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Alright correct me if I'm wrong, but is

for ''She's gone'' portraying a bit of the LGBTQ+ scene? I am no expert, but some of the dancers look kinda fluid and it seems like they are voguing. Anyways, the song is sooo good laugh.png

 

damn peep that death drop @ 1:57 QRLGYBO.png  the fashion, choreo and aesthetics of this mv are all very obviously influenced by lgbt culture, but it seems kinda... misplaced??? because the song is so straight, both lyrically and sonically (there are a lot of country and rock elements to the song, which is not something you'd ever hear in a dancehall)

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So, a twitter user pointed out that the sweater Yoongi is using in this old photo has a quote of Brokeback Mountain

 

whether he picked the sweater out himself or not, you CANNOT convince me yoongi didn't get the reference. this is the same min yoongi who could name both the main actors and the characters they played in "a frozen flower" from the top of his head, even singing along to the soundtrack.

 

yoongi is very passionate about cinema in general, so i bet he's seen a fair share of gay movies.

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Drunk mark is interesting

 

 

mark was so uncharacteristically clingy during this whole vlive 0u0plz.png  some fans were saying "it's just juice!! they're not actually drinking alcohol" but anyone could tell they were drunk af + mark would never be that openly affectionate while sober 

 

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Jeno: his parents barely spent anytime with him at seollal, his grandma takes him to church? smells like homophobic

parents to me, and his relationship with jaemin is questionable so i'd say pan

edit: people have been saying he seems to be tense with some of the skinship when it's on camera and i agree, it again could contribute to the homophobic parents theory where he's concious of what he's doing because he knows someone in his family could see it and not be very happy

 

interesting take since he did actually confirm he was baptised and that jeno is his christian birthname, but made a point of saying he's NOT religious anymore.

i know mentioning religion on here is somewhat controversial, since religious lgbt people obviously do exist, but let's be real - they are a minority. i think especially in cases like this, where someone is brought up in a conservative christian home (because pretty much all organized christianity in korea is ultra conservative) but then chooses to distance themselves from that religion... is noteworthy to me.

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On the March 29 airing of tvN's 'Life Bar', MC Shin Dong Yup commented, "Heechul claims he's the one who actually exposed Defconn to the public, not Jung Hyung Don."
 
To this, Defconn said, "In the past, I guested on a radio show while Heechul was the DJ. That was the first time I saw him but he acted like he was so close to me." 
 
Defconn continued, "I used to promote hardcore music in the past. I favored rough music and Heechul even knew my songs and liked me so much. He expressed one-way affection often, making me wonder if he likes me as a guy."
 
Shin Dong Yup teasingly commented, "Yup, there were (gay) rumors in the past."
 

exhibit #13236762 on how heechul literally lives in a glass closet

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Hello everyone, super longtime lurker here. There was a comment made back awhile ago on this thread about NCT's Jaemin. I couldnt find it but it was basically about how Jaemin pinged because of his mannerisms. I found this intriguing because i honestly wouldn't have suspected him if it wasnt for his interactions with Jeno (who i am also still confused about). I just wanted to know what you guys think of these two. Do some of Jaemin's mannerisms come off as "stereotypically" gay?

 

i actually don't think he's flamboyant or feminine in the slightest, but something about him just screams gay?? i can't really pinpoint it but i think it's just the way he carries himself. i feel like we haven't seen enough of him yet to make an absolute conclusion, but from his interactions with jeno alone i'm pretty sure he likes boys.

 

speaking of which

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The gay so strong it ended homophobia. Skinny legends only. ohpressor.png

 

 

i can't believe THIS is what made korean and int. nctzens come together... powerful indeed hoplz.png

 

i always find kfans opinions on this topic very interesting, since there's obviously lots of nuances that are lost in translation and/or that we might not be able to pick up on because of culture differences, so i compiled a few tweets. under a spoiler because this is LONG.

