Which male idols do you think are gay?

[Chika Chika]

1 hour ago, oh my dora said:

i'm hearing someone's trying to defame seoham as well with similar bullying and smoking accusations. their popularity really got some people mad huh

I don't know if you know this yet but South Korean Government has an official insta page and they liked a pic of the recent photoshoot of Seoham and Jaechan. 

People noticed it. I think someone said that they quickly unliked it but some people later saw that the like was still there. 

Also everyone knows that these accusations will show up on twitter and then vanish. It's just weird that people will show up out of nowhere. 

[Chika Chika]

3 hours ago, Baby_Lion said:

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* Does everyone know Yoo Ah-in and Park Bogum are gay ? I knew it a few years ago haha.    
 * Park Bogum ? Do you hear it from the Reddit comment or other rumors ?       
* Hahaha... That’s the Samsung’s Hospital registry. I didn’t hear it, I saw it. 

I found this on Youtube, under Yoo Ah In and his rumor boyfriend analysis video.

Which related to this rumor happened 2 months after Song-Song’s case, coincidentally Park Bogum was mentioned. The girl who spread this on Twitter/Weibo apologized for false accusation and deleted right away but still ...                                    

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 Trans: My brother’s friend is a nurse, a male celebrity anus ruptured and he came to their emergency room.

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 Trans: Hello. Two days ago, I spread false facts about actor Park Bo-gum without any evidence. I'm really sorry to Park Bo-gum and the fans for this. Because of me, there were people who knew nothing about Park Bo-gum and went there knowing that the rumors about Park Bo-gum were true, and Park Bo-gum's fans were very uncomfortable. At first, I just ignored the comments about what I posted, then read all the mentions and DMs from Park Bo-gum fans who sent me, and just ignoring them is not what I should do in the current situation, it’s the action I need to apologize and fix. found out that The article I posted was only about 'Kathera' I heard from an acquaintance. In the future, I will not post comments that slander others without any evidence, and I will be careful of my words and actions on social media where everyone can see it publicly. We apologize again to those who have been affected by this incident.

We have seen so many people making these kind of statements when it comes to Bogum. Most of these comments are by Korean people and there is a translation barrier.

I wonder how many more of 'I saw this celebrity at a gay bar with his boyfriend---' is out there on Korean gossip sites that we have no clue about. 

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[Chika Chika]

2 hours ago, Josaline said:

You sent 24 messages from my first message to the one I said you could quote me, I only quoted you 3 (the last one was just a gif quote, not even a message) times. So stop your fairy tale named 'youre constantly quoting me'

So what if I sent 24 messages? What are you trying to prove? Where are you trying to get at with this now? You're trying to say that I sent 24 messages and you only quoted me in three? That is so weird cause the first time you quoted me itself a lot of people came forward and spoke to you about it? Why are you not addressing those other messages people sent to you? Why did you still choose to dismiss us even after that?

I never quoted you in any of my semantic error discussion messages. I wasn't even talking to you in any of my posts. I started replying to you when you exclusively came forward and told me to do so and also, I was talking to everyone else who were replying to me. Why are you getting bent out of shape when I am talking and replying to others? You're acting like I quoted you in all of my 24 messages when the only thing I was doing is IGNORING you until you kept dismissing our opinions and discrediting them. 

When you quoted me the first time, questioning us, everyone else came forward and said this thread is an okay place to talk about it and THAT is when you should've just stopped, but you clearly didn't. 

I never said I had a problem with you quoting me. It was you who brought up the questing thing in the first place. Several others do on a daily basis. I have a problem with you quoting me only to hinder and police discussions and act like you have some exclusive right to make decisions on what should and should not be discussed here.

The fact that you asked me and several others 'Why are they being discussed here' and SO MANY explained and you still thought it's okay to do it twice again--- The only thing you came up with is 'If you would've replied to me the first time it wouldn't have come this far' which is plain dumb and sounds like a poorly crafted excuse because didn't so many already clarify with you the very first time itself? Did you not see all their messages? Did you just choose to ignore all of them? 

You're making me repeat things and choosing to ignore valid points I am making. I am pretty sure others are as tired as I am cause you're not willing to accept that You're purposely skirting around the real reason we are upset. You're not willing to accept that you did police us and tried to put an end to a discussion that clearly everyone else didn't have any problem with. The fact that you tried to shut our discussion down only because YOU felt, is where we are upset and you kept doing it even when people explained it it the nicest way possible at the time. You dismissed our opinions making us feel unwelcome here to be speculating. You overlooked all the others telling you it is okay for Soeham and Jaechan to be discussed here. You overlooked all the other credible info we brought.

