honeymaple 300 Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 Not even western media out gay celebrities tbh, i doubt Dispatch will do it. It isn't just about their career, it could affect their lives. Would they really out someone when there's risk that person could kill themselves? Everyone would hate them, and i doubt they would wanna carry that burden anyway. Yes, I think someday they will out somebody. It's the unwritten rule, don't out people. But, everybody knows it that Dispatch very badly wanting to out somebody. It's only how long it will be until such a thing become possible. And, western tabloids talk about gay couple's rumors and dates! It's the same thing Dispatch wanting to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honeymaple 300 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Listen I love that everyone is speculating BUT does that dispatch story have a caption or something. Cause all I see is 2 guys from THE SAME GROUP using the same bag. Like it could be anything tbh. Sent from my LG-SP320 using OneHallyu mobile app It's not the same bag, top one is old camera bag and bottom one it's Jimin's birthday present to Jungkook. Nothing suspicious originally, except for it's the 4 month old story suddenly with no explanations... About the Jungkook and Jimin + Dispatch thing: I'm not anymore in touch with my shipper friends (especially jikook), but I can totally picture everybody going crazy, losing their minds over this picture. Screaming "OMG! I told that was them tha gay couple." and stuff. Falling in the trap that dispatch is creating with this teasing. Actually jikooker's more interested about Jungkook recently using the informal speech to Jimin on broadcast, which is very strange and can be like couple. Also jikook SNS behaviors which I will post tonight. The Dispatch insta is barely attention. We are not so easily trap. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honeymaple 300 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Not really most idols use informal speech with each other cause they know each for so long. It's just you see it publicly so now you know. Using that logic there is a "couple" in every group. 2019 real receipts [emoji19] Sent from my LG-SP320 using OneHallyu mobile app Very strange for them on the public broadcast, because of they are different age. Usually they only have the informal speech when they think camera is off. I think if you don't speak Korean you won't understand about this situation. Korean ARMY going crazy. But, it's not proof about dating, it can only be suspicious, so I didn't mention before about it. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honeymaple 300 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 I will post those evidences I said before. If you don't like it, please ignore. Many lesser evidences about others get posted recently, so if you will say "it's nothing", go to hate them first and then come. Or don't hate anything, I think it's best. ARMY's noticed this behavior from Jimin and Jungkook on twitter, at least four times since end of 2017. Some say it's the coincidence, some say 4 times is too many to be the coincidence. I think maybe you know my opinion lol 1 ARMY: If you are dating Jungkook please wear glasses for next selca. JIMIN: *Wear jikook couple shirt and glasses filter for next selca* Normally the couple clothing isn't an evidence in my opinion, but for this situation it's relevant. This is that matching shirt from Jungkook's wearing in GCF in Tokyo (you can see in the mirror). 2 ARMY: If kiss sound is correct please do V sign for selca. JIMIN: *Do V sign for selca in same day* This tweet: https://twitter.com/BTS_twt/status/1035560346814111746 3 ARMY: Please wear sunglasses if you are like married couple. JUNGKOOK: *Wear sunglasses for next selca* 4 ARMY: Please use injeolmi filter for selca if jikook really dating. JIMIN: *Use injeolmi filter for selca* This reply came 2 months later, but it can be that he couldn't find the filter for that time. Injeolmi filter is very rare, it seems almost nobody knows about it. Even searching the internet, it does not come out. And most of Korean's asked don't know it. Plus Jimin usually doesn't use some filters often, so, for him knowing such the rare filter is very strange. 3 32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honeymaple 300 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 My post: Honest opinion with some evidences. -27 voting and tell to me go away, call me a child. Since my post: Several of shippy posts. All positive voting except one has -2. No telling to go away or insulting. I'm not surprised, but I can't say that I didn't hope for a better. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honeymaple 300 Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 I just want to ask, why can it be that Eunhyuk and Donghae post is some evidence? (Sorry to Heechuls Tamagotchi, it's not criticism of you) Eunhae went to Hawaii, jikook went to Tokyo. Eunhae called the jagiya, jikook called the jagiya. Eunhae spend New Year's together, jikook spend Chuseok together and see first snow together. Why it's okay to say one is suspicious, but other one it's not okay? This is the double standard I am talking about before. It's never the same. I just want to know why. 7 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honeymaple 300 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 (edited) First, you need to get rid of the word: evidence. None of this is evidence. They're just suspicious things. Secondly, the trips of Donghae and Eunhae were not just a few times thing. It's something they've been doing for years. This increases people's suspicions. Eunhae called the jagiya, jungkook called the aegiya gaja is totally different things. Jungkook said " Aegiya gaja " this line blongs to very very famous movie called " Love in Paris " When the movie is released “Aegiya Gaja!†(“Let’s go, baby!â€) is spreading like wildfire on the Korea. This line is what the main character in “Lovers in Paris†said to protect and rescue the Cinderella character played by Kim Jeong-eun. Jungkook made a joke at that time just referring to this film. You write as if they watch first snow especially together. But we all know that when it first snowed, they were in the in the shooting area. But on the first day of the new year Donghae and Eunhae are going to watch the sun rise, especially together. This is not the double standard. Just to give more importance to things that are more logical. Oh! For some reason my head said dangshin but my hand said jagiya! How embarrassing. You are right about that Jungkook said once aegiya which is the movie quote, but my intention was about he said dangshin. It's like the same meaning to jagiya for couples. (But Jungkook said other romance movie quotes to Jimin in different times, so maybe I think that can be suspicious too) In the vacations, the reason for suspicion is not the vacation but so much time spending together, right? Work, and hang out, and even going to vacation on top of. I think it's comparable from that viewpoint. Super Junior are veterans of entertainment, so they have money and the freedom for to taking vacations for some years. BTS are not veterans, 2017 was the first international free time vacations for several of members. But, before that (and still now) Jimin and Jungkook sleep the same bedroom often and visit to each other hotel room, backstage buddies, airport buddies, van buddies, and often spotted eating or shopping or other activities in the free time those two only together. Even in GCF videos screen time is 20% solo Jimin (not to count GCF in Tokyo, or it will be 30%) it's 2x any of other members solo. And on twitter in one year until now, any Jungkook's couple tweets are approximately 75% with Jimin (only count once per tweet even with multiple pictures). Jimin and Jungkook can be said that they are glued at the hip. Jimin and Taehyung are the best friends, so what is that relationship if somebody is spending more time even than your best friend? Maybe some different word that starting with "b" and ending with "friend"? Regarding first snow, alone it has some other meanings, but with somebody it's having the special implication. Especially he emphasize it's not the real first snow but only his first snow, it's important to him to see the first snow that he will bend the rules. In Korean culture, if you see the first snow together as a couple, your love will last a long time (or, if you are just the crush stage, your love will bloom). Even if you disagree, I think you will see it's same amount of logic. Not less. If you wanting really less logic I can talk about jikook matching ring they wore from their rumored 800th day aniversary and several other times: Or this: Or this: Click here to view the Tweet "No double standard" they say, but look at this post's score and direct below post's score. The words and the evidence don't match. Edited February 5, 2019 by honeymaple 5 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honeymaple 300 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 As much as I, as a casual Jikook (and vhope and taejin and vmin and jihope iol) shipper, like this, they all have same/similar jewelry, Tae wore that same ring, they probably share a bunch of stuff they wear if it's for the shows and not their personal styling. Also, you don't know if Vmin are best friends, or if any of them are friends at all, they can tell us whatever they want, we don't know them. And the part with percentages... Sorry, but, maybe you should take it less serious. What do we care who they're dating? It's all fun and cute, but when people start convincing someone the ship is real, it kinda creeps me out. I can gather you "evidence" of all the members combinations from the group, to look like all of them are dating each other, all of them have moments that people can use to convince someone they're dating. But it shouldn't matter that much, it's just people you don't know, why is it important? And you'll never know the truth anyway. I think you misunderstood my intention about those rings, they're one example of less logic, which I do not usually make a post. But I get accused the less logic, so I wanted to show the difference. I had a little fun, it's not serious. Anyway Click here to view the Tweet Jimin said Taehyung is his best friend. I don't know why he will