 

 

 

this is a modified version of the original alignment chart that went viral (they just drew arrows to indicate where they'd move certain members) and LMAOOO they really pushed haechan and mark all the way to the left huh.... at least they think jaehyun is sus too.

 

whoop the tea has been served ðŸ‘€  this thread is already in agreement of him being straight though, it's just twitter stans that need to Wake Up

 

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rip they deleted.. but this seems to be the overwhelming response to ten our unapologetically gay king hoplz.png

 

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now this is interesting, because it made me realize how i might be looking at jaemin through a western lense and reading too much into skinship and flirty behavior. (these are all queer fans btw so please don't try and come for them just because they have a different opinion!! they're already risking being subjected to cyberbullying just by voicing their opinions)

 

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"prisoner of korean style denial" LMAO i might have to reevaluate my stance on doyoung

 

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So, who is perceived as sus? Ten, Taeyong, Jaehyun, Jungwoo as already mentioned or there are more? I wonder if they heard of any gay rumours

 

while jaemin isn't seen as suspect, many of them think jeno is. it's funny because people here have said they think jaemin has an unrequited crush on jeno, but a lot kfans apparently think it's the other way around and that's why jeno gets so nervous at his flirtin, while jaemin is just oblivious. 

 

a lot of kfans also think doyoung is gay, which surprised me since i've never really seen anything remotely suspicious from him other than his reactions to jungwoo. maybe that's exactly what they find sus tho... the absence of any tangible proof.

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The gag is Jaemin has only kissed Jeno on cam once (excluding the kissy face he did at him in the bg of a vlive) but at a fansign they both said it happens often (off cam).

 

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Interesting. I think they both like eachother ("Stop liking me" "You liked me first") but Jeno doesn't want to act on it maybe because of internalized homophobia/his religious family. And Jaemin definitely isn't oblivious lol that smirk when he made Jeno flustered while staring at his lips said it all.

 

Something I noticed: Jaemin's mannerisms before this comeback did really really ping, but since this cb he actually comes across (and I don't like this word lol but it might explain kfans' viewpoint) as pretty "masc" (by korean standards). Like, he's got the deep voice, his baddass rap in Go, the confidence, the extreme fanservice (just like Haechan, which kfans coincidentally also think is straight), if all someone knew of Jaemin was just from this era I could totally understand seeing him as straight, but when I remember how much he used to ping.... nah lol. I wonder if it was a conscious decision or he just grew up and became more secure and calm.

 

Isn't Ten's dorm near/with the Dreamies? Hopefully he takes the baby gays under his wing so they follow in his confident gay footsteps. hoplz.png

 

He seems to have already done that tho  

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"But Ten just laughed". This is Ten trying to set the baby gays up as an emoji: za5g21G.png  

 

 

 

jaemin has definitely toned down on the campiness a lot since debut, but i don't think kfans opinions on whether he's straight or not has anything to do with this. i'm pretty sure they just see it as him "growing up". otherwise it doesn't really make sense for them to think jeno is gay since he's the definition of masc, both in appearance and personality. in fact lots of twitter stans were furious because kfans' interpretation was so different from their own "jaemin is a confident gay while jeno is either a repressed closet case or the straightest guy on planet earth" headcanons.

 

for the record i think both of them are suspect as hell, and that there's probably a mutual attraction between them, but it's nice to get a different perspective on these things. 

 

i'd love to see this discussion between other fandoms as well (k-armys please come thru!!) chuplz.png

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I know it won't happen but I really want those idols to be exposed, especially since I stan a lot of groups so it's highly likely some of those idols could have been the ones that bullied Holland. I still get angry when I think about how some people tied a rope around him and dragged him around on the floor (even though I think this happened at his high school). I was talking to my other friend about this and she said lots of Korean netizens already hate Holland so it would be even worse for him if he were to ever release the names.

