Which male idols do you think are gay?

[Chika Chika]

16 hours ago, tafattsbarn said:

Yuzuru has no past public relationships, he doesn't even have as much as any credible rumors of a relationship. He is heavily stalked by media in periods as well so it really is pretty impressive, especially in the past two years that he has spent almost entirely in Japan (compared to about half of the year since 2012 before that). For nothing to come out about his romantic life (or lack thereof lol) is wild. 

He did say when he was 19/20 that he wished to get married (by age 25/26, he's now 27 and still unmarried lol), and he has named female celebrities as his ideal type before (around the same time), but really there is not much else and since a lot of other queer people have done the same in their lifetimes that really isn't much to go on (especially not the married bit as Japan is a pretty traditional society and Yuzu comes across as a traditional person). 

He does have a lot of gay rumors/wishes both internationally and in japan (there are boards on japanese forums dedicated to lusting for him (and his rather juicy ass ) as well as speculating on his sexuality, mostly populated by gay men lol (international ones too, he used to have really popular threads on data lounge before they migrated to their own forum)). It's rather interesting and discussions among Yuzu fans about his sexuality can get very heated as people are either in the straight or gay camp with barely any inbetween. There are also a lot of limp wrist jokes as his mannerisms come across as rather flamboyant sometimes. Though it should be noted that his personality and the way he speaks is very masculine (according to native japanese speakers i've asked). 

Yuzu is a very private person, and he lives in a very traditional society, so honestly we are unlikely to ever know the truth about this. I also see him as the type of person that even if he is gay/queer he is unlikely to come out and will likely marry and have kids despite it. 

It comforts me to know that he likely isn't homophobic though, as his longtime coach is openly gay (and married), and he's also friendly with a lot of queer skaters (it's difficult to say who his true figure skating friends are due to how private he is) + one of his skating role models as a child is a gay man too (one that was heavily mocked for it during his career, no less). 

I remember reading an interview years ago, a skater was talking about why so many skaters are not eager to come out as gay.

Basically what they said was that male skaters and their sexuality is largely on display, from a young age. From gossip among parents/coaches, to the girls deeming them dateable or not, it gets talked about.

So when they get older, regardless of them being straight, gay (or pan/bi/ace for that matter) what they largely want is privacy and for it not to be a topic of conversation anymore. So coming out is not a freeing as it is for some, what is freeing for many is to keep control of their own life, whatever that personal life may actually be.

Also Johnny Weir, didn't publicly come out until 2011, many people assumed he was gay before then and it is widely thought to have affected his scoring at the Olympics. He also had homophobic comments made about him by commentators on air. So, yeah, there is a risk still unfortunately being openly LGBT+ in this sport.

[Chika Chika]

15 hours ago, solario said:

He's never had any public relationships, and in my opinion Yuzuru Hanyu is absolutely NOT straight. Please bear with me through this short analysis.

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First I think I should talk about Yuzuru and his gay friends (although some of them are also my own opinion lmao). The sports' world is small yes, and being friends with gay people doesn't mean you're gay but the way he acts when together with these friends tell me a lot.

 

Misha Ge, Eric Radford and Yuzuru Hanyu

 

Eric Radford is married to a man. Misha Ge isn't openly gay, but I do think he's gay, in this tweet he even replied that he couldn't smile because there were two beautiful boys around so he got shy..... No comments. 

 

The behind of these pics:

 

Yuzuru and Misha Ge

 

 

 

 

Yuzuru and Johnny Weir

 

The former skater Johnny Weir is openly gay and used to be married to a man. He is one (or was idk some things went down about Weir talking about Yuzu) of Yuzuru's inspirations/idols, to the point he even did a short program based on Weir's routine to honor him. And Weir designed Yuzuru's outfit for the 2014 Olympics' final. 

 

 

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Yuzuru and Stéphane Lambiel

 

Lambiel is a former figure skater which also isn't openly gay but I strongly believe he's gay. Has a private life and no public girlfriends or boyfriends as far as I remember. Honestly I don't know if I should even use this an example because he's also one of Yuzuru's inspirations and their relationship seems to be just that, master and student. But I'm already rambling so thought I might as well add it.

