where my hood unnies at 4,967 Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 this probably means nothing but it sure is cute Click here to view the Tweet 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
where my hood unnies at 4,967 Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.no/2018/03/kim-heechul-reveals-his-ideal-type-has.html it's honestly sad to see heechul still having to play along and act like he's head over heels in love with sohee.... the comment section on this article is just a hot ass mess. i literally saw someone write "It's 2018 and there are still people who think heechul is gay?" and "he's denied the rumors himself so why would he be gay?" like BITCH HOW DUMB AND BLIND AND DEAF CAN YOU POSSIBLY BE i had to exit the page because it's literally so fucking infuriating how oblivious straight people are about the glass closet phenomenon... like do yall not know what happened to hong seok cheon? 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
where my hood unnies at 4,967 Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 Especially with Holland saying that when he told a company he wanted to come out, they said, "Absolutely not." Straight people out there really thinking any LGBT person can just come out whenever they want... exactly! some comments are even along the lines of "he's such a liar and a coward. we already know you're gay so just come out already" like... they really think he's staying in the closet of his own volition just because it's SO MUCH FUN to live in a lie am i right!! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
where my hood unnies at 4,967 Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 Sadly I've even seen some gay people get mad at closeted celebrities. I saw a gay man that all closeted celebrities should be ashamed of themselves as they're throwing away a life of happiness for money and fame. It's sad how he didn't realise how hypocritical he was being, in a way. He gets mad at closeted celebrities for not coming out, yet when they do come out they lose fans or "they should stop flaunting that they're gay, sexuality is private". I believe it's mainly due to the fact that he has never actually been closeted himself like so many of us have. god i hate that so much.... and it's almost always some upper middle class guy who's lived a relatively sheltered life and thus thinks his experience is universal. not everyone has it that easy john! some of us live in places and sosioeconimic situations where being open about our sexuality is damn near impossible. it could threaten or jobs, living situations, family ties, friendships and even our lives. celebrities are especially vulnerable, and even moreso in countries like korea. like try some empathy maybe? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
where my hood unnies at 4,967 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 wow doyoung really IS catching feelings huh jungwoo is so powerful Click here to view the Tweet 16 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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where my hood unnies at 4,967 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 i know i've said this a million times already but jungwoo is so POWERFUL like his gay aura is literally irresistible to anyone within a 5 mile radius Click here to view the Tweet Potentially shippy Jeno and Jaemin I know this can easily come across as shippy and I saw it that way when I saw this in picture form, but honestly, I don't feel like that's a typical straight bro reaction AT ALL. Click here to view the Tweet It reminds me a lot more of my reaction to one of my ex's talking to someone who made me insecure back when we were a thing than just a usual friend reaction. He looks legitimately upset. i almost never believe in these "omg x is so jealous because x interacted with someone else!!" but gotdamn jaemin legit looks so betrayed lmao 20 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
where my hood unnies at 4,967 Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 Click here to view the Tweet mark doing the typical dudebro handshakes before renjun fiercly tries to kiss him is what gets me lmao 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
where my hood unnies at 4,967 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 I just found this funny tbh and also sightly relevant to the topic, since there's talks about studies and statistics here sometimes. Click here to view the Tweet And the dude in denial is probs Jaebum and Siwon. related to that daily mail article: i actually think it's extremely redundant and meaningless when scientists try to redefine sexuality by saying that "no one is 100% straight" just because self identified straight people also have a minor physical reaction to gay or lesbian porn. honestly, that means jack squat. most people will have some kind of reaction to intimacy and sensuality, regardless of what gender the subjects are. that doesn't mean they're genuinely attracted to those subjects or would like to engage in the same kind of sex. maybe it's because i view heterosexuality more as a form of social capital, and the closer you are in proximity to straightness (or even just emulating straightness through hypermasculinity or hyperfemininity) the more you benefit from it... but i just can't see how this "We Are All Queer" bullshit will help us gays in any way. it's basically the same tired shit that asexuals and kinksters have tried for over a decade, and it's done nothing but to further polarize the community. if straight people didn't exist, we wouldn't have to hide ourselves in fear of losing our jobs, apartments, legal rights, friends, family and even our lives. heterosexuality is more than just a sexuality, it's a position of power. i also think it's worth examining the way we use words like "bicurious" and "heteroflexible" when discussing idols. the only associations i get from those words are those straight people who'll use you as their experiment out of sheer curiosity and then throw you aside as soon as they realize they aint about that life. please just say bisexual if that's what you really mean. 29 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