 

Also this Jo Kwon discussion reminds me of when I got into an argument with someone in the Youtube comment section because they refused to accept that he was gay asfhfjsl

These are the receipts there are for him:

• Possible feelings for J-Hope
• Possible relationship with Park Bogum – they went on holiday together (see video of the two of them)
• Possible feelings for Kim Minjae
• Friends with Baekhyun, who is speculated to be bi
• “Stigma†lyrics could be interpreted as showing the struggles of being gay. Namjoon also would not talk about the meaning of this song despite speaking about the others, as he said it is personal to Taehyung
• Was comfortable/happy dancing in heels
• When Jimin first came into the dorm, he suggested that they sleep in their underwear with Jungkook. They were also “tangled upâ€
• He danced while rubbing his body on Jin despite them barely knowing each other
• Said that he likes the smell of J-Hope’s bed and sleeps in it a lot
• Made a gay drama with Jimin in a hotel
• Wrote a letter to Jimin and said “thank you for accepting me who I amâ€
• Said “when I was in elementary school I participated in a drag competition and I passed the qualification so it became a good memoryâ€
• Interesting imagery in the BST MV with Jin’s character. Also interesting MAMA 2016 performance
• Kept on calling Hyungsik “handsome†in a Hwarang interview
• Comfortable with girls
• Was acting flirty with Ansel Elgort, who then followed a few Taehyung accounts afterwards
• Flirty with Hwarang costars: “[Taehyung] has a lot of aegyo and toys with our heartsâ€
• Fanboy: Taehyung! Let’s get married! Taehyung: Okay! Let’s really do it!
• Fanboy: BTS I love you! Taehyung: I love you too!
• Likes LGBT artists (along with the rest of the group)
• His kakaotalk picture was a picture of Hari Nef, a transgender model OR a picture of a male Gucci model (sorry, I have conflicting sources)
• At a fansign, he said he really likes Alessandro Michele (who is gay) and Ryan McGinley (who is gay)
• Friends with Moonbok, who is speculated by some to be LGBT
• Could have fallen out with his family because he came out to them – there was a period of time where he stopped mentioning them, even though he mentioned them a lot previously. This could also provide an inspiration for the “Stigma†lyrics
• Sang a Sam Smith song (who is gay)
• When asked who he wanted to be on Halloween, he said he wanted to be the main character from “Cardcaptor Sakuraâ€(the main character is female) (no source)
• Said “I want to be Batman’s girlfriendâ€
• Said “I recommend the Bridget Jones Diary series. Colin Firth…â€
• Possibly references Moonlight, a gay movie, in “4 O’Clockâ€
• Friends with Sungjae from BTOB, who is speculated to like men
• Enjoyed dancing with some shirtless male dancers
• Is friends with and admires Ante Badzim (who is gay)
• Dressed up as Syaoran for Halloween (who is bisexual)
• Winked at a fanboy who screamed out his name
 
I don't think he really pings in terms of mannerisms (at least for me), and in terms of receipts I think Namjoon, Yoongi, and even Jungkook have more but he still pings for me, especially after Stigma.

 

 

to me the most suspicious thing about that little love trip taehyung and bogum went on last year is the fact that literally all the other members chose to spend their vacation with their families. but not tae. i think that says a lot, both about his relationship to bogum and to his parents.

 

if stigma aint about him being gay, i literally have no other possible explanation... i mean why else would he be the only member to not elaborate on the meaning of his solo song?? and namjoon saying something about it having a deep and personal meaning to tae 

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personally, i tend to assume most straight people are homophobic to some degree... maybe not in any intentionally malicious or hateful way, but they still do a lot of microaggressions that make everyday life so much more tedious. 

 

sure, only a small percentage of straight people actually enact real physical violence against us, but what about all the people who just do nothing? those who think that as long as it doesn't affect them, it's none of their business. 

 

take holland's situation for example - there's no way the other students were oblivious to the bullying. lets say around a dozen kids ACTIVELY bullied him, and a couple of them are now promoting, then how many more do you think just turned a blind eye?

 

in my opinion passive indifference is just as bad as active malice, and a bystander is just as guilty as the perpetrator.

