Which male idols do you think are gay?

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3 hours ago, yohseung said:

Please tell me more about Shownu please? Have yall seen the interactions between Shownu and Minhyuk?

I haven't seen anything particularly odd in their relationship, could you share some interactions that are noteworthy to you?

That interaction that you linked is really cute, but it's just everyone being supportive of Minhyuk, I don't see anything special in what Shownu specifically has said. He was just pointing out that Minhyuk has an amazing track record when it comes to cross dressing/wearing dresses compared to the rest of them and he's god damn right, Dior was on another level. I'm quite happy seeing how far they've all come, seeing as back in the No Mercy days there was an improvised diss rap where they mentioned something like "Minhyuk stop wearing headbands, you're like a girl," and there was also that time Jooheon made it weird with Jackson from what I remember. In summation, Minhyuk seems to be really close with every single member. 

Shownu is a total het honestly. I think it was someone here who said that he looks like a somewhat naive guy from gay porn lmao, but that's all there is to him - his appearance is the ideal type for gay men. He actually got into a scandal for hooking up with someone's wife and his alleged one night stand with some woman was exposed too, it was all quite nasty. So according to all accounts, he's het and kinda a fuckboy (like most male idols I'd imagine). 

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13 minutes ago, irima said:

Hi, sorry but please can you explain what weird thing Jooheon did to Jackson.

Under spoiler cause I'm not sure if I remember it correctly.

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When the two were on celebrity bromance, Jackson was jokingly flirting the tiniest bit, and Jooheon was very nohomo about it. I hope someone remembers the full interaction or corrects me if I just hallucinated the whole thing. 

 

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14 minutes ago, zhili said:

I think several members of Monsta X are bi or gay (Minhyuk pings the most out of all of them) and the others are completely OK with it.

I think Minhyuk and Wonho are the obvious choices, but is there anyone else in your opinion? Hyunwon's image pings a lot of people, myself included initially, but when I properly got into the group I realized that he was very different in reality. Kihyun is practically married to Bona. Jooheon seems straight too. The only one left is IM and I'm not sure if he's just a horny and edgy e-boy or if there's anything else there. 

20 minutes ago, zhili said:

Jooheon also made supportive comments to a gay fan during a V live with Wonho, so if he was homophobic in the past he isn't anymore. 

He also said "No matter who you are and who you love, I love you" in a speech. I think he's a good ally nowadays. 

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13 minutes ago, Wnnabe said:

But what's with Bona and Kihyun? I heard about the rumors but did they sound believable?

It wasn't really a rumor, but rather a proper report that they've been dating pretty much since debut. There were no pictures of the two of them, so Starship could deny it, kinda like what happened with Momo and Heechul initially. I tend to believe that it's true, but YMMV.

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14 minutes ago, yohseung said:

It was the way Shownu found Minhyuk pretty but had trouble admitting it fully and also him noticing the "glitter and shading" makeup on Minhyuk's face.

He openly said all of that, so it's not like there's anything going on there that he'd like to hide in terms of his feelings if you ask me. To me he sounds like a supremely straight dude in a heteronormative society not really knowing what to think or say about a guy who is acting in a gender noncomforming way, but ultimately wanting to be supportive. 

One time they played a game where they had to raise someone's heart rate through seductive dancing and they had  Shownu as the target. The ultimate unbeatable het lol. 

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1 hour ago, JiminsOppa said:

You...you do get that the 'internet slang' came from the word same and the f word pushed together right? And from 4chan of all places. It is literally the slur, and when queer men tell you to stop using it, maybe stop using it rofl.

Not to drag this further lol, but you just called out someone for using a slur while using another homophobic slur yourself as an umbrella term for gay and bi men. Your point stands, but practice what you preach. You can only refer to yourself with a slur and those who explicitly say they are fine with it. There's no such thing as queer men/women/people because queer means strange, and it's not strange to not be straight.  

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43 minutes ago, JiminsOppa said:

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Dear god...