where my hood unnies at 4,967 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 I agree to an extent, but I think an important take away is that many people would be more open to whatever it is that they're feeling without the power structure you're talking about pushing this idea of 1. A very rigid form of categorization. 2. The idea that almost everyone fits into one of those categories and almost no one fits into the other. They're really pushing two categories. Heteronormative culture basically insists indirectly that bisexuality -- logically the bulk of a spectrum/scale, in practical terms -- doesn't exist (especially for men) when multiple studies that are a lot less vague than this particular article, suggest that quite a few people would fit into the category we refer to as such. instead they're pressured into suppressing or hiding who they are. There are historical and natural precedents for bisexuality being much more common than people think or at least less of a problem for straight individuals than people think. All of that is to say embracing the heteronormative idea of "you're either straight or other"/"straight or gay" etc isn't necessarily helpful either in the long run. It ends up just being another form of "othering". But I could have completely misunderstood what you said so please feel free to correct me. I do agree with you wholeheartedly that straightness is a form of political and social capital. For what it's worth, I found out the hard way what heteronormative pressure can do to someone who is bi but not in a place culturally to live that reality. i guess under different circumstances a lot of the people who call themselves straight would lean more towards bisexual, if only it wasn't so taboo. it's fascinating to ponder about what could've been, but personally i have no interest in "what if"s or a hypothetical future. i'm more focused on reality as it exists today. the people used in this study are straight. they identify themselves as straight, they live a straight lifestyle and they have the ability to enact straight violence in the exact same capacity as any other straight person. their pupils dilating at the sight of same gender porn doesn't negate that. but i agree with you that especially bisexual men have long been underestimated by scientists. for years now they've tried to push the idea that women are just more sexually fluid in general, while men are either gay or straight. this is an extremely harmful idea, especially to bi men who are basically told they don't exist and also to lesbians who are told they're just not openminded enough. hopefully this study will at least put that whole mindset to bed. Honestly I very much disagree with this. I agree that the "We are all Queer" mindset doesn't help us practically, but viewing being queer as lacking "social capitol" is problematic to say the least. A lesbian living openly in San Francisco with little fear of homophobia isn't any less gay than a lesbian born in the deep south to homophobic parents. People who are queer are queer, regardless of whether they are "straight passing" or whatever. Its fine to discuss these things, I'm not denying that these people's struggles are equally difficult, just that it shouldn't be used as a measuring rod for how gay someone is. I'm not queer because I'm discriminated against for being so, I'm queer because I'm queer. Granted, that discrimination does exist and does shape how I view myself and the world, but that's a whole other conversation. Its in our best interest to be inclusive, because we lose nothing in doing so. The "asexual boogeyman" that everyone seems so scared of now has had many forms over the years in the gay community. Trans people have been kicked out of and then reintroduced into the queer community many times throughout gay history and there's still a sizable portion of LGB people who don't consider us a part of it. A decade or so ago, the same gatekeeping was happening with bisexual people. It was all the same arguments you hear about asexuals today too, "Oh look at these straight passing invaders coming into our spaces they have privilege they don't belong here!" But at the end of the day, "privilege" doesn't define whether a person is queer. Under your definition of heterosexuality as social capitol, a bisexual person in a heterosexual relationship is heterosexual. If someone's ability to "pass" as straight defines their position in or out of the queer community, are butch lesbians and femme gay men somehow more gay than their counterparts? The former are certainly more likely to be discriminated against but it doesn't make people who aren't any less deserving of a spot within the community. Do you see my point? I agree with you in the sense