Which male idols do you think are gay?

[KiriL]

9 minutes ago, Josaline said:

I can understand liking or following something by accident but a whole post + caption?! If he was drunk he would not have deleted it so fast. No way he didn't do it in purpose. He knew what he was doing. Man really changed his caption and decided to delete it all together as if we hadn’t caught on already lol

 

Wait. What happened with caption? I didn't catch info about caption, can you, please, tell? And yeah, I agree, it was totally on purpose: to show his interest, but cause the interest isn't appropriate to delete it in few secs like nothing happened while knowing for sure that fans will catch it in 4K regardless.

[KiriL]

2 minutes ago, miwa201 said:

Originally he posted it with a heart eyes emoji.

Ah, I see. Thank you)

[KiriL]

1 hour ago, miwa201 said:

Well, yeah, I know, I mentioned that. But it's precisely because he posted it in a story right after the Leslie Cheung post that people started pointing out that Jungkook is in the photo and seeing it as a hint of something, especially since it was coupled with a love song in the background. I really don't understand what he was trying to say with that story.

Well, nobody knows what exactly is going on in Tae's head and it all indeed can be just a coincidence and an example of some chaotic energy messing with ppl's heads at 4 am. I just can give my personal opinion. I still do think that all his actions were not random and he knew what he was doing (honestly maybe even him deleting randomly staff before was to kinda prepare ppl that he can do it easily and it's just for fun so he can show glimpses of smth what actually matter but ppl would have a right of a doubt now ). As for a pic with Kook. Hm. Honestly I only now found out that some floating thingy there is apparently a Kook, for me it's always been and still is a pic of a beautiful view with half-naked man as the most acceptable form of having an image of half-naked man publicly when you live in a country like SK. I still think he uses it as 'confirmation' of lgbt innuendo from previous post. Be it morally correct or not but he indeed might use this exact pic of half-naked man cause fans (and more importantly shippers) know that some floating thingy there is Kook thus he was purposely diverting narrative to this direction. Maybe he did it to protect himself cause obviously company wouldn't like their cash cow and fangirls attractor to suddenly make a coming out at 4 am while giving a content to shippers who will become even more obsessed and threw even more money into them will be very much pleasing. Or maybe he was pleasing shippers due to the order from company cause few days ago dumbasses were trending shjt and were demanding 'to respect taekook and their relationship' cause the ship in that Chakho webtoon was not taekook but namkook. Or maybe he just forgot that some floating thingy on a pic is Kook lol It can be anything tbh, but imo the main point is lgbt actor + half-naked man with a love song as bgm.

Edited January 20, 2022 by KiriL

[KiriL]

3 hours ago, jhsee said:

Hello everyone,

This is my first time posting here, I have discovered this page a few months ago and I wanted to ask people here what they think about Taehyung's relationship with Hoseok (j-hope).

It seems to me almost everyone here agrees that Taehyung is gay or at least bi. So when a gay/bi man shares a picture of himself with another man in the middle of the night during rain storm while they are on vacation together on their break, what could it possibly imply? Not to mention they both said their families were with them too.

I want to say that I'm not a shipper, at least in the sense that I don't consume fan-made content like fan fiction or fan art. Every single thing that made me go "hmm" at those two are real and unedited moments between them. So I'm really curious, how does nobody, not even people here who discuss "possible gay idols" never notice those two?

You are probably a new fan, right? Cause actually due to Rookie King and all the shenanigans Tae has done towards Hoseok vhope was CRAZY popular when BTS just debuted, it started to loose popularity cause Hoseok 'cancelled' it at some point (you know, it's kinda hard to ship hard when one of the sides basically runs away from the other with any given opportunity and cuts skinship and overall fanservice as much as possible) but it still was kinda holding up to +-2015/2016, the craziness was literally comparable with nowadays tae/jikook just the size of fandom was smaller. Hoseok 'warmed up' towards Tae again only recently when Tae said that he for years has been working a lot to get a praise from Hobi. Btw, I am obviously talking only about public content for fans, cause they still have had nice relationship behind the cameras anyway.

