he would have definitely just left because it would have been too risky if, as the video presumes, it was a compromising situation.

[miwa201]

About that jikook video, I saw that earlier and just assumed it was a big stretch - i thought it was probably just staff there (because there was definitely someone else there), they're usually around for the vlives so it wouldn't be weird. But thinking about it again i'm not so sure anymore??

 

The thing is that tae going to kook's room definitely wasn't planned, he started the show without a concept and just took suggestions from the comments and one was attacking the members rooms and i doubt the staff had enough time to go to kook's room before tae got there and jungkook wasn't dressed either..so that's discarded. The thing is tae did text kook but only to ask him his room number, that's why he looks so out of it

 

The end wasnt weird though. He was shocked because he left his keys inside his room. That's all

 

anyways still a mess lmao

Maybe Jungkook was jerking off. 

[miwa201]

with someone else in the room? 

You got me there. 

[miwa201]

not Lee Joon being open about also liking men again

 

even though he "corrected" himself later and changed his answer to seem as if he was only talking about admiration, his original statement says a lot (especially coming from somebody who already said he had both boyfriends and girlfriends in the past)

 

 

speaking of Nam Joo Hyuk

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are him and Joon-Gi holding hands in this photo? 

 

 

 

everybody on the right corner pings

 

On a related note Lee Junki pings me too.

[miwa201]

For the love of god, what is wrong with JB?

 

At this point this kind of no homo-ness is just suspicious. He's either homophobic as hell or he's not as straight as he's trying to look.

[miwa201]

I definitely agree it's a lot easier to hide a relationship between two idols of the same gender than a heterosexual couple. Not just in Korea but in general straight people default everyone to being straight. It's why it's so easy to live in the glass closet because people will write off basically everything as friendships. (Look at how many lgbt celebs are in relationships and the press still refers to them as their roommate, gal pal, etc.), You could be living for years with your partner but attach the word "roommate" and most people stop questioning it to much.

 

That said, I don't think any of the companies actively seek out gay idols or are ok with them dating. Especially within the same company/group. Whatever happened between Jonghyun and Key had a huge impact on Shinee for months and I remember people being afraid they would disband. 

 

And it's only a matter of time before a news source decides to out a gay couple to make a name for themselves. There has been a increase in blind items floating around the different media sources knowing about a gay couple and considering outing them.

 

This is probably me being paranoid but it does make me nervous about BTS. They're not from a big 3 company, their success has blown up and I'm afraid the big 3 will try to bring them down anyway they can (release informations / encouraging the tabloids to publish information like this against them included)

No offense as I'm also a BTS fan but these "big 3 is trying to take down BTS at all costs!!1!!" conspiracy theories are just embarrassing.

[miwa201]

I feel like if a gay couple were to be outed then it would have happened by now. But idk.

[miwa201]

Does anyone else get the feeling that maybe some actually have, or have come close to it, but heteronormativity made everyone brush it off as just joking around/being affectionate with friends? Like Gunhee and Heechul - there are still people who believe Heechul is straight, incredibly enough. Until someone says outright "I'm gay", people are still going to refuse to see it. (And even then, there will be the "mistranslation!!!!" and "gay means happy too" people surfacing, like they always do)

 

If any news source does out someone for real, it'll probably be an international one. 

Well, I think Heechul/Gunhee is different from what we're talking about rn. They weren't outed, so to speak, by Dispatch or a news source. The main source of their interactions comes from Instagram which is user created content. I'm trying to think of examples that could fit what you're saying, idk, didn't Dispatch once pap pics of Kai and Taemin? Or am I remembering this wrong?

[miwa201]

my two cents about the recent speculation:

1. Vhope did not kiss, but it wasn't a water bottle sound either, imo. They aren't going to kiss on a live broadcast randomly like that,  that would be ridiculous to do, no idol would dare do that during a live broadcast- at least not on purpose, unless it was for a game. It's too risky and illogical for that to have happened. 

 

2. VHope is still suspicious to me because of the change in their dynamic. They used to be among the closest, just had such a close, affectionate relationship. Taehyung used to look at Hoseok like he was the fucking sun. Then something changed and they became noticeably awkward and distant, and eventually become less close. Now I'd say Tae is the the most wary/cautious/careful around Hoseok. It's very noticeable, although they seem to be doing a lot better together recently, it's obvious that something happened and really affected whatever they used to have together. 

 

Don't get me wrong, all of BTS are very close and like family, but the change in VHope's affection, dynamic, and interactions was almost painfully obvious bc even now, Taehyung looks sort of careful around Hoseok. I'm not saying they are not close because they are, but there's a noticeable difference from then, to now. 

