Which male idols do you think are gay?

[Melany]

i don't have  thought about jaemin/jeno but weren't kfans sure that jaemin is dating some actress? 

maybe they ship nomin just for fun, or it's the young fans specifically

[Melany]

 

Jeno and looks like it's his ex boyfriend.

[Melany]

3 hours ago, Bushi said:

 

A few people spotted that the Dynamite MV explosion colours were very similar to the pan flag colours, just in a different order.

Maybe it's just coincidence (number #324,657) and the graphics team no doubt have their own brief, but it's still super cute. 

 

 

that a bit too far fatched, i mean it's good to be woke but that literally just  basic colours: pink, blue, yellow + not even in the same order as in the flag

[Melany]

2 hours ago, liberalitea said:

Does anyone else feel like YG groups in general tend to have less LGBTQ+ members? For iKon I'd say maybe 2 ping, for Big Bang 1 and for Winner, no one's really on my radar but I didn't really follow them as closely.

SM groups on the other hand, I feel have a greater percentage? Like I have genuinely seen arguments that 2/3 of OT9 EXO could be LGBT+ (with Chen, Xiumin and Lay overall being agreed upon as straight). 

Idk maybe I'm reading into it, but I've never really seen anyone make that many arguments for lgbt members in YG groups (this goes for GG's too)

yes because lgbt people go training to the agency where there is already queer idols. 

I think yg discriminate gay people a lot, wasn't taehyun (ex member of winner) bullied by other trainee because they thoughts he was gay?

 

[Melany]

8 hours ago, Blipblop said:

I’m almost positive their was a male idol that pretty much straight up said he liked other boys but I can’t for the life of me remember who it was.

Also I’m surprised no one here talks about Imfact (it might have been one of them actually who did the above) one of the members straight up said to another “You’re into boys,” lmao

because they are nugu, people prefers discuss here which bts or nct ships is real.

 

Also what do you guys think of park jihoon?

He checked out kang daniel once also when he was super shy with a fanboy

 

 

 

[Melany]

52 minutes ago, Ssalsa said:

Why are you being so shady for? The talk on NCT members are always difficult to search about until recently without any cut-offs. Furthermore, when there are more contents to put up, it is bound for the topic to be brought up again.

because i watched most of the "nomin" or whatever nct dream ships without shipping goggles and to me it looks like average fanservice.

trust me it's only suspicious when you ship, i used to be a shipper of chanbaek, some moments that looked "sus" or "weird" looks completly normal to me now.

 

[Melany]

On 9/14/2020 at 2:29 AM, chargerdine said:

Taehyung mentioned the idea of him having a kid for the first time in five years a few months ago and he said “if I have a kid...” so 1. He’s not certain anymore and 2. Singular, back then he said he wanted FIVE lmao. He is clearly not the same person he was when he was a teenager; gay, bi or straight. People really get caught up on things he said years ago when I’m sure most of these same people are not the same person they were five years ago, even more so for someone in Taehyungs position. If there’s any idol that would not pin themselves down to other people’s expectations on his life it’d be Tae lmao 

"The man who rejects all things ordinary, Kim Taehyung." - NJ 

Taehyung in two picture:

[Melany]

 

4 hours ago, chargerdine said:

He said he wants to paint his nails black, he’s giving me e-boy vibes, which is inspired by Japanese and korean street fashion anyway. A lot of what he says lines up with the e-boy attitude and style, especially with the gender aspect. You can tell he’s really inspired by that ~movement and has wanted to fully go for it since last year. He attempted to with the long hair. I think Noen Uebanks is the most famous e-boy I’ve heard of. I wonder if JK would ever go this far. 
 

Hanse from VICTON is the only kpop idol I know who fully went for it with the eboy thing 

most of those eboys on tiktok are edgy teenagers and most likely straight, at least those who i came through.

So there is nothing gay in it, it's just wanting to be "cool, rebel, different". 

I wonder if jungkook is aware he is 23 and not 15 yo anymore. 

Ofc nothing bad in it, but i feel bad for him, he debuted so young so he didn't have the chance to live the teenager edgy phase so he is kinda still stuck in it. 