You're trying too hard to miss the point. 

All you talk about is 

'Quoting this and Quoting that'  

'I quoted you only thrice and you sent 24 messages' and that is NOT where the problem lies. You questioning people and acting entitled, asking why are we discussing it here is where the problem is and you're not willing to address it. I know you will reply with something else and honestly it just feels like you're making excuses only to act like you're on the right. 

I said it before as well, If you would take part in the discussion and say 'I don't find Soeham or Jaechan sus like the way you'll do' that too is fine cause everyone does not have to see things the way I see them but out rightly coming at us and saying 'why are we discussing them and their chemistry/friendship here' and 'why we are talking about them on this thread', time and again saying 'he is doing his job/fanservice' especially when he said so many valid things is plain disrespectful.

I hope you stop quoting and replying to me now cause just some posts ago you yourself said that 'It's not going to be my business anymore' I also request you to not police and not shut down discussions that others are really interested and taking part in. 

I also want to tell you and everyone, this is the reason I was ignoring to quote you cause I knew it would only spiral to this, only thing I didn't know is how purposefully clueless and ignorant you're trying to be with the things you yourself said and did.

 

 

[Chika Chika]

42 minutes ago, themistoo said:

I love how this thread is becoming just people having personal drama started over gay rumors lol. It has that stan twitter feel to it.

 

Ok jokes(jokes?) aside Jaechan and Seoham are kind of interesting. I think some people here (and everywhere) have some kind of moral elitism and are ready to send you to hell and back if you dare to assume that any bl actor is gay. I guess it's bad because of what usually happens in other bl fandoms such as fans starting to ship the actors themselves and asking intrusive questions about their sexualities. (Do any of you here know what(who) offgun is? Wow. I mean yeah the bl industry is crazy, they literally have a career built on people shipping them.)

That's reasonable. I get that I guess. It does make me think some are projecting but really ig it's understandable.

However the difference here is, we don't think they might be gay because of THE ROLES, but because they said and done interesting things outside of that.

There is a very clear difference.

 

I think people like shipping Mew and Gulf more. About Offgun I think Off had a girlfriend for sometime and Gun had this whole controversy and I remember him being outed forcefully because of the controversy.

Edited March 17, 2022 by Chika Chika

[Chika Chika]

1 hour ago, oh my dora said:

i know offgun. most gmmtv ships have massive fandoms tbh (brightwin, ohmnanon, pondphuwin, taynew, kristsingto) and then outside of that there's mewgulf, ohmfluke, zeesaint, and i think perthsaint shippers still exist as well but i don't really follow any of them

yeah mewgulf definitely has a huge fandom and a lot of them harassed gulf's girlfriend and i think the mewart situation started resurfacing too. they're both doing music now and i think people are paying for gulf's concerts which is.. nice of them i guess.

 

if you want a laugh here you go

i think they're pretty on par with brightwin

LMAO. What the hell was that? That singing/rapping was so awful. LMAO. What language was that even? He is just saying what ever he wants and I used to think I was a bad singer. 

Who the hell told him he can sing?

Like seriously. 

Edited March 17, 2022 by Chika Chika

[Chika Chika]

7 hours ago, Josaline said:

Look, it looks like you have some problems. This is my last message to you. At first I just asked you a few questions, you didn't answer me, a few others gave their own point of view. I did not answer any of you, I expected an answer from you, but it did not come. Then I replied to someone else who quoted me. I didn't interrupt your talks, I didn't say anything to you after my first message. Then a few pages went by, and when you and a few of your friends started to mention me implicitly, I wrote to you once again, telling you that you could quote me. Thats it. Anyone can see them by looking back a few pages. I have nothing against Semantic Error, in fact I was the first to bring news about this show and others to this thread. I wanted to bring this up because I felt that the lead actors were fetishized. Of course, the individual evidence about the actors applies to this thread. But when acting like a shipper, it is not possible to take this things seriously. Accept it or not, that's the case for me. 

No, YOU are the one who has problems. Cause clearly you were the one trying to police people. 

You keep quoting me and asking me to quote you as well and now you're like 'This is my last message--' acting like you didn't start all of this.

7 hours ago, Josaline said:

At first I just asked you a few questions, you didn't answer me, a few others gave their own point of view. I did not answer any of you, I expected an answer from you, but it did not come.

Huh? That is exactly my question to you, why didn't you answer to SO many others when they told you that this thread is welcome for that kind of discussion? Why did you not reply to them? I didn't reply to you cause several others already did. why are you not understanding that? Why did you find an absolute need for only me to reply to you. Why do you feel the need to be told the same things over and over again? Why did you choose to ignore them is my question?

