Which male idols do you think are gay?

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Nope. This is mistrans. Correct one,

 

 

 

Click here to view the Tweet

 

It's not mistranslation, it's the misunderstanding of glitter_jk. Original translator did follow-up post:

https://satellite-jeon.tumblr.com/post/170278560605/i-usually-dont-like-to-make-screen-captures-and

 

Selection:

And Glitter JK is correct in that ìž¥ê°€ê°€ë‹¤ means for a man to marry. But she seems to think that I meant 장가가다 means “good for men to marry.†

 

No, that is not true:

 

• I pointed out the definition in the first part of that sentence: 장가가다 is only used when a man gets married. Which is true. Naver’s translation says: ë‚¨ìžê°€ 결혼하여 ë‚¨ì˜ ë‚¨íŽ¸ì´ ë˜ë‹¤ (When a man gets married and becomes another person’s husband).  
• The second part of that sentence is not a definition. It is my explanation of what that sentence could have meant, i.e., men would be lucky to marry Jimin.

I was merely pointing out that Jungkook used the wrong word for “marry.†That’s it.

 

Had he kept it without fixing it, he would had implied that the fan was either a man or that any man would be lucky to marry Jimin. But Jungkook corrected himself and used 시집오다 (some Koreans also heard it as 시집가다), implying that the fan girl in front of him or any woman would be lucky to marry Jimin.

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In Japan, the Adult age is 20 years old.

 

For sex is 18. 18~19 can do sex, porn and prostitution.

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BTS interview by E. Alex Jung (January 19)

https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/bts/8099577/bts-interview-billboard-cover-story-2018

 

Tweet by E. Alex Jung (January 19)

Click here to view the Tweet

 

 

Fan theory existing, but it's shipy so I won't say about.

 

 

 

 

Same with gravure, right? I've seen barely 18 female idols have gravure shoots. Possibly it's just me, but I feel uncomfortable when they're posing suggestively for a gravure magazine middle-aged men usually read... correct me if I'm wrong.

 

 

 

Gravure's by law not porn, so it's okay any age.

 

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Recently two jikook things. Please ignore if it's not interesting for you.

 

 

Development about infamous Osaka vlive:

 

https://kookminworld0507.tumblr.com/post/172553482029/

 

Now the situation at Osaka 2016 June: Loud sexy music from the Jungkook's hotel room, Jungkook not wearing clothes, somebody in the room, Jimin's items in the room, Jimin's voice in the room, V scold in end of broadcast, Jimin angry to V in next day.

 

Make the own conclusion.

 

 

 

 

 

Second is about episode 2~3 of YouTube Red Burn The Stage, which showing Jungkook's very sick from overheat and exhaustion.

 

Short clip

Click here to view the Tweet

 

In whole thing (not just clip) it's showing all member's worry. Suga privately cried in the toilet, everybody fretting, RM and J-Hope interview about. But Jimin is an only member who displayed Jungkook's side diligently. Even during embarrassing situation about take off Jungkook's pants, only medical staffs and Jimin staying.

 

Big Hit's choosing the contents of this show, but also respecting member's desire (example: not show Jungkook's shirtless because of he is modest). If member's showing friend privilege but Jimin's showing family/lover privilege, I think this is the Big Hit and jikook's desire of portrayal.

 

 

 

It's only some theory, but maybe you'll be interested about if you're still reading now. Some jikook supporter's thinking jikook may planning about coming out, or at least the glass closet. The whole situation is very strange recently.

 

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In this previous 5 pages I tried to count the upvoted shippy posts, but I ran out of fingers.

 

So why's it downvoted for only my post?

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I think people just find your post too shippy? I think because it focused more on the relationship of the two like they're lovers, than analyzing their interaction that can raise eyebrows, if you know what I mean.

 

People can just be uptight here when it comes to "pure" shippy posts, than those that can see signs of "gayness" (poor choice of word, but I can't think of anything better)

 

Compare

Person A is touching the knee with Person B.

or

Person A is in Person B's hotel room while Person B is naked and sexy music.

 

Compare

Person A did a flirty fanservice with Person B.

or

Person A is having the medical emergency, even many people are concern, only Person B is allow to Person A's side.

 

 

Bottoms are "pure" shippy, tops are "evidence" shippy? Be honest.

