Which male idols do you think are gay?

[Melany]

8 minutes ago, dumdidumdi said:

They're saying that using that as proof that they dated is the same as saying he is dating any of the other people he was with, not that people don't go on vacation with their significant others.

Obviously none of us know if they dated or not, but we don't really have any proof that they did. Them hanging out is only a big deal because she is a woman, and it's scandalous for a male idol to hang out with an "alternative" looking woman like her. And as for the back hug, a reporter said the whole CCTV footage showed him hugging  everyone there, but obviously the people that leaked those photos wanted to create drama so they took a pic of the most scandalous moment.

And regardless, JK and Mijoo could've dated, or they could be dating still, but that doesn't erase his attraction towards men if he has some? He could be bi, and I'm leaning more towards bi when it comes to him anyway. Using rumors of a 15 year old JK having a girlfriend doesn't disprove anything either.

In my opinion, he is very obviously attracted to men (such as Hobi and Namjoon). I don't understand using his "reactions" to women performing as proof? That never achieves anything. And you could use him not reacting to that iconic Hwasa moment as proof that is not interested in women, so it works both ways.

I think a better proof of his attraction to (and possible relationship with) men is what rumored sasaeng and confirmed scammer headlined said about him:

I'm pretty sure she is a sasaeng since she was apparently hanging out with a Tae sasaeng, so if true she knows more about JK than all of us together. He needs to find "a proper girl" to get over his "mental sickness". I don't know, sounds pretty homophobic to me. And the original OP that translated this said that she also used derogatory language generally used towards women or gay men.

then why she talked about him having to "hold it" i think he is single and she was just angry at him, korean use " mental ilness" a lot when they want insult someone. She meant that maybe he will be less annoying if he get a gf. like when you get angry at someone and say " you are annoying because you are single, maybe you should date". 

In my opinion, he is very obviously attracted to men (such as Hobi and Namjoon)

fanservice just like vkook and jikook

And you could use him not reacting to that iconic Hwasa moment as proof that is not interested in women, so it works both ways.

He turned his head to watch it on a bigger screen. Also him reacting like that show that he was afraid to show reaction, if he was gay he would just watch it with no reaction. he would not turn his head

Edited September 21, 2020 by Melany

[Melany]

8 minutes ago, blurrr said:

Calm down, you won't marry him anyway 

Pathetic argument,  "this person think an idol is straight mean its a straight fangirl!!!" I could say the same about you, this gay fanboy want to marry him or this lesbian doesnt want to stan a straight guy so she hopes he is gay. 

Also im not a bts stan. 

[Melany]

21 minutes ago, Bushi said:

 

But it's obvious that you have zero respect for the spirit of a dedicated LGBT thread. Even if you don't agree with the sentiment.  

We've had pages and pages of you arguing Jungook is straight because you think he is. That's absolutely your right and that's fine. But it'd be like me turning up on a male x female dating thread and not knowing when to stop fighting that they're gay. In a forum of people who are not interested in gayness. It doesn't happen because, live and let live.  

If people are interested in Jungkook's purported girlfriends I'm sure there are umpteen threads on OH to debate it until the cows come home. 

Re: Headliner. She's a fucking nutcase and there's no more to say about that. 

 

"zero respect" no, i posted here and talk about idol being gay as well. You can't talk about homosexuality without bringing up heterosexuality. 

And i saw plenty times, in some dating thread, people bringing up that their bias is gay so nothing wrong here. 

You are quit hypocritical since if i would have just said he is straight, you would ask "okay show arguments then" you can't say he is straight without explaining why. But now that i did , im apparently derailing the thread because i don't fit with your jungkook is gay, lgbt, sjw genderfluid she/them/they theory. 

 

 

[Melany]

44 minutes ago, Bushi said:

Err, yes you can.

That's what the sign on the door's for.  

We're not here to have massive straight fights because you think we should. You shouldn't need this spelling out. It's not what the thread is for when it becomes a running battle.  

I was polite to you and you persist in being aggressive. You say I'm 'hypocritical' but you must be in some kind of blind rage because my only post on this matter wasn't to you. It was a general musing about the possible validity of Rennis and stating Jungkook's sexuality could go either/any way for me. So don't put words in my mouth which I haven't said or implied.

Don't even try and pull a fast one there. 

 

 

Err, yes you can.

That's what the sign on the door's for.  

no, i won't, i will talk here about who i feel is straight or gay how much i want and you can't do anything about it. homosexuality won't even exist without heterosexuality, your parents are heterosexual right?  you wouldn't be born if they didn't copulate.

And i say this as a non straight person.

I was polite to you and you persist in being aggressive. You say I'm 'hypocritical' but you must be in some kind of blind rage because my only post on this matter wasn't to you. It was a general musing about the possible validity of Rennis and stating Jungkook's sexuality could go either/any way for me. So don't put words in my mouth which I haven't said or implied.

