Which male idols do you think are gay?

[25%Cotton]

What concerns me is the line between past and future. For how long will shippers interpret Key's material to be about Jonghyun? It hasn't even been a year so the group's material is still understandably melancholy. But say Key writes a love song in 2020. Will Jongkey shippers automatically assume it's about Jonghyun, or will he be allowed to sing about someone else? This is such an unprecedented situation that this kind of nostalgic shipping is quite worrying imho because it locks Key in place as well when he might experience fulfilling healing and growth as the years roll by. I hope he's allowed to do that. Stretching Jongkey material to include all of Key's solo material feels very unhealthy to me as if Jonghyun was a character who died and not a real person.

well, at the current moment, we're actually close approaching the first anniversary of Jonghyun's passing.

i wouldn't be surprised if, romantically connected or not, the music had to do with him.

 

(again, can ANYONE confirm if Key is even the lyricist for any of his songs?)

Edited November 9, 2018 by 25%Cotton

[25%Cotton]

i'm an out gay dude with multiple out (and not out) gay friends, but recently i'm questioning my gaydar.

 

one of my good friends who i've known for about 6, almost 7 years came out to me just the other day. we were catching up and at one point he asked about my boyfriend (who he knew about but hadn't met yet). i asked him how he'd been on that front and he was like "i don't have a boyfriend now."

 

"huh?"

"i never told you but..." (tells me about ex-boyfriend a few years ago and more)

 

.___________. i had no idea guys i'm completely shocked.

 

everything i've ever known is in flux.

Edited November 10, 2018 by 25%Cotton

[25%Cotton]

Maybe it would be better if you put this in spoiler?

why tho? the only difference between this story and bts shipping posts is that this time a non-bts member is involved (which only makes it feel more relevant)

 

... Btw, shippers are welcome, but you should never fight someone else if they deny your ship, or think one person of the OTP is not gay, or if someone use your shipped pair in other ships.

idk “welcome†is a bit strong. i would say “allowed†Edited November 18, 2018 by 25%Cotton

[25%Cotton]

I think putting it under a spoiler was more because it was literally spoiling the Burn the Stage movie that just opened in theaters.

oh i had no idea XD

[25%Cotton]

And on the "NOOO not more BTS! ARGH the ARGUING" point, here's why BTS comes up so much

*etc.*

yes, we get that BTS is big and relevant. we aren't annoyed by BTS as much as we are of these petty shipping arguments that sweep the thread every time someone decides to talk about their favorite BTS ship.

 

if you wanna talk about who's GAY in BTS, then by all means DO THAT. but please make it about who is gay *on an individual level* and not who you are convinced they are in a relationship with. if you want to talk about sweet "intimate" moments of your favorite couple putting their hands on each other's shoulders then take it to a shipping thread.

 

Maybe there needs to be a "Are members of BTS gay?" pinned thread to separate it out. *shrug* A somewhat serious suggestion.

this is not the worst idea i've heard, since most BTS discussions here (even when started appropriately) tend to slide over into shipping.

Edited November 21, 2018 by 25%Cotton

[25%Cotton]

Realistically i think hoseok himself don't want earrings. He is a grown man who is now independent of his father and could do what he want. So i don't think it affected him that much.

Also his ex story sound legit.

of course you can say he invented it or his father influenced him with his mindset but like I said he wouldn't enter in details that much( like Jimin story who just sounded a whole joke or v story who sounded straight out of your typical teenager drama )

well, in Korea, which is one of the most loyally Confucian countries in the modern world, one's "filiality" (how good of a son/daughter you are to your parents) is very important, even as an adult. especially as an adult. of course there are times when you disagree or do the independent thing, but if it's something easily compromise-able like not wearing earrings...

[25%Cotton]

I was prowling Twitter and came across a thread that someone had put together re: K-pop's ingrained homophobia/s, SK's religious upbringings and the idol skinship culture. (Not sure how old that Sehun stuff is, my god Chanyeol or Chen (pic is v small) has got a 80s-style curly perm! And current Sehun seems confident and unflustered to my eyes. Actually a fight breaks out on the thread about it, with Sehun Is Gay people firing back. It's great for a laugh if nothing else.)

 

Thought people might like to chew it over for themselves and agree/disagree at will. There are positive mentions at the bottom of the thread for some old favs too.  

 

Click here to view the Tweet

i agree about sehun. i think he said that before because he was scared. if he was asked about it now it would probably be different, but bless suho's heart for going out of his way to bring it up several times from the very beginning (found another tweet thread both with a suho comment and a more recent sehun one).