 

It's like even though they are still close and good around, both of them seem more careful and cautious around one another and I'm not sure why that happened. 

 

I don't ship really, I guess I ship some as brotps (VMin, NamJin, TaeJin, and so on) but despite not being a shipper, I really do feel like certain BTS ships are suspicious 

 

Like, I don't personally believe they are actually dating, but looking at facts, events, dynamics, etc. I really feel suspicious of some ships, and VHope is one of them. I'm not saying they are dating, or that they have dated, but I do find that change in dynamic between them....pretty odd? 

 

And the way they handled those kisses before (waaaaay back), at least from one of the two members, told a lot. 

 

Jihope are not really suspicious, mostly since they are both so excessive with their skinship.

 both of them are the most into skinship and fanservice even with all the other members. So them being so extra touchy with each other is no surprise since they are both very clingy, touchy with all the members. 

It's like putting two koalas together. They are clingy with anything, but together, they're the clingiest, since they're naturally clingy. 

It's like VMin. They're platonic but do so much skinship, because they are both very touchy naturally. Same for JiHope. 

 

But like....just sometimes it honestly seems to cross a line with them compared to the rest of BTS. I don't want to write a fanfiction but the thought has crossed my mind that they've been in some sort of physical...experience? together. I don't think they are dating but I would NOT be surprised to find out they were somewhat involved in some way, but then again I'm just overanalyzing everything. 

 

It doesn't help my delusion that both of them ping me the most in BTS along with Taehyung. 

 

My thoughts about Jimin and Hoseok are always funky, bc on one hand, they are so gay that I can't imagine them not being gay, and yet at the same time there's a part of me that could see them being very very straight....but there's also something so...gay....about them. They confuse me more than anyoen in BTS except maybe Namjoon. 

 

BTS as a whole are very confusing to me. Except for Taehyung, Suga, and the Antichrist. 

jw which other ships are you suspicious of? bc I can only think of Vhope and Jikook as being suspicious to me,

[miwa201]

 

i must disagree

 

the king of gays is a very special place and i think heechul has already established himself as the king

 

but i can see suga as the prince

 

 

What about Jo Kwon? Is he the emperor?

[miwa201]

I never posted here before nor am I a bts stan and know anything really about them (i'm mostly follow ggs). I sort of suspected some of them might be gay but I was sort of second guessing bc I keep hearing them getting shipped with every girl group out there. But today, after seeing the comeback interviews with them and twice and rv, something about it made think that quite a few of them might be gay actually. I seen the way that many other bgs act around twice and rv. With bts, it just different, they just didn't seem to care much. It was atypical to me, that's all. But I'm not going to claim they def are since it could be that they all just are friendly bc they've been promoting together so much.

You shouldn't take those kind of interviews seriously though. I'm not saying they're all straight (I've commented about bts several times here) but the reason why they were both standoffish is because of the fans who go crazy when boy groups and girl groups interact in any way (see ISAC this year or why twice and got7 don't have many interactions). It happened in the past too with other bgs and ggs, you know how fans get.

Edited February 24, 2017 by miwa201

[miwa201]

Probably to stop the delusional fans from thinking they're going to date/marry him.

 

Yep, those two answers are probably to find a medium between appeasing fans and not catering to their delusional fantasies (30 years later lmao...). Wouldn't think too much of it, god knows fansign questions are incredibly annoying. The good person answer is nice though.

[miwa201]

OT but

 

 

http://parkjizzmin.tumblr.com/post/152080262485/this-video-literally-breaks-my-heart-yoongi

 

out of curiousity this is weird, anybody have any ideas why? Why did Jimin point to the camera when Yoongi wanted to dance with him, why would it have mattered. Yoongi looked sad after,  Idk just weird asf

 

lol tinhatters.

 

Like someone already said, Jimin probably pointed out to Yoongi that his back was facing the fans. I don't think it's about the camera precisely, but rather the fans as it seems they were all dancing facing them. I think Jimin was pointing to the fans, not the camera. And Yoongi doesn't look sad lol.

[miwa201]

There are actually 3 roles we gays use tho, bottom, vers and top.

 

The only problem I have with this is how us bottoms are treated as the lowest tier simply because bottoming is seen as the submissive and thus "effeminate" role.

Yep, that's why usually fandom characterizes the smaller, androgynous if possible idol in a ship as the bottom. I legit saw an argument on twitter where someone was adamant that rap monster couldn't be a bottom bc he's tall (?).