I am a gay man. I am allowed to say the phrase 'queer man' and reclaim it considering the word 'queer' has historically been used against my people.  So when I say 'stop doing something offensive to queer men when queer men tell you not to', I am quite literally referring to myself, as the queer man, who is telling this other user to stop using slurs that are explicitly and exclusively used against queer men. You do not get to tell me, a queer man, to not use the phrase 'queer man', if that's how I feel comfortable describing myself. People who identify as LGBT+ are allowed to self describe as queer, its very normalised now. 

In terms of the f word, the ONLY people allowed to reclaim it are queer identifying men. It has always exclusively been used as a slur against us. Any woman on this thread using that word, is being deeply offensive. Any straight man using it is being deeply offensive. I am allowed to refer to myself as the F word if I like, because its a word that's reclamation belongs to people like me, but women and straight men ARE NOT. Just as people who aren't black can't reclaim the n word - it's not hard to understand. 

The fact that this even needs to be explained here is pretty mind boggling, and makes me wonder just how many straight shippers there are on here who wouldn't know a gay man from a tomato.

 

 

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You said "queer men" - plural, not "a queer man", so it's logical to conclude that you referred to multiple people who criticized Josaline for using a slur, not yourself specifically. I think I've made it pretty clear that you can reclaim it for yourself, no need to put words in my mouth or immediately diagnose me as terminally het lol. 

 

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It's definitely a mixture of factors like homophobia and racism, probably more so the second imo, but I think a huge one was the fact that he was dating someone who could have ended up in the same group as him in the future. Like, if it was a co-ed group, it would have still been a big problem. Pledis too seemed to have a dating ban specifically for Seventeen trainees, although they were free to date outside of that. It's harsh, but it's a sensible business decision. 

5 hours ago, AstroBaby said:

there's always a big deal made out of the 'purity' of their artists and how strictly they follow dating bans so that story doesn't really surprise me at all tbh

There is an emphasis on their artists being good people for sure, but I've never gotten the impression that they did more propaganda on the dating ban than any other company, correct me if I'm wrong. Jackson even said openly that JYP doesn't have a dating ban for real, it's more of a recommendation. The fact that Twice fans unironically believed that there was ever a dating ban is their own issue lol. 

I honestly really don't think that they were unable to tell that Jo Kwon is gay, but were probably more willing to invest in him cause they found him safer (not dating a potential future member) and more marketable (he was ruling the varieties back then). It's all about which kid can be a stable source of income in the end. I mean, even baby Jo Kwon was like this, who could have missed it lol?

https://www.instagram.com/p/4j5tkGSqgL/

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I don't know if Soobin and Changmin wanted to do things to signal to their fans that they are friends without explicitly saying so cause that might motivate antis to harass one or the other (like Kasahara), but it's undeniable that they have matching items and that they've done stuff that would qualify as lovestagram if they are actually a couple. Obviously we have no way of knowing, but I'm surprised by some of these posts being clowned so much cause imo this is the most believable theorized gay relationship between two male idols that I've ever seen. I don't see this kind of clowning for supposed gay relationship between 2 members in the same group who have literally had het dating scandals. 

And even before all this, Soobin seemed pretty gay to me, and Changmin seemed bi, so everything just ended up clicking into place for me. 

Like that second matching bracelet that Soobin bought for Changmin? They wore it for months. Every single day. To official schedules, performances, photoshoots, vlives, the bracelet was there on their hands. I know that friends do matching items as well, but from what I've observed it's generally not consistent like this at all. 

That time when they went to a pizza place and both uploaded pictures from there? Could be nothing, could be lovestagram. 

Whatever this was.

Like I've said, it's totally possible that they are literally just great friends and they want us to know that, but within the broader context of all the stuff that they have done in the past to indicate that without actually saying it, even that bunny doodle is reminiscent of lovestagram to me, especially with the way it's mostly hidden. It's as if it's intended only for someone in particular, and that feels exactly like the kind of cringy and arguably irresponsible thing that young idols will do when they enter a relationship and want the entire world to know that but can't say it.