 

 

 

 

That's it for gay men, but there were some other suspicious relationships imo

 

When I started liking Hanyu Yuzuru in 2015, a lot of his fans (ofc not the ones who vehemently claim he's straight lol) used to think there was something going on between Yuzuru and Javier Fernandez. I was one of them because honestly I'm not one for shipping, but there was something about them that seemed genuine. Then Javier retired from skating, there were some rumors that he was getting married to Miki Ando, and well it's disrespectful to ship a married person so people dialed down with the shipping (also because Yuzuru and Javier barely interacted publicly after that).

 

 

 

They're certainly the most famous Yuzuru ship to this day.

 

Yuzuru and Liu Xinyu is something that haunts my mind sometimes because... why is he always carrying him ksxksamkxsa It's a joke but it doesn't make it less funny

 

 

 

 

 

And to finish my essay, I think the way he acts with woman is pretty different to how he acts with men. I don't get a vibe he's interested in them at all, but it could just be that he's a gentlemen or they don't make his type. I can't say with 100% certainty that he's gay, but he's surely bi at least. 

 

 

 

 

 

I remember when Jev retired he cried and said 'I will not be able to do this without you'. Iirc I also think I saw him sit in the audience and look at Jev skate and had tears in his eyes. Jev and he seem to also be very touchy feely with each other but as you said he is a married man so we can't really say.

I only ever saw Yuzu on Ice with his incredible performances and never even heard his voice until recently it suddenly struck me that 'Wow I never heard this person speak' and so I looked up some of his videos and I was like 'OMG, this dude. he just pings me'. I wanted to know if some others felt the same and so went on to reddit and there are several people who feel the same as me, to say the least. There have been so many talks even on the other pages and subreddits. I knew I was not the only one to feel that way. 

I just now came across his most recent interview and there too his mannerisms scream out to me. 

If he were a kpop idol his name would be a constant on this thread. 

I also found out that Yuzu has been living in Canada for the past ten years and that place is very open minded. He also somehow happens to be a very private person. No social media, no accounts on any apps. Everything that we know about him is just his practice and things and events that HE wants us to see. He really just looks very queer to me.

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[Chika Chika]

Doesn't anyone think anything about Jake from Enhypen? Jake just gives me very soft gay boy vibes. 

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[Chika Chika]

Does anyone follow Xdinary heroes? A boy band that debuted under JYP?

[Chika Chika]

33 minutes ago, yelloww said:

I'm not a fan so idk but do people genuinely believe Sunoo has a crush on Sunghoon or is it just a shipping thing? I've seen it discussed a few times but no receipts tbh.

I believe Sunoo liked Sunghoon. At least to some extend.

I also think that I-land was not so tightly scripted or controlled in the way Enhypen are now. You can literally see how some trainees were bitter against each other. Literally everyone watching Iland said that there was zero cooperation among the boys. It literally made it hard to watch. This makes me really believe that most of the things they did were done by them and not the doings of their company.

They had the feel of a harsh football team. 

Sunoo had some liking for Sunghoon, atleast I see it that way. 

[Chika Chika]

2 hours ago, sureyeahiguess said:

At 14:15 Felix says: " When I think about you, I feel like I have another reason to live. But it's too much that I sometimes need to calm down. Let's naturally be Good friends because I can always think too seriously about you. Cause you are here, I'm happy that cause of you, I'm who I am."

It's giving me very much "I realize I have feelings for you I can never act on" 

If someone would say this to me I'd cry. I am a fan of Stray Kids but don't follow them very closely. However I did watch some content of theirs and I've never seen him say something like this? I mean I always thought he was closer to Chan than he is with anyone else. I also want to say that even Hyunjin's expression seemed very serious like he too was in deep thought. I don't know anything about their dynamics and honestly none of us do but I think I stand with what you say it did come off as very 'I have feelings but I think I can't act on it and here we are so let's just be good friends.' 

 

[Chika Chika]

6 hours ago, winaevis said:

I don't think he would say something like that on camara neither think he meant it that way. Felix is a really loving person with all his members and that sound like something he would say to other members. Between them I see nothing more than a good friendship with a little of fanservice lol (like the way he talks about the rings sometimes sound like fanservice in my opinion) if I'm not wrong Chan once said that Felix is the closer to Seungmin 

I agree but just the way he said it or the words he used can be interpreted in so many different ways. Maybe he was just showing appreciation to Hyunjin maybe it was something more. We will never know. Whatever it is, those are some really touching words.

