Which male idols do you think are gay?

[lovergurl]

 

I'm talking about between Kai and Tao. Let's not play dumb.

 

 It's not playing dumb, it's being realistic that he prob has loyalty to both. Because a person is capable of having more than one best friend which seems to be the case with Sehun. It seems you're not aware of that so I'm just letting you know. You're welcome 

Edited January 2, 2014 by lovergurl

[lovergurl]

Sehun can have more than one best friend, but he's a bit closer to one than he is the other. I think we all know who that someone is. 

 

I 

 

 

think

 

 

 we

 

 

all 

 

 

do

 

 

 

Quite literally closer 

Edited January 2, 2014 by lovergurl

[lovergurl]

 

 

 

But

 

I

 

really

 

beg

 

to

 

differ

 

with

 

you

 

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that

 

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many

 

reasons

 

sorry

 

 

Which just proved my point that I've been saying forever, that he seems equally close to both. But if you feel like making it like some kind of fanfic love triangle in which Sehun has to choose, you're more than welcome to

 

Edited January 2, 2014 by lovergurl

[lovergurl]

 

Sehun doesn't have to choose. He's already chosen. It's clear that he's closer to Kai than he is Tao. Considering their long ass history and the way Sehun speaks about Kai (how they talk late at night about their lives, future, thoughts and feelings), I think that's obvious. You're the one with this bizarre aversion to Sehun being closer and having a stronger bond with Kai than he does Tao. I mean, open your eyes. There's a reason Sekai is always together. There's a reason Sehun and Kai can 80% of the time be seen sitting next to each other at awards shows, on the plane or in the van. There's a reason Sekai often go out late night shopping together without anyone else. It's because, wait for it, THEY'RE BEST FRIENDS. Sehun doesn't do half of the shit with Tao that he does with Kai. It's laughable for you to even claim he's equally close with both because he isn't, and as Exo progresses, that will become more and more apparent. You can reply to this or not — reality stays the same.

 

 

You really take this Sekai thing to heart huh? 

 

Ok, well considering how invested you are in this friendship, I'll just let you carry on with your thoughts

[lovergurl]

Regina is bringing up some valid points. No need to mindlessly bash someone for having a different opinion than yours...

 

If you're talking in regards to her debate with HanryuFan then I have nothing to say on that but if you're talking in regards to her assertion that Sehun isn't homosexual, then she hasn't brought up any more valid points than anyone else here in regards to his sexuality. People here, based on observation, have concluded that Sehun might be homosexually inclined. She has, based on observation, concluded that he isn't. The difference is that no one is passing their opinion about his sexuality here as if it's a fact and acknowledge that it's possible he isn't nor has anyone bashed anyone in thinking otherwise, unlike she. That's where the criticism comes from. Her persistence that her "evidence" is somehow more valid than rest here when in actuality there is no "evidence." It's all just speculation and her guess is as good as anyone elses. 

[lovergurl]

 

 

       Sehun is a fucking lucky bitch

 

 

He's not even my bias but best body in EXO. Not even a competition.

[lovergurl]

  

I think Kai definitely gives him a run for his money, but I'd be inclined to agree 

 

Kai is way too skinny for me. He has a very adolescent looking body so I can't see him in that way. Tao has that tall, muscular, lean, athletic body type that is generally favored.

Edited January 3, 2014 by lovergurl

[lovergurl]

good point lol. but he isn't like that with all the members who are all good looking in their own way. He's mostly affectionate with Sehun, Suho and Kris (and Luhan to an extent). But maybe that's just his childish way of showing affection and has nothing to do with romantic interest. I just think it's interesting that people here seem to think TaoHun is real but don't talk much about TaoRis or SuTao/TaoHo even though he's very affectionate with them as well.

 

1.) He's the most affectionate with them because he's the closest to them. He is always with atleast one of those three. Always. Luhan and Baek are also really close to him but he has a bickering relationship with them where they're affectionate but they show it by being bitchy to each other instead of being touchy and sweet like he is with the other three.

 

2.) People usually only talk about Taohun here because their relationship or how they are together is clearly different from how they are with anyone else in the group. Taoris is one of the biggest ships in the EXO fandom but in here I think most people think it's a brotherly love they share more than anything else and with Suho, it's clear Tao really loves him as a leader and a caregiver. He even updated his weibo talking about how Suho was the one person who can make him feel better when something goes wrong and how he loved his "Omma." Tao is someone that loves to love and loves to be loved. That's just who he is and he's so damn easy to read. So when someone shows him that kind of affection, he's seems to genuinely appreciate it...which why I think he expresses his love for Kris and Suho every chance he gets and in such a dramatic way. I think he's just really thankful that they care for him the way they do and have the patience to deal with a personality as sensitive as his. Probably similar to his parents maybe? Might explain his overt attachment to them and them to him. But I can't see him seeing them as anything more than that and vice versa.