I wasn't talking to you specifically, i was talking to everyone isn't the pronoun "you" used as plural too?  stop playing the victim there

 

 

Edited September 21, 2020 by Melany

[Melany]

1 hour ago, reiichi said:

I'm a bisexual woman who's married to a man and has two kids.

Being in a serious relationship with someone of the opposite sex doesn't make me or anyone straight. 

your relationship with your husband is heterosexual, doesn't matter if you are bi, your kids are still the fruit of a man and a woman

1 hour ago, dumdidumdi said:

 

What doesn't fit your narrative of edgy fuckboy Jungkook is him saying he wants to paint his nails, or douse himself in Victoria Secret's perfume, which, as far as I'm aware, is the narrative of reality.  

I don't know why you proport this fanon narrative of muscle pig JK that only has eyes for IU 

never said that, it's you who is actually assuming straight= fuckboy . "who only have eyes for IU" also never said that you should reread my post before quoting me. I didn't even use IU as argument of him being straight, i said i didn't think he liked her in a romantic way. He just likes her music like troye music or ariana. I used her as an example after a person said him liking Justin bieber is not straight. 

[Melany]

58 minutes ago, raspberry84 said:

Do you show up at pride parades and ask "but what about the cis straight people?"

Also, that's a pretty big assumption that their parents are straight. This is clearly a case of bi-erasure and ignoring gay & lesbian couples who have had children. Not all parents are straight, not all babies are the result of sex, etc.

Not to mention parents who came out later in life but had married young and had children. Their children was the result of sex with the opposite gender, not of their heterosexuality.

I don't, it's just that you can't ignore heterosexuality. Seems like some of you think gay is the default sexuality. 

Also, that's a pretty big assumption that their parents are straight. This is clearly a case of bi-erasure and ignoring gay & lesbian couples who have had children. Not all parents are straight, not all babies are the result of sex, etc.

Okay so what the percentage of her parents being both of the same gender? 1.1 %? homoparental family is still kinda rare. Also as i said no matter if someone has 2 mothers or fathers, he is still the fruit of sex between a man and a woman so a heterosexual relationship. You own your life to an heterosexual relation ship. As far as i know 2 ova or 2 spermatozoide can't give life. At least yet. 

 

[Melany]

4 hours ago, raspberry84 said:

1. You can be dating someone of the opposite sex, that doesn't mean you are heterosexual. Therefore, someone could have a mom and dad but still not have two straight parents. One or both could identify as bi or pan for example.

You are not heterosexual but you are in a heterosexual relation ship, stop repeting the same shit over.

2. Rarity doesn't mean it doesn't exist. You still made an assumption that their parents were straight. That's heteronormative.

the whole world is heternomative, you can't change that just by claiming it on a random forum.

3. You can have a child without having sex. Sperm donations, invitro, etc. Those are acts that don't involve two members of the opposite sex having sex.

its kind of recent, so most people aren't born this way yet, but it still requiere a sperm and an ova so again= woman +man

4. There have also been situations where trans men have given birth while in a gay relationship because they are pre-op. Same for trans women if they are in a lesbian relationship and pre-op. 

because they have a vagina, so doesn't matter how they identify they are still biologically a woman

5. You can have sex with the opposite gender and still not be heterosexual. Really, this term "heterosexual relationship" you are throwing around is nonsense and used by people who try to invalidate and erase bi and pan sexualities.. 

well it's still involve a man and a woman no matter how you hard it to be not hetero it's still hetero

 

5 hours ago, Gentle_fox said:

You're really out here doing the most, it irked me when you said "And yeah some eboys can be gays." <---that type of syntax is usually used by people who are not lgbt or homophobic/ignorant...the fact that you're still out here being adamant about straight jungkook, dismissing bisexuality because children are "the fruit of heterosexuality" tells me that you might be the latter. "Some of you think gay is the default" <---again something that no one from lgbt population would say, in fact we  would say the opposite when people like you continue to push this hetero narrative on everyone (idols), the fact that you are wasting so much energy in twisting your justifications just screams that you are not being faithful in your arguments, but just trying to push an agenda that has been pushed on us for many years in the real world. This forum isn't that deep, it specifically states "which male idols do you think are gay?" Not straight, and yes we can have a discussion about it, and disagree but the fact that 3/4 pages in you're still out here pushing this lenient homophobic bs speaks volume about what your true intentions are. 

"this person think differently and doesn't think 2/3 of a kpop group is gay, they must be straight" again pathetic argument

"dismissing bisexuality" you are pulling it out of your ass or? seems like some of you arrived without reading my posts and just thought" OMG a straight fangirl!!!! attack  her" So i never said he was straight because he showed attraction to women, i said i thought he was straight because he never showed attraction to men. People always use some bs like " golden closet" (when they were poor he used to film in this closet) or " playlist" 

"homophobic bs speaks volume about what your true intentions are" never said it, now gonna say"Gay are still the minority so logically 3/4 of a kpop group can't be gay" and don't even try to pull out the " but gay love the music industry so they flock to it". Nop most korean guy, straight or gay, dream of fame, and money.