 

not that it forgives him, but i get the feeling that what he said at the time he said out of fear.

 

that being said,

 

the thread you linked has a great point. idols are not praise-worthy allies unless they actually SAY something. your favorite idol is not amazing just for having a rainbow on their shirt unless they tell you the rainbow represents support for universal love. it might take a lot of strength to say at first, but isn't it worth it to support many of your fans and peers who are struggling quietly, feeling alone?

 

---

 

on a side note, i'm really frustrated by Hoya.

 

back in the early days of Reply 1997 (

), he said: "I heard about my role later. I personally didn't have any bias or prejudice against homosexuality so I wasn't really pressured about that. But my company director was a bit concerned. People around me worried that my image would be negatively affected. But I said that I really wanted to do it and asked multiple times that they allow me. I really wanted to play this role."

 

he also has ALWAYS been one of the most supportive members for the highly-suspected Sungjong

 

@11:35 ↓↓

 

but then, he also (as mentioned in the twitter thread Bushi posted) referred to Sungjong's lack of masculinity as a problem, and went as far as saying it was a kind of "trauma" that everyone started to think he was gay after Reply 1997: “I was a bit traumatized at hearing I liked men. What was worse was that I heard even celebrities asked about my sexuality. It went as far as to traumatize me. It was like this for over a year after the drama’s finale.â€

 

this was a really insensitive thing for him to say and i was (and am) very disappointed in him for saying this... then he comes along on this show Dancing High (where 5 dancing coaches including Hoya works with teams of teenagers dreaming of becoming professional dancers), and worked hard to produce several very emotional performances about being yourself.

 

(song chosen and choreographed by Hoya)

 

as a long-term fan i wish he would revisit his comments from a few years ago and apologize/express explicit support (i'm fairly certain he was aware of the international reaction because he has always been interested in his international fans).

*sigh* it'll probably never happen but...

Edited November 27, 2018 by 25%Cotton

[25%Cotton]

so i think i mentioned before that INFINITE's Woohyun and TVXQ/JYJ's Jaejoong were both on a show called "Photo People" that had a group of dudes taking photos around Tokyo.

 

woohyun and jaejoong have met before -- they took a photo together before (1), sunggyu has at least once attended jaejoong's birthday party (2), and myungsoo is a HUGE jaejoong fan (3).

 

1 (jaejoong & woohyun):

 

2 (sunggyu, heechul, junhyung, & zico at jaejoong's birthday):

 

3 (myungsoo & jaejoong's sister at jaejoong's concert):

 

i was worried when on an early episode of Photo People, jaejoong talked to woohyun about girls (can't remember the episode but i think he was saying woohyun must have had a lot of girlfriends or something like that). but after interacting a lot more directly through the show, jaejoong had some interesting things to say to/about woohyun:

 

"But I saw many new sides to you during this filming *laughs*"

"I know, Woohyun-ah~, Hyung knows all of your sincere feelings" 

"I think we'll be able to build a better relationship"

 

huh.

Edited December 1, 2018 by 25%Cotton

[25%Cotton]

Here's my Got7 thoughts in honor of their sweet Christmas repackage. Very much of the "my opinion" variety. Will mention ships only if relevant since we don't get to see some of them interact with many outside people, but I try to avoid it.

 

Under spoiler because it's a novel once again:

 

 

 

Mark: His personality makes it harder to decipher what he likes. For a time I even got fuckboy vibes but that might be inaccurate. Very chill but also comes across as slightly insecure over friends, mostly of Jackson and Jinyoung, who he gets shipped with so there are many "Mark being jealous" clips out there. Maybe it's because he's a foreigner and quiet but he might just fear being left out so he looks moody sometimes. Shippers interpret that as "omg otp" jealousy but I don't really. Grew up in California, has a gay sister who's married to a woman, and he appears to be openminded. Makes idol friends very easily and is affectionate with all of Got7. He seems straight to me but this could be entirely wrong.

