slightly 1,206 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Taking this at face value this makes me think J-Hope has just blurted this out. Because no matter what it's about (whether he's talking work, personal or both), it gives the impression he's not entirely settled with his lot on some level. If he thinks he's being stifled or hasn't been able to work on himself, that might reflect back on Bighit a little perhaps? Which may be why his eyes look to be roaming around in the third pic, almost as if he's watching who's watching him? Though it's hard to properly assess from a few stills and I can't find a video or follow up anywhere. But it's very interesting. So does anyone have any more context/background for this please? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MC4CVrn4HWQ The specific moment is at 1:16:55 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slightly 1,206 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 In my opinion some BTS members are gay/bisexual but they are not dating each other I used to think taekook were suspicious until I realised Taehyung acts the same with everyone. And Jikook is similar because Jimin acts flirty with a lot of men Taekook and Jikook shippers try to find "clues" in all their interactions, but if you observe them with a non biased perpective you will seee both Jimin and Taehyung are really into skinship and maknae line in general are very playful with eachother Bighit also promotes the Taekook and jikook ships a lot wich for me confirms there is nothing "secret" between them the most supsicious BTS member is Yoongi as he looks so awkward when he has to do skinship with the other members and some of them act hesitant around him too, probably not knowing if he is ok with showing this on camera Tbh same. When I first embarked on Hunt the Gay: BTS Edition, I'd watch these videos and read these analysis posts that make a ship seem so real, but for every single one of them there's another for an interfering ship that's just as convincing. It's really easy to start believing something if you keep circling the same corners of the fandom, which cut out everything else from the picture that would diffuse the significance of their 'evidence' 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slightly 1,206 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 (edited) I'm sorry, but the heteronormativity in this video and the comment section is.....somethin' else. 'God of indifference'... Indifference - lack of interest, concern, or sympathy. like... idk maybe he likes girls but is this really the hill these fans want to die on Edited January 10, 2019 by slightly 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slightly 1,206 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 idols: say they like men, stare at and get flustered by hot guys, name male celebrities as their crushes, recommend stacks of lgbt artists straights: lmao people tryna assume their sexualities, stop reaching idols: have a completely expressionless face in front of a girl, maybe don't even look at her straights: no one can deny the burning passion 44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slightly 1,206 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 (edited) Click here to view the Tweet aah ok so now that burn the stage is up and on youtube, i can finally share this!! That soft music at the end lol why does it feel so much like its about to launch into a romantic montage of them growing old together Edited January 18, 2019 by slightly 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slightly 1,206 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 ...Anyways JenKai stays unbothered.⤠I really hope they'll have a long and happy relationship. They seem compatible for each other. Why is it so hard to accept that idols date? A lot. 99% of those are relationships we'll never know about. If JenKai were a pr couple (lmao) say one thing companies have benefited of it? Knetz don't care, fans don't care and are supportive. It was just news. Nothing shocking. Now everyone are like "ok". So if u think they are to cover some serious stuff, that is ridicculous cuz like I said, knets don't care and it wasn't a scandal. So if the pr thing would be true, it was a major fail. XD So... you are a delusional fan if you don't want to accept JenKai dating and you are trying to speculate stuff etc. Not your life, so let them date in peace. They are dating and for sure happy af, you can't do anything about it. Neither Jennie or Kai are gay, you can't force a sexuality on someone. Get a own life & relationship and leave idols alone ffs. (Delusional jenlisa and kaisoo are funny af btw. Kinda sad.) I hope u guys can understand my English lol. did that whiplash sting 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slightly 1,206 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 (edited) I'm not good at English like I said. But does someone really think they are gay? Like... Anyways what I meant is that they are dating, so obviously they aren't gay, and especially exols who want Kai to date Kyungsoo or some shit like that, can't change the fact that Kai likes girls. We don't know if he likes guys too, maybe he does, but he has proven that he isn't gay. Get my point? Now goodbye, some ppl (exols) in this thred are just...anyways. Oh, I'm also gonna say this: I don't think mediaplay relationships are common in kpop. I can understant how Baekyeon could've been fake and why ppl think they were, but still... just why? Doesn't make much sense. (Poor Taeyeon, I'm glad exols have matured) So I just accept the fact that they dated. The idols literally sell the image that they are always single & are only there for