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maybe because there's no actual evidence that these things are facts, aside from that blog that thinks Jikook communicate with their fans via blue shirts and upload time stamps? No offense, that blog is rivalling some flat earth truthers in terms of reaching. I don't take shippy stuff like that seriously.

I don't like using Kookminworld's contents anymore, but sometimes she produce some correct infos in convenient format, so I only used that.

 

I will breakdown the situation objectively:

 

 

Fact: Somebody was inside Jungkook's hotel room with dim lighting and sexy music and naked Jungkook and lots of snacks

Conjecture: Sexy date in the Jungkook's hotel room

Fact: Person's voice sounded like male

Conjecture: Person was male

Fact: Jungkook did not know about V doing vlive broadcast, but he knew about V lying to say something other members' actions

Conjecture: Person in room was a member

Fact: Person's voice was identical to Jimin's voice

Conjecture: Person was Jimin

Fact: Some visible items resembled Jimin's items

Conjecture: Items were Jimin's items

Fact: Beginning, through the door Jungkook said something's sounds like "Jimin" before stopping to change his phrase

Conjecture: Jungkook was going to say "Jimin is here" but changed his mind about because of panic

 

 

 

and also cause you posted that you and your fellow shippers think that this means Jikook is preparing to go public with their "relationship"...which...lmao. Sure, that's a thing that's gonna happen.

I said from beginning I am only suspicious about jikook's relationship, I do not ship for fun.

 

Jikook shipper's for fun do not believe about this theory. Only suspicious about relationship believe the theory. If you are interested about I will compile some indications, but it seems you're not

 

 

 

 

lol i saw this on tumblr and this person explains it perfectly

 

 

not everything is about your ships smh especially not this..

I think this explains more perfectly

 

 

 

See, the question is not whether people care or not, because it is plain obvious that all the members were very concerned about JK and worried about his condition. They all voiced out their concern and came to check on his condition. By logic JM would be on the same line as the other members, and suggestion to leave the room would apply to him as well, however, that was not suggested or pushed by anyone. This is not about JMs caring nature either, this is about JKs volition and the overall overcome of all things considered in said situation. So the point here was about privacy and precedence; people acknowledging JMs privilege to be with JK in such a situation.

 

This is not really a KM moment, because this is not about ships at all. This is simply a further insight to their dynamics. About the two of them.

 

If there ever was/will be a situation when another member is in similar situation and JM would be the one to be allowed by their side, then that’s about that relationship. But this is about KM, and I can’t believe we need to be explaining this or giving any further reasons.

cr

 

Jungkook has some anxiety problem, and he finds comfort from Jimin (you can say it's platonic or romantic, but it really seems romantic), fans call it "Satellite/Magnet Jeon". Jimin staying, it's not a coincidence. Jimin is comfort force for Jungkook.

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Please stop romanticizing anxiety (or any other mental disorder) and using it to justify your ships wtf.

 

What???? My English isn't so good, but I didn't??

"Romantic" means opposite of "platonic" in this situation, surely?

I mentioned about because for this situation, it's not could be any member even they are willing like that user said, only Jimin because of a comforting presence. It's not about shipping. It could be because the brotherly feelings (I don't think so, but it's can be). Anxiety is not romance, please don't think such a thing and misunderstand me!

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As a person with anxiety myself, it rubs me off the wrong way when people use it to justify their ships. In my opinion, you (as in, all you jikook shippers, not just you personally) shouldn't even use the fact that Jimin comforted him as any sort of proof. Jungkook was having a hard time and Jimin helped him because you know he's not some insensitive as*hole who sees his fellow member suffering and brushes it off. That's it, that's all there is to it, you don't need to be into someone to help them if they're having a hard time, yet y'all had to go that extra mile and somehow make it romantic? Maybe worry about Jungkook's mental health insted of using it to prove jikook.

Is my English really so fucking bad so I can't be understood?

 

I'm not a shipper. Shipper is doing for fun. I think jikook are real couple, but if it's not true I'm happy for them still because I'm not shipping them. This is 100% only the observation, not desires. I never push my desire to real people like that.

 

As for your words: None of members are insensitive asshole, all were very much worry, how can you say that?? Jimin only stayed because of that different dynamic from other members. If you can only be able see this to be romantic, maybe it's really romantic? But Jikook supporter's not saying it's because of romance, but because of calming effect from Jimin (which I said can be cause from platonic, even I think it's not).