 

These kind of "discussions" (can you even call them that? I don't think there's any way for us to know if possibly gay idols are bottoms, tops or switches) are irrelevant to this thread imo

[miwa201]

The only groups I know well enough to analyze are BTS, and EXO, so I'm going to focus on them for now. I could be way off base. Please bear with me lmao.

 

Straight:

 

Rap Monster - Ally. Very clearly attracted to women. Comfortable enough with his sexuality that he's never had a 'no homo' moment. His interactions with his members and other guys have always seemed very friendly and brotherly to me.

 

V - For years I thought he was gay, or at the very least bi, but sifting through everything now, I think he's probably straight. I can't really describe it any better than he's a straight boy with a fascination for cute things. Members, animals, babies, etc. The vkook ship used to ping me like nothing had ever pinged me before, but looking back on it, I think he just saw Jungkook like the shy baby maknae, and he was very nurturing towards him because of that. I feel crazy for typing this because I used to think he was 100% without a shadow of a doubt, gay, but I guess I've changed my mind ... for now.

 

Jin - Straighter than an arrow. Perhaps the straightest member in his group.

 

Suho - See above.

 

Chanyeol - Ally. Is in love with every YG female ever to exist.

 

Chen - Very traditionally straight. And I think he has a girlfriend.

 

Lay - His brief 'no homo' moment sealed him as straight for me. But he also kissed Sehun on the lips during that one Chinese variety show way back when, so he's probably more comfortable with his sexuality than people think.

 

Xiumin - To be honest, I feel like he might be asexual. He kinda just bounces around and does whatever, doesn't really show any sort of emotion or attraction towards either men or women. But if I had to choose, I'd say he's probably straight.

 

Bi:

 

Jungkook - To me he's more bicurious. It's going to take a couple more years before I can get a proper read on him. I am leaning more towards straight, though. If he is straight, he's very comfortable and open with men regardless. It could be the cute maknae side of him, or it could be his curiosity poking through. It's still too soon to tell. The way he was watching the Seventeen and GFRIEND stage at the MAMA's this year, for me that kind of sealed his attraction towards women. The smirk, the posture. He was clowning them in his head, but also lowkey wishing he could replace Mingyu in that one section lmao.

 

Suga - Those Cypher Pt. 3 lyrics say it all, no? As you know my voice will turn you on; Whether it's guy or girl, my tongue will make you come. Beyond that, he's very obviously and fiercely attracted to Park Jimin. No one will ever convince me otherwise lmao.

 

Kai - We definitely know now that he's interested in women, and I feel like even if he ignores it, he has shown attraction for men, as well. He seems very comfortable with his bisexuality. Not only attracted to men and women, but also willing to pursue a romantic relationship with either or and everyone who falls in between.

 

 

Gay:

 

Jimin - I can't think of any specific moments.

 

J-Hope - To me he's gay ... and probably forever in the closet. I can't describe it any better than that.

 

D.O - This one doesn't really need explaining ... but yeah, just by the way he interacts with his members and what not, it makes sense. Oh and this could just be some bullshit, but Edward Avila (an SK-based beauty YouTuber) knows someone at SM who is really close to D.O. A staff member, not an idol. I'm not saying that just because Edward's gay that all his friends and his friends' friends are gay, too, but he seemed really hush hush in the video where it was mentioned, which is very uncharacteristic of him. Something about it reallllllly pinged me. You can also throw in any and every Kai and D.O interaction since the dawn of time lmao. D.O has always had a soft spot for him. Whether it's friendship or a crush, it's blatantly clear that he feels some type of special way for Kai.

 

Sehun - He seems very open and comfortable with his sexuality. Sometimes I wonder if he's just a straight ally, but then I catch moments of him in random videos and it all just falls back into place again. To me he's a no brainer. Also HunHan.

I agree that taehyung is attracted to women but I can't see him being totally straight. I keep coming back to his solo song, how vague it is and that rm didn't talk much about it. Stigma is also often associated with homosexuality so maybe it's not just a coincidence. But idk

 

As a yoongi stan I fail to see this "obvious and fierce" attraction to jimin lmao, to me everything about his interactions to jimin scream older brother (esp considering how he helped jimin out when he first got into big hit), hence why he constantly hypes him up. I'd sooner see it with hoseok or even Jin.

 

I actually disagree with hoseok being in the closet. Idk he doesn't strike me like the type to be stuck in the closet.

 

Random but I only followed exo up until wolf and I never got the fuss over hunhan.