their fans to get fangirls and money. Especially SM does this (YG not so much). How many times have you seen idols say their fans are their girlfriends, that they aren't dating etc? Exactly. And when u look at the other couples exposed by Dispatch, I'm sure most of them were legit. Jennie and Kai are both good looking, nice and great ppl so no wonder they fell for each other. Maybe you should support them (even if u think they're fake or not) instead of trying to speculating them to be fake or something? Delulu kpop fans logic: my (gay) ships are real even if I don't have proof!!!11 Confirmed couple: they are fake af!!! Ppl are shit. Don't @ me. Sry for my English, don't twist my words. I'm not speculating them to be fake? Or pushing a gay ship? I WAS calling out bisexuality being ignored as an option and hypocrisy in general. One(1) person posted a serious opinion about jenkai being pr, but no one else here is arguing that Edited January 19, 2019 by slightly 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slightly 1,206 Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Also Jungkook: Click here to view the Tweet That is literally the pose I strike when I want everyone in the room to remember I'm gay 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slightly 1,206 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 (edited) Ok so I know posting this might flare up vkook bs here again which I really really don't want. This isn't for shippy purposes AT ALL, but just Hyundai having Tae and JK doing that thing from It's a Wonderful Life where the man tells his date he'll lasso the moon down for her Click here to view the Tweet Edited January 21, 2019 by slightly 11 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slightly 1,206 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 (edited) Long time lurker first time poster. Posting that but following up policing the way people talk about it is a bit unfair no? Either open the floor or don't. What I've read over the past month conversation over Bangtan members having non-binary relationships and dynamics is shipping but doesn't apply to other groups. Like all this talk about Yuta and WinWin or Taeil and WinWin. Seems to be a major disconnect and it's arbitrary. Or just fear of being too shippy for a group that big and attempt to keep an outward form of legitimacy for this thread. 'We don't ship. Real talk only among gay friends. We so legit.' or something. Some people aren't shipping. We believe BigHit are saying something about Taehyung and Jungkook. And that Taehyung and Jungkook are telling us something. They are building a new Heechul situation and there is a lot of support out there for them that is growing. Dismiss it again and again to keep the 'no ships here' myth going but it will keep coming up. A serious and genuine thread on the topic would stop yelling it down even if it makes the posters who live here all day uncomfortable. I'm aware of this and tbh sometimes I agree that it seems a little hypocritical when people jump on taekook or jikook related posts while totally engaging in conversations around other groups' ships. That said, Jungkook shippers in particular have a habit of utilising extremely pathetic 'evidence' from which they draw out huge assumptions that are such a leap. But mostly my disclaimer comes from the sheer exhaustion of having this thread melt down over the same pairing every month. It's boring when shippers start trying to prove their theories in a place that has repeatedly made it clear that its point is to only examine non-hetero or open-minded behaviour, not possible secret relationships. There are other places for that and I just don't want this thread jammed up for the zillionth time with the same old fight. Edited January 22, 2019 by slightly 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slightly 1,206 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 (edited) Edited January 23, 2019 by slightly 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slightly 1,206 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 (edited) just everyone helping themselves to a slice of namjoon Click here to view the Tweet Edited January 24, 2019 by slightly 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slightly 1,206 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 (edited) ^ Regarding that interview too, we aren't privy to the full picture. It was the same year Singularity dropped and their whole concept in general was about wearing masks, being restrained, feeling fake and struggling between apologising for and accepting their true selves (they almost disbanded at the beginning of the year too, although that might be unrelated). It feels like lgbt members were really Going Through It at the time so, whether Namjoon himself is one of those members or not, he may not have wanted to put any extra spotlight on that area; especially perhaps since it was a western interview and some of the western response to BTS is "they look gay/girly". The article itself kinda emphasises his statement in a particular way by unnecessarily describing it as 'circumspect' too. Honestly when this interview came out I was sorta sad since, alongside Yoongi's boldness, he could have said something stronger. But there's just so many possible elements at play behind the scenes and, considering how Namjoon probably makes the most consistent references to lgbt media out of all the guys, I think it's likely that he was following some kind of strategy to do something he must have felt was important, like for example protecting lgbt members (and that may include himself). Edited January 25, 2019 by slightly 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slightly 1,206 