 

[Melany]

8 hours ago, Sugasweet said:

Not at you deeming an entire alt sub-culture "straight" lol 

Anyways eboys are just the gen z descendants of the emo era, and emo is very gay, thank you very much. And there is no shame in embracing any fashion style, be it at 23 or 50 years old. Alt fashion and genderless clothing isn't just for teens... Being LGBT+ is also about gender identity, not just sexual orientation.

But if  everything on this thread has to be about gay culture and stereotyping, here's Jungkook's running around with a limp wrist and a gay bag.

 

 

but this is just literally a guy walking, he doesn't even have a "gay walk" that not a proof of anything. i see fan overacting for nothing. 

And yeah some eboys can be gays. But jungkook does it in a " i want to be cool" way. Like he said he want to be like a rockstar. Many rockstar have long hair, painted nails but are usually straight. It's good for him but i don't understand why it's posted here as proof  of anything while it's not, really.

Edited September 20, 2020 by Melany

[Melany]

17 minutes ago, Sugasweet said:

 The mental gymnastics with this one...  Yeah Jungkook likes doing his own makeup, putting on female products, tying his long hair, painting his nails and he doesn't believe in gendered clothes, but that's fine because he's probably doing this "to be cool" and it's just a phase... He's 23. You seem to believe that being an idol have stunted his growth or something, but I'm pretty sure that he's a grown ass man and he knows what he's doing.

And as I said in my original post (=>"Not necessarily gay but definitely LGBT+ related"), this isn't about Jungkook being gay, it's about him believing that clothes shouldn't be gendered, which in itself is about gender identity/LGBT+. What came afterward was just me being a sarcastic lil shit about the kind of "receipts" usually posted on this thread, sorry. But just so you know I don't really believe in the "gay walk" and him being effeminate isn't necssarily proof of his sexuality for me anyways. 

Oh and I don't remember Jungkook ever saying he wanted to be a rockstar, but his music preferences range from Ariana Grande/Troye Sivan to Nirvana and if you've listened to his playlist before,  it's filled with LGBT+ artists. Hell he even tattooed on his arms lyrics from a Nirvana song that ends with "God is gay" so I don't think liking bands like Linkin Park or Nirvana is the straightest thing he's ever done (saying that rockstar are "usually straight" isn't really an argument imo)

"likes doing his own makeup" most of korean men do it, they use a lot of skin product. 

"tying his long hair" again nothing lgbt in it, many straight guys have long hair that have nothing to do with gender identity.

He also wear those big travel packbacks

Also i never said liking rock is straight, i just said most rock artists have  a emo looks but are straights.

In Taehyung  i see it, him being feminine and those arsty vibes but in jungkook i see it as wanting to be edgy and cool. Maybe because i have already firm opinions on them. Members choosed Jungkook as being the guy who is the best with women in some american interview in 2017, i don't think it was fanservice because it was some small irelevant interview. Also they choose him as the one who will get married the first. But of course Jungkook is very open minded and more likely the least homophobic one, i just don't think he is gay or bi. At least those are not proof of him being not straight.

 

 

 

[Melany]

16 minutes ago, Sugasweet said:

Having a skincare routine =/= doing your own makeup. Most korean men don't do that. Jungkook actually wears eye makeup outside of his schedule, and even Taehyung was pretty surprised here

And it makes no sense to me that you see it at him "wanting to be edgy and cool" but for Taehyung you see him as being "artsy and feminine"? From what I see, Jungkook has way more interest in stereotypically more"feminine" products and he's also way more into art than Taehyung  ever was (he has shown interest in painting, filming, video editing, fashion designing, drawing, crafting etc and he's pretty good at it). Also we just discussed the fact that Taehyung wanting to marry and having kids isn't an indicator of him being straight, but you bring up a random interview where the members were teasing him about marrying first as proof that he is het? Jungkook himself said that he doesn't see himself getting married at all (probably the reason why they were teasing him in the first place), but even if he was it isn't an indicator of his sexuality at all. 

i knew you were gonna bring up the taehyung family thing, there is gay who doesn't want to follow the gay lifestyle you know? but i think he could be bi. Since i think jungkook is straight, choosing him as the one who would get married the first could mean he have a gf. 