[Chika Chika]

12 hours ago, mEeEeE said:

Alright so this will be my last post because I know it’s not a general Taeyong thread. 

His Whiplash and OG Baby Don’t Like It lyrics are about HIM being extremely SUBMISSIVE. Berserk is the complete opposite. 

You’re telling me this person doesn’t deserve to be called “Bubu”??

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Please he’s so cuteee it makes me cry. Are you telling me all male-idols or 25/26 year-old men act like this? 

Yes I've watched all of Game of Thrones and while the sexual violence against women was excessive and gratuitous, there was so much more to the story (that I  could overlook it). 

From what I've read of Berserk 

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A major plotline is one main male character brutally rapes the strong main female character until she is retarded to get back at the other male character. 

Readers have said: 

"The majority of the time the female characters that are brutalized are displayed in a titillating manner meant solely for the male gaze."

"It seems as though literally every female character is either raped or threatened with rape at least once--this is partially explained away by the setting, yes, but I'd argue this has a lot more to do with simple titillation than with establishing mood or setting in many cases."

"Berserk isn't sexist that's for sure but I tend to cringe at some of the underlying fan service in certain scenes. I mean rape in The Medieval period was especially prevalent so in Berserk it's perfectly realistic no issues there but having every village girl depicted as a super model throws me out of it IMO.

"While the rape of ____ was integral to the plot, I believe some of the other rape scenes Miura draws are simply the result of him being horny" 

I posted some of the images in my previous post. Honestly, as a woman it horrifies me. It's not the rape/s, but the way they're depicted. It would ruin the story for me.  A woman (or gay man?) wouldn't draw/write things like that no matter how "medieval" the setting is. 

He must really like the manga to own the entire collection...and I can't see a gay guy doing that?? 

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It may be a sign that he’s into women…but is Taeyong genuinely ok in the head?? Does he find this titillating/erotic/beautiful or something? His rough, demonic onstage persona seems so vastly different to his soft real-life personality that I literally can’t get my head around it...two extreme opposite sides of the spectrum. 

Now how can this guy…

 

 

 

(Can you honestly blame people for infantilising him when he’s like this?? )

…really like a manga like that?? 

I can’t understand him   
I understand people have different sides to them but bruh he is TOO EXTREME, SPLIT PERSONALITY

[Chika Chika]

so, Hueningkai Uploaded a Studio Cover of Avril Lavigne’s Sk8er Boi And Didn’t Change a Single Pronoun.

 

[Chika Chika]

21 hours ago, shineestan said:

Seoham was the leader of KNK but he's since left and Jaechan is a member of Dongkidz. They're both currently playing the leads in the live action adaption of the BL webtoon Semantic Error.
 

Apart from people thinking seoham was gay for years that's all ik bc I only started paying attention to them through the drama

 

I am watching the Bl they are amazing. 

 

21 hours ago, shineestan said:

Apart from people thinking seoham was gay for years

Why did they think that? I am interested. I didn't know who he was, just saw him for the first time in the series itself. Are there any receipts? 

Like there has to be reasons people thought he was gay for like such a long time. 

Okay, found a tweet.

https://twitter.com/Sunvori/status/1099902662894448640?s=20&t=vXoylSmznvixO5D87hyKPg

Also the actor 'Kim Jiwoong' pings me. He is also a Bl actor who plays a vampire in 'Kissable lips'. This is him.

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[Chika Chika]

10 hours ago, oh my dora said:

he's also a former kpop idol of two groups. INX and ATEEN. unfortunately, there's only been horrible things that happened to both groups by both companies. if you're curious, you can search it, (inx lawsuit and ateen kpop) but it's very sad what occurred in both situations. 

on a lighter note, it's funny how the first role i saw him in, he was playing a bisexual vampire, then he went onto a full bl, also as a vampire. this scene lives up to the title. put other kbls in their place for kiss scenes 

these two are so cute. i keep getting distracted by seoham biting his lip and looking at jaechan every 5 seconds though.

 

Okay so there was another user who mentioned Seoham but it was way back in like 2018 or 2019. wow. 

Not only that there was a whole discussion about him the page is 3023 if you're interested in seeing it.