 

I feel like I'm bullied every time I mention about jikook evidences, even I never post anything's not evidence.

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I'm so happy about yoonkook story getting more "confirm" 

We love open-minded company 

 

 

 

 

 

you're mostly posting conspiracy theories though, not evidence. I think that's where the conflict arises from. I mean most of those "receipts" are reaching higher than Mount Everest.

 

plus you literally said the only member who could be a comforting presence for Jungkook is Jimin, which I think is kind of downplaying the connection he has to the other members. He's obviously close to Jimin, but to say he wouldn't have gotten as much comfort from, say Jin, in the room is...I mean you/we don't actually know these guys personally lol. I wouldn't even make a statement like that about some very close friends, much less a total stranger.

 

and nobody is coming out anytime soon, like...are people really that naive. They haven't even done their military service. They have a great shot at a successful solo career and are hella ambitious. How can you say you're not projecting your own desires onto someone when you wish for them to basically self-sabotage themselves cause it would validate all those theories.

 

 

 

Tell to me when I said I wish them to come out? I wish them to be happy, I think them to come out. If it's not that case, I'll support anyway, whatever they do, even dating to somebody different, even dating to girls (but I think Jimin is gay, so probably he will not date girls).

 

I think you are very bias against this idea of jikook to be a couple, so you intentionally misunderstand my meanings and dismiss real evidences as "conspiracy theories". I don't care about it if you disagree, opinions are opinions, but please be more respectful to other opinion's not your own.

 

Seriously, is any other couples treated so badly in this thread when presented evidence? Even "reaching higher than Mount Everest" evidences usually getting the positive reaction.

 

Whatever.

 

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You guys are so silly  

 

 

 

Anyway, maybe you guys won't like it, but some more a bout Burn The Stage Jungkook medical situation which can be considered be suspicious

 

 

 

https://vimeo.com/264184898

 

Situation is Jungook is feeling bad, staffs and J-Hope and RM and Jimin are fretting, but, member's must be go away to stage.

 

Fans noticed a false subtitle during this moment (actually, many false subtitles for many moments, lots of fans are angry, but it's unrelated). Written is "Jimin, let's go" (same in Japanese), but spoken is "지민아, 먼저 올ë¼ê°€. 너 먼저 올ë¼ê°€ê³ , ì •êµ­ì´ ë‚˜ì¤‘ì— ëŒë¦¬ë©´ ë¼" (native speakers agree about it, including some muggles).

 

Translation is "Jimin-ah, go up first. Go up first and we can just send Jungkookie your way after" (not my translation).

 

Translator had said it's very difficult to translate with nuance, so for the sake of transparency:

 

지민아 ― Jimin-ah

먼저 ― first

올ë¼ê°€ ― go up

 

너 ― you

먼저 ― first

올ë¼ê°€ê³  ― go up and

ì •êµ­ì´ â€• Jungkookie

ë‚˜ì¤‘ì— â€• after/later

ëŒë¦¬ ― to point (in the direction)

ë©´ ë¼ â€• it's enough/it will suffice (to point)

 

Implication is Jungkook→Jimin instead of Jungkook→stage or Jungkook→members

 

So, question is: Why? Even all of members are worrying, why only Jimin?

Speculation is: Same reason for him staying to Jungkook's side during the treatment later.

 

 

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I really don't think you can read anything into this moment because people naturally react differently in these situations. One member staying and the others not doesn't really represent who is closests or possible relationships.

But why the staff said to Jimin as if he's Jungkook's keeper? He didn't said "You guys go up, we'll send Jungkook to the stage". He said "Jimin go up, we'll send Jungkook to you".

 

If you don't think it's suspicious, pretend it's different people. It becomes suspicious 100%.

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There are so many reasons why they might have said that. 

 

Like, I fully think things slip more in behind the scenes material then scripted shows but this situation has blown up for no reason at all imo.

Burn The Stage is not scripted.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shipping_(fandom)

 

Shipping, initially derived from the word relationship, is the desire by fans for two or more people, either real-life people or fictional characters (in film, literature, television etc.) to be in a relationship, romantic or otherwise. It is considered a general term for fans' emotional involvement with the ongoing development of a relationship in a work of fiction. Shipping often takes the form of creative works, including fanfiction and fan art, most often published on the internet.