that I too think that redefining everyone as gay doesn't accomplish anything, but I just wanted to explain why I have a problem with your reasoning. well, as a femme lesbian i DO actually think i have more social capital than my butch counterparts. i can more easily move in and out of straight circles without facing the same level of oppression. unless i say otherwise, people always assume i'm straight. this doesn't make me "more straight" or any less part of the community, but it does make me closer in proximity to straightness as an institution. that's a pretty big difference that you seem to have misunderstood in my original post. i never meant to insinuate that our gayness is somehow measured by how much social clout we have. our own identity is obviously just as important as the lables imposed on us by others. but like i said, i have no interest in what if's. the idea that certain straight people COULD have some gay tendencies under different circumstances is just irrelevant to me. by that logic the straight girls who bullied me in high school and wrote dyke on my locker are also Queerâ„¢ for making out at a party once. it's fine that you disagree, but you have no right to call my way of thinking wrong or problematic just because it doesn't match your own. you're more individual oriented and i'm more society oriented, both ways of thinking are perfectly fine. 17 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
where my hood unnies at 4,967 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Click here to view the Tweet Wait what? sm is a spineless coward for not including that in the mv!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
where my hood unnies at 4,967 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Idrk who they are (I've only vaguely heard of Gray) but I thought their reactions were interesting Click here to view the Tweet gray has had his moments lol i wouldn't be surprised if he was bi 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
where my hood unnies at 4,967 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 khh artists aren't discussed much here.........any khh artist you think might be queer? i11evn straight up said he was bisexual in one of his songs so there's that gray, simon d, zion.t and zico are all fairly suspect as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
where my hood unnies at 4,967 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 I know its shippy but still Click here to view the Tweet jungwoo is such a player (x) 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
where my hood unnies at 4,967 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 At this point I don't even know whether BTS does that on purpose or the bi colors are just their new favorite colors but: i don't wanna rain on anyone's parade, but i think most koreans probably don't know about the bi pride colors. even in western countries people generally only associate the rainbow flag with lgbt people. jhope's daydream mv was suspect since it straight up looked like the flag (same order and everything), but in instances like this where it's really just a purple and blue gradient..... sadly i don't think it means anything. i've never seen this posted here so awestruck tae is the cutest! he seems to have a thing for the tall, dark and handsome actors 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
where my hood unnies at 4,967 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 It really doesn't matter if the majority know the meaning behind the color scheme, the question is really do the members of BTS know about the meaning. At this point I think we can confidently say they do. That said, the colors alone don't mean much on their own. I'll wait to pass any judgement until we get some comments, lyrics or mvs. yeah this wasn't so much about bts specifically, but moreso just kpop in general. we don't know how aware they are about the implications of color use and its relationship with the lgbt community, but if they really DID intend to make some kind of statement i think they'd be a little more straigtforward. i mean the teaser image i quoted is literally just a blue and purple gradient, without the pink. these colors also aren't that unique to bisexuals, since they're analogous colors aka. next to each other on the color wheel, and together create a very pretty combination. it's often used in stage lighting to create a contrast between hot and cold, and you can see it used for the same purpose in art, movies, mvs etc... like you said: the colors don't mean anything on their own so we'll have to wait for some kind of context. 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
where my hood unnies at 4,967 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 Mark really doesn't realize what he's saying sometimes lmao he said he was craving bananas like 3 minutes after Ten's "John's banana" joke as if Ten wasn't gonna clown him for it. I've been getting into the dreamies lately because I liked Go and there's so much drama the whole nomin thing, renjun in the middle but recently obsessed with mark, mark being...... mark lmao he's apparently more christian than we thought and prays every single night and bought haechan a bible (who even knows what he did to prompt this gift) but is also obsessed with his "pretty legs" and is overall a gay magnet, haechan loves skinship and seems chill with girls - not sure what either of these things mean, I got nothing on chenle and jisung seems done with all the gay drama. There hasn't been all that much said about the dreamies because some people get weird about the thought that 17 year olds might be bi/gay because apparently people that age are still clueless asexual babies, I guess I didn't get the memo. lmao all the 00' liners are a force to be reckoned with honestly and let me tell you, jisung is TIRED i can't get a read on chenle either. so far i just know he's a very sweet, thoughtful and openminded boy who doesn't subscribe to toxic masculinity. 31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