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 (edited) Since I guess we're doing this, here are my current thoughts: Tae - gay, fr. He was the first one who clicked in my head as gay and my opinion remains unchanged Jimin - gay or bi. I thought gay for the longest time but now I'm unsure. I will be truly gobsmacked if he's straight tho. I mean, the good looking interviewer? The guys he eyed in Malta? All the gay bff vibes he throws around with Tae? People who think he's straight... I don't understand you?? Jungkook - gay??? It's seeming more and more likely to me Yoongi and Hobi - bi. I feel so alone in thinking Hoseok isn't straight but idc, I feel like I'd bet my wifi on these two experiencing same sex attraction. What I can't figure out is whether they're highkey bisexuals or lowkey, where they're dominantly attracted to females with occasional and/or purely sexual interest in men. Regardless of the details though, I believe the possibility for same sex attraction is present in them Namjoon - I wouldn't be surprised if he was bi but I also wouldn't be surprised if he was straight. I really enjoy people's receipts and theories on him, and tbh Moonchild's lyrics still have me side eyeing him heavily, but on the other hand he's a man with a heart and I think he'd come across lgbt even if he is straight because he's directing his A+ empathy skills towards allyship. I'll just keep enjoying living in a bi!Namjoon world since I'm so on the fence Jin (this one's a little long so) - He sure stares at men a lot and never seems to care about being seen as gay, but I never pick up on any genuine desire behind it. Jin in general has this vibe of carefree indifference so it's hard to gage. Here he is claiming to like women in bikinis immediately after Namjoon - (lmao @ 5/7 unresponsive) It feels genuine and not like he said it to maintain a hetero image. I don't really see Jin ever trying to maintain a hetero image so that would be kind of ooc. And I've brought up this moment here before but I always think of when they prank Jin with a random woman in his hotel bed and Jimin and Namjoon joke that he'll like it. At 5:25 - If Jin had no attraction to girls, even if he wasn't out to them yet, this would be a really weird joke to make; especially by Namjoon who pays such attention to details, cares about honouring his members and doesn't prioritise chaotic lolz over sincere thoughts. So I'm inclined to believe Jin likes girls. BUT IS HE BI??? Personally I don't think so? I don't really understand the people who want to shut down speculation about certain idols, even if you think they're straight. I mean, there's giving your honest opinion for the sake of the discussion, and then there's downvoting all posts that suggest so-and-so is lgbt and adamantly insisting he's a het so let's move on. This is a gay speculation thread. Everything should be open-ended and open-minded. The possibility of anyone being lgbt should be celebrated here of all places. Anyway, neg me Edited January 29, 2019 by slightly 16 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slightly 1,206 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 (edited) Thank you. Maybe just a delusional queer, but my opinion has been for a while that their cool bond is in part because: Jin: Not straight Jhope: Not straight Jimin: Not straight Yoongi: Not straight Joon: Not straight Jungkook: Not straight Taehyung: Not straight Who knows who is what. But they seem like a family and family. Yeah. It's not like those of us suspecting BTS to have an lgbt majority or unanimity are pulling this out of nowhere. It's a fair conclusion to reach, even if it's wrong. Being overly rational can blind you just as much as wishful fantasising. People who automatically dismiss the notion, tell themselves that no more than a couple could be lgbt just because straight people are majority in most spaces, and bow down to this broad generalisation, rather than engaging with the specifics and examining each case for what it is, I mean... That's not good detective work Edited January 30, 2019 by slightly 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slightly 1,206 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 (edited) Frankly I just don't see how a group that's as gay as a whole and hard to read as BTS could be on that level with an lgbt minority. There are many groups where an lgbt-majority claim would be wildly unlikely but BTS imo isn't one of them Edited January 30, 2019 by slightly 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slightly 1,206 Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 (edited) I think people of any sexuality would stare at that girl's butt because it's big... I don't undestand why keep bringing that as a legit receipt For real. My teacher in high school had the biggest tits ever and I would stare at them a lot since my gaze was just naturally drawn there. Didn't make me any less of a lil gay boy though Edited January 31, 2019 by slightly 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slightly 1,206 Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 Btw, did this ever get resolved to any sort of outcome? It's another Hobi-dobie-doo mystery, with ARMYs fighting in lumps in the comments and various explanations given, including one for tiredness. Click here to view the Tweet Thoughts? As far as I know, it remains inconclusive. 