 

 

[Chika Chika]

12 hours ago, OkiPop said:

Thanks for posting this. I've been obsessed with the show since it started and i was wondering why Seoham looked so familiar. The two leads have great chemistry and It's one of the best BL dramas I've watched so far.  I'm also watching First Love Again another BL drama were AOORA of all people is in it. He was in the nugu group AA back in the day. I think its safe to say he's clearly out and was never coy about. Guess what? He's also in the OnlyOneOf clip that was posted in the previous page. It's funny how how a lot of these former boyband members get their start in acting on these BL shows.

 

I am watching First Love Again too and Chanhua being in the drama really shocked me honestly.

17 hours ago, oh my dora said:

semantic error was trending on theqoo

https://theqoo.net/index.php?mid=hot&page=2&document_srl=2361064505

it can be translated on desktop right click translate to english page. 46k people viewed it

generally a positive response so hopefully this is a good sign

Okay, so turns out Jaechan's company was slightly against him taking up the role in Semantic error and that he was the one who persuaded them. He said it himself in an interview. This role must've meant something to him. Maybe he connected with the character?

 

Also Jaechan made an Insta account and his first post was of him wearing Soeham's clothes.

 

 

 

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[Chika Chika]

11 hours ago, shineestan said:

 

I think Jaechan did mention in one of the BTS of the show that Soeham very often brought him food. 

[Chika Chika]

Okay update.

Soeham did a vlive and said that the prop room scene were adlibs and not totally in the script.

Someone on the Vlive asked him where is your baby now?

and he replied with 'My baby [this time he used the word 'my' not 우리 which translates to our.']  is eating samgyeopsal at home. I bought him samgyeopsal.'

He got food from JC’s mom as gift for taking care of JC well. 

He got chocolate from JC’s brother on Valentine’s Day.

He also got a lamp as a gift from Jaechan.

In another Vlive he said that he went to Jaechan's house and met his family and drank Soju with his dad.

 

[Chika Chika]

47 minutes ago, DDiddy said:

I find it quite funny that Taehyung is kinda often on this list if you think about the context of  him being dicussed on this thread, it makes it even better haha

Namjoon too, though I'm kinda sad that the boyfriend discussion was so short-lived. 

 

Yoongi has SO many sus moments I don't think  anyone actually thinks he's straight tbh.

I find it remarkably that he put quite tellling lyrics (E.g ''Whether it be men or women, my flexible tongue movements will send them to Hong Kong with my raps'') in songs. Like, Interviews can be deleted or disproven, articles can be taken down too but a song by the artist? that's gonna be on the internet forever, I mean you wouldn't be able to take down a song and not expect reactions by fans. Just a very interesting choice to convey his message in my opinion. 

 

I agree with you so much on this. Some Thai episodes are like an hour long but have so many filler episodes. I have to skip so much and it just makes it boring. 

Korean and Japanese bl's are so much better. To my star is so good even though it was so short. Recent thai bl's like 'Not Me' are better. 

 

[Chika Chika]

I was going to talk about the same. Really think it's fan service but man they also have good chemistry. Thing is that I feel they are really comfortable around each other. Soeham is going for his military service in a few months so I think we will have to wait some time for season 2, if there is going to be one. 

I sometimes can look through fanservice cause I watch Thai dramas as well and see that some Thai actors will try to be really touchy feely around each other but Soeham and Jaechan are not that touchy. They just tease a little bit and the fans are freaking out. They seem to have a decent friendship going. I mean like Soeham literally went to his house had dinner with Jaechan's family and drank with his father. There were only 8 episodes and the episodes too were not that long either. They got close and comfortable within a very short span of time.

I remember Jaemin from NCT taking up a small role [it was not bl] and at the end they didn't even allow the kissing scene to happen. Being a young kpop idol there are a few limitations and expectation that you have to keep up with. Jaechan being 20 and taking up the role is a big thing in itself. 