Taehyung expressed interest in art (also he said gay artists and photographer were his role models did jungkook ever said smth like that? he just liked vaguely some lgbt songs )while jungkook is  into everything (from art to rock) he just like anything, any kind of music, he can use "feminine" products but also wear loose clothes and packbag with those big sneakers. He doesn't think to care about his looks but at the same time he does make up. That just mean he is a very versatile person

I just think he is up to everything. 

Also gay korean tend to think Taehyung is the only one who could be potentially gay or bi. They doesn't even consider jungkook as a candidate since the " feminine " things you pointed out seems to be normal in korean culture

Note: i don't want to expose or anything but there is a lot of korean and taiwanese fans who think jungkook is dating rosé. 

Edited September 20, 2020 by Melany

[Melany]

1 hour ago, Sugasweet said:

I brought up the "family thing" to show you that it was weird to claim JK is straight because his members implied that he might marry one day while saying Taehyung isn't, even though he has repeatedly talked about wanting to marry and have lots of kids. That's a weird double standard imo. Jungkook has mentioned and recommended loads of LGBT+ artists. I mean he doesn't like "any kind of music", his last playlist was very clearly LGBT themed: he had songs like Kim Petras (Do me), Carly Hanson (Back in my arms), Kacey Musgraves (Rainbow), Great good fine ok (Find yourself), which are all famous among the community for being LGBT+ songs, and the rest was either other LGBT artists like Tatiana Maneois or Bea Miller, or stereotypical "twitter gay music" like Beach Boys or Billie Eilish. I'm not even talking about the fiflty times he mentioned wanting to collab with Troye Sivan and covered his songs (back when he wasn't even that famous too), when he recommended Years and Years or when he sung Kehlani's gayest song on vlive. I don't see how wearing oversized clothes and having packbags and stomper lesbian boots  nullify all that, it's just part of his alt fashion sense which, we've discussed, isn't an indicator of his sexuality at all. Anyways, my point in the first place wasn't his sexuality, it was gender identity, and I keep straying from that so imma stop here....

Edit: and about the Rosé rumor, lol if we had to believe every rumor, Jungkook would have a harem by now. Taehyung too btw.

looks like you ignored my message, it was what i said, jungkook likes just all kind of music, you literally call every very popular artist gay, liking billie eilish is gay, but also liking ariana music is gay, beach boys is also gay.   Do you know he is not your typical western gay from twitter? He is a artist who just like all kind of music, he is not the yaas queen or whatever you imagine him to be.  He also like and wanted to collaborate with Charlie Puth and Justin Bieber also known as fuckboys. Also Jimin said he wanted to collaborate with troye (twice). Make me think that troye have a kind of agreement with bighit.

Like i said he will not be on Taehyung level if he doesn't straight up say he admire a gay artist and want to be like him. Jungkook never  showed interested in men like Tae (watched gay movies, flirted with a male photographer then yoongi exposed him), only the "namjoon" crush. Don't really believe it lol. Seems more like he just admire him a lot.

It's different about rosé, her family members liked shippy content and followed some ship account. That what make me raise an eyebrown, not the typical "they looked at each other on a awards show or same clothes" 

-->stomper lesbian boots: what??? since when stomper boots are a lesbian thing? some of you like to make everything gay then complain about stereotypes.

Don't be surprised when he come out with a gf now that dispatch deal with bighit is over. 

Edited September 20, 2020 by Melany

[Melany]

8 minutes ago, plutto said:

You know bisexuality is a thing right?

I do, people even got mad here when i showed jimin and yoongi bi receipts since a lot of people seems to believe both are gay. I actually think Jimin (attraction to the male interviewer then ofc his reaction to hwasa), Yoongi (i think he is bi, like he made a gay fanfic and talked about his ideal type of men, also talked about his male"friend " in his spring day verse) and Tae are all bi. With Tae being possibly gay. 

I just don't think jungkook is gay or bi, he never showed any real attraction to men, all of his receipts are being an ally (same with namjoon )or maybe im missing smth. 