I know it's het so it's not exactly the same, but het couples have literally gone on the same music shows wearing matching items and have held hands on the stairs. I think that celebrities in same sex relationships will have the desire to engage in the customs surrounding Korean dating culture just as well. Most will probably refrain, but most likely there has to be at least a few who won't. And unless they are caught kissing, everything can easily be chalked up to just friendship anyway. Overall I'm like 50-50 sure of it, which is honestly way more than what I could say for some other supposedly 10 year long relationships that have survived het dating and prostitution parlor scandals lol. 

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I respect that people will disagree, after all, I'm far from being entirely sold myself. I agree that the bunny stuff is on the weaker side. There's also stuff like Changmin's favorite flower being sunflower, and Soobin changing his answer over time to his favorite flower being sunflower as well. That's really neither here nor there for me, but funnily enough the sunflower stuff was used by Kasahara in her fabricating a het dating scandal, so it's noteworthy how stuff like that is considered solid proof for het relationships on the other hand. The bar is clearly way lower, to a point where people were ready to believe a woman who tried to argue that Soobin got her pregnant lmao. 

I don't know about others, but for me this has nothing to do with shipping cause up until recently the 2 had zero interactions really. Even now, they just have 2 tiktoks where they dance, like, how do you ship with just that? I just looked at the stuff that they do, figured yeah, that sounds like it could be a real relationship. 

As for how something is lovestagram if it was posted 2 days apart, idols have to wait for an okay from their manager to be able to post their photos which can sometimes take a while and a manager can schedule them for whenever they want, so I figure something like that can explain it. Imo posting photos 2 days apart with the same pose and the same caption is far less likely to be a coincidence than not, especially since the first photo also said "sending you a signal." So for me it's more of a question of whether it's lovestagram or just wanting the fans to know that they are friends, rather than is it intentional or not. 

It's true that some people will believe that idols are dating based on them wearing the same sponsored/trendy outfits, and you could put their bear hoodies in that category. It's not the most concrete evidence in the world. But that's where it ends for most idols - at wearing a trendy article of clothing for like 1 day. I have genuinely never seen a male idol making a whole ass matching bracelet for another man, and then receiving a matching bracelet in return which both wore for months.

I legit wanna now, can anyone provide one example of 2 male idols from different groups religiously wearing a matching friendship item like that? At 3 examples I'll be ready to eat my words entirely. I'm basing myself in my own culture, plus what I know of the Korean one, so I'm always open to being proven wrong. I do wonder if people would feel differently if they saw what I did, which is a twitter thread with over hundred pictures of the bracelet being goddamn everywhere all the time for 4 months straight lol (OP deleted due to harassment so it's gone now). 

My point being, aside from the bracelets, you could easily pick apart most other stuff on the individual level. But they don't exist individually like with other idols, so I tend to look at them all together too. 

2 hours ago, LostChild said:

I thought Mingyu got into a controversy for making very explicit and graphic art of naked women ?

I know it will sound hypocritical of me since my opinion on Jaehyun is that he's bi but it's likely that the 97 line is a crew of mostly het guys just like the original Kpop idol F4 was (minus Jaejoong maybe).

I don't think that people who asserted based on his "art" that he's some serial killer waiting to happen had a case really lol, but I would still argue that it is like a really het male thing (and a really pretentious thing) to make. 

The Itaewon4 crew is so painfully het to me. When people confidently say that Mingyu is gay, I legit can't even see the crumbs of that as a Seventeen fan. 

Lucas is a good example because many people could tell that he was clearly a het fuckboy even before, and although none of the Itaewon4 seem as bad as him in the fuckboy department (keyword: as bad lol), they do seem that obviously het to me. 

Edit: Man, the clowning situation seems to have gotten worse since I've last been here, huh. The real clowning is the het fuckboys we thought were gay along the way

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1 minute ago, temiiro said:

but logically thinking about it, if there are mlm idols dating (and of course there are) we wouldn't really even get a hint.

Didn't those two nugus date openly? I know that the issue ended up being kinda vague in the end. There was also that one nugu talking casually on a livestream with his members about liking boys. 

