mikes1265 1,078 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 So far I'm 4 episodes into Roommate and I don't see anything really gay yet. Didn't one of them get outed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikes1265 1,078 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 It's difficult to judge since it's just one still image, but if I had to guess I'd say they were just fooling around, which isn't particularly abnormal. If I had to take a stab at what was going on it seems like Yoochun was trying to get revenge for whatever that is all over him One must remember that as "free" as Heechul seems these days, he's still under SM's thumb. The freedom he has comes with strings attached, and I wouldn't put it past SM to have him make comments that work to push SM's agenda. I can't figure out why, but it looks like SM wants people to think Baekhyun and Taeyeon are dating for real (I'm still leaning heavily towards fake. It's all too suspicious, and I never take SM's word at face value due to their history anyway). Heechul is known for not sugar coating things, so SM could easily use that to their advantage. I think they're trying to make it seem like they're just really good friends, but it's seriously not working lol The pics were from a long time ago, a bday party for Yoochun and they got cake on him and he jumped on Junsu. Mikey never seems gay but within that group, he would have been an ally. He always seemed protective of Yunjae and their relationship. Heechul is difficult to figure, one minute he has his bf on television with him and the next he's spouting SM propaganda I wish I could take the time to find his first Twitter post after the army where he talks a lot about Gunhee and I felt it was his coming out b 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikes1265 1,078 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 This reminded me of this: I love this clip, they got caught going out together. The way Yuhno tried to cover it up was suspicious, he could have just said Hero and I went to dinner. 'done' http://www.soompi.com/2014/06/26/no-min-woo-is-pretty-enough-to-be-rumored-as-choi-hong-mans-girlfriend/ Edit: omg http://onehallyu.com/index.php?/topic/80582-it-finally-happened-gunhee-and-heechul-kissing/ I was wondering when this would happen! lol wgm awesome kiss, you know Gunhee is probably more open to doing this than Heechul anyway. I'm sure Gunhee is more the aggressor for public affection. omg...this is one big joke i swear..LOL I feel like they're trying to see how far they can go and get away with it..cuz so far know one gives a damn and I think Hecchul&Gunhee are using this for their own comedy/show.. Does anyone know the excuse to why he kissed him? There has to be some kind of commentary on that if not then wow?? haha I'd love to know if the 'normal' public in Korea is even noticing that HeeChul has his bf with him all the time. @KarmaButterfly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikes1265 1,078 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 thought you guys would like this from HSC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikes1265 1,078 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Oh they do notice, for sure. Now since their brains cannot process and accept the information their eyes are providing them with, they just don't comment at all. You can clearly see on their faces that they not only find their interactions weird, but you can actually tell exactly what they're thinking but will never say aloud, even to each other. So in your opinion, GunHeeNim aren't getting away with anything? I think Hee has made it quite obvious and GunHee seems to be more out as gay, at least in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikes1265 1,078 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 They are getting away since they get people's minds reeling, but their mouths are still shut. But they're pushing it too far, Heechul's gotten even more overconfident than he already was because of his present position, which is a mistake. As for GunHee, he's even more stupid because he has nobody who'll take care of him if any situation arises, seen as he can't hurt any company's image. So in your opinion, you don't think HeeChul is a big enough star to 'come out'? I think Korea needs a couple like this to help open the door for others. If they stand their ground, they can be ok. At least thats how I look at it coming from an American point of view. You seem to think they are getting in deep waters? Is it as obvious in your mind they are a couple as it is in mine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikes1265 1,078 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 the best pic of all https://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;_ylt=AwrB8poXsa1TggkAy2iJzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTIzYzlqa2pvBHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDaW1nBG9pZANjZDFkNTI2OGYzMmRhMWI1NmE5NDQ0MTRkZDllNDQ1YwRncG9zAzYxBGl0A2Jpbmc-?back=https%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3Fp%3Dkim%2Bheechul%2Bgunhee%2Brumors%26_adv_prop%3Dimage%26va%3Dkim%2Bheechul%2Bgunhee%2Brumors%26fr%3Dyfp-t-250%26spos%3D12%26nost%3D1%26tab%3Dorganic%26ri%3D61&w=500&h=493&imgurl=25.media.tumblr.com%2F9253d4d35069d823727275a5c0d942fa%2Ftumblr_mso0obc1n51rtvu1po1_500.png&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fkayoforum.net%2Fthreads%2Fofficial-kim-heechul-thread.54%2F&size=386.2KB&name=Official+%3Cb%3EKim+Heechul+%3C%2Fb%3EThread&p=kim+heechul+gunhee+rumors&oid=cd1d5268f32da1b56a944414dd9e445c&fr2=&fr=yfp-t-250&tt=Official+%3Cb%3EKim+Heechul+%3C%2Fb%3EThread&b=60&ni=192&no=61&ts=&tab=organic&sigr=11sdauuei&sigb=154ci4pdt&sigi=12n4hmns1&sigt=11200t0fq&sign=11200t0fq&.crumb=4v82J6jXuzp&fr=yfp-t-250 