Shipping is desire only. Fictional. Evidence is not shipping, it is support.

 

So, I am 32 years old gay man, I am Japanese, I speak Korean. I completely believe it that Jungkook and Jimin are dating for real. I don't desire this relationship, I do not ship. If I am wrong, I will be wrong. It's okay, I had said before, for them I only want whatever happiness. But nobody respects my opinion or any evidences, only calling to me "shipper" and insults and lies. It's so rude.

 

I am just human, but I care about objectivity. I listen to other evidences. I do not insult or lie or rude. Even I think they are wrong, I do not sneer to them.

 

I think Jimin is gay, Jungkook is bi. I said before. But, because I believe they are dating relationship, and because I believe they are making the glass closet, sometimes their relationship can't separate from the discussion. I do not ship, but I put the spoiler tags from respect. Respect which does not return to me.

 

 

Below, I will talk about some previous responses which were false.

 

The medical situation is not shipping moment. It is, displaying of difference in relationship to to other members. Because I believe they are the dating relationship, and wanting glass closet, I respect them by recognizing.

 

In BV S2 Jimin did not stay to J-Hope's side when he is sick, only coming later for checking. In Jin and V argument, Jimin left to another room, only coming back later for saying it's time to sleep. Jimin is caring, but, please do not lie and saying it's the same reaction.

 

All of member's worrying about Jungkook, it's too obvious. But, why it's only other member's easily to leave, and Jimin needing comfort from staff before leaving? At that time, Jungkook's condition is not worse than J-Hope's in the BV S2, why Jimin suddenly is reluctant about leaving? Even his job is more urgent than BV S2 situation because of it's a concert? He should leave. Maybe you do not think it's suspicious.

 

Looking recently, maybe if it's eunhae you will think.

 

Anyway. Maybe you believe jikook is brotherly connection. Okay. I respect it. I disagree about, thinking it's romantic, but I respect your difference. But it's so obvious something is different from other members, even vmin who are the best friends.

 

 

 

If I will get the negs, I will know intent isn't important.

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I thought this was very interesting. It's analysis of both G.C.F by a director 

 

 

https://thebangtankaijuu.tumblr.com/post/173460365065/gcf-in-tokyoosaka-a-directors-outlook

G.C.F in Tokyo/Osaka - a director’s outlook

 

Well, Jeon Jungkook has done it again ;D

 

A few weeks ago, I decided to re-visit G.C.F in Tokyo, as I do very often, for some mental peace. I’d been wanting to share my two cents on it for the longest time, but since many of the reviews I read here on Tumblr were similar to my own thoughts and sentiments, I hesitated. But then I thought, why don’t I take an outsider’s opinion on the video and share that instead.

 

A professional director’s opinion, for instance.

 

So I contacted a close family-friend, who is a veteran Indian film-director/screen-writer. A brief insight into his background:

• He is 60+ years old.
• He’s been in the film-industry for approx. 40 years.
• Won Best Debut Director award and several screen-writer accolades
• One of his films won twenty-three international awards at the Cannes film festival
• His first noted screenplay was for the first Indian 3D film.
• He comes from a society where male/male romantic relationship is not seen as common-place, even in movies.
• He is not familiar with Kpop groups/music or Korean entertainment industry.
• To say that he took an immense liking to JK’s video and his skills as a director/editor/story-teller would be an understatement. He LOVED it. I had originally planned to post his thoughts as a stand-alone review on G.C.F in Tokyo, but since JK decided to drop his second bomb on us today, I jumped at the chance to show him his new video.

Needless to say, he LOVED G.C.F in Osaka too. And since he had a lot to share about both videos, I think it would be better to share his comparative thoughts on both.

 

(Disclaimer: I did not disclose any info on both videos as well as about BTS, to keep his opinions as unbiased as possible. The context he perceived was JK as a semi-professional director and the videos as his ‘short films’. He thought JM to be an actor in the first video (deduced from the end credits). In the second video he concluded that all the boys are JK’s actor-friends)

 

Initial impressions:

 

(on G.C.F in Tokyo)

 

“The actor in the movie is a personification of the director’s happiness, pleasure and joy. He uses the actor’s actions to show us his own emotions, reflected off of the other. The immediate narrative we get is that of a love story. He uses [JM] to showcase his love for the city he is in, the company he is with, the events he goes to etc. But the focal point, the crux for all of his emotions is [JM]. Without the actor in it, this becomes a travel video. With [JM], it becomes a movie with a story. More than a simple recording of the trip, it’s a narrative with a purpose. Every shot was intentional and in tune with the music and the lyrics, meaning he’d already picked out the song and was likely humming it in his head as he shot the clips.