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talented. brilliant. incredible. amazing. showstopping. spectacular. never the same. totally unique. completely not ever been done before.

 

 

everyone laughing and hugging him afterwards makes me really happy! rlytearpls.png  it takes a lot of guts for someone who's had so many ugly rumors about him and has been called pretty much every homophobic slur known to man, to speak so openly about it and just OWN it. i can't wait to watch the whole episode once it's subbed.

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How does my opinion about him being straight affect you? In no way, so where's the issue for you?

 

no one here cares if you think lucas is straight. in fact i, and most others, agree with you that he probably is straight. it's HOW you're going about this by attacking anyone who thinks differently and making problems out of thin air that gets on people's nerves.

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my first response to the "bi legend" post said "r u kidding me" with a photo of lucas being kissed by girls

 

how is that different from someone asserting key is straight, and a post responding to that saying "r u kidding me" with a gif of key acting flamboyantly.

 

if it was the second you'd have given it a thousand upvotes by now.

 

you know bisexuality means someone is attracted to both men and women right? 0u0plz.png  of course you're entitled to expressing your diagreement, but how tf does that picture negate the possibility of him being bi??? yes, he likes girls. we all know that. that doesn't mean he CANNOT like boys as well (though i personally doubt it).

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the picture doesn't negate the possibility of him being bi, but (combined with the confirmed reports of him having consistently dated girls) it makes it highly unlikely. it doesn't mean he CANNOT like boys but it means it is likely he DOES not like boys.

 

i'm not trying to change your mind or anything, since i actually agree about him being straight, but what you're saying is just wrong.

 

many bisexual people, and especially in conserative countries, will oftentimes only date the opposite gender and repress their feelings of same-gender attraction, because it's not socially acceptable. lucas was really young in all those predebut pics and reports. most lgbt people (and especially bi people since it's a lot easier to deny your own emotions when you're still "half straight") don't have all their feelings sorted out when they're 15 years old. hell, a lot of people only first realize it when they're well into adulthood, and married with kids.

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Lets be honest with ourselves. Theres a reason the lesbian thread is full of queer girls and the occasional bi/gay man and the reason this thread is full of queer girls and a few bi/gay men. Im.not saying all of you fetishize but some of yall need to revaluate why you post here and why so often'

 

girl then how come i've literally NEVER seen you post in the lesbian thread??? yet somehow i see you quite frequently in here?? 

 

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Why are NCT fans on Twitter so obsessed with putting the members into the top and bottom category and using that as some sort of character/joke thing? I'm sick of gay culture being appropriated by these shut in girls that have probably never took a dick anally ever.

 

tl:dr - girls u will never understand the power dynamic and narrative between two men with one man allowing the other to dominate him. so stop trying and get a job.

 

i think this is the case in most bg fandoms, but it's true that it's extra prevalent among nct fans. a lot of them just have no sense of respect for the boys whatsoever. they have this creepy sense of entitlement, where they think openly talking about the boys theorethical sex life, kinks and bodies is completely ok. it's as if they forget that nct has a lot of members who are fluent/near fluent in english, and how johnny even said that he reads everything the fans write.

 

at times it kinda reminds me of armys ca. 2014. i remember being really uncomfortable back then with the way a lot of fans would talk about them, especially maknae line. some of the fandom jokes were literally just dehumanizing and cruel, for example jimin being framed as this thirsty, slutty power bottom, and let me not even get started on the jungkook jailbait comments. 0u0plz.png

 

i feel especially bad for jungwoo who just debuted and is already the butt of so many lowkey homophobic jokes...  

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Which group y'all think has the highest percentage of gay to straight members?  My vote is NCT.  Many suspicious members lol. 

 

 

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no but if we're talking pure numbers then i agree it has to be nct just cause there's so goddamn many of them, but if we're talking percentage wise then imo it's knk, cause like.. they literally have ONE (1) straight member lmfao

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