 

Tao and Sehun are a different story and their interactions are just different. Tao doesn't express his affection for him in the same way as he does for Kris and Suho.....as in he does it mainly by action and rarely by words and same for Sehun. And they both seem to be the ones to have the highest chance of being gay so I think that puts them on people's radar more than other Tao ships. I don't think they're legit per say but it wouldn't surprise me if there is something there. I don't know what that something is though.

Edited January 9, 2014 by lovergurl

[lovergurl]

Honestly, I still think Heechul is bisexual rather than full on gay. Maybe I'm the only one but I believe him when he says he's attracted to girls. He never came across as the type to bullshit about what he likes and doesn't like. He would probably just stay quite if he really didn't feel that way. But who knows.

Edited January 10, 2014 by lovergurl

[lovergurl]

I just hope all exo member are gay 

 

 Nice username 

[lovergurl]

I just got the feeling that he's not that straight -_-

 

Why?

[lovergurl]

Ok, so there's a couple of people on Tumblr who are saying that Kris is gay and the reason why Tao went with Sehun was because Kris didn't respond to him... (which I can see the logic in that because Tao couldn't pine over Kris forever because that wouldn't be a nice feeling. Doesn't make him any less happy with Sehun now though.)

 

Like what? Kris strikes me as the straightest member out of EXO. He's a gay ally for sure, but not gay. I get zero gay vibes from him, and his answer to the ideal type question is always consistent (pure girl who can cook, is filial.) And I have a feeling he'll settle down with a nice girl someday like he wants to. They say that Kris got depressed last year because he had conflicting feelings about Tao and "didn't want to face up to his feelings" and that's why he and Tao haven't been as strong lately, because he has conflicting feelings about Tao and whether to "face up to those feelings."

 

I understand that Kris is an introspective person, but that's not 'cause he's gay. He also had family troubles last year so that could be why he's depressed. Tao and Kris have a strong friendship, but it's not the same as love, attraction and desire though, and it is possible to have a strong friendship without love. The reason why Kris and Tao never got together is simply because Kris doesn't swing that way. Tao is not pining for Kris, and Kris isn't pining for Tao. I don't think I've ever seen anyone on this thread seriously say they get any gay vibes from Kris, unless I'm mistaken.

 

I wouldn't say he's the straightest member. I think he's straight but Kris is, to me, the hardest member to read in terms of pretty much everything including his feelings (I don't mean romantic ones though, just in general) regarding Tao other than they're obviously best friends. He's pretty damn good at always showing just enough but never too much of himself so he always has some air of mystery behind him. So if he ever did have feelings for the same sex at some point in time, I wouldn't be surprised. I can't say for sure exactly what he is but for now I get a strong straight vibe from him. In terms of this thread, I think some may have had similar sentiments regarding Kris if I'm not mistaken, that he can be confusing sometimes.

 

I don't think there is anything there between them romantically nor have I ever thought either was attracted to the other in that way, but I can understand why people would think so. Kris is just different around Tao. Like he has a soft spot for him that he doesn't have for the other members or he'll tolerate more with him than he would with the others. But I think that's more of a brotherly bond than anything else. Still they're close in a way that Kris isn't with the others so I can understand why Kris might confuse some people. Plus he really tries to play up the pairing on Chinese shows with all those blatant sexual innuendos because he knows people like it. 

 

I also don't think they've grown distant this year or whatever else people say, they seem just as tight but now it's OT12 so obviously they're gonna spend some time with other members as well. They can't be together every waking moment. I think shippers just think too deeply about some things and make it more than it is. I saw some posts about how Taoris is arguing and blah blah blah because "OMG they didn't interact in an award show" or "OMG they're not wearing matching neckless' anymore." People need to relax. I doubt they argue as much as people think they do. And I doubt Tao's friendship with Sehun has anything to do with his friendship with Kris. He was close to both before debut.

