Which male idols do you think are gay?

[Bushi]

6 hours ago, SingulariV said:

Well I can't change your belief that HYBE is hiding some iceberg of a relationship,

 

They are hiding something. But it's none of the trendy ships.

That's distraction fluff. 

Edited November 16, 2021 by Bushi

[Bushi]

14 hours ago, dumdidumdi said:

 

https://www.instagram.com/p/CWa0FbHPLaf/

 

They're so cute. Is that the boyfriend he broke up with or a new one? 

[Bushi]

16 hours ago, peach0827 said:

(lol why did someone skull us ) ahh i see, for some reason i thought it had something to do with cher lloyd. i can see why people think he's gay, he does a lot of mannerisms that would make you think he is, but i also don't really wanna stereotype guys like that too much, especially since he's come forward and asked people to stop calling him gay lol. i guess we can't know for sure (or maybe we will in the future who knows). thanks for explaining

Probably because it's nothing to do with Korea, K-pop or Asia. I doubt anyone minds a nod or brief ref to it but when it fills a page of convo.... 

I wasn't a skuller btw, just letting you know. 

[Bushi]

2 minutes ago, gam3 bo1 said:

always cute to be reminded of their support no matter how small (a few members went to a harry styles concert.. idk why people are coming out at the concert but that's fun.

Yeah, Hobi, Tae, Jimin and JK are there and look to be having a great time. Everyone loves it when BTS go to LA because they can just chillax and not seem so rigid with the filming and tasks. 

[Bushi]

5 hours ago, peach0827 said:

i didn't know it was that much of an issue tbh, on the plastic surgery thread people discuss western celebs every once in a while and no one loses their shit over it. but i'll refrain from doing so in the future ig

Well, you've gotta have a bit of divasass on a gay thread.  

[Bushi]

1 hour ago, MybDsTm said:

https://twitter.com/gcfsserendipity/status/1462108587983978500?s=19

Ok, don't get me wrong. TBH, this is by far my fave Taekook video. Can't count how many times I've watched. But while rewatching it again just now, I suddenly notice something that I didn't notice before. At about :01, right before Tae put his arm on JK shoulder, did I just see Tae tap on JK shoulder before he put his arm around and before JK held his hand? Did I see it right? Because if it was a tap, then was it some sort of signal to do fan service?? What do you guys think? It sort of remind me of that GDA 2020 moment, wherein you could see JK nudging Tae and signaling with a nod before Tae leaned on him.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wattpad.com/amp/825020034

 

They're obviously really good friends but a certain amount of all actions between any members of a group are subject to scriptedness, and knowing the cameras are on them.  

I'm not apt to read too much into a concert where it's noisy, distracting, and people are high as kites having fun. But Taehyung does initiate much of the upfront fanservice with JK. Or he's just tactile, which he is. 

There's a decent chance of 2 possible couples in BTS. Neither of them are this or the Jikook floorshow. But they're great fun to watch and all obviously like each other, share secrets and have interests in common. Just my opinion, fwiw. 

Edited November 21, 2021 by Bushi

[Bushi]

13 hours ago, temiiro said:

This is a stupid random thought but what do you think would happen if some idols did a "mass coming out"? I mean like, let's say 10-15 idols from different groups and agencies came out at the same time.

Would they be fired? How eould somethings like this be managed? This is a pretty impossible situation but I think it wouldn’t be that bad of an idea, to avoid backlash directed towards one person.

So yeah, pretty theoretical, but I wonder...

I've often wondered this. There's always strength in numbers. 

10-15 would actually be notable in music in South Korea but they'd have to be high level 'best boys' to make waves. 

And the higher they go the more internal demand upon them, and so less likely to break rules imposed. BTS for example are now pretty much signed up government shills, promoting Korean culture, food, language, style. Anywhere they go in the world they just head to the nearest Korean BBQ for a photo, lol. So no 'mass' rebellion from here I don't think. Even EXO's supposed primary gayer has backtracked sharply. 

The reality is that they potentially do have a lot to lose, individually and professionally. Esp. in a society that has little to no obvious interest in LGBT+ rights. If they want to continue living and working there. 

Any major idol rebellion is probably going to come from the 4th gen idols, if it comes at all. Or from those with dual nationality or are non-Koreans in the newer manufactured groups. Even so, I don't see the appetite for a mass, organised c/o atm. Individuals c/o yes, because someone will get the ball rolling at some point. 

Edited November 24, 2021 by Bushi

[Bushi]

4 hours ago, gam3 bo1 said:

i don't know man... something about blind items that, if true, out someone are so icky to me.

Cons:

1. It's a blind. And ooh, kinda personal. Spicy.

But you can at least take or leave. 

Pros: 

1. It's on topic. Yay! 

2. It's 2 consenting adult males in a bed, no minors or dodginess involved. Yay! 

3. It's not Taeyong. Yay! 

4. And for that alone we should be thankfull. Yay! Welcome back, BTS, I've missed ya. 

5. 