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikes1265 1,078 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Definitely not. He's not a star, not anymore. He's a celebrity more known for his past and the things he says than for any achievements on his own, or his talent. When I mentioned his position I mean in SM. As you've said, you have an American point of view who is drastically different from ours. They barely have their heads out of the water now. And yes, it is. Oh it will affect him, big time. Do you think that if SM gets even a scratch partially because of him, he'll be free to go his way? I still think what they are doing is furthering the cause for gay rights in Korea, in a small but good way. I would hope that as popular as HeeChul is, that he could get away with 'coming out', but then again, I don't live there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikes1265 1,078 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 I agree it's helping, just not themselves. Heechul's not popular with the general public, he's known, which it's very different. Maybe he'll do it once his contract's over. Wouldn't surprise me. I am always glad to talk to you like this as I am from the US and from a state which has legal gay marriage. So our views of things are quite different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikes1265 1,078 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 If no one is willing to risk their career to come out as gay, or go into deep waters to hint on their gay relationship in korea, nothing is going to improve so what heechul and gunhee is doing , i hope they know what they are getting into risking their career like this but it is good for the gay community in korea to see this kind of things I definitely agree! They do seem to be pushing the envelope with every episode. I'm always wondering if the general public knows who GunHee is and why he's there. LOL Plus, the other SJ members seem to keep quiet on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikes1265 1,078 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 He reminds me of a character I've seen on a movie once, who after doing stupid things and having people stare at her shocked said "What? I'm pretty, not smart!" Hasn't he said that before? haha Heechul seems more timid in their public displays, Gunhee seems to push it more. I was thinking a few minutes ago, ''what did Heechul tell the producers?" how did they just write Gunhee in every episode? Is it that 'known' who he is and the producers went with it? It's unfortunate, but then honestly I think by this point they probably just don't care... Heechul's had a good run with his career (and lbr, while he still has a large fanbase, it probably isn't gonna get much bigger no matter what he does), he has good friends, a good boyfriend, he doesn't have to worry about military bullshit anymore.. I think maybe he's just like "fuck it" and is having fun lately trying to push the envelope as much as possible without completely breaking it Which admittedly isn't really the wisest thing to do, but when has our deal Heechul ever been wise? The last thing I would expect is for Heechul to do what we think he will do. Correct? He's been very out, twice that I can think of, once on Twitter with the 'two in a bed' pic and his writings on being happy to have found Gunhee, and then his Instagram saying he was having dinner with the one he loved and then Gunhee taking pics showing they were together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikes1265 1,078 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 I was shocked for a second when I saw this gif. I don't watch WGM so I don't know what they were talking about, if it was part of joking around or not, but the gif makes it look like a bold move. On the one hand, I'm happy Heechul found someone that makes him happy, but on the other hand I'm worried he might get hurt again. Heechul says he doesn't get emotional but his actions always show emotions run deep in him. Gunhee seems like a cool guy, but he hasn't been in the public eye for long. So far I don't think they got any hate for intracting in public, but it's going to be a hard test for their relationship if the comments get negative. HeeChul isn't a kid and has been debuted for almost 10 years now, he knows the ropes. I'm sure he knows everything he's doing. Since Gunhee has gone on tour with SJ, I'm sure the rest of SJ 'knows' who he is too. They seem remarkably close for two Korean males in the public eye. They are reminding me of Yunjae and being so out there that people may not think its true. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikes1265 1,078 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 has anyone ever talked about Block-B? I think U-Kwon is gay but he has a girlfriend so idk anymore. I also think that Taeil is gay. Zico and Park Kyung sometimes make me question them. these? yes, it's quite sad really. his cheeks just.. my heart hurts looking at him. baekhyun does definitely not look happy and like he'd rather be anywhere else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikes1265 1,078 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 If an idol comes out why does it have to effect the whole group . depending on how much interaction there was..If Jae came out now, then he would out Yuhno. He affects another person, although since he never was 'with' the others, it shouldn't hurt them. If Key came out, then it would basically out Jonghyung. I'm guessing when HeeChul comes out, it won't really cause much of a stir with the other members as he never really flirted with them except Hangeng. Other than that kiss with Sungmin, but thats