Apart from nugus, we've also got stuff like EXO members hinting more than once that Sehun and Tao aren't straight which ok, you could say that it's not the people who could be gay doing it so it's different, but then there are also G-dragon's half gay and bottoms do it better likes. Some people just do not care. 

Point being, it is statistically impossible that absolutely every single same-sex couple involving idols will be super responsible and hidden. I think it's totally valid to say that all this being lovestagram is unlikely due to the fact that they could be risking their careers, but to consider it as definitive proof is reductive to me. Young idols have been routinely risking their careers, from driving while under the influence, to visiting prostitution parlors, doing drugs and hooking up with hot sasaengs (or the rich ones in Lucas' case lol). 

19 minutes ago, temiiro said:

about this part, kino from pentagon and woodz. kino talked about having a sleepover with him, they promote each other a lot and kino even wore his shoes.(liked them so much that woodz sold them to him)

Yeah, but this sounds more chill to me, it's certainly not anything like wearing a matching bracelet every single day.

21 minutes ago, temiiro said:

i think it's a bit unnecessary(/counterproductive?) to theorize about idols dating by having matching items and such, because, well, don't you have matching items with your friends? i do. so where's the line between platonic and romantic?

I genuinely don't, and in my culture this is something only some 12 year old girls might feel the need to do, so that does inform my view and it's why I'd like to know if 2 men wearing matching bracelets for 4 months straight is supposed to be common elsewhere. 

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9 minutes ago, yelloww said:

I'm kinda lost, who's Kasahara? and what dating scandal are you referring to?

Kasahara is a really famous bg anti who's been active for over 10 years now. I think she was discussed in this thread too a few pages back, so you can check that. Semi recently she wrote about Changmin having a girlfriend, but deleted like few minutes later when people started pointing out that it was her insane ass doing it [LINK]. You might know some of her recent work such as Park Jihoon cheating on his girlfriend with an Afreeca BJ (debunked) [LINK], SF9 "meeting conditions" (debunked) [LINK], and Hyunjin and Karina dating (debunked) [LINK]. She also tried to claim that Soobin knocked her up  lmao and that Beomgyu is bullying the members. Anyway, I'm just endlessly fascinated by her, her desire to do all this, and how after 10 years she still often manages to succeed in making people believe in her false allegations. 

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5 hours ago, SuperBase said:

I am not sure about beomgyu (he looks like someone who is gay for sponsor).

There is such a thing as gaydar, but what even would be gay-for-sponsordar? It's true that some idols from big agencies have sponsors too, but how would you even begin to figure that out without hearing a rumor? How does one look sponsorsexual? 

12 hours ago, RedVelvetCake said:

Korean Twitter. You can believe me or not. But I can't tell you more.

Not sure if this is a bait or not, but I think it bares repeating anyway that Korean twitter is not some magical place of hidden knowledge you unlock once you learn Korean. It's just twitter, but in Korean. It's all the same nonsense. Someone's opinion or rumor is not suddenly way more credible just cause it's written in Korean, so I wouldn't form my opinions on idols based purely on what someone on the internet said regardless of the language their post was written in. 

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I totally agree with everything that others have said previously about why we shouldn't put idols on the spot with these super personal confessions of sexuality and gender crises, but the pessimist in me wants to add one more thing. 

I am truly convinced that, had K-pop not gone global, half of these supposed LGBT ally kings would be telling these fans that they have no goddamn clue what they are talking about at best, and some would be visibly and vocally grossed out even. And realistically I think idols still don't have a goddamn clue half the time what fans mean when they are coming out to them as demisexual panromantics, but they have been taught to nod their head and act like they care. 

Back in the day when idols were asked about gay rights, they would say things like "We are not like that, we are all real men," or "Love is only between a man and a woman." This only stopped routinely happening within the last 4-5 years or so. I cannot stress enough how this is not a natural evolution of young people becoming more educated and open minded, but rather just a consequence of all these groups suddenly having a chance to break into the western market, so their agencies have learned that blatant homophobia won't fly anymore. 