[Chika Chika]

On 3/3/2022 at 12:07 AM, oh my dora said:

they do produce a lot of BL, however.. it's not LGBTQ+ friendly all the time. it's super ironic, but there's a lot of shady things behind the scenes. there are actually homophobic BL actors who take these roles to elevate their fandom, then they say they won't return to BL. sometimes they say only if it's with my partner, when they know their partner has the same stance. it's because they earn money from the fandom they have. literally, LBC cast.. a mess.. as seen below. also, there have been rumours of openly gay actors being outcasted and bullied amongst their co-stars. 

he really said this in broad daylight, and it's exactly how others feel. a lot of the time as well, BL in Thailand, franchises like GMMTV, they earn money from being in specific pairs. apparently some of them sign contracts where they have to do skinship/act like a couple off-screen, even after the show has finished airing. it's all for marketability. most of them even start singing and dancing afterwards.. which is always yikes because majority of them can't hold a tune or dance on beat to save their lives.

and this guy.. 

now we know that if you're accepting a BL role, this question will come up, but there are ways to answer it. to think, this guy was part of the no more BL club, until a BL trailer was released with him in it, years after his first BL role. sounds like someone who wants to come back now that it's getting attention. eyeroll. 

Example A of how you can respond to this inevitable question: https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=252844505856898

there are so many aspects of the BL industry in Thailand to talk about. from the homophobic actors, to the ones behind the scenes such as the problematic writers. MAME is responsible for some popular BLs, but people find her stories problematic because of the same non-con tropes she uses. there's a BL that some believe were shading her, because this one was made by a director who worked with her before. 

the rest of this scene is basically about gay actors auditioning and failing either because they're gay in real life or look too feminine for the role, as explained in the tweet underneath. 

 

 

nowadays, there are more shows that shade the common types of problems that happen. BL is slowly becoming a bit more fleshed out than its earlier days. certain topics are being called out, but alas, still exist anyways.

 

now to give some appreciation to these two actors, max & tul. they are straight, but have come out multiple times to say how much they respect the community and recognise that by playing the roles they play, they are representing us. 

now the promo for their show has long time ended, but they still remind us about their support every so often. it feels very genuine. obviously, bl fans aren't asking for actors to do as much as they have, but the least you can do is not be blatantly homophobic, or make it obvious this is all a cash-grab (even saying it explicity, like damn ok). there are simpler things like

also no matter how woke gmmtv makes some of their recent shows, they're still not off the hook for some of the incidents like transphobia and this trailer which people are debating on whether this is actually good representation or not

i heard about this too. i think there was also some similar behind the scenes drama with saint suppapong and the lbc cast.

speaking of saint though, who's doing it like him? pioneering some GL series for us

 

 

 

 

whew this was a long post!

There is so much going on in the Thai bl world. Most of the actors themselves are homophobic. I remember this one incident where there was one actor who was out [I don't remember his name] and the other boys had like this act sexy competition. They were like  'Act sexy and since he is gay he will like it but the one he likes most will be the winner' The amount of jokes and bullying that gay actors face on the sets of a filming is insane. I mean like they are literally filming a bl and they make fun of the very same thing they are earning money from.

I see many people just jump into it just to gain the name and earn off of it. I mean why can't they cast gay people for taking up a gay role. I am not against straight people supporting the community but let's be honest here, most Thai bl's aren't even about supporting the community anymore. They are outright problematic with their shitty tropes. Bad buddy was fine and I guess now 'Not me' has taken a slightly serious note on bl's. Tharntype and 2gether was not to my liking. Lovely writer was okay. Yes I read that they did call out a few problematic tropes. 

Some of the kisses/acting are so unnatural and uncomfortable I just feel like dying.

Saint, MaxTul are really supportive of the community and you can see it in the way they behave and speak about it.

I just don't see it the same with the others.

On the side note 'Lovely Writer' just reminded me of Nobita and Gian. lmao.

To my star, where you eyes linger and Cherry Magic were really nice Bl's.

[Chika Chika]

So, I think Soeham and Jaechan's friendship is really sweet.

Soeham speaks about how he didn't want to take up the role and felt like he should just retire. He talks a lot about Jaechan literally reducing his sleeping hours just to help him out. Jaechan could see that Soeham had no confidence in himself and keep complimenting him about how he really looks like Jaeyoung and that he is doing great.

Soeham says that it was decided that the show would end with a hug but it was Jaechan who actually came up with the kiss scene idea. Jaechan also, around new year's told Soeham that he should have a meal with his family and Soeham was like 'Yeah, okay' then Jaechan was like 'No, let's go today' and took Soeham home and had dinner over at his place. 

Soeham also says that they met each other when both were having a very difficult time in their life and that both found comfort with each other.