 

[Melany]

33 minutes ago, Sugasweet said:

 

 

I don't call every popular artist gay?  Kim Petras is openly trans, Carly Hanson is bi ( the song I quoted start with "it's the kind of love they say is wrong" and is about her relationship with a girl), Kacey Musgraves's Rainbow was released especially to support LGBTI youth during pride month, the rest of the artist I quoted are notoriously gay/bi . And yes, Ariana Grande, Billie Eilish or The Beach boys are widely popular among LGBT communities,  even though I don't particularly like them, it would be delusional to think the contrary. 

If you consider Jungkook being a Justin Bieber/Charlie Puth fanboy as proof that he's straight, how should I say it, Justin Bieber never had many straight fanboys lol. I know he's pretty popular in Korea among the gp for some reasons, but again, teenager JK fanboying over him wasn't his straightest moment. And JK straight up admires Troye Sivan, there are entire compilation on youtube of him mentioning his name on interviews, he started covering his songs back in 2015 way before Troye was really famous (and way before Jimin), said it would be an honor to collab with him, an even used his songs as bgm for his gay lil video montage in Tokyo.

Idk why you brought up his infatuation with Namjoon, but I don't see that as just admiration, at least not at first. He called him his "boycrush" and he's constantly rambling about how sexy he was when he first met him, how that's what made him choose Big Hit over all the other agencies and how he was impressed by his "honey thighs" lol he's not even being subtle about it... He's shown plenty interest in males over the years but I've yet to see him show open interest in any girl.

That's.... I'm not even going to comment on that. 

If you consider Jungkook being a Justin Bieber/Charlie Puth fanboy as proof that he's straight

don't consider it as straight, i just say music taste doesn't exactly determine your sexuality. if you say listening ariana/billie make him gay then it mean listening to justin bieber, charlie puth mean he is straight.

Ariana Grande, Billie Eilish or The Beach boys are widely popular among LGBT communities

There are popular in korea in general, maybe on stan twitter they are popular with gay as i said korea is not western stan twitter

teenager JK fanboying over him wasn't his straightest moment.

okay so fanboying over Justin bieber (though he literally just liked some of his songs) mean he is gay then him stanning and blushing when he see IU mean he is straight.

And JK straight up admires Troye Sivan, there are entire compilation on youtube of him mentioning his name on interviews, he started covering his songs back in 2015

Troye sivan, you mean the guy that all of bighit artists recommend? even bang pd, he probably have some kind of agreement with them

He called him his "boycrush" and he's constantly rambling about how sexy he was when he first met him, how that's what made him choose Big Hit over all the other agencies and how he was impressed by his "honey thighs" lol he's not even being subtle about it..

"boycrush" if he would really would have a crush on him he would never mention it. 

that's what made him choose Big Hit over all the other agencies and how he was impressed by his "honey thighs" lol he's not even being subtle about it..

and you believe it? he would choose a no name agency over JYP or Woolim just for some a guy? He probably got some benefit from it

He's shown plenty interest in males over the years but I've yet to see him show open interest in any girl.

what interest? or is this just your wishful thinking. He showed interest in women, 1. when he tried to flirt with that female interviewer and got a small upset when she flirted with jimin. 2. another interviewer in some american interview, he and yoongi kept checking her out.

3. Him checking out mamamoo in 2016/2017 while they were walking. 4. when he and jimin got exited after the normani performance, you could see jimin couldn't stand up. 

 

Edited September 20, 2020 by Melany

[Melany]

21 minutes ago, plutto said:

So? He also has barely shown any attraction to women.

Straight isn't a "default sexuality".

Also Jungkook is introverted meawhile Tae and Jimin are extroverted. He hardly would go and do the same things Jimin and sometimes Tae does when showing attraction (like checking out guys on the street or something)

well he still showed more interest towards women than to men (meaning 0) also introvert doesn't mean asexual, he could still check out a guy

Edited September 20, 2020 by Melany

[Melany]

Just now, plutto said:

Proof? And I hope none of them are AHL or him liking IU or some shit like that.