Basically, I'd rather idols genuinely speak out from their own heart unprompted in support of the LGBT community so I can know it's most likely genuine instead of being put on the spot like that. 

Also, as mentioned previously, I totally think that a lot of these fans mention this sort of stuff to their idols just to see their reaction, and some of them are motivated by their fetishization of male homosexuality. It's become popular for straight fangirls to insist that they ship 2 members of the same group cause they passionately support gay people, and not just cause, you know, it makes them feel a certain way lol. I still remember reading an article on Larrys who were insisting that they were championing for some social justice cause by shipping these 2 men lol. (link) My favorite part remains "We don't know [Styles and Tomlinson's] sexual orientations — we just don't," Jorie explains. "Just because we say they are in love, no one is denying them the ability to be pansexual, bi, or any number of different sexualities there are." Like, straight is just out of the question, bless them lmao. 

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5 hours ago, bb8__ said:

 

Since the remake was announced, I was thinking how they could fix the original plot in order to make it less hideously offensive, and I concluded that the only thing that they could reasonably keep in order to be able to call it a remake could be the reincarnation trope alone. But it seems like with this casting that they are committed to making a proper remake and I just gotta ask Dear Lord, why have you abandoned us? 

People were suggesting that Jaehyun's character could be a uni student, but that still really doesn't change the inappropriate dynamic of student-teacher relationships, and then there's also...everything else. 

How is this real and going to be remade in 2021? Who asked for this? This thing is like an onion, so many layers and the more you peel, the more it makes you cry. 

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Is this a fever dream? I've just been casually catching up with the posts: Jimin gets het dating rumors which may have led to eventually @mEeEeE getting taken seriously by someone? What is this lmao? 

@mEeEeE used to spam (and I mean spam) the thread with how Taeyong is gay and this was downvoted a lot by some. You can verify this by going back in time far enough. Then slowly people started to accept them, kinda like noise pollution in a busy city, your brain automatically filters that out. Then they started talking about how Taeyong likes women, so people's brains got tripped up and they started downvoting them again. 

Anyway I think the days of people having actual breakdowns in here over idols turning out to be het are loooong over with. Even during the Heechul/Momo scandal, while there were many posts being made, no one was losing their mind over it, there was just a lot of discussion on reframing Heechul's words and actions and whether bearding is a thing in kpop and in what form. If Sehun ever ends up in a het dating scandal, we'll lose our minds, but it'll all be in good fun. I don't think that any posters here are in need of an intervention really. 

You can express here that you think that an idol is het, but most people value the (perceived) intent. Regular users do it routinely and are only met with discussion, but if a totally random person shows up only to declare the usual that BTS are straight  , that's predictably going to be met with clowns despite it being a completely real possibility. 

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I don't think that Koreans consider Mingyu feminine because he's not even feminine by more rigid western standards unless he's put in particular (artificial) situations. He's just kinda...a completely average dude to me. 

Rather, this is Mingyu's idol image. And I'm fairly positive on that one because the same words keep being repeated since his debut: "housewife" and "strong/tall but feminine." These words are meant to condense and quickly explain what's supposed to be his charm point as an idol. The fact that he's "strong but feminine" is particularly telling to me as a weeb cause this is standard gap moe formula - the cuteness comes from a gap between strong appearance and unexpectedly soft personality. 

Another thing to note is that this housewife Mingyu stuff was insisted upon in the debut era, but has been used less over time which is how it usually goes with idols - more strict image during debut period for easier marketability, afterwards idols can be more themselves as they get better at being entertaining. They would often try to talk about how Mingyu cooks and clean, but then when they elaborate a bit, you see him cleaning a clean apartment for a video or hear that he cooks ramen from a package lmao. One time when fans asked if Mingyu has been cooking or cleaning lately, Jeonghan told them not to get fooled by an image lol. 

Idk, guy has a fashion sense I guess and is open to acting cute during varieties, I never saw much beyond that in him. Even his friends seem really straight lol. 