 

JB: Bi-curious maybe. Neither he nor Jackson have filters so when they fancy someone they show it, and JB does seem attracted to women. He certainly attracts all genders- half of Got7 find him sexy and tell him often. Values personal space and has a tendency to sometimes reject affection from all genders unless it's on his own terms, possibly due to growing up in an abusive home. He wants to be in control of the interaction. Got7 being so loud flustered him in the beginning but he's used to it and has softened up considerably over the years. He's generally curious and casually recommends content from all walks of life, says he reads the back cover and if it's interesting he buys it. Saw CMBYN and bought the soundtrack and talked about it with a fan. He's quite unconventional for an idol (doesn't pretend he isn't close with female idols and goes barefaced whenever possible) and has his own circle of friends consisting of underground musicians who pretty much baby him and they shower each other with heart emojis and endearments. He's cuter with them as he doesn't have to lead. He seems intellectually openminded but is personally guarded and I haven't seen enough of him with men but he has some suspicious moments with both Jackson and Jinyoung, enough for me to wonder but nothing conclusive.

 

 

 

Jackson: Would bet on bi. The most tactile idol I've ever seen. He does seem to be attracted to women (was caught thirsting on instagram etc) that reads as genuine to me and has chronicled his past girlfriends pretty honestly and even overshares for an idol. It's just how he rolls so it doesn't come across as overcompensating or lying. He might just be attracted to a vast variety of people regardless of gender. Openly shows attraction to men and women, is all over his members, thirsts after men on variety shows. Too many receipts to count really. What a legend.

 

 

Jinyoung: I'm dying to know. During JJP days I was 100% convinced he's gay, he had a lisp and everything. However in recent years he's made a very conscious decision to pursue a more "princely", actorly image, and he's so good at it that I'm second-guessing myself. He's eager to brand himself as the nation's first love. Not that you can't be all that and gay, but he's so in control now and yearns to be taken seriously. Most of the change might just be him growing up though. But we know next to nothing about how he spends his time. Says "life is acting". With Got7 he's clingy and constantly seeks attention and fuels all his ships, of which he has many. Thot of the group. Has seen CMBYN too, don't know if with JB or separately. Is openminded and mature. Has the aura of a bisexual person perhaps but I can't remember seeing him attracted to a woman tbh. In fact this performance for example is so cold that it's veering towards unprofessional:

 

 

 

Maybe he's going for gentleman and overdoing it but it's incredibly awkward either way. Or perhaps he just hated the whole thing because of the lyrics, but he's still stiff af and not even trying.

 

Youngjae: Always saw him as straight. Had/has a popular ship with JB where he said JB's his type because he's a tsundere, but I don't see anything in it. 2jae comes across as brotherly. JB dotes on him and there's comfort and lack of tension. These days Youngjae's fully uninterested in any ships and he's a more serious, un- idol like musician in general. Was the first to move out of the dorms and has a slight outsider vibe sometimes (he only trained for a few months before debut). He's never given me an impression that he's gay but he's a mystery outside of the group so the material is lacking beyond him not being into his groupmates. He did accidentally like a (clothed) tiddy pic on insta a few days ago, for what it's worth lol.

 

Bambam: is wild and extremely expressive. Very flamboyant in his dancing, humor. The girl group expert, fashionista. However. As with Mark but in an opposite way, his personality being so extra makes it hard to tell what's what. Has this joking playboy vibe... that he says silly straight things and clowns himself but actually isn't like that. Expresses himself vividly nonetheless, wears blush and nail polish and doesn't give a damn. I don't know, harder to read than you'd think. Though re-watching this fab stage with Miss A and Jo Kwon, I do wonder if anyone not queer would be quite this immersed:

 

 

 

Yugyeom: He's young but he's never seemed questioning or like he's attracted to men. Has very nice chemistry with NCT's Taeyong though! Taeyong finds him adorable. I don't blame him.

 

Overall JJJ + Bambam raise my curiosity. Got7's a weird group in that there are so many overlapping big ships which all seem suspicious by kpop standards, making it more likely that none of them are what shippers call "real". They're all just really close and very tactile. But on an individual level the members are very interesting. Do I think it's likely that 4 out of 7 of Got7 are queer? Probably not, but that's the vibe sometimes. Might be one, might be several. For all their extraness, Got7 are also mature and protective of each other.

 

speaking of got7 and especially jackson, i noticed recently that this gifset had disappeared. took me a while to find it:

 

  

 

(jackson riding on jinyoung)

Edited December 4, 2018 by 25%Cotton

[25%Cotton]

Just to clarify (i watched this interview a long time ago), the MC was asking who had male fans the most and they all said Ravi, so the host being the ass he is  asked if he liked having more male fans or female fans and Ravi obviously didn't want to give an answer so he said both but the ass host kept pushing him to say that he liked female fans more so he ended up saying this...not stating that Ravi is straight cause idk but so this wouldn't be taken out of context

 

P.S.    @Suho and donghwan

host IS a total ass though. like... regardless of the sexuality thing, they literally just said Ravi has the most male fans. guess who's NO LONGER gonna have the most male fans if you pressure him to say "i prefer female fans" (if the host succeeded at forcing him to say it)?