Spoiler

6. What if it's NOT the go-to gay, Jimin. Oooohhhh.....

 

Edited December 1, 2021 by Bushi

[Bushi]

On 12/2/2021 at 1:25 PM, succcjin said:

Hmm, kind of interesting that they are aware of the CDAN rumor   I mean it is a western site and involves another western person, so I dunno why anyone in Korea would care about this.

But this is exactly what I was saying yesterday that Jimin is extremely image conscious . tbh I dont mind them deleting them, dating or hooking up is not a crime anyways and its not our business anyways, whether or not the questionable articles/rumors are up or not.

Jimin ain't the be all and end all in this - there is another named public figure. His people are just as likely to have intervened imo. 

When Jimin goes home the young US player is left to face any potential fallout from this whether it's true or false. I wouldn't expect most Koreans to even read or know about CDAN or US blind items. But western people sure do. And sportsfans can make life hell for their rivals on the back of truths, falsehoods, rumours, and innocent situations taken out of context. 

Edited December 4, 2021 by Bushi

[Bushi]

He knows people know. 

[Bushi]

Namjoon's face is a dead giveaway any time shit's going down, followed by Jk who's also rubbish at playing it cool.

 

[Bushi]

Re: Stigma.

Does Taehyung, as the subject, need to even be at the heart of this song though? 

Quite often performers write or co-write songs from another person's perspective, or as a third party remote viewer. 

I'm not sure the answer to it can be easily found, as it might not be about 'him' at all, even if it's 'personal.' It may still be him telling a story through another's eyes.

[Bushi]

I agree it might be about himself and it might be LGBT related, but it might not, and there's really no way to verify it unless he decides to elaborate. 

It will still go down as one of those mysterious maybe gaybe Taybe's that makes him so interesting. 

Ricky Martin used to top charts once with odes to women and the female form (even where he only part contributed to the creative process). So you can never apply a definite to anything undefined as such. But it's fun to speculate. 

Edited December 17, 2021 by Bushi

[Bushi]

11 hours ago, LostChild said:

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Still Ricky Martin didn't write most of his songs and certainly not his big hits.

It's a bit unfair to idols who are really involved in their songwriting (and not just write two or three lines here and there) to dismiss their lyrics because it possibly wouldn't fit with the view we have of them. Ofc not all lyrics are related to their own experiences but most artists put pieces of themselves in their work, consciously or not. It's not about the recent discussion here btw, I'm saying this in general.

 

Which is why I mentioned that he was part of the creative process, not that he wrote all that material because he didn't. 

But he certainly opted to take part in it. There's nothing else I can add to the V debate except to reiterate that it may or may not be about him, or gay issues pertaining to him. We just don't have a first hand account. But I've enjoyed reading peoples views and different takes on it. 

Edited December 17, 2021 by Bushi

[Bushi]

Holy Jobus, Wang sounds like a bit of a lad. 

Disclaimer: the usual. 

 

Edited December 19, 2021 by Bushi

[Bushi]

No to Taekook, it's nonsense. But you've all suddenly forgotten that BTS are wordplay and innuendo heroes?

Having said that, he seems to love old-time western music, silver screen era. 

Another Taeybe. 

 

Edited December 20, 2021 by Bushi

[Bushi]

Jimin and Jungkook aren't a couple imo. At least not any sort of committed couple. Neither are Jk and Tae imo. All 3 might have messed about casually. But there are no dedicated romances in this threesome, and that includes the omnipresent Vmin. 

If they have something with a member of BTS it'll be with someone few people expect. Young male gheys generally like older gheys, some considerably so. The PTB get everyone hopping, fixating on the fairytale crowdpleasers who help shift product and keep fans on tenterhooks, whilst the legit couple/s or hookups poddle along unbothered. Or only noticed by a small section of fans.

It's formula. The top female groups do it too. And they used it in western pop groups, two 'special' friends, always holding hands or the long stares when a camera was around. Cheryl and Kimberley of Girls Aloud 'Chim,' Dougie Poynter and Harry Judd of McFly 'Pudd,' and the infamous Larry, which people still pin their hopes on. 

Edited December 22, 2021 by Bushi

[Bushi]

 

 

I mean, this is pretty pointed, gang. They're either really big on supporting pink, blue and violet people, or ya know... 

It's maybe as much as they can say without outright saying, ya know? You can't argue that Hobi still doesn't know what the hell the wall panel colour combo on his (also self-styled) Daydream MV means. 

Well, you can, but it'd be a pretty hollow argument by now. 

Edited December 24, 2021 by Bushi

[Bushi]

2 hours ago, raspberry84 said:

BTS Photoshoot:

Based on the photos, it's obvious the clothes came form 1 to 3 collections. Likely, BTS was presented with either all the pieces or pre-made combinations and picked from there.

I'm not going to read a ton into the rainbow / bi colors in those photos. Personally, I don't think it's anything definitive. Especially if that collection wasn't intentionally referencing queer flags (someone who knows more about fashion, please let me know if it was).

However, it's still extremely relevant that Yoongi picked a skirt to wear during this photoshoot. That really can't be explained away and was clearly his choice to wear.