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Also, not entirely related but ironic how we are allowed to say that an idol is "straight"/is doing "straight" things when they are/were still a minor in the receipts but when we do the same with gay receipts it suddenly becomes "it's forbidden to discuss a minor's sexuality". This forum is lovely, isn't it?

 

i replied to the person above you can read 

[Melany]

2 minutes ago, plutto said:

Oh yeah, watching female singers perform (and being impressed by their performance, in Normani's case) = attraction

In that case he has shown attraction to men many times too.

Post the interviews you're talking about, how am I supposed to believe you without any substantial proof?

but i didn't say it for everytime he react to a woman?? i said specifically normani performance. For example, he reacted to ariana, taylor swift, twice, red velvet performance, but just appreciated it.

 

can't find the other one, it was red dressed girl and they were all standing

 

mamamoo

[Melany]

1 minute ago, plutto said:

And the difference between them are...?

I'm not sure what is the big deal in both videos? In the interview he was just looking at whoever was talking at the moment. Unless you are assuming that him not standing still is a proof of him showing attraction to the interviewer, which I don't agree.

There's nothing out of the ordinary in the Mamamoo video.

differences are that the normani video is sexy and jungkook put his hands in the pocket in the hand and jimin didn't stand up.

->nothing out of ordinary

do you exept him to jump on her and start making love? 

He obviously tried to be close and put his hand next to the wall next to her and became upset when she flirted with jimin.

For the mamamoo video, there is a moment when they walk by he check them out

But obviously you want him to be gay or bi so your brain will automatically tell that those are nothing but him listening to ariana is gay. Just like shippers do

[Melany]

1 minute ago, Sugasweet said:

I'm sorry but I think you're being a bit hypocritical? You told me Taehyung had shown explicit interest in LGBT+ artists/figures and Jungkook hasn't, that's the only reason why I mentioned the fact that he admires Troye Sivan and all those other LGBT+ artists in the first place. I'm not saying that it determines his sexuality, I'm just using the exact same argument as you did with Taehyung? Why does supporting LGBT+ means something when it comes to Taehyung but not when it's about Jungkook? 

he doesn't admire troye sivan and other artists  but like some of their songs, big difference. taehyung straight up say his role models are that gay photographer and artists

They are popular in Korea among the same crowds as their Western audience. Your target audience doesn't change from one country to another.

no they are popular with everybody

When has he ever blushed in front of IU? He mentions her album as on of the first music album he ever bought and he choose her as his ideal type once in an interview years ago where they all had to answer with a celebrity name. He's been avoiding this question ever since ("I know name but I don't know face" anyone?)

call it what you wnat but he was obviously embarassed to be in the same space as her, plenty video about it

Okay so we're going conspiracy theory now? I told you, Jungkook started mentioning and covering him back in 2015 when Troye wasn't even that famous and BTS didn't even dream of western collabs. The only reason why they started collabing with him is probably because Jungkook's been a big fan since he's 17, there are plenty other, more famous western artists they could have chose.

And bang pd literally mentionned troye and posted his song on his twitter, make me think they have some kind of deal

He literally did, there's a whole ass video of it

Well unless you're calling him a liar, it's almost a meme in the fandom because he just keeps bringing up everytime he can. Like seriously last time it was an interview about fashion style and he managed to mention it again (calling RM sexy for the 873927092 times). Also he was like 13 when he met Namjoon, it's not hard to believe that his gay awakening made him choose Big Hit over bigger agencies considering his age. Lol what other benefit would he gain from debuting in a small agency in the brink of bankruptcy?

Fanservice as i said, he would never say he is crush if he liked him for real. Because he knew it would be hard to drill and make himself noticed in a big agency like JYP, there is a lot of contest there. 

G-dragon, RM, Hoseok (said he fell for a guy after Chicken noodle soup), Justin Bieber, Charlie Puth, Troye Sivan. That's a lot more interest that he's shown in any girl? Like aside from IU who he hasn't mentioned openly in years, who does he has an interest in?

G dragon is his role model, not his crush, "fell for a guy" common sentence used by straight korean to compliment a guy. 