 

Contrary to the title, this video is not about Tokyo.â€

 

(on G.C.F in Osaka)

 

“The narrative here differs from the first, but not entirely. It is more of a sequel I’d say. Here, [JK] balances out his focus between the city (Osaka) and the actors. He paints the city as a caricature but he uses a very limited range of motion. There a lot of elements referenced from the first video, especially the shots with the first actor [JM], which means that he is continuing his narrative of ‘love and happiness’. The added narrative from this video is ‘friendship and fun’, as showcased by the rest of the actors, mainly by the masked actor’s [TH] and [JM]’s playfulness.

 

I wouldn’t use the same actor [JM] to portray the same narrative unless I am filming a sequel movie, since without correlation the original narrative could easily get lost. Had he not filmed the first video and posted it before this, we would miss out on this double narrative and only take it as ‘friendship and fun’. The reference to the first video was intentional, hence the double narrative is made clear. Here the crux of his emotions branch out among all the actors, but with a very biased focus on [JM’s] narrative.â€

 

On the song choice and focus of the lyrics:

 

Was the song choice random or deliberate?

 

“Given the amount of detailing that has gone into capturing each shot, it is clear that the songs for both videos were chosen intentionally. When a director wants to tell a story to the audience, every single element requires careful planning. Similar elements in both videos - the traffic signal shot in the first referenced in the clock ticking shot in the second - can attribute to this fact. However, the level of planning put into both videos is very different.â€

 

What about the lyrical focus? Does that have any significance?

 

“It is indeed interesting to note how he carries over the narrative from the first video not just via the shots but also through the song lyrics. Lyrically, the message from the first video aided the single narrative. ‘I’ll be there for you’ was the message, spoken with a clear focus on the actor in the movie. In the second video however, the message is not to the actors in the movie, but to the audience watching it.â€

 

Which part of the lyrical focus stood out to you the most?

 

Around 3.43-3.50 in the second video, the focus is particularly interesting to me since it is a direct correlation to the clips in the first video. We see the lyrics ‘I got me someone else instead’ being focused on the first actor a lot, indicating the first narrative. The lyrics that immediately follow, ‘He’s taking your side of the bed’ focuses on the masked actor, the second narrative. From a story-telling perspective, this tells me that the first narrative of ‘love and happiness’ takes precedence over his second narrative of ‘friendship and fun’. This is only seen if the second video is taken as a sequel to the first video, which he has already made clear that it is.â€

 

What do you think about the bit where the music cuts off and we hear them talking/laughing?

 

“That bit was beautiful, I applaud him for including that. Not only was it a very direct link to the first video, where he showed [JM]’s, and by extension his own, happiness through the actor’s goofy dancing and bright laughter (referring to JM ‘dancing’ in disneyland, the street, the suits shop etc), this time we have the sounds along with the visuals. He did it only with [JM], meaning he dived deeper into the first narrative and not the second. That clip was not about Osaka, it was about Tokyo. I’d say he was reminiscing Tokyo in Osaka. The correlation between both videos is the strongest in that clip. Now when I go back and watch the first video, and the clips of [JM] laughing, I will be able to clearly hear his laughter. To an unfamiliar audience, that bit is very very precious. It’s like a color blind person seeing color for the first time.â€

 

On the overall editing:

 

"The editing is beautiful and differently done [in G.C.F in Osaka], yet in a familiar style reminiscent of the first video. He’s brought out a lot of similarities from the first video, mainly the shots with the first actor. I’d say he referenced the first video deliberately. Notable added elements would be the second actor [TH]. The director used him and the other actors to paint the city as a caricature, with a playful vibe. He’s excited to be here with them. While in the first video he is hugging that ‘city’. showing a huge infatuation, a loving vibe, he’s showing pleasure, love through the emotions reflected on [JM] in the first video.â€

 

"What camera does this guy use? How do i make him my assistant? Or become his assistant, whichever works best.†(lol, JK you have a new fan looks like)

 

Any bit that stood out as funny or weird?