something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikes1265 1,078 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 I don't know if he has, but it's fitting . Heechul has no problem in getting his way when it comes to scripts, one of his only best talents really. He's having the time of his life on his SNS accounts, isn't he? We'll he should count his blessings. Because people will start questioning every interaction between that member and the rest of them, specially the skinship. The whole group will have to "prove" they aren't gay too. Thats why I figured Heechul has a lot of power and could come out. I'm surprised how the producers have let him do what he has with that show, although I'm grateful too. haha I've been surprised Kim Gu Ra has not tried to push the issue with GunHee, he usually pushes the idols and doesn't hold back his words. I wonder if the viewers are still watching to see what Hee does with his 'wife' or what Gunhee and him will do next? Especially now since the kiss. Surprisingly, or not, Allkpop is quiet on Gunhee. Also on AJ from UKISS, can you imagine Key or Kyuhyun or Suengri having heart surgery? It would be top page news. Nothing on AJ except his twitter post. It all seems very weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikes1265 1,078 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 @mikes1265 Could you please put all of your quotes in one post? We try to avoid double posting here. If a heterosexual couple is considered a "scandal" in Korea, can you imagine the impact of a gay couple? I try but forget to hit multi quote sometime, I'll try to get better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikes1265 1,078 Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 ...And with Siwon, and Kyuhyun, and Henry (not sure about this one), and Jungmo (not Suju, but still),.. I agree with what you said on a general point of view. Hangeng would not have much problems in my opinion, since he's Chinese and not really in the same circle anymore. Also, Hangeng is playing in a gay movie, it would not be that different in term of suspicions. If Jaejoong is out, then it will be difficult for Yunho. Even for people who think there was nothing more than friendship between them , it's so spread in the fandom that Yunho would definitely be questioned. Many friends of Jaejoong could be questioned actually, but Yunho would be first easily. I don't think Key coming out would out Jonghyun. I think it would be the contrary. Almost everyone knows thinks that Key is gay. But their "relationship" (if there was one) could only be confirmed if Jonghyun was indeed not straight. And then, yes, it would out Key, of course. Edit: Key is gorgeous here. Edit 2: Heechul looks kinda euphoric here... Gunhee is so sweet. Puff knows what's going on, she looks beautiful too. I couldn't quite understand what you were saying about Key and Jong. If Key came out, then why wouldn't people assume Jong was gay? Would be the same as Jae coming out and then everyone knowing Yuhno was gay, right? I love the video of the kiss!!!!! It is SO sweet. Much better than the photo. You can see Gunhee got him full on the lips! But it was a very sweet kiss and Gunhee seems very nice. I like Hee's reaction, no hate or malice or shock. As usual, nothing on AllKpop about the male to male kiss scene on WGM hahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikes1265 1,078 Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 (edited) I found Heechul's twitter post from when he 'came out' of the army It was accompanied by the photo of him and Gunhee in bed wearing the same pajamas kimheenim: I'm happy^-^ I hope I can continue to laugh like this everyday from now on.. A relationship that would let us remember our past memories while smiling, not only as Universe Big Star and fan, but even when we become old grandfathers and grandmothers.. After meeting Gunhee, I have learned to relax, and be positive. Instead of hoping for 200% of happiness for just me, I hope you all and I could have 100% of happiness together. (cr: NKsubs) Edited June 28, 2014 by mikes1265 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikes1265 1,078 Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 HSC called Jaejoong during a tv show: Translation here: http://twtkr.olleh.com/view.php?long_id=L1kJIs cr: Ilovekimjaejoong (tumblr) HSC's PDA is too much? Coming from Jaejoong (or should I say "Jjoong"?)... Edit: The photo they showed at the end is interesting HSC has shown those photos before, they're all cute. They had been friends since the Yunjae era, for good reason. I posted a video from YouTube about them earlier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikes1265 1,078 Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 Is it just me or are they very natural together? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gQMNQlYRX4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikes1265 1,078 Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 Haha, i know that (you don't get drunk with steak for no reason)! I found it interesting because Jaejoong didn't really seem bothered by the PDA in those public places They are... These hands seem to know where they are going. It is a road they have travelled before 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikes1265 1,078 Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 I'm going to ship Jaejoong and HSC. Are Jaejoong fans messy about him? They are long time friends and HSC would protect Yunjae in the past and give them a place to 'date' and eat at his restaurant. I don't think Jae has anything for him or vice versa, just good gay friends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikes1265 1,078 Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 (edited) LInk to the