 

idiot. an idol's livelihood depends heavily on retaining fans.

 

bless Ravi for having sense and not caving to this dumbass.

Edited December 10, 2018 by 25%Cotton

[25%Cotton]

DBSK’s new teaser is kind of ... implicitly homosexual? like... the actual song/MV will probably like GIRL GURL GURL with a love interest strutting around, but the first two trailers were just the members solo and the third is just them together with this “about love†commentary going on.

 

[25%Cotton]

danni_iu_jess just shared this with me.

 

This was posted on youtube with the comment: "here's a compilation of some cute moments that Q and I have shared together over the past year! i" Its from a fanboy and he added subtitles for what he talked about with Q from The Boyz. wooooow !

 

 

oh my god ;;;

[25%Cotton]

The post you quoted talked about the correlation between homosexuality and anal sex and the role that plays in both how straight people view gay relationships and homophobia.

 

If you're primary concern was penis jokes I would assume those would be the posts you would quote.

 

Edit that I'm aware you're most likely trolling but this is an actual dangerous line of thinking that some people may take serious so it's worth calling out.

^thank you. the past page or so has shown a real lack of critical thinking. good to know logic and discernment still exist here.

 

———

 

please guys DO NOT QUOTE THE TROLLS, thank you.

if you really must comment on them, do so without a quote. we don’t need to waste more time reading more of their shit when they pop back into the thread after receiving your notification.

Edited December 26, 2018 by 25%Cotton

[25%Cotton]

I know this moment has been posted already, but here it is in gif form:

 

(X)

 

I'm not posting this for shipping reasons *at all*, but like, how many straight guys would turn around like that to dance with their also straight bro?

tbh... i totally see this, wow.

that turn >_>

[25%Cotton]

Inspiration behind BTS V's Singularity

 

 

https://twitter.com/riseofbxngtan/status/1079106112186712065

 

Edit: "Confessions of a Mask" by Yukio Mishima- a story about a gay man in Post-war Japan who has to live behind a "mask"

bi, i thought?

[25%Cotton]

ok a bi namjoon truther is here to enlighten all of you heathens who thinks Joon is het cause "he doesn't ping" ...............SORRY BECKY YOURE WRONG

there's a lot so I'm putting it under a spoiler and posting this in two parts

 

*image limits; had to remove the rest*

 

 

 

part 2

 

 

 

*image limits; had to remove the rest*

 

 

 

 

thats all youre welcome

 

^^^don't know enough to comment on his sexuality, but he looks like the most effortless fabulous members. he has a confidence and level of comfort where he doesn't NEED you attention, he just gets it. a lot of kpop recently is very try-hard guys focused intently on giving exaggerated looks and poses to the camera, so i appreciate namjoon's more natural (but still fabulous) sense here.

 

 

please. PLEASE. i know this is from 2016 but fskljdsflkjsd for christs sakes. there's so much misinformation about that interview floating around and this is like. the peak of it. 

 

yoongi wasn't speaking in japanese, as far as i'm aware the interview was in korean and translated to japanese, as whilst they do know some japanese, i'd hardly think that back in 2014 it would've been strong enough to conduct an entire interview (of that calibre) fluently.

a lot of words in korean and japanese share the same root or kanji/hanja, such as heterosexual and homosexual, or backpack (ka-bang/ka-ban), or promise (yak-sok/yaku-soku). to give you an idea on how similar some of these roots are, heterosexuality in korean is ì´ì„±ì• ìž (pronounced i-seong-ae-ja), in japanese it's 異性愛者 (pronounced i-sei-ai-sha. homosexuality is ë™ì„±ì• ìž (dong-seong-ae-ja) with the hanja being åŒæ€§æ„›è€… in korean, in japanese it's åŒæ€§æ„›è€… (dou-sei-ai-sha). these can be broken down even further, with ë™ì„±/åŒæ€§ being same sex and ì´ì„±/異性 being opposite sex. the ì• ìž/愛者 can kind of be broken down into -loving person/nature.