The interview where he speaks about Jaechan is very long so I'll just paste it here. He said so much more about Jaechan and his family that I might've missed.

Seoham Chosun 4.03.22 Interview Part 1

Park Seoham "First time coming first in my life... a fateful project.”

S: It was after I left my company that I got another call to be Jang Jaeyoung. I said I would think about but it was fascinating to see Jaechan there.

S: But the filming was next week and there was only a week to prepare for it so I rejected (the role). The original was big/popular, the platform was big, it being made a drama was also an issue and I hadn't acted in a long time so at that time I was lacking self-confidence.

S: It was to the extent I thought of retiring, my heart was about 90% set. At that time even if another company called me I would say 'sorry' and rejected them, during my burnout when it was severe I stayed at home and it was then I got the casting call for Semantic Error.

S: At that time I thought 'at least I didn't work for nothing', I went to the audition thinking 'am I able to do this'. Even then one week took up quite some time. I had to read the original, read the script, and I didn't have a company so I organised everything by myself and it wasn't easy. If a day has 24 hours, I read the script for 14 hours and organised everything else in the 10 hours.

S: The reading for all actors was only a few days away and I thought I wouldn't be able to do it. But this project came during my burnout and the other actor was Jaechan so I thought that I would just try. I started by thinking 'it's an experience that I can't buy'. Luckily it was rainy season so the filming was pushed back by a week and so I got 2 weeks to prepare. At that time I did the reading with the producer for 6-7 hours, they must've been tired doing the reading me Jaechan and I too. When the last reading finished (they) also helped so I was very thankful.

Park Seoham was able to gain his confidence back through 'Semantic Error' and Park Jaechan. Seoham was devastated till the extent of crying after finishing his promotions with KNK, the group he was part of in for 5 years and spent his 20s in. Seoham said he had a hard time when he looked back at his trainee days and all of KNK's promotions and said he found his own pace through 'Semantic Error'.

S: I went to the filming with low self-confidence and the producer even asked 'why are you not confident/intimidated?'. But Jaechan gave me confidence.

S: Whatever I did, Jaechan would say 'Hyung you really seem like Jaeyoung' and complimented me, I was thankful for that. We both understand the hardships of being an idol, at that young age Jaechan must've understood how I was feeling. Despite being busy with his comeback,Jaechan reduced his sleep time to help me so I thought how could I repay him, to Jaechan who always feels bad when I buy him something, I said 'I'll make it so that you become used to receiving things'.

S: I had about 170K followers on Insta but now it's about 220K and I have a KKT chatroom. I always liked communicating with my fans so I haven't left the KKT chatroom but there's more than 1000 people talking about me. It's fun and cute seeing that.

S: Newer fans asking my older fans about my information and (fans) answering questions is so cute so I also comment 'cute!' sometimes. It's always like that so my fans are very precious, my fans call me 'dad', so I feel a responsibility for taking care of my daughters and sons.

On SE being no.1 on Watcha App

S: I'm happily reading good comments and listening carefully to negative comments. Both Jaechan and I haven't been/placed first in our lives. So SE ranking first was a first for us. It was a first for us so it didn't feel real.

S: It didn't feel real so we both didn't really have any big reactions to it. 'Wow', 'that's great' it was like that, our emotions got bigger as an hour or 2 went by. And then it was 'Wow, we're really first place!'. So that day I happily ate meat, I was happier as days went by.

S: I heard that fans aren't letting it go down from 1st place by streaming it. So both Jaechan and I are like 'both of us did a good job in doing Semantic Error' and I'm spending my days happily.

On possibility of a S2

S: Not even half of the drama has come out so, if we film a season 2 after I get discharged I will happily film it. If we do a season 2, there's talk that there are very few episodes so I want to film at least 10 eps and I want to film in America too.

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On Adoration of Jae Chan and Semantic Error’s Upcoming Kiss: Interview Part 2

S: Despite being busy with comeback preparations, Jaechan did readings with me and helped me so I was thankful. I suddenly joined the drama so I felt intimidated at the filming and my confidence was at rock bottom but Jaechan helped me gain that confidence back.

S: Also as I worked alone (without a company) it was not easy even just travelling to and from the filming site, Jaechan helped me with one of my worries.