Edited January 20, 2014 by lovergurl

[lovergurl]

I think Kris is generally hard to read. I mean, even on EXO Showtime, all he does is stick his headphones in. He seems a bit detached from the other members sometimes. I think he prefers to just sit back and let the others take the limelight. He's a good leader though. He's a stable, quiet, dependable leader. I still think of him only a straight, but he hides his personality. I don't think it's any reason to think he's hiding or grappling with his sexuality though. That's jumping a bit much to conclusions, especially when nothing else really suggests he's gay. I think some TaoRis shippers have a hard time believing that Tao could be happy with and fulfilled by someone that is not Kris, so that's why it's convenient to think that Kris is gay and that Kris is struggling with feelings for Tao. I don't get it though. But it's not really fair on Tao to expect him to pine over someone for years and years, so I'm glad Tao moved on. I think Tao and Kris probably haven't interacted as much in 2013, so that's why TaoRis shippers are upset. But we can't expect Tao to spend as much time with Kris as with Sehun. Tao needs to keep his priorities in check and Sehun is filling that need that Kris once did, and then some (meaning that Tao used to have a crush on Kris, but now Tao has moved on, as he has every right to.)

 

 

From what I've seen, I don't think most people think Kris is gay. More that he's gay for Tao. I guess. I don't know, people over analyze every aspect of Tao and his relationships with other members is no exception. I haven't seen as many analysis' of EXO ships and as in depth as I have seen with Tao ships for whatever reason. I mean people were tracking when Taohun wore their apparent "couple" bracelets or when Taoris were wearing matching jewelry for weeks, like really detailed stuff. It's odd.

 

I still don't think Tao ever pined for Kris sexually. He obviously admired him alot but I always saw it as how a little brother looks up to their big brother, mainly because I have a real life example of that so I never saw it as anything sexual. Plus him being gay doesn't mean that he's pining for someone just because he praises him all the time.

 

He seems to spread out his time with alot of members so not sure why anyone would think he's not spending enough time with certain members. He always with Kris, Sehun, and Suho (and Luhan and Baek but not as much). Shippers just over think some things.

Edited January 20, 2014 by lovergurl

[lovergurl]

I'm leaning more onto the side that Tao used to have a big crush on Kris. Some of the photos and videos I've seen of them in 2012 are just painful to watch because Tao just acts like a giggly schoolgirl around Kris, and Tao looks at him with really loving eyes. If they were only ever just friends, it sure was an intense friendship, with Tao being more into Kris than the other way around. Either way, I think Kris is probably glad that he isn't on the receiving end of those intense feelings anymore.

 

Well, it's not like Kris didn't play along though I think Tao was more genuine about it. Still I think both played up their interactions last year for shows (and this year as well). I don't doubt their closeness at all but I think they both knew that people like their interactions so they talked about each other alot. Tao more so but kid is always dramatic. He even made Kris cry on national television. I figure for Tao to be as intense about Kris as he is, Kris probably gave him reasons to be that way and most likely off camera. Kris isn't the type to show his emotions for the most part so it's hard to say if whatever those feelings were mutual or one sided. Tao is the same with Suho, always praising him and practically worshiping the dude but Suho is easier to read so you know he feels as strongly about Tao as Tao does to him.

 

I don't rule out that he might have crushed on him though. It's possible.

Edited January 20, 2014 by lovergurl

[lovergurl]

I think the reason for this is since Tao is so easy to read, people like to dig as much into him as possible, sometimes to the point where it's unnecessary tbh. I mean I see that Tao does make a lot of careless mistakes, but I highly doubt every single piece of jewelry he wears or every little thing he says or does is supposed to mean something significant. He's just a person who enjoys fashion and says dumb things but people tend to look to much into that.

 

Tao may not have been attracted to Kris sexually, but I do think it's possible that he had at least a small crush on him. I've seen pictures of him look at Kris like as boogirl said, a giggly schoolgirl and I haven't seen him act that way around other members. I also don't get what people see in Kris to think that he's gay, or even a bit for Tao because I honestly just don't see it. He's never done or said anything that would have made me suspect him, and even for Tao, he seems to just look at him as a younger brother. I think it's because of how feminine Tao is that makes people think there's a higher chance of Kris liking him, but in the end, I still don't think Kris swings that way. 

 

That's so true. I mean the essays that come out of people whenever Tao is brought up in any capacity is astounding. But what you said makes sense because sometimes I do something similar in that I tend to get a vibe of how the other members are or what their real personalities are like based on how Tao reacts to them because like you said, he really is easy to read and on top of that, he's also really really genuine and can't hide his emotions to save his life. So I think it's easier to get a better picture on things by looking at him than any other member. But as you said, sometimes people take it too far and that's what I find annoying. Not everything he does has some deeper meaning to it, sometimes people just need to let the guy be.

 

From what I've read, apparently people have seen Kris act differently around Tao when the cameras aren't looking. Like more attentive and soft towards him. So that got people speculating even more on possible feelings that Kris might have for him or something along those lines. I don't agree with it but who knows.