And their relationship and particularly Tae's contribution to it were discussed here on thread too, from what I remember people were actually more acceptable to the idea of vhope being a possible real-life couple in comparison to how they feel about said tae/jikook, also there were ideas that's it's one-sided thing due to Hoseok's attitude. As for vhope content from recent years then I am not sure if anyone posts it here, but probably someone does (maybe I posted smth too, tbh don't remember already what I have posted here), but also it's probably kinda hard for people to consider such content seriously as anything related to mlm considering how 'cancelled' this dynamic is cause no matter if person here is a fan of BTS or not they still mostly absorb BTS content through the prism of fans' perception since that's where the information about BTS comes from.

As for "man shares a picture of himself with another man in the middle of the night during rain storm while they are on vacation together on their break" I doubt it implies to anything. But ngl I am kinda surprised how secretive they have been about them being on vacation together, I mean, they are members of the same group, nothing strange about them having fun together, instead the only thing that came out from it was only Tae posting some blurry pic of them both. Maybe they simply just wanted to keep smth to themselves.

 

[KiriL]

3 hours ago, jhsee said:

Yeah, I'm a new fan, I became a fan after Dynamite. The reason I became interested in "vhope" is because Hoseok was the first member to catch my eye and ever since I started watching BTS content like Run, BV or ITS, I have always thought he is gay. It is part of the reason why I posted here, because I'm genuinely baffled as to why so many people think he is straight. I simply cannot see him as "the straight one". I became aware of Taehyung's treatment of him later and it confused me because I didn't think of the other members as gay before (maybe I didn't pay enough attention).

I did read before that they were a popular pair for some time between debut and 2015. I also understand why people would be wary of the threads I linked, but I posted those threads because everything in them are either things they said or did. No code-breaking or zooming into blurry pics (at least I didn't see any).

One of the reasons I posted here was that everybody always talks about Taehyung recommending Call Me By Your Name. Why does nobody pay attention to the fact that it's Hoseok he is recommending that movie to? I don't know, it just seems to me when it comes to Hoseok, everybody just brushes it off "he's straight anyways" and moves on. I just don't understand why people think Hoseok not doing fan service would mean that he is straight either.

From what I observed, Hoseok always compliments Taehyung, not just on his looks but his talents as well and I truly do think he treats him differently than the other members. Because when he is with one of the hyung line, I only see friends/co-workers and with Jimin and Jungkook I almost get "maternal vibes" like those two are his children. I also don't believe that it is one-sided, because I don't think Hoseok would be oblivious to not notice Taehyung's affections until 2020 and if he did notice and rejected him, then Taehyung would have to stop. But it's not like he stopped. I just think Hoseok is more secretive and careful.

I see. Well, personally I definitely see that Hoseok is attracted to women, he can be bi, of course, but I don't see him a gay tbh.

Ppl don't pay attention to vhope simply cause taekook is too big now, in fans' mind Tae is 'occupied' by Kook, so no matter what vhope do now fans will just not focus on this.

About recommendation. Idk, never really put a lot of weight to the fact that Tae recommended it exactly to Hoseok, always thought that Call Me By Your Name was just so important for Tae at that moment that he just wanted to share about it as much as possible. Also I think that ppl don't pay attention to this much due to persona of members, cause in Tae's case who consumes a lot of lgbt-related content this recommendation just looks like another suitable piece of a puzzle, while in case of Hoseok, who has never been connected to anything lgbt-related much and hasn't recommended anything like that as well, it just doesn't mean much. Honestly the only thing (correct me if I am wrong) I can remember from Hoseok which is related to lgbt is him recommending Brockhampton song cause one of members is lgbt, but, for example, if I wouldn't be on this thread I wouldn't even know about this fact cause I don't really care about musicians besides their songs, maybe Hoseok knows about this fact or maybe he is like me - if it was Tae who recommended it I would assume the first but since it's Hoseok I lean towards the latter. I think other people think kinda like this too and indeed brush it off. And it's not like Hoseok doesn't do fanservice, he does it, rarely but does, but tbh his fanservice is so no-homo or he turns everything into smth comedic especially when fanservice is initiated not by him but by other member.