Justin bieber and charlie puth/ troye sivan: he just like their song. 

IU= explicitely said she was his ideal type. 

Though i don't think he had a real crush on her. 

 

 

[Melany]

6 minutes ago, Josaline said:

I don't know why people denies that Jungkook as the member who has the most convincing girlfriend rumors and is sure that he is really interested in girls. He may be bi, but I think he lean more towards women and mostly his reaction to other mens is too ordinary when compared to other members. These are the things I can find about Jungkook and the girls,

 

  Reveal hidden contents

It is rumored that he has been separated and reconciled with this girl for several years.

Jungkook and rumored staff members who's no longer work with them.

And off course Rennis

 

 

https://bangtannews.weebly.com/bangtan-news/who-are-jungkooks-ex-girlfriends

he had like 3 predebut gfs lmao. 

[Melany]

1 hour ago, Sugasweet said:

 

I don't understand how you don't see the double standard in your logic. The mental gymnastics y'all are doing to prove Jungkook cannot be anything but straight when all of your arguments can be applied to Taehyung. What you told me so far:

1) Jungkook is straight because he might marry one day according to his members (even though he denied it), but then Taehyung literally mentioning wanting to marry and having a family with kids doesn't mean anything?

2) Jungkook is straight because he dated a girl when he was like 15 or younger, but then Taehyung/Jimin openly talked about dating girls in the past too 

3) Jungkook is straight because he answered to that one interview asking for their ideal type with IU's name, but all the members had to answer with a girl name and no one is saying they have a crush on those celebrities. Taehyung also mentioned Lily Collins and Rachel Macadams as his celebrity crushes, is he straight too ?

4) Jungkook is straight because he "looks likes he's flirting" (?) with some random girls/is looking at female idols for more than 10 seconds, but you have Taehyung reacting to Hwasa like this

And Jimin flirting with Halsey at every turn:

And somehow Jungkook is the one who's shown the most interest in girls? If Taehyung and Jimin can be bi, why can't Jungkook ?

5) Jungkook recommending gay artists, quoting gay movies, fanboying over several males (calling Rm his "boycrush", saying 'I love you" to G-dragon, etc), and breaking gender norms doesn't mean anything for you, but Taehyung doing the same is proof that he is interested in men? 

 

what taehyung did was for the public in a "omg queen" way and i agree jimin is flirting with halsey. i think jimin showed the most interest toward anyone because he is a very sexual person. 

Taehyung doing the same is proof that he is interested in men

taehyung watched call me by your name and said he admire the gucci creator (gay) and that a gay photographer who does gay art is his model.

what did jungkook did? liked troye music+ billie music + ariana music. He likes the music, that doesn't mean he admire the artist like taehyung does. Like all said jungkook is a versatile,curious person who like all kind of music. he said it himself that he doesn't have a specific taste in music. 

Jungkook is straight because he dated a girl when he was like 15 or younger, but then Taehyung/Jimin openly talked about dating girls in the past too 

if you watch that link i posted to @Josaline, you can see the girl he dated predebut is park sewon. It's the one he talked about in ahl.

But then he also dated 2 girls (1 in 2015 and the other in 2016 while he was in high school)

 

[Melany]

3 minutes ago, Sugasweet said:

How can you be sure? Were you in his head at that moment and you heard him say "omg queen"? Was he also thinking that during this performance?

 

See, I can use blurry camera angles and ambiguous reactions too...

I quoted way more artists than that tho, he has a whole ass LGBT+ playlist and I took the time to look for it again so please don't act like you've only read those three names. You're assuming that he only likes the music, but if he mentions 6+ LGBT themed songs in one short playlist, it's called a pattern.

I still don't see how Taehyung recommending gay movies is any different from Jungkook recommending and covering multiple gay songs, he said in the past that he always look at the meaning of the lyrics for the songs he covers. He also quoted the famous line "I'm still me" from the movie Love, Simon in one of his artwork, a LGBT+ movie with a Troye Sivan soundtrack that was recommended by RM, so he knows his classics too. 

Ah yes, we'll just take your words for it.