S: Despite being busy with comeback preparation he reduced his sleep time so he could drop me off so I'm very thankful. He's a younger brother I can't help but adore. I thought 'how can I repay him' and could only think 'to buy him lots of yummy foods'.

S: So I've been sending food to Jaechan's dorm. But Jaechan, who is thoughtful, tries to repay me. At that age he should really just be receiving things/being treated to food but he keeps trying to repay me so I said to him 'I'll make it so that you're using to receiving things'.

S: Jaechan also said that he had a hard time during 2021. I also had a hard time during 2021. We met when we were both having a hard time so we always stuck together every day. So like that we were with each other the whole day. It was a given that we would get close and in such a situation we both had similar thoughts and matched well. If Jaechan acted cute I wouldn't find it cute, but even when he's sulky it's cute. That was really cute. Even with the 'cuteness ban' Jaechan was acting cute in front of me so I said 'Jaechan's not cute!' but my cheekbones would go up (smiling).

Upcoming Kiss Scene (Hang on tight guys, all aboard the hype train)

S: A kiss scene was added during the filming, the producer asked us whether 'it's right to end the scene with a hug?' and Jaechan answered right away. I thought Jaechan was amazing because this was when we still weren't that close and it was our second day of filming but Jaechan said "even when I think about it, (a kiss) is right for this situation". At that time I thought 'he is really serious and cool' while reflecting on myself, and a kiss scene was added.

S: The upcoming kiss scene is really deep, when we got an age rating of 12 the producer's ego was scratched. They said 'is this an age rating of 12!'. I look forward to the upcoming episodes. To be honest I think episode 7 will go over (be better) than episode 4.

S: From the audition, the producer mentioned the costume room scene and ep7 kiss scene as important. In the costume room scene there is only one line of dialogue so I was confused but they said 'the right vibe has to come out'. But for both of us, we were introduced to BL through this drama so we didn't know. The producer showed us references and I started to understand. They said that it would be good to have a thrilling/exciting and fuzzy sort of feeling so I was nervous. Actually the dialogue wasn't even decided on the day, The two lines were either 'should we go watch a movie too?' or 'I'm XX* nervous. Right?'. So I thought about it a lot and actually during the rehearsals we had to fill in that dialogue with adlibs. I was thinking 'what should I do' and just said 'are you scared?' and Jaechan replied back. *swear words

S: So then we went with 'should we go watch a movie too?'.

S: Around New Years, I had a meal with Jaechan's parents. Jaechan said to go to his home so I said 'I'll go' but he said 'let's go today' so we went. But they treated me so well and even gave me New Year's money.

S: It's not (polite) to go empty handed so I bought drinks but they packed me side dishes so I was thankful. During a live broadcast I mentioned that Jaechan's mum packed me side dishes, she saw it and messaged me. She said 'because of Seoham we're starting March off thankful'.

At the end Park Seoham said 'please use/publish this part' and smiled"

S: DONGKIZ will be having a comeback, they worked really hard to prepare for it. Please write to give DONGKIZ lots of love, I will pour all my enthusiasm/passion to DONGKIZ's new song.

[Chika Chika]

2 hours ago, realdefdanik said:

I don’t feel like it’s too outlandish to think that something could possibly be going on between Seoham and Jaechan. Of course some things they do ARE fanservice, but some aren’t. Like the fact that they went to a Lee Chanwon(?) concert together in late January and never mentioned it themselves (we are aware of that because some netizens talked about seeing the two of them there, as seen in the tweet I linked + Jaechan's message, but no mention of Seoham) and a rumoured trip to Jeju Island that they also haven’t talked about directly. And they spent basically every day of the New Year's holiday together.

It really isn’t much different from other idols speculated in this thread; the biggest thing that sets them apart is the fact that they are paired up in a BL drama, which leaves the lines a little blurred due to the public they’re catered to and how they are expected to behave because of that. It's fun to speculate. Either way, it's refreshing to see some new faces being talked about in this thread! Especially since Seoham had his fair share of sussiness discussed here before.

Yo what? Trip to Jeju? Nice. The amount of times that Soeham has been brought up in this thread years before he even did the bl is surprising to me. and I didn't even know about the concert and the fact that they didn't mention it. Like literally both of them didn't even hint at it meaning they probably must've discussed in private to not disclose a few things because going on a trip and a concert is something any two actors who wanted to be shipped together would've brought up.