 

onto the interview itself; it started with the interviewer (itvr) asking about the japanese version of their song's miss right lyrics, wherein it describes a person with long glossy hair and hips. namjoon said it was written by him. this then leads the topic onto his 'ideal woman' (in response joon said that because they're lyrics they're an exaggeration, but they hold truth in this case), then the itvr asked namjoon what he looks at first in a woman. tae answers for joon, and then then joon responds, followed by jk and jm flirting adding their opinion. the itvr then asks "suga, what's yours?" [first place looked at in a girl], and that's where the... infamous quote comes from.

this is a literal translation as possible whilst still making sense in english:

when yoongi said 'it's not limited to opposite sex', the interview used 異性ã«é™ã‚‰ãš (i-sei ni-kagi-ra-zu). [/size]literally, that's 'opposite sex not limited to'. in korean - we've already established that i-sei = i-seong = opposite sex - to limit to contains the hanja é™, same as in japanese. the chance of mistranslation between the two languages in this situation is near impossible. 

after yoongi said his bit, then itvr then moved on to asking taehyung what traits he found valuable in a person.

 

there's was never any mention of race at all, and yoongi never said he 'liked it all'. there's no issue of mistranslation. yoongi honest to god said that his ideal type of girl isn't limited to the opposite sex.

 

all these meanings and translations can be checked on http://jisho.org/ and https://endic.naver.com/.

 

if anyone wants to see my scribbles regarding the interview translation, they're here and here

 

^{(fun fact, this was the most yoongi talked the entire interview. prior to this response he'd only said one sentence, and then said nothing else after this.)}

the issue isn't the translation between Japanese and Korean, the issue is the English translation. that's not to say the English translation is incorrect per se, it's just misleading because 〜ã«é™ã‚‰ãš ("not limited to") is more of a grammatical structure than it is a literal statement.

 

it's more like "not just with the opposite sex" rather than "not limited to the opposite sex" (can you feel the difference in nuance?).

 

that's not to say he isn't subtly implying that he wants to include men in the equation with how he answers the question, but he is certainly not committing to a statement of bisexuality (though he may easily be gay/bisexual).

Edited January 4, 2019 by 25%Cotton

[25%Cotton]

oh, yeah nah i didn’t mean to imply that it was a definitive statement. sorry if it came across that way !! there’s a lot of nuance among languages that vary from area to area, so with an iffy statement like this it’s difficult to draw any solid conclusion. my main reason for the post was to clarify the contents of what yoongi said, as i’ve seen people to say that he never specified the ‘opposite sex’ in his statement, or claim that the interviewer was talking about race or something because that’s just not the case.

 

re: ã«é™ã‚‰ãš, it’s one of those tricky things to actually translate, isn’t it? i went with the ‘not limited to’ because that’s most commonly among people who’ve translated it. i toyed with how to word it, but ended up going with the more definitive ‘limited’ since it matched up with the literal of the hanja and like, took into account other things yoongi’s said and done, if that makes sense? but you’re right in saying that it’s not a statement, i’ll go back and change it to reflect that.

it's not incorrect, it's just one of those things where "limited" holds more value in English where a Japanese/Korean speaker might breeze over it. it's a minor difference in most cases (and thus translators tend to go literal), but in this case the slight nuance change has created a stir among English-speakers only (of course, societal awareness towards LGBT issues is also pertinent).

 

but yeah, there are ALWAYS fans in denial of shit like this ("no sehun oppa didn't actually say he likes men!!" ..um, yes he DID, it's just debatable to what extent he meant it though come on, we all know), happy to hide behind "mistranslation" when they don't like it, while going insane over unintended moments created from *actual* mistranslation that happen to buy into their fantasies.

 

it's always good to have people who have the knowledge to discuss what's ACTUALLY happening linguistically.

Edited January 4, 2019 by 25%Cotton

[25%Cotton]

 

Pasting a comment I've made before regarding the Yoongi quote. Apologies to those who've seen it before.

 

TL;DR: he almost certainly didn't out himself as bi.

 

This quote is often mistranslated or at least misinterpreted. The key expression "異性ã«é™ã‚‰ãš" does mean "not limited to the opposite sex", but in Japanese (and many other languages), "opposite sex" is a very common (and heteronormative) way of referring to the sex that someone (assumed straight) is romantically or sexually attracted to. My interpretation of that expression in this context is "not just people for whom there exists a romantic interest". When you consider the fact that it's unlikely Yoongi would out himself in a Japanese magazine interview in 2014, this interpretation makes much more sense than the alternatives.