Anyways here's J-hope, Jimin and Taehyung talking about past girlfriends. I hope y'all apply the same logic to them and assume that they're 100% straight. I'm going to sleep

 

i think taehyung was talking about a boy here, because in one interview he said he dated a lot of girls but their relation ship  didn't last more than a day because he didn't feel love towards them. But well whatever he could be bi. I still think jungkook is straight, you think he is gay. that fine, good night.

[Melany]

12 hours ago, Bushi said:

If that's the case, I think I'd be expecting to see someone more like Rennis than Rose. I think the school girlfriends can be discounted by now, we're in 2020. But I wouldn't write the tattoo artist off. There was definitely something going on there, either totally platonic, and later embellished by warring fans and friends, or it was a romance and their cover was blown. Both scenarios seem feasible to me. 

Jungkook has always been someone who has attracted stories and gossip. He's supposedly dating a new female idol every other week if you tap into fangossip. It's tiresome, and more to the point, unverifiable. At the bare minimum almost nothing is ever proven. Even the Rennis episode was subject to huge outside fan influence in steering people down paths of belief, which others then debunked. I got fed up of the many alleys to nowhere and gave up looking into it. I chalked it up to Jungkook and his merry band of buds and shut the door on it. Fans and hangers on always muddy every water with their incessant squabbling and this case was no different. 

If Jungkook had a girlfriend, was fluid and non-committal, or he turned out to be the most gay member of BTS, none would surprise me. I don't think he gives a lot away, tbh. He's really learned to throw a wall around himself. There are other members who are considered trickier to fathom who leak non-straight emotional vibes more than him, imo.

I do see him as someone who likes to enjoy himself and who has fewer hangups than some of his peers. He is ultimately hard to read though. I still think he's developing emotionally and mentally. In the past I'd say 'work in progress.' And that opinion hasn't changed for me. 

But the one evidence we have had from his very recent free time and private life did involve a girl as the central figure. And whether she was friend or lover, she was there and I don't think she can be discounted. She was on the scene (at one point) to a degree that you'd say: hmmm, okay. But neither do I discount his crush on Namjoon for example. He might be bi but in practice have dated females only. You've got to factor in that openly dating guys is very risky for almost all male idols. It's a career killer in that country and they have a duty of obligation not only to themselves but their group. Still, there's also nothing to say Rennis wasn't a conduit to queer, underground subculture for him. Or a front for someone else he dated/dates. But at least she seemed organic, like he'd gone out and met her in his own time. Rather than fans picking an aesthetically-pleasing idol du jour for him. 

 

About Rennis, some korean fans proved that they stayed in some ghest house for some weeks together, most of them were convinced they dated so. There is a interesting thread summing up kfans thoughts.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited September 21, 2020 by Melany

[Melany]

6 hours ago, blurrr said:

Haven't we all agreed that JK was gay who was dating girls, like most of gays in conservative (and sometimes even not) societies? 

I'd name him first when it comes to gays in BTS, and I know I'm not alone

gay for what? his playlist, common let's be a bit serious, the only reason you think he is gay is because of his "glow up" like having long hair or wanting to paint his nails?? when it just jungkook being jungkook, who want to be a edgy guy and defy norms. 

It seems wishful thinking and projecting to me from you and you fellow gay jungkook stans.

Yall can ignore him showing interest to women because it's doesn't fit your narrative but then him listening to billie/ariana, folding his wrist once or twice in a while is gay, him saying he does his own makeup (he meant skin care like all korean men do) make him a yass queen

 Him kissing hoseok or complementing namjoon make him gay, and get a load of upvote here but him doing the same with jimin/ V get downvote, you are quick to label people as shippers.

Call me when he show attraction towards a guy outside of bts who is not his co member and that isn't fanservice (like Jimin , Yoongi and V did)

Edited September 21, 2020 by Melany

[Melany]

2 hours ago, tafattsbarn said:

Well we can all play this game. They were there with a whole group of friends, are they all in a poly relationship just because they hung out together at a guest house? 

 

 

Are you serious? do people not go with their gf and friends on a trip? Like my brother go everytime travelling with his friend and her bf.