 

"There were a few shots where he included the filming crew I think? Who was that fourth guy? (I told him he was the manager-hyung). Nice of [JK] to include him but I wonder, if he wanted to show an intimate side to their friendship he would not have included that person. Considering the similarity to the first video’s elevator scene, he’s showing the same element - using the first actor - in different settings. With friends, without friends. I think his focus here is still the first actor. He seems pretty obsessed with [JM]â€

 

Why do you think he’d be obsessed with [JM]?

 

"I don’t know, but if I were him I’d use both actors to tell different narratives. He used [JM] to show love and pleasure for the 'city’, like I mentioned. In the second video, in a totally different city, he used the same actor to show friendship, fun and playful excitement BUT he was able to do it only with the addition of [TH]. Without him, the narrative is still the same as the first video. Every bit where he focused on the first actor alone was the same story re-told in the same fashion. Even the shots were similar. [TH] kept it goofy, friendlier. Clearly he has boxed them into these roles in his head so it makes sense, from a story telling perspectiveâ€

 

What do you think about the actors (JM and TH) in the second video? How did their acting seem to you?

 

"Goofy friends doing goofy things. [TH] is very aware of the camera. [JM] doesn’t bother about it much. i think he’s the one the director films the most, that shows why he’s more natural here. He was very natural in the first video as well, his ‘acting’ was not acting at all. It reflects in the second video, and the way he ‘directs’ [TH] in some shots. When an actor is attuned to a director’s style of filming, he ends up not acting on camera and projects his actions naturally.â€

 

"Where are the other two actors though? They just ate and left. Guess their narrative was not important here so he fired them. I can relate to that†(lol)

 

Concluding thoughts:

 

So, any final takeaways from both these videos?

 

“Plenty. This person is telling us a beautiful story, one that is abundant in love, happiness, friendship but with the undertones of longing, apprehension, an ache of some sort. It’s beautiful yet bittersweet and he can only express it with the people around him. He masks his frown by using their smiles to reflect his smile. It’s subtle, but to me it is very hard to ignore. I want to shake his hand for a video well made, but also hug him tight for a story well told.â€

 

“A director always uses references that are symbolic to him first and foremost when he is telling a personal story. Both these videos, while professionally shot and edited for the most part, convey narratives that are personal to [JK]. The creative romanticism in both videos are very apparent, portraying very different vibes yet staying true to [JK]’s personal style. He is someone who writes a lot in between the lines, but leaves very apparent hints on where we can find them. There is no need to over analyse, everything is laid out neatly, artistically. He sings to us through his videos, and the actors in them, especially the first actor [JM] whom I feel is the most attuned to his style, dance beautifully to his song.

 

[JK] is already a wonderful director in my eyes.â€

 

 

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this rumor item is really bothering me

 

ㅇㄷㄹㄱ (XDRK, X stands for any vowel, K could be romanized as K or G depending)

 

if the first letter had been J it would be GDragon (Ji-deu-rae-gon), but it's not...

it's probably either a similarly odd stage name or a foreigner-style name but i can't think of anyone back in 2010.

 

unfortunately i don't know much about the kdrama/TV celebrity scene so a lot of these names i feel are lost on me :c

 

André Kim?

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Just some more coincidence about Jimin & Jungkook November 8

 

If you don't know, supporters believe about November 8 to be the anniversary of those two.

GCF in Tokyo was uploaded in November 8, but now ARMY discovered Jimin & Jungkook's Tokyo hotel room number too was 1108

https://komegaichibanumai.hatenablog.com/entry/2018/06/19/010143

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In the J-Hope video he said

ì—°ì• ìš´ì´ ì¢‹ë‹¤ë„¤ìš”. ì–´ë–¤ ì—¬ìžê°€ 올까요? 여기서 "남친 구-- 여친 구함" ì„.

My romance luck is good. What kind of woman will come? Put here "taking applications for boyfr-- girlfriend".

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Again, I think it's based on one's own sensibility, I never heard of shipping before BTS and I'm not a child, not even naive so I don't get excited when I see skinship or display of affection between two persons - and despite this, when I saw Taehyung and Jungkook behavior I immediately felt there was something more and real going on and I went to research about that.