Even though Seventeen is my favorite group I'm super unsure about everyone, as much as I'm a passionate Seungkwan gay truther. But there's definitely an overlap in people who are tripping me up: Seungkwan, Jun and Joshua. Hoshi is a barsexual (not validt /jk). 

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3 hours ago, boredoutofmymind said:

some of the evidence that is used to prove something about sehun is some of the jokes his exo members have made implying he doesn't like women, but part of me wonders if someone were actually gay, if their members would actually go there you know so I'm a little torn on that

But the thing that always gets me is that the jokes that they made were just "Sehun is quite literally gay lol." It's not like when Hoshi imitates Seungkwan's limp wrist which makes people think that the members wouldn't joke about that if Seungkwan was actually gay (and I'm not one of those people). It was literally Chen and Xiumin I believe jokingly hinting at something as if they were in their inner circle of SM celebrities and not on live radio (and we've observed in the last few days that some idols literally have peanuts for brains).

They said that they couldn't pick Sehun as a member that they would date if they were girls cause of the girl part, and Ryeowook, as a marginally more sensible adult, said that they will be skipping the justification due to privacy reasons. What Ryeowook said didn't seem like a joke at all, it seemed like he was trying to quickly change topics, although he did it in a way that made it even more obvious what they were hinting at. So is Ryeowook in on making Sehun gay jokes, like does the entire SM just find this joke hilarious even though it's based on nothing, or is Sehun for real just not straight and kinda open about it within the company so even Ryeowook is aware of it too? 

It wouldn't surprise me if Sehun was bi cause hets tend to think that bi men are gay and that bi women are straight (everyone has to be attracted to men in the end lol), but I cannot really buy that he's straight.

"He/they wouldn't do this if he was actually gay" does not fly as a reasoning to me cause we have been shown time and time again that idols would absolutely do that. From idols acting like idiots in general, saying stupid offensive stuff and exposing themselves and their members, to gay idols just being visibly gay cause they cannot or don't want to hide that part of themselves, it all continues to happen. It really is true that some people get tricked into that "so gay he's straight" logic, but not every gay or bi person in Korea has overwhelming internalized homophobia and an urge to hide who they are. LGBT people in Korea are not a monolith just like LGBT people aren't a monolith anywhere else in the world. 

Marginally related, but someone posted Mingyu's fanservice moments as proof that he's not straight. I am not gonna argue that because he's doing gay fanservice that means that he's actually straight - all idols do gay fanservice to at least some degree so that reasoning has always been nonsensical to me, but I wonder, if Mingyu was actually gay, how does doing fanservice prove that exactly? Like, if I think about it for a second, the logical conclusion here to me is that when Mingyu sees cameras pointed at him, he becomes fueled with overwhelming sexual desire for his members and starts grinding on them? This doesn't prove anything to me in regards to his sexuality; it just proves that he's always been committed to delivering fanservice of all kinds.

I think that sometimes something can be extrapolated from fanservice moments, in a sense that, for example, an idol may react weirdly/flustered to a member's joking advances and that can be noteworthy if we start breaking out our K-pop micro expression analysis PhDs, but the very act of doing fanservice (a lot even) seems to prove nothing to me. Anyway, this all is less about Mingyu specifically and more just in general about any random fanservice being posted as proof. 

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5 minutes ago, boredoutofmymind said:

it had me questioning for a minute whether or not the audience was meant to interpret that way

I think we should never underestimate how heteronormative the public is in many countries. Sorry for bringing up the dreaded Suga discourse, but it's a great example: a guy saying "not just when it comes to girls" in a heteronormative society has no other interpretation but "not just when it comes to dating" cause other options for relationships just simply do not exist in the public's mind, yet everyone else with a slight awareness of different sexualities thought it meant something else. So I think that the EXO members genuinely believe that they can make all the wink wink Sehun gay jokes they want and no one in Korea will know, and you know what, they aren't wrong cause Koreans can only really tell that Jo Kwon MIGHT be gay so we're operating on that level of awareness of homosexuality lol. 