The bolded part is exactly how vhope conspiracy theories were back then) I feel nostalgic tbh

[KiriL]

23 minutes ago, annetamiau said:

I don't get why so many people think J-hope is straight. Like, I absolutely agree that there's nothing romantic between him and any members of BTS, but I wouldn't say his flamboyant personality is completely fake. He's not naturally hyper, but all the mannerisms are still there. Plus, during MAMA 2018 he unpromptedly said that he 'really felt and learnt that there are lots of people out there experiencing various types of love' (I had to look up the quote), which to me reads as a reference to the LGBT+ community. And that was absolutely unprompted and in the context of an emotional time (it was the same award ceremony where he broke down and Jin said that they had considered disbanding a few months earlier). I'm not saying he isn't bisexual, but I highly doubt he is straight. 

Oh, yeah, this phrase! Such an interesting one. When I saw translation of his phrase I also immediately though about lgbt and I even watched dkdktv video about this speech (cause they are Koreans and I trust their explanations about Korean nuances) and they also assumed that it was related to this) I am gonna be honest with you here, cause assuming that it's indeed about lgbt the most interesting part in the whole phrase for me is that he used word 'learnt', cause it's like he wasn't aware of such before or he wasn't aware about such in some close proximity to him. Imo both are possible, no matter how most people would think about the first option as about a crazy one, but no matter what he definitely showed his support to whoever it was addressed just in general or more personal.

About flamboyant thing. Obviously nothing can be completely fake, Hoseok is very multi-layered person, there is so many sides in him, yet according to his own words he is actually very serious and calm outside of work, but even at work nowadays, when Jin also started to be a clown of the group and it's not only Hoseok's role you can see how he shows less and less flamboyancy. I honestly don't really see mannerism when he is not on his extreme hyper or clown mood, but that's just me.

[KiriL]

13 hours ago, OptimusPremier said:

 

I just went through comments under this tweet and they are saying it's a mistranslation, do you know if it's true or maybe it's some of those nuances which one translator can translate in one way and another in slightly different way?

12 hours ago, lgbtxt said:

does Yoongi have any recent receipts? whenever people bring him up it’s always stuff from severallll years ago. i have no opinion on him personally but i’m curious

One of his recent receipts is that he bought lgbt-themed shoes. What is interesting about this is that people were trying to say that it doesn't mean anything (as people usually do when smth lbgt related going on regarding members) but apparently those shoes were from some limited collection which you could buy only by coming in person to the shop which implies that he indeed knew what he was doing and for what he went to the shop. At least that's what I read on twitter so correct me if somebody knows better and I am wrong.

[KiriL]

6 hours ago, OptimusPremier said:

Spoiler

He's the only one who really put himself in Little Mermaid's place (Jimin came close, but stayed pretty vague) like, what's not easy to do with the Prince without legs that's having you laugh like that and made you chose legs over voice, Yoongi?

This type of specific fanboying is not commonly something straight men do over male celebs (even if he wrote them separately). 

He really likes Jungkook, Namjoon and Taehyung's biceps.

Idk what Taehyung had in mind when he said that, but it's something somehow yhtgrfedz like.... ??? what?

Those are all from 2019/2021.

He doesn't really post on social media and interviews have been very music-oriented, less about partner types and stuff -as they should- in the last few years, so I guess that's why there are less instances. They also have way more attention on them since 2017 and even more since 2019, so maybe he's cautious now.