 

When I did my researching I discovered that a lot of people were aware of the same things that made me do some thoughs but at the same time there were others calling those people delusional for writing such things so, again there is no objective truth. Everyone judge based on their own sensibility and experience.

 

Be careful, most of those evidences are fake. Even there are some fake rumors and photos and many of fake translations get spread. In the private chats taekooker's talking about making the fake evidences because "they know" taekook are dating, so to their minds, it's okay to do such a things. They threatening to other takookers who's express some doubts.

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aren't you a hardcore Jikook shipper? pot calling the kettle black there tbh

 

 

 

Shipping is different with supporting, it's the same conversation just before, isn't it?

 

But, supporting is different like this too. In jikookers, fake evidences pointed out and shamed is usual. I think taekooker's are only doing such fake evidences out of any of BTS's couples maybe. I never saw such behavior before.

 

Furthermore, pot calling the kettle black? I never never deny it if Jungkook or Jimin show the attraction to other people. I never deny close with other people too. I said before (maybe here, I don't remember) I think Jungkook and V attractive to each other, but no more above that. Jimin loves to be flirt around, he has such a personality. Jungkook had the crush for RM in a younger time, very obviously. I will never deny such things, because I don't care about that who with they are dating, it is that just I think they are dating with each other. If tomorrow Jungkook or Jimin says "I have a girlfriend/boyfriend" and that is not about each other... I will confused, but support 100%

 

Even furthermore, there are many of extremely suspicious behaviors recently. But did I post them to here? No. This thread's members did make that clear about they don't want to see. I respect it. Even jikook trended globally on twitter because of their behavior, I endure and do not make posts. Even it's okay to be post similar things about other couples and ships. But I never get the respect back. So I will only read from now.

 

Edited October 8, 2018 by honeymaple

[honeymaple]

I don't really understand the nuance between "not limited to" and "not just with", but as a gay Japanese I instantly understood his meaning to be bisexual. I believe the only reason which is why people ignore that is because of heteronormativity.

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Such phrasing is very common for gay and bisexual to signal to each other "hey I'm not straight". I think straight will always interpret it in such a way like "oh he is straight but talking about platonic now" or "oh it is a joke haha", but they will say themselves about "not limited to dating" or "not limited to love" in this situation. For Koreans especially they say "not limited to between man and woman" and such  but, "not limited to opposite sex" is more strange I think.

 

Heteronormativity is very powerul, celebrities can get away with much. But not too much. I think Yoongi intended his statement "I am bisexual, you will notice if you're not straight". But some straight people noticed, so he joked about "my heart doesn't flutter for between men" to say "straight people please forget about it!!"

 

This is just my opinion, but I think the possibility of he meant "I am straight and it's platonic conversation now" is low. It's easy to recognize for gays.

 

I hope it helps, please make your own opinions 

 

Now that I'm back I have some recent evidences about a certain couple, but I think it will not be liked, so I don't know if I should post it to here... I don't want to make anybody upset, but it's very big evidence  

 

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Johnny's is like gay kingdom of pervert Johnny. Or, so some people view it like that. So I think many rumors will happen no matter what. Some people say at least half must be gay, maybe more. But I think that's just the entertainment industry generally.

 

I don't know much about most of them, but Akanishi is probably bisexual. He is known well to party with girls and also visiting often to Nicho (Tokyo gay disctrict). But I don't know what he's up to lately....I searchd him and the first result is a song called "Fill Me Up", oh okay (with what, sir???) 

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Um why would dispatch upload this on their ig? Are they trying to be slick...

 

Isn't it from September? I can't see the post now.

 

But, Jimin gave to Jungkook a fashionable bag for his birthday present. In the picture Jimin says "I saw Jungkook's airport fashion but it was all camera bags", Jungkook says "Jiminie hyung present fairy, present fairy Park Jimin ssi". I don't think it's anything weird, unless Dispatch posted that today. But, it's not there, so I think maybe it's from September?

[honeymaple]

Oh! I found it! I was looking at the wrong place haha

 

But I don't trust Dispatch. They like to make drama. It can be a hint, but maybe it's just some drama I think. "Oh, you saw the rumor? Will it be this gay couple? No haha, but give us more attention."

 

Regarding that promise of not outing any gay couple... Dispatch will out a gay couple. If they can do it, they will do it. I don't know who will it be. I think maybe it's just, at that time, whoever didn't pay to the blackmail.