Also stop acting like 'you asked me a few questions' and were taking part in the discussion. You were clearly trying to shut us down by asking why did we bring that discussion to the thread.

Stop with you excuse of 'I was waiting an answer from you'. It sounds like an excuse.

7 hours ago, Josaline said:

Then a few pages went by, and when you and a few of your friends started to mention me implicitly, I wrote to you once again, telling you that you could quote me.

Wrong. You did not 'Once again tell me that I could quote you'. Your second message was 'He's doing his job' That is when I ranted about it and that too was not completely directed towards you, like the way you like to think. We were discussing and it was you who jumped in and said 'He is doing his job'. Also if a group of people are disagreeing with you it doesn't make it 'me and my friends' None of them are my friends. You're just not willing to see what you did here and why people are disagreeing with you. 

7 hours ago, Josaline said:

But when acting like a shipper

I went back a few pages and saw that you had several back and fourth arguments with two other members on this forum one of them being @dododododododo calling her an anti. and one other member here over the past two weeks giving me an indication that you feel the need to police people and just name call them 'anti' and now us who spoke about JC and SH we are being called 'shippers' 

You police and question and discredit valid discussions and then when someone speaks up you play the victim and name call 'shipper' 'anti' and say things like 'I will block you, I will ignore you' like as if you weren't the person to start things in the first place. Be careful if you start policing everyone and then you'll have to start blocking/ignoring everyone here. The only person you'll be replying to is yourself. 

Also, please do me a favor and not quote me again.

 

 

Edited March 18, 2022 by Chika Chika

[Chika Chika]

1 hour ago, themistoo said:

Offtopic but thai actors really should stay at acting because music clearly isn't their field. Singto, Gulf, that horrible group that the 2moons2 cast did... oh god. I'm traumatised.

 

But yeah that what I meant, the fandom of the actors as a couple is lowkey bigger than the fandom of the character they play. It's crazy. Mewgulf is a weird thing. I genuine think Mew might have had a crush on him but I'm glad they do their own thing now.

Ngl I don't mind shippers usually if they do know that their ship is most likely not real, but that's the thing, the majority of people in the thai bl fandom do think those actors doing obvious fanservice are actually dating.

I mean offgun has so much 'caught on camera totally not supposed to be filmed' moments but it was obviously meant to be filmed. 

With that said at least now they're getting more serious roles too which is good to see because Gun's talent felt a bit wasted.

Mew had such allegations before too with Art. The fanservice in Thai actors is just over the top it looks forced and they just look uncomfortable.

I agree Gun is a good actor when compared to the other bl actors. I like watching bl's but some thai bl's, I feel like the actors just can't act so yeah Gun kind of stands out among all of this.

[Chika Chika]

14 minutes ago, OptimusPremier said:

Jimin and Sungwoon getting jikookers pressed enough to come out of the dark, their power

also this is hilarious, after hearing Jimin's outing with that guy is more "sus" than his friendship with Sungwoon:

 

Yes, he had a different name when signing up for produce I also want to tell you that he became famous on the show for his nose. The audience/ judges saw his face on the screen and went . The literally asked him 'Is that your real nose?' and he punched his nose and showed them that he never got anything done on his nose and they liked his visuals. I never found Saeon sus only because we never even had anything of his in the first place. It is with 'Light On Me' that he got famous and now people atleast have some source material to be looking at. Even at produce he didn't have a lot of screen time.

Is sungwoon discussed here frequently?

[Chika Chika]

6 hours ago, shineestan said:

Seoham... do you need a shovel to dig faster or....

Dude full on sized up every part . slim muscles 'here and there'. 

Where and where I want to know.

[Chika Chika]

3 minutes ago, M814 said:

Not to be petty either but I saw the exact same comment on allkpop too 

I stopped visiting allkpop long ago? Is anything nice there?

 

[Chika Chika]

1 hour ago, dododododododo said:

Update: after much deliberation the committee has decided that anal prolapse is ACCEPTABLE

Please, we know there is no committee and they can't decide nothing. We know the 'You know who' makes decisions here.

[This is just a joke]

[Chika Chika]

7 hours ago, Taecoholic said:

Didn't she blocked you? She can't see the messages you send here or you can't send DM's to her.

I don't think you can block people here. I tried and I didn't find a block/ignore option.

[Chika Chika]

San's name is so often mentioned here, I would like to hear from people who mentioned him why do they feel he is sus. Are there any particular receipts that people find interesting? 

[Chika Chika]

On 3/19/2022 at 1:42 PM, Eremit said:

doesn't apply in the case of same sex idols who can (and do) hang out literally all the time without raising eyebrows. Aside from the shippers obvs, but then the shippers get excited if they post pics in matching time stamps so they don't count.