14 minutes ago, boredoutofmymind said:

fanservice goes both ways, there are people who I firmly think are gay, who are very good at entertaining their gf fans during fansigns so playing the y/n game doesn't indicate someone is gay, same thing like you said with the shippy/gay fanservice

Yup, good point, totally in agreement. For example. Monsta X MInhyuk is good at doing fanservice for his female fans by Korean standards. One time he was flexing his knowledge of female perfumes to a fan who was wearing one and Koreans found that heart fluttering, I could honestly just laugh. 

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3 hours ago, .peach. said:

But anyways, this same story has been circling around for a year if not more. It sounds like those fake sasaeng posts

Really? It's my first time hearing about it. Just to check, this is a proper article, not some sasaeng rumor post, correct? It should have some validity in that case. 

People seem to be saying that this is about 2nd gen idols. Some are posting initials under QRTs, but it's meaningless to me. 

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Harry Styles strikes me as aspirationally bisexual. I think it was James Franco who said that he's artistically gay, but he's otherwise only attracted to woman lmao. Has that kind of energy to me, may have kissed a man once and didn't hate it, but that's about it. Willing to eat my words if we ever see him openly date a man, but I wouldn't bet on it. 

2 hours ago, cold soba said:

yall what do you think about btob minhyuk? he seems gay to me

Didn't he slide into his ex girlfriend's DMs a while ago and then her new boyfriend exposed him lol?

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1 hour ago, AstroBaby said:

It was similar but not quite the same. It was a different source saying two popular members of different bgs were dating and they had a fight while filming variety content together with their groups.

Wasn't it just the fact that someone here wrongly interpreted the article as being about 2 different bgs since it was fully in Korean? When I plugged the original source through Google Translate, I understood it as them being from the same group just like in this translation.

It's still not clear to me if this supposedly happened last summer or a couple of years ago though, I've seen both points in time referenced.

Anyway, knowing how journalists write these blind items, my guess is that it's probably some total nugus. I imagine that if we found out the name of the group, we'd be surprised how pretty much none of us know them. But honestly, the way it was written was like a total fanfic (tagged hurt&comfort), if the source was some rando online, I'd never believe it, so it's just all a bit bizarre to me. 

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Stop making the specter that haunts this thread grow stronger by acknowledging its presence and discussing the ethics of rape depiction in Berserk! Literally anything is better than this lol, proven by the fact that everyone is liking a 9 word post about there being just so many in-group relationships. 

1 hour ago, OptimusPremier said:

Not very classy... (reminds me of Chen with Sehun)

Honestly don't think it was that deep. EXO members would literally go like well you know how Sehun and GIRLS just aren't the right fit  teehee no one knows what we mean~. Here Wonwoo is just saying that Seungkwan is a decent guy when it comes to girls, and it may not mean anything beyond that. If it was meant to be a wink wink joke, at least it was subtle enough and no one would find anything odd there had Seungkwan himself not commented on it. 

[Tixy]

OOOOH LOOK EVERYONE AT THE SHINY OBJECT THAT I'M DANGLING INSTEAD - IT'S WONHO'S NEW MV!

Wonho said that Hoshi helped him with the choreography, it turned out great. 

New page, new us...hopefully... 

[Tixy]

4 hours ago, unbothered said:

all these ships in the thread probably aren’t even close friends. of course they have to get along because they train and perform together and have to sell the illusion of closeness to their fans. 

Barring the cursed Behind The Scenes discord (must not be named so as to avoid summoning it) and an occasional shipper of something else here and there, I don't think ships get mentioned here that much both in general and especially in a way that produces any larger discussion or agreement surrounding them. I only remember 2 in-group ships that got mentioned semi recently that resulted in many users agreeing that there may be something there and they were TBZ Younghoon/Chanhee and ATEEZ San/Wooyoung, and I am quite sure that both are genuinely close either way. I do agree that in-group dating is likely to be super rare and probably indistinguishable from any other pair of idols just being good friends doing fanservice occasionally. 

Anyway, I'm manifesting NOT seeing 5 pages of nonsense after I wake up, I believe in you guys.