 

 

The Little Mermaid moment is seriously gold! Indeed what can be inconvenient about not having legs while you are with a prince?) I mean, of course, it can be just smth like 'walking around' but I am pretty sure if that's what was on his mind he'd say it straightforwardly then. What did Jimin say? Do you have a video?

4 hours ago, starryjm said:

Just in case no one has seen this video from 2013 lol. I'm not surprised tbh. i've heard that even in hs, jimin was really popular among other guys. 

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The way he giggled afterwards haunts me in my dreams. 

 

Honestly speaking I don't think it means much cause half of guys are pointing at Joon. If anything then it tells something about both Joon and Jimin. And thus we got 3 members popular with dudes: Joon, Jimin judging from this video and Jin who got flowers from fellow classmates while attending all-boy school)

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9 hours ago, Josaline said:

What I feel is that, as Hoseok says in the lyrics of the song, one has to educate oneself about certain things, starting with oneself. He already mentioned in his MMA speech that he learned that there are many different types of love. My theory about him is that there may be one or more LGBT people in the group and Hoseok first had a hard time understanding and accepting these person(s) and then, as time passed, he began to understand them as he got to know the world more. This seems to explain why his relationship with Taehyung deteriorated so much for a period of time, he remained cold towards him for almost two years, and then they became close again. So much so that he didn't even want Tae to touch him for a while, and he even once pushed his hand away. I still remember the sadness on Tae's face.

Tbh it doesn't really make sense cause timing doesn't match: his realization that there are different types of love happened much later (year of MMA speech) than deterioration of relationship with Tae (around INU) which happened according to your theory due to Tae opening up as lgbt. Let me remind you that even if on public there was distance, in private Hoseok was still supporting Tae, for example, I remember how Tae said that Hobi wrote letter to him. Personally I still think deterioration happened cause Hoseok doesn't like when ship becomes too real and fans go super crazy (vhopers back then for real were as crazy as taekookers just in smaller size due to smaller size of fandom), cause literally same thing happened to Sope (and in less extend to Jihope). Tae just handled it worse (publicly) than other two due to his personality (he kinda wants to get what he wants no matter what) and due to him worshiping Hoseok like god (I really have a feeling that Tae had some crash on Hobi). So my theory is that mayhaps, for example, if Hoseok decided to end their ship, but Tae still wanted to clinge on Hoseok despite Hobi's decision and didn't want to tone down everything no matter how Hoseok was against it then Hoseok just became harsher and started completely ignoring Tae and even pushing him away (yeah, I also still remember those moments).

I do agree with your theory on a song tho, it's indeed about educating yourself that everyone is equal and have same rights. I just don't think it's about lgbt or better to say definitely not only about it if inclusive, Hoseok's lyrics is very straightforward: he talks about genders (SK has huge problems with respecting women), nationalities (as asian artists Bangtan experienced not really equal treatment in US industry, for example), age (be it problems of power abuse from seniors or respect to seniors). It's good that a song is a comfort zone for lgbt people and it's good that he is an ally, but it's about equality in overall in every aspect.

Also not regarding your post, but just want to say that Jack In The Box is not a metaphor of being in a closet. Read Rolling Stones interview with Hoseok or other his interviews and vlives, read his lyrics properly and analyze MVs to understand him. Hoseok combined Pandora box + hope (as how j-hope name was born) + clown/jester (as his "role" in a group) + the concept of that toy when smth unexpected happens (complete change of his direction in music and concept from what ppl expected and got used to especially from "BTS j-hope" and not j-hope as Hope World creator). It's about him suppressing and hiding a lot of thoughts, opinions, feelings and sides of himself, it's about him wanting more but on his own terms, he wants to do his music and art the way he wants to and not under concept company and people box him in, it's about his path which burned him down (it, btw, very correlate to what they said on Festa about being very done and lost in their creativity). Jack In The Box is very deep and complex album about him as artist and about his multilayered personality.

Honestly speaking, after that party I become even more convinced that Hoseok is into women. He still can be bi tho.