[lovergurl]

Tao sounds like another Key,Heechul ,Jaejoong that one member who can't really hide how they feel luckily good for the fans . I'm not into Exo I used to listen but they never interested me enough . It's just like when Key and I forget his name wore the same stuff ppl would say they were a couple .

 

I've always said that Tao is very much the Heechul of EXO. They are really alike in terms of being very blunt, honest, and straight to the point. They also happen to elicit very polarizing reactions from people because of it. I think they'd get along well.

Edited January 20, 2014 by lovergurl

[lovergurl]

So when does the part where Tao gets sassy/independent and will stop answering ideal type questions come in? 

I'm counting the days

 

Well his recent interview for EXO-M, he point blank just said he doesn't have an ideal type. He looks so over that question. Dude clearly gives no fucks so people should really stop asking him all the time.

Edited January 20, 2014 by lovergurl

[lovergurl]

Oh wow already.

 

That didn't take long.

 

Yep. Here's the video (sorry, it's not embedding for some reason). It's at the 7:15 mark if anyone is interested. I think he just didn't feel like giving the usual bs answer they're suppose to give so he was like fuck it. He seems alot more tired and quite in this interview than normal though.

 

Edited January 21, 2014 by lovergurl

[lovergurl]

Lol yeah, except Tao is clueless as fuck and doesn't know what he's doing half of the time xD Oh and, he's no where as confident as Heechul is. But I do agree both are extremely blunt and honest. 

 

I agree Tao is more clueless (I don't think he's conscious of keeping an image or as media savvy as Heechul naturally is)  but in terms of confidence, Heechul had alot of self-esteem issues during his time in SJ and he admitted as much. He even almost left the group before because of it. There was a period of time where he seemed really in a slump emotionally and he couldn't hide it. I think now that he's older, he probably doesn't have those issues anymore and the confidence he shows now is more genuine as opposed to the somewhat of a front it was in his younger days (this is another way him and Tao can relate so I'm hoping in time, Tao also gets over his insecurities and comes to really believe himself).

 

They're very different people but they have alot of similarities as well. I think if they met, they'd be able to relate well to each other.

Edited January 21, 2014 by lovergurl

[lovergurl]

Clueless and honest, and not very confident, sounds more like Jaejoong, to me. 

 

Heechul has always been confident and laid-back. 

 

Yea, he's alot like Jaejoong too. Though Jaejoong and Heechul also have alot in common, they've been close friends for as long as they have for a reason. I think Tao is like a fusion of the two. They should form a club and teach Tao their ways.

 

No way has Heechul always been confident though.

Edited January 22, 2014 by lovergurl

[lovergurl]

Some Taovi(?) for y'all:

 

 

The way Tao walks over and gives him a hug is just asjdakjdgshag 

 

Kid is definitely a social butterfly. He seems to make friends really easily. Even with PDs and staff members haha

[lovergurl]

I'm wondering when the first relevant idol comes out as gay what the international kpop community's response will be. Depending where they are from of course. I know it wouldn't mean too much because Korean fans dismiss what international fans have to say, but it might mean a lot to the person that has come out to have a flood of letters, photos and online support from an international fanbase.

 

I don't think that's going to happen in our lifetime to even know what the reaction will be.

[lovergurl]

Baekyeol topic :D

 

LOL. Chanyeol is Baeksexual. 

 

 

But I do agree that chanyeol seems straight.

But as for baekhyun,   

 

Random but Chanyeol looks adorable in your DP 

[lovergurl]

Okay, so SeHun has gone to visit Tao over their break. Thoughts?

 

This only makes TaoHun seem more real to me.

 

I just checked out the Taohun tag, lawd people are going cray cray. I mean Taemin and Kai in Japan are hanging out together so I don't know, it could very well just be a friend thing.

 

Is Tao spending time with his family, back in China?  Meeting the parents, I guess. =P

 

Yes, he's with his parents.

Edited January 31, 2014 by lovergurl

[lovergurl]

Do you think Tao's parents know his sexuality? Given their supportive attitude towards their son, I think they'll accept whoever he is if he comes out to his parents. 

 

 

Taohun helps me when I'm feeling blue  .

 

Kinda OT but It's so funny that Tao came to pick him up with two Mercedes, one for their luggage and one for them to ride on (the two cars in the gif). Because one was obviously not enough. I can't with this kid.

 

But his parents might know, from what I've heard, they seem the loving type but even then you never know how they'll react to something like homosexuality since it's such a taboo topic in alot of places.

 

The whole Taohun thing is cute but I think it's getting blown out of proportion (not here but everywhere else). People on twitter/tumblr are legitimately dissecting every aspect of them and Taoris/Hunhan because of this trip. It's just not that serious.  

Edited February 1, 2014 by lovergurl