[miwa201]

 

and i agree about yoongi, lol. i've always kind of felt like jimin is one of the members of bts he actually has the least chemistry with. recently, i wouldn't be surprised if he picked up where tae left off with regards to having feelings for hoseok

 

 

 

 

i agree with jin, but didn't suho have a boyfriend for a while? i put him down as bi in my book. and i've never seen jimin as anything but straight, even though a lot of people seem to feel otherwise

I'm glad someone agrees as yoonmin is very popular and for the life of me I never got it. Their predebut tweets were textbook fan service to me. Jimin strikes me as someone very savvy when it comes to fan service (including ships).

 

But tbh I once said that I'd sooner believe yoongi was straight than jimin. Would you mind elaborating on jimin not being into guys at all?

[miwa201]

 

 

 

sorry i didn't see this! orz

 

the thing with jimin is that, like you said, i feel like he's very savvy about fanservice and knowing how to play it up. i guess for that reason i kind of shrug off most of what he does that people consider questionable—for example, i can't imagine him and taehyung as anything more than best bros, and when it comes to jungkook it seems to me as playing up what he knows people want to see. like in the most recent run bts episode, where he comes onto jungkook and blatantly flirts with him, or in that fanmeet video where he "kissed" jungkook's neck (to me it looked more like he kissed his own hand but i could be wrong), those come off to me as very pandered to the audience. and there's nothing wrote with that, literally all idols do it! but i feel like he has a very cultivated image of himself around this kind of behaviour that doesn't really seem to me as indicating any real attraction

Oh yeah, I completely agree in terms of jimin being savvy. I always thought he was born to be an idol because he's so good at things like fan service and appealing to fans (taehyung too) which I wouldn't say for yoongi, namjoon or even jungkook. Still I do think he's attracted to men, but who knows.

[miwa201]

When he said it was awesome he was talking about the movie he saw with his father and little sister "Split"

 

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I just watched the clip now and he said: "I watched moonlight today. Yeah, it was awesome".

[miwa201]

ships sehun with kyungsoo and reads pr0n fanfiction about them but she looked so upset when she said that

Ugh those are the worst kind of people. God forbid oppa is actually gay irl or might not be fucking the person they're shipped with. 

[miwa201]

Am I the only one who doesn't notice much?

 

Tae and J Hope's relationship has definitely changed (for reasons that have been discussed here many times), and you say for RM and Jimin nothing is different but I don't see anything different between his relationship with Suga, Jin, and Jungkook? They behave how they always do around each other, other than the whole 'taekook' thing being much less active nowadays. I really don't notice anything different.

 

Am I the only one who doesn't notice much?

 

Tae and J Hope's relationship has definitely changed (for reasons that have been discussed here many times), and you say for RM and Jimin nothing is different but I don't see anything different between his relationship with Suga, Jin, and Jungkook? They behave how they always do around each other, other than the whole 'taekook' thing being much less active nowadays. I really don't notice anything different.

I completely agree, I see nothing weird or awkward about Taehyung and the others. Taehyung and Jimin are still super close. I think people are maybe hyperaware of Stigma and thus may see something that's not there.

Edited March 15, 2017 by miwa201

[miwa201]

I think I'm too sensitive when people label others as being an ally for doing small stuff. This really isn't a hill I want to die on, so I'll back down.

 

But, you're right, a movie isn't just a movie, that was a wrong way of phrasing things. Just, I feel, that straight people watching queer content shouldn't get accolades for doing so. It's tiresome.

I agree. This is not actually about Namjoon (as I do think he's at least an ally), but sometimes straight people have no problems consuming gay media yet they're not exactly supportive of actual gay people.

[miwa201]

 

saw this on Twitter LMAOOO, do y'all.agree?

Swap Yoongi and Jonghyun and I'd agree (who's that beneath Yoongi btw?). I wasn't sure about Jonghyun as I don't follow him/Shinee that much but after reading some of the posts here I'd say he's more gay than bisexual.

[miwa201]

Jinwoo always seemed gay to me and I thought he was into mino for a bit.

[miwa201]

I feel like iKON is the least homo boy group in KPop, no? 

 

doesn't say much in KPop lmao, but hey...idk just an observation. Or at least has the biggest ratio of guys I'm certain of their heterosexuality 

 

Bobby, Donghyuk, Chanwoo, Junhoe and Yoyo are all pretty damn str8

 

 

Jinhwan and Hanbin ping me even tho the latter is only gay for Jinhwan, but he's super touchy with him so idk

I remember someone saying here once that Hanbin's stage name is BI bc he's bi lmao. He's pretty touchy and it does seem like he could be attracted to Jinhwan but I wouldn't really know (side note, BI/Bobby is such a bro-ship to me).

[miwa201]

Tbh at this point I'm pretty convinced they're dating