[Chika Chika]

2 hours ago, cold soba said:

also, regarding semantic error... wow. the chemistry between jaechan and seoham is off the charts. i don't tend to watch bl and i also don't like kdrama, but i sat down to watch semantic error yesterday and i have to say i was really impressed! i like how it has a budget first of all, and second of all how the actors aren't completely awkward. i don't know anything about jaechan but i used to semi-follow knk back in the day and i think seoham is mlm. there should be discussion about him here from a few years ago. seoham used to go by seungjun back then so if anyone wants to search him up that's the way to go.

This thread is not easy to access when you're trying to search up a name. but I just now looked through and his name was even mentioned back in like 2017.

@Hobismiles posted this in 2017

KNK Sexuality analysis:
Youjin: I don't really get vibes from him? Like he's had quite a lot few gay moments with the members but either Straight or flexible?
Seungjun: gAY lol there doesn't even have to be an explanation for this guy
Inseong: Bi but leans towards men or gay... Definitely not straight
Jihun: Bi.. Bi? Pan? He seems like the type that doesn't care about his sexuality and just loves who he loves thank god
Heejun: Curious, yeah. Curious.
I realise that the majority of the LGB+ in this group that I analyzed is probably really far off, but I'm almost 100% sure that Seungjun is gay. 

Soeham was highly discussed back in 2016. literally everyone at that time thought he was gay.

 

[Chika Chika]

31 minutes ago, OkiPop said:

I had no idea Seoham was the talk of the town back in the day. The timing of  his military enlistment right after his show is interesting too.

 

I just googled 'Seungjun Onehallyu' and it showed up every instance they used his name in the thread. 

During his predebut he was in a music video where he played the role of a guy who was very good looking and so all the girls had a crush on him but turns out he had a boyfriend. 

 

[Chika Chika]

THIS.

[Chika Chika]

1 hour ago, oh my dora said:

semantic error trending #5 on weibo

multiple posts on the qoo

https://theqoo.net/index.php?mid=hot&document_srl=2374186095

https://theqoo.net/index.php?mid=hot&document_srl=2374046326

https://theqoo.net/index.php?mid=hot&document_srl=2374003288

https://theqoo.net/index.php?mid=hot&document_srl=2373535635

it's really the end now but i loved every episode

I'm hearing people are really liking it. Korean and Chinese fans. So happy that a bl is getting so much hype.

[Chika Chika]

23 hours ago, AstroBaby said:

back to the topic it's refreshing to see Seoham being brought up on this thread again, I stanned knk back in their rookie days and they were definitely popular for their gay antics and it was even brought up on Korean gay forums. It's on this thread somewhere but I'm too lazy to search back, but the forum post was this video

with the caption like "do you guys think these idols are gay for real?" and I always think about the comments posted

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Comment: Seungjun's looks are definitely in the top 1% of gays but his personality is a turnoff I hate giant bottoms like him

   reply: I think he's a femme-top kekeke

    OP: even worse

like I just find it hilarious how on here we try to be so rational and respectful all the time but the k-gay forums went straight to dragging him also it made me think of this tweet

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anyway Seoham sweetie don't listen to the masc4masc losers  < 3

Honestly, wow. Which korean forums are these. Even if he was discussed it must've been lost with time cause it was so long ago. It's so funny that all the people who sussed him are now seeing him acting in a bl. Seungjun gave off more gay energy in his earlier days. He is really aging like wine. Like he's grown so well into his features especially with those glasses on.

Jaechan however. I don't really know what to say about him. He seems to be confident and comfortable in taking up this role.

He was also very keen on doing this project.  I don't know what to say about him. I can't really read well into him. I also read that Jaechan cried really bad when the shooting wrapped up. 

 

[Chika Chika]

9 hours ago, OkiPop said:

Yeah I can totally see Seoham as gay/bi and giving no fucks. But for  Jaechan I’m not getting that vibe from him.
 

Despite that for a “young” guy he seems to be  *very* comfortable with Seoham (and comfortable with his sexuality). I love how Jaechan teases him in all the behind the scene footage.

Yes, for being that young and being a kpop idol he seems very unfazed and comfortable in the role. He also said it was not a problem on his side. Seoham looks more flustered than Jaechan at this point lmao.

Honestly, we can't really say.