'Him' is apparently the Korean word for strength so there's that, but he wrote it in English for some reason so?? The people in the comments getting ready to throw hands with some mystery guy who broke Hobi's heart though warms mine Click here to view the Tweet 10 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slightly 1,206 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 So I was watching some old BTS stuff and Namjoon, after getting kissed by Jin, is apparently saying, "It's nice to get a kiss from a handsome guy." At 1:00:10 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xcPFbLNhOo Not a massive deal but I thought I'd post it since I've never seen this moment before 9 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slightly 1,206 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 (edited) Can somebody please direct me to the page in this thread where there is an analysis and summed up LGBT moments for all BTS members? I can't seem to find it anymore and i as i remember it get's updated from time to time. Here: https://onehallyu.com/topic/64-which-male-idols-do-you-think-are-gay/page-3289?do=findComment&comment=25705003 Edited February 5, 2019 by slightly 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slightly 1,206 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 (edited) Click here to view the Tweet He refers to it as "the most memorable scene in Bohemian Rhapsody", so Namjoon can be added to the growing list of idols to have seen the movie Edited February 21, 2019 by slightly 6 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slightly 1,206 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Click here to view the Tweet Not really sure if what is probably straight women voting on which combination of personality and strictly adhered to sexual role in fictional gay men gets them off more can be celebrated as progress 16 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slightly 1,206 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 (edited) Check out Jungkook debating ice cream flavors as a metaphor for gay rights (don't take this too seriously, probably): I'm definitely scraping the barrel here but that's where my mind went too lmao Edited February 27, 2019 by slightly 17 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slightly 1,206 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 (edited) i expect there could be a few scattered LGBT individuals as well outside of this rumored number, depending on personal privacy, openness within confidante circles (if the LGBT idol in question even has a circle of confidantes), and even self-awareness (many LGBT individuals, especially bisexual individuals, can go their whole lives without realizing it). God this has been on my mind so much lately. Two older guys in their 30s I know just came out as bi and they both said that they've gone their whole lives unquestioningly thinking of themselves as straight. My bisexual ex was the same, thought he was straight until our relationship and has only dated girls since. My 'straight' friend who loves his wife just opened up to me about hooking up with guys in TGIFridays bathrooms when he was younger. Sorry if this is too much personal venting lmao but sexuality does exist on a spectrum and bisexuality in particular can go unstated or even undetected for forever. I think a lot of people don't realise that bisexuality doesn't have to be a 50/50 thing to be be bisexuality. Even if rumours are true and there are only a couple of self-aware/known-about lgbt members in certain groups, even if a member or two of a group came out and the rest remained silent, it never rules out the possibility of there being more. Tbh I think in general there are a lot more lgbt people in the world than we all think given those who aren't aware or active about it. Edited March 6, 2019 by slightly 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slightly 1,206 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 (edited) Do you know who Milo Yianopolis is? He has a world tour with the word "faggot" in the headline. I don't find it offensive either. And I say this from the point that Korean youth will accept a gay idol. I think the problem is to do with discrimination within the industry OR the kpop idol path isn't actually that attractive to gay people. FYI you can be openly gay without having gay marriage. The only major gay right that Koreans don't have that could prevent an idol coming out is the military discrimination. Furthermore, antidiscrimination laws exist in Seoul where these idols work. I feel that there's more pressume on idols to remain in the closet due to overseas promotions where homophobia is a bigger problem, then in Korea itself where most young people would tolerate it and even support it. 90% of Koreans want antidiscrimination protections for gays. What is even going on???? "90% of Koreans want anti discrimination protections for gays" where? Show us factual evidence of this In your own words you said you had "bad English communication skills" with the Korean people you interacted with. You're really going to use a personal broken-language experience, as an outsider to both the country and the idol industry, to argue that there isn't any homophobia and therefore aren't any gay people? Peers and young fans are not the only people in idols' lives anyway. They have parents, family, employers, all older and potentially less accepting. They may be dealing with internalised shame, homophobic company, fear of their career suffering, etc; these are common problems in liberal countries let alone a conservative one like SK. Hey it's great for you that you seem to have never experienced homophobia, but you could maybe not dismiss other people's struggle AND OUR ENTIRE EXISTENCE IN THE MUSIC INDUSTRY just because you personally haven't had the same problems. I hate myself for even engaging in this dumb argument Edited March 9, 2019 by slightly 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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