Yes, I agree with you. Two male Kpop idols could be dating and walking around in public holding hands and everyone would be like 'they have such a nice friendship'.

[Chika Chika]

However, Isn't it weird that Jimin is hanging out with all Sungwoon's friends and makes it a point to get to know them and interact with them. Sungwoon must be really close to him for him to really be taking so much interest in his friends. BTS are pretty busy these days. Didn't they even have a few concerts these days. I don't know how to analyze this. Like someone else on this thread pointed out. All of his friends like Lee Saeon and a few others are now Jimin's friends cause of Sungwoon.

Edited March 23, 2022 by Chika Chika

[Chika Chika]

12 hours ago, dododododododo said:

How do you know either of them are making a point of it? It’s not unusual to make friends through other friends lol, I think that’s how those two met in the first place 

Yes, that too is correct. At this point we don't know anything. 

[Chika Chika]

4 hours ago, oh my dora said:

finally OH is back for me to say that i'm learning so much about seoham. i didn't realise this was also him

 

Yes, his predebut appearance in a music video was basically girls simping for him but he has a boyfriend. 

also I wanted to post this here for you since you're the only one who might be interested. Saw this weeks ago but was very conflicted if I can post it here cause-- you know why, I wanted to DM it to you but anyway here it is- 

 

This was during their break time while they were shooting and one of the staff saw them and she was like 'what are you both doing?'

I think this is a recent vlive where Jaechan was wearing another hoodie that belongs to Soeham he says 'oh this hoodie, I took it---secretly. I am going to wear it. I forgot to give it back.' 

Also most of the comments are in Korean most of the Korean people have some really interesting gossip happening in the comment section. Koreans did a little digging and found out that Soeham and Jaechan went to Jeju for 3 days 4 nights.

 

Edited March 25, 2022 by Chika Chika

[Chika Chika]

17 minutes ago, chargerdine said:

I’ve never gotten the Kai and Yeonjun speculations. They’re just very good at being idols and knowing what is expected of them. Particularly Yeonjun. 

I feel the same about Yeonjun. 

[Chika Chika]

16 hours ago, realdefdanik said:

yeah, they indeed went to jeju!! it's basically an open secret, since everyone knows and talks about it except the people involved kdjfdjfk i refrained from posting about these two for a while since i got clowned the last time i did it but i've been following the thread silently since then : > also, both their signatures are on display in jeju's shooting range but jaechan never mentions who he went with and is overall very vague when talking about his trip there lol. some interesting things happened in the vlive from this clip you linked too

spoilers in case this isn't your cup of tea:

 

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as seen in the video you linked, that hoodie really belongs to seoham. i don't think it would be weird if he clearly stated that, since we all know they share clothes frequently because they talked about this openly before...?

at some point two other members showed up at his stream and one of them (kyoungyoon) asked if jaechan knew that their hoodies were from the same brand. jaechan said he didn't know and started showing off his film camera to try and change the topic, but kinda failed since that camera most likely belongs to seoham as well (as jc & sh mentioned before that film cameras are a hobby they have in common) and he dodged all their questions on whether he bought the camera or not lol
 

and at some point he did a little "what's in my bag" segment (and one of the things he carries around is the perfume seoham gifted him on his birthday last december!!) BUT what i found really funny was that he showed a special kind of film and there and at this point you can probably already guess where he got it from....... but the funny part is that it was a gift seoham got from a fan that even tweeted about it lol
 

thankfully she doesn't mind it and is happy that he's sharing it with his friends!

 

 

You bring some really nice info here. I honestly didn't know any of this. It was very interesting to read.

Just found out that Soeham lives alone. I don't know what to do with this information but just saying.

[Chika Chika]

25 minutes ago, M814 said:

The "" reaction is getting more popular and I'm here for it

 is the new 

We went from clowns to thinkers 

Was gonna say the same thing but I'm here for it too. I think this is better in a way.

[Chika Chika]

1 hour ago, miwa201 said:

Total of 21 thinking reactions in this page alone lmao.

make it 24 now lmao

Edited March 27, 2022 by Chika Chika

[Chika Chika]

40 now. Strong going. 

[Chika Chika]

1 hour ago, oh my dora said:

any guesses?

I honestly can't think of anyone.

[Chika Chika]

8 hours ago, Kpop_fan178 said:

Idk who these people are but this is so cute. I need more tea.

 

France Kiss. XD

[Chika Chika]

4 hours ago, tomek said:

Shit on me, I don't care, but I still believe they're dating. lol

I do too honestly.