episode pls!!! I was going to, but someone already did. I only watched the cute kissing part Sorry to drag the conversation away from Kaisoo (adorable, btw) but I wanted to say something about the Heechul/Gunhee 'kiss' on WGM. Now that i've watched the episode and saw the context, it's absolutely adorable and I can see how most people are writing it off. Heechul had been joking around with Puff, telling her she couldn't kiss him and Gunhee kinda took his moment and took a chance, ya know? I think afterwards though, you can see the genuine love in Heechul's eyes even as he's 'punishing' Gunhee. I also thought it was completely adorable how when Heechul was working on Puff's hair, Gunhee was randomly pawing at Heechul's hair. The episode was cute and even though Heechul keeps trying to force heavy skinship on Puff, i'm not buying it. It's kinda painfully obvious that she isn't either. The whole scene was adorable. Hee wasn't even mad or 'humiliated' as straight Idols would have been at that point. Kangin would have kicked his ass. You could see in Heechul's smile he was blushing like a school girl. Puff has to 'know' its very obvious who Gunhee is. The way Heechul works him into the episodes is very smart. I think anybody who goes near Jo-Kwon during such a hot time is maybe trying to make a safe statement; I feel he is replacing HSC as the premier gay celebrity and I think other people will imply orientation by being seen with him. D.O is not even open to being portrayed as 'Kpop gay' which makes him even more likely to be involved in liking guys because he can't even be pragmatic about making money Kwon is famous in Kpop circles and now doing his musical. This could go either way. D.O. might just be getting a selfie wish a senior idol or getting close to one of his gay idols I might appear stupid here, but what does D.O. stand for? I almost feel bad speculating on D.O because I feel like he wouldn't enjoy WGM at all; I don't think it would be possible for someone as explosively gay as D.O to even fake love with a woman Hmm, JoKwon did WGM 'check mate' lol why is gunhee even in wgm??? like why? is he here as heechul's friend ,stylist or idol? You must know the story by now. Gunhee has even been on stage with SJ in concert and is also friends with other SJ guys. There is a Gunhee Instagram pic of Kangin and Donghae washing Gunhee's hair. He also does that styling show with Heechul and Hee works Gunhee into as many of his project as he can. He doesn't want to be far from his man. If you follow their Instagrams you realize how much time they spend together. I don't know but he and Heechul are behaving in a way where if he really was married or emotionally involved with a woman the behavior would create a seriously huge issue, he and Gunhee are coming real close to pretty much having sex sometimes. I feel bad for his fake wife because her time on WGM is going to be a huge blackeye in hindsight, It's uncool to suicide bomb somebodies career like this there are better ways to operate Well since WGM married is a semi-scripted program, I think Puff understands now, but I'm not sure she did to begin with. I cannot imagine that Korean people aren't noticing GunHeeNim more now because of their actions on this show. Not sure it will suicide bomb her career, but this portion of the show appears very fake. You're correct, two men acting this way in front of the others girlfriend would never happen in 'real' life. She'd beat Gunhee's ass or drop Hee like yesterday's newspaper Many straight or gay people can be intimate with the sex they're not attracted to without being disgusted... They just dont't get turned on. It's like fucking a lamp or a coffee table lol What a graphic description. hahaha I'm not even going to say anymore Edited June 29, 2014 by mikes1265 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikes1265 1,078 Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Omg that was hilarious and adorableeee. Like the look on Heechul's face was totally "......I ain't even mad" And Gunhee was like "my little angel" and then "trololol" wat That was even better than any Yunjae kiss! Heechul's reaction gave it all away. okay the last one made me laugh This should put the icing on the cake, but as someone brought up before, maybe @KarmaButterfly or someone else, they are getting more obvious each episode and they may end up making Puff look stupid. lol okay Exactly. A definite Sungjong delusional shipper who can't believer her bias is gay, which in it self is so hilarious considering who her bias is. Maybe her other straight bias is JoKwon? If he's got a girlfriend, I wish the best to her. The sex must be amazing. OH yeah, totally. This will be the last time I address you because I'm done with your shit, but did you ever stop to think that you might be the one doing wrong by Sungjong? I definitely don't think you have insider information, in fact I think you're just someone who can't swallow the fact that their bias might actually be gay. You act like we're speaking on behalf of him, but what exactly are you doing by saying "Seriously, poor Sungjong" and "no one else talk about straight idols so" - like right there, you're assuming he's straight. I really think you're remaining willfully ignorant to the fact that the majority might actually be on to something. Also, this is not the "Which idols do you think are straight" thread, so if you want to discuss that, go somewhere else. I'm done. Delusional bias girls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikes1265 1,078 Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 *Enters* *Sees arguments* You're going in and out so much, you'll make sungjong horny 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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