where my hood unnies at 4,967 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 https://mobile.twitter.com/taeminlesbian/status/975818869754351616 This literally made me burst out laughing Sent from my SM-A520W using OneHallyu mobile app jun has expressed disinterest in women so many times yet people (even here) still categorize him as one of the straights or at most bisexual lmao WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!! OPEN YOUR THIRD EYE AND SEE THE TRUTH!! HE IS GAY YOU COWARDS!! G A Y 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
where my hood unnies at 4,967 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 jungwoo please.... even god rested for one day Click here to view the Tweet 21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
where my hood unnies at 4,967 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Why does everyone think Winwin is straight? jw i guess most nctzens just think so because he hates skinship and pretty much all winwin ships are onesided... him being pegged as the straightie could also be because he's said some hypermasculine "REAL MEN SHOULD--" comments and generally seems more on the no homo side. i can't really pin him down, but he's had his fair share of eyebrow raising moments, and besides, there are plenty masc4masc guys who act the same way so i always take that with a grain of salt. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
where my hood unnies at 4,967 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Click here to view the Tweet hhdgdhfggd i'm yuta trying his hardest to act like he didn't just see jungwoo arch his back for doyoung on live broadcast 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
where my hood unnies at 4,967 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 my thoughts on nct are for the most part in line with the general consensus, but here they are anyways: Taeil - straight Johnny - i fluctuate between bisexual and just a very openminded ally Taeyong - gay thru and thru. i can't believe so many of you still thinks he likes girls omg... Yuta - straight Doyoung - straight Ten - G A Y !!! the gayest gay to have ever gayed Kun - no idea (fun fact: i tried writing 'no idea' like 4 times inn a row but instead wrote 'bi idea'... is this a sign or am i just way too tired lmao) Jaehyun - bisexual or gay, but definitely on the fruity side Winwin - straight Jungwoo - gay Lucas - straight Mark - i actually think he's a full blown home of sexual, but part of that is probably just me projecting because he reminds me of a younger me so idk Renjun - no idea Jeno - gay or bi Haechan - straight Jaemin - gay Chenle - no idea Jisung - straight I'm a little bit disappointed with the lack of Shownu receipts though. He pings me as bisexual (''at least'' biromantic). Any thoughts? for some reason shownu has always striked me as gay, but i'll have to look for more repeipts to get back to you. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
where my hood unnies at 4,967 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 before someone jumps me: yes i'm fully aware this is pure fanservice lol Click here to view the Tweet 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
where my hood unnies at 4,967 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 (x) jeez mark is tense... 18 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
where my hood unnies at 4,967 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Ok I still think Mark is straight and LGBT-friendly but just not to the point where he's totally comfortable with other guys kissing and touching him even in "joking" ways. And a lot of straight people are like this, so I don't see him being "confused" or anything. And don't even start this "toxic masculinity" bullshit or whatever. However, I'm starting to have second thoughts about Haechan... the thing that's suspect about mark tho is that according to the other members he LOVES skinship, but as soon as the cameras start rolling he goes into this rigid, awkward, "please don't touch me" mode. i think he's very scared of being perceived as gay. notice how he's always the first one to react to any gay stuff, even if it doesn't involve him. at first i just brushed it off as him being very self aware, but he literally gets SO NERVOUS it's like you can feel the anxiety through the screen. it reminds me of myself when i was in the closet and constantly paranoid that people would somehow find out. snowball project is what initially opened my eyes. that show was literally 80% shy and flustered mark. as soon as he walked into the room he was already picking up on the romantic atmosphere they kinda laughed it off, but mark sounded so sincere and grateful when he said this. gay panic doesn't even begin to cover this all gifs by zeusmayo 33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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