 

Here's the original Japanese:

 

"僕ã¯æ€§æ ¼ã¨é›°å›²æ°—。僕ã¯æ±ºã¾ã£ãŸç†æƒ³ã®ã‚¿ã‚¤ãƒ—ã¨ã„ã†ã‚ˆã†ãªã‚‚ã®ã¯ãªã„ã§ã™ã€‚異性ã«é™ã‚‰ãšã€å°è±¡ã‚„相手ãŒé†¸ã—出ã—ã¦ã„る雰囲気ã§ã€ã‚ã£ã“ã®äººã¨ãƒ•ã‚£ãƒ¼ãƒªãƒ³ã‚°ãŒåˆã„ãã†ã‹ãªã¨ã„ã†ã“ã¨ã‚’é‡è¦–ã—ã¦ã„ã¾ã™ã€‚"

 

This is how I'd translate it:

 

"I look at personality and atmosphere. I don't have anything like a set ideal type. What's important for me—and not just with those of the opposite sex—is whether I feel I will click with that person judging from (first) impressions and the atmosphere they give off."

 

It certainly doesn't say "my ideal type is not limited to women". Of course, the fact that he's mentioning other genders at all could be significant—I'm not presenting a case for Yoongi being straight here. However, arguments for him being bi/pan/whatever probably shouldn't use this quote as a central piece of evidence. At the very least it isn't proof.

 

thank you

 

This is how I interpreted it too back then. In context it reads more like he was carefully dodging the question rather than providing a bold answer. He made it more general and not just about romance, and that's essentially what elevates the answer into something worth discussing years later- his decision to avoid answering the specific question and making it more neutral. That's interesting in and of itself and possibly hints at him seeing things other than gender as more important when clicking with people, but it's the evasion that provides this nuance and not the words themselves. It catches the eye but it's not evidence.

exactly. he's not stating literally that he is bisexual, but the fact that he's opening up the question to both genders at all is suspect (and quite sweet to their male fans)

Edited January 4, 2019 by 25%Cotton

[25%Cotton]

wow! was Sehunie horny or what??? With a bunch of other idols that would be willing to give him whatever he wants he checks out the camera man?? kkkkkk The comment "he's teasteles but brave" had on the floor kkkkkk

sorry this part just has so many things wrong with it.

[25%Cotton]

i liked that taiwanese drama "HIStory2 Crossing the Line," mostly because the plot wasn't solely romantic hijinks (basic but had some sense), one of the two actors was decent, and the kisses were very hot.

 

example:

 

still not an amazing show or anything but Â¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[25%Cotton]

All sexuality is limited to the bedroom. The only thing to really discuss is romantic attraction, and some asexual people can feel that too. As in a man can be homoromantic (have romantic feelings for another man) and be asexual (not feel any sexual attraction). But in general when people say asexual they usually mean both aromantic and asexual. So yes it would be very hard to know if someone is asexual, but isn't it the same for other sexualities unless you catch them dating someone else? I see people here saying "since I've not seen him interested in anyone, he's straight". Why not just say "I don't know" instead of that?

 

And, honestly, despite what I just said, I don't mind people not listing asexual when guessing people sexualities. Asexual people aren't oppressed, they just aren't understood so representation isn't really important. And I know some people have a hard time understanding it so they would rather not talk about it. What I mind is people saying things like "unnecessary to shove that kind of label at them". What is that supposed to mean? Asexuality is not an insult or a bad thing.

is this true? i lack the depth of knowledge required to make a real educated judgement, but the only out asexual person i know is very romantic (and strongly leaning homoromantic) — he’s just not sexual.

 

don’t know how common of a case his is though

Edited January 5, 2019 by 25%Cotton

[25%Cotton]

pls dont tell me im the only one looking at v's bulge lmao

where?

[25%Cotton]

i feel like i’ve gotten much older than this thread

Edited January 14, 2019 by 25%Cotton

[25%Cotton]

This isn't anything really, but when Key was asked first celebrity crush, he ended up saying BoA is his role model. Another example of why male idols being fans of female idols shouldn't be seen as evidence of heterosexuality:

 

 

"First kiss? Really!" *skips question*

 

well, not that he would have answered it anyway but still.

[25%Cotton]

This reminded me of something from when Shinee did that creepy noona love show way back just after their debut. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Key say his ideal woman was Chloe Sevigny lmaaooo???

 

That just screamed "I'm a cerebral fashion loving gay" to me.

well, let's also remember who BoA is.

 

(SF Pride performance in 2009:)

 

she's also best friends with TVXQ's Yunho ;)