lie about that, but I guess you can think whatever you are want. The percentage's not so serious too, but example of always together and thinking about. But your assumption is wrong. I never shipped jikook, I thought originally "are they dating?" and look closer and I think that answer is yes. Of course you can disagree, but please don't to look down on my opinion. If I want to really make you creep out, I will post sasaeng contents. But that's no good. I only post some public things. You're right this kind of stuff's not so important, but it's not not so important too. If it's totally not important, this thread will not exist. We live in the oppressive society, I think it's so normal to seek of some representation in any way. I think too it's my turn, to say "you don't know" about we will never know. We might know never, or we might know tomorrow. We don't know if we will know. And well that's okay. 2 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honeymaple 300 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 *sigh* Once again, Jungkook's saying " dangshin " means nothing. Dangshin means " you " in an formal way. Members used this sentence before each other (like RM > Jimin). So they're in relationship too? So you're saying they've never seen together before because they didn't have any money? LMAO You completely ignore the trips that Jungkook and Jimin make with other members and friends. Members always go to each other's hotel rooms. Just walking together at the airport makes them couple? You've never paid any attention, but the managers around them decide which member will get on which car. If you pay attention, you will see them point them with their hands. Jungkook goes to dinner with the other members too. Why are you totally ignoring that? Do you really believe that Jungkook's members used it in his G.C.F videos pointed to the person with whom he was involved? LMAO How do you know Jimin and Taehyung don't spend time together? We're not part of their lives. We only know as much as they share with us. Members share their jewelry with each other. There's nothing weird or suspicious about. Lip reading? Seriously? It's a reaaallly creepy behavor. And nobody knows for sure what they said. Jimin's face doesn't even look in the video, how did they read his lips? lol You clearly ship Jikook. Don't try to make any excuses. That's why I don't like shipers. They are always, I will reply you because you are lying, amd then I will block you because you are lying to make fighting. Many Koreans, including the non-ARMY, thinks Jungkook's "dangshin" and other manner of speech to Jimin is suspicious. If you disagree them, go fight with them. I don't care. Jimin and Jungkook are not NEVER seen together, but ALWAYS seen together. Sometimes dinner or playing with other people, but usually just together. Many many the pictures and videos, many many fan and sasaeng saying so. Korean, Japanese, Chinese sasaeng, normal fan, fansites all saying jikook always together. Even the rumor Jimin is living at Jungkook's apartment, but I did not see any clear proof, only some pictures nearby which can be normal playing (BTS dorm and Jungkook apartment is only 30 minutes, it's easy go between). Always together airport, car, backstage, dorm, apartment, playing, hotel room... You've never paid any attention, but Jungkook often telling to managers about he want to ride with Jimin. But I guess it's fanservice because of fans can hear it? but you still didn't pay attention, because I said about jewelry IS NOT some good evidence. And the lip reading, too. And you really didn't pay attention, because that video said "we can't see what Jimin saying". Fuck, you're amazing, how can you write with your eyes closed? About hotel, members go to play, but Jimin and Jungkook stay each other hotel rooms. I will post later some evidences of it, but it's not for you. I don't care what you think about anything because you are a liar. 2 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honeymaple 300 Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Age of consent for Korea is 13 years old... He can have sex, but he can't be talked about crush? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honeymaple 300 Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 I think their point is society accepts that teenagers have sex but only in a heterosexual capacity. It's generally accepted by a lot of societies that teenagers have sex (it's commonly depicted on television shows aimed at the teen and 20s demographic). However, that same culture freaks out if you suggest a teenager has a *crush* on someone of the same sex. A teens sexuality is not their sex life and vice versa, a teen's sex life is not their sexuality. Yes! I don't want to talk about teenager having any sex, just I think it's some weird standard. Body action is okay, but heart action is too adult? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honeymaple 300 Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 Based on my own experiences I think 40-60% gay, rest is bi mixed with straight. But, most of bi will marry to opposite sex, and some of gay will do too, if society doesn't change much fast. Actors maybe 20-30% gay, same situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honeymaple 300 Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 Japan is 7% as far as I know Currently the popular number is 1 in 13 for all of LGBT, but some survey come out up to 1 in 11. It varies too much because of the flawed method. But, I think most Japanese still thinking it's 1 in 20~30, because nobody talks about that stuff often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honeymaple 300 Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 Personally, I don't think we're going to have any clear percentages until non-heterosexual identities are more widely understood, accepted, and normalized. It's not just that a lot of gay/bi people don't want to officially identify that way in a survey. I think there are a ton of people who would be gay or bi but have just never considered their options beyond heterosexuality. Or have never allowed themselves to consider it. I think so. In Japan, 90% of "straight" say in survey "I don't really understand about LGBT". Even in 30% of LGBT don't know such a word like "LGBT". Education is sooo low. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honeymaple 300 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Last OT post: How many times have you heard someone on the internet, even on this thread, jokingly say, "__ said fuck het lives"? Now, let's flip it to, "__ said fuck homo lives." Yeah, that sounds much worse, right? It's because gay people have been violently oppressed for centuries, while straight people have been violently oppressing us for centuries. The two sentences are not the same. They are not equally threatening. One is a reinforcement of real systematic bigotry and violence, and the other is understandable resentment about how we've been treated (which does not actually harm straight people at all). I've never seen you or anyone else object to the way straight people are talked about here, so why is it so hard to apply the same idea to white people? Anyway, I'm sorry for getting off topic, so I'll leave it there. It's fine if we just have a difference of opinion. I'm not from your culture but, I think what you say is so bad. I could never imagine to say such like "fuck het lives", even it's gay marriage and protection aren't in my country yet. It's so vile. This violent speech of westerners is scary... I don't think hatred is okay to have a "difference of opinion". You think hate doesn't harm, but hate always harm. Always. Sorry to be OT. 13 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honeymaple 300 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 BTS Safety Pin spamfest pt 1. Now, I know this is a contentious issue for many who believe it has no relevance to anything and is just a trendy fashion statement. But it also seems to have some traction in South Korea as an anti-bullying, pro-minority symbol. Make your own minds up. Also, I could find no pictures of Jin or Namjoon wearing safety pins. Actually, there was one safety pin on a stage outfit cravat for Jin, but it seemed like part of an elaborate costume. Unlike Taehyung's earring (see below) which may have been something he chose. I've tried to find images where the safety pin is used in their free time/own clothing, or as near to that as I could get. Yoongi: Click here to view the Tweet Click here to view the Tweet Click here to view the Tweet Click here to view the Tweet You need to click on this to open it up fully for the pics: Click here to view the Tweet Jungkook: Click here to view the Tweet Sorry but, it's really just the popular fashion accessory. "I am safe" meaning came after some of those pictures, and, that meaning doesn't exist in Asia anyway. Seriously nobody knows it. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honeymaple 300 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Serious question: What will it take for you guys to be suspicious about Jimin and Jungkook's relationship, like Heechul and Gunhee, Tony and Jaeduck, Suho and Donghwan, Eunhyuk and Donghae? Is it just age? This is not about shipping, I really want to know because I think they are really dating relationship. 9 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honeymaple 300 Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 I see! You don't know in detail about it, so without thoughts you saying like "oh it's all the same" and dismiss easily. I will make the analysis post, like this ones. Please wait! https://onehallyu.com/topic/64-which-male-idols-do-you-think-are-gay/page-2979?do=findComment&comment=23310924+30 https://onehallyu.com/topic/64-which-male-idols-do-you-think-are-gay/page-3276?do=findComment&comment=25644112+38 https://onehallyu.com/topic/64-which-male-idols-do-you-think-are-gay/page-3422?do=findComment&comment=26532658+36 https://onehallyu.com/topic/64-which-male-idols-do-you-think-are-gay/page-3675?do=findComment&comment=28746887+18 https://onehallyu.com/topic/64-which-male-idols-do-you-think-are-gay/page-3907?do=findComment&comment=30243860+23 It's a lot of work, I hope you will not have a double standard to me 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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