So a skirt (which doesn't necessarily have western female connotations in SK) has enormous meaning but a clearly coloured hat for him and an obvious bag for J-Hope (both of which would need to be okayed with them) is just glossed over, as per usual on here. 

Sounds about right for OH. 

 

Edited December 25, 2021 by Bushi

[Bushi]

10 hours ago, dododododododo said:

For context: he posted a video of a scene where one of the characters performed “Dynamite”, which I guess ended with these two kissing. Had a very weird few minutes on Twitter before I figured that out lol

I can see Taehyung ending up living some place in Europe. Paris, or maybe somewhere like Cornwall, where it's dreamy, artistic and romantic. 

He's an old soul.

Edited December 29, 2021 by Bushi

[Bushi]

On 12/29/2021 at 7:18 PM, temiiro said:

offtopic but as a european it's funny how much people romanticize some places here when in reality it's mostly rude people, bad traffic and broke down streets lmao 

Spoiler

 

Of course. Parts of Paris smell of wee, and we call London 'Stabdon' in England . 

There's always crime, mess, litter and apathy among the beauty of most places, especially big cities. It doesn't mean they're not great places. It's how people care for them. I look back at late 1960s footage of London and nearly cry. It's so bright, clean, with about 3 people there, lol. You could see the architecture from the ground up, and buildings were immaculately maintained. Not so much now. 

I remember once turning a street corner off of beautiful, clean central Vancouver and was surprised to find myself ending up on their version of Skid Row. Of course, it was more polite, being Canada.

But the point is Taehyung obviously has some sort of affinity for Paris. And I think there's a pull towards London/Britain too. Maybe it's the fashions, or the art, or the 'high-end' cultural elements in Europe, idk. It still attracts lots of artists and free thinkers. There's the notion that you can be yourself without family or societal pressure in Europe. Though in practice this isn't true for everyone. On the whole though, the sense of freedom and classical Euro art history will appeal to many souls of a sensitive, romantic nature. 

 

 

Edited January 2, 2022 by Bushi

[Bushi]

6 hours ago, vafonso19971 said:

I don't know if you watched the video, I mean if Ren is gay:

Why when he said he liked corn dog

Aron smirked (because of the cylindrical shape)

Ren said "that was weird"

...So why would a gay man find it weird to like this kind of homo joke?

Wouldn't that be an indication that Ren is straight ?

Replace 'gay' with 'closeted' and you might be nearer the mark re: self mocking, demeaning or just amusing in-jokes between friends. 

Male humour isn't like female humour. They just don't get offended in the way girls do. Or even think that deeply about this stuff. 

Edited January 13, 2022 by Bushi

[Bushi]

20 hours ago, Your local dumbass said:

Putting in spoiler since it’s out the topic

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I don’t necessarily hate him but I hate how he gets praised for doing the bare minimum when it comes to breaking the gender roles. Like homeboy could wear a tanktop with a small pink bow on the edge and he’s deemed as feminist king in the media but kpop groups don’t get the same praise despite them doing the exact same thing sometimes even better that Harry. In fact they get called ”gay” (as an insult by the homophobes ) and ”Asian men are saurr feminine ” (not that a man being feminine is a bad thing obvi but we all know about the emasculation of Asian men by the west) 

 

Fair points but Asians both emasculate and revere certain qualities about themselves too. 

Everyone outside of K-pop finds most of these boybands not reflective of real life, of men in the street. South Koreans are always having microphones pushed under their noses and asked what they think of BTS and K-pop. Many of them literally don't care, it's a world they don't recognise, and this was before the big western push started around 2018. Even their own Korean shows are obsessed with stereotypical male profiles, muscles, strength, power. And poking fun at males who don't fit that profile. That part's not the west's doing. K-pop seems to be in a transition phase, wanting to import more gender fluidity (without rocking established boats). But it doesn't translate into what is still a very rigidly macho wider society. 

Edited January 19, 2022 by Bushi

[Bushi]

Haha, isn't this just so Taehyung to dump and run.

Thus keeping everyone guessing.

 

 

Edited January 21, 2022 by Bushi

[Bushi]

19 hours ago, miwa201 said:

I get what you mean, I just felt that ever since BTS got individual instagrams they've gotten worse. 

I think the Instagram accounts were kind of on the backburner anyway, but were fired up to really coincide with this Chako 7 Fates thing. This is moving into the era of the 'individual' within BTS. Rather than continuing the 'Seven Guys Sleep In A Giant Bed And Tickle Each Others Feet' eras. I know they were never quite as intense as that, but they have certainly been promoted in a more 'group dependency' way, shall we say.

I expect there'll be more upcoming BTS personal freedoms - within acceptable K-pop limits (suspect HYBE will want to avoid deliberately encouraged, product unfriendly, mass meltdowns. Unless Jk says fuck it, and goes out on the town again ). 

A bit of possible gay innuendo or nudge, wink on Instagram is far likelier to be forgotten by the ARMY masses than one of them being seen 'out with a girl.' 

Edited January 23, 2022 by Bushi