Which male idols do you think are gay?

[Josaline]

27 minutes ago, Chika Chika said:

First of all, what is wrong with talking about the two actors chemistry? They have gone on a secret vacation to Jeju and if they wanted to be shipped hard then they would say it in every interview. That 'look we went on a vacation together' and this was before Semantic error. They went for a concert together and Jaechan later wore Soeham's shirt. They were seen by fans and that's how we found out, they never said it themselves. They could've made a huge fuss out of it, just to make it look how close they are. All of this happened before Semantic error. This was brought up in the thread. If this would be two famous kpop idols doing it then it would be a huge matter of speculation in the thread. Like once Jungkook, in a concert, in front of thousands of people got close to Jimin's ear and people here speculated about it so much, but I don't even bother cause they felt it was something.

Why do you feel the need to be questioning people 'why are you talking about them here?' Like, let people talk about things they find sus or interesting. Didn't people here talk about so many kpop idol's chemistry? Even the topic of how some kpop idols can or might be dating their own group members came up several times. People gave proper logical explanations as to how they work and spend a lot of time together so catching feelings or showing of affection might be prominent and I agree with them. Chemistry in between kpop idols from different groups also have been talked about. Soobin with another kpop idol who people were suspecting he was dating at that time. The closeness inbetween Soobin and HueningKai too was discussed here. SoobinxYeonjun, MinhoxJisung, HyunjinxFelix, Jonghyunxkey, SunooxSunghoon, Johnnyxmark,  Taeyongxeveryone. So why can't we talk about Jaechan and Soeham? And look at my previous posts I did mention Soeham and one of his other member being sus. 

Like right now BogumxJongi or BogumxTae [who acted together] and several seventeen members, One member of Ateez having a crush on another member in their early days. Bogum Tae acted together once that too not in a bl and people shipped them, are still doing but I don't mind them talking about it. I only imagine if Tae and Bogum would act in a bl and then go to Jeju and hang out then this thread would be so sure he is gay and in a relationship with Bogum.

 

You obviously can't understand my point of view, so I won't argue with you. I've said what I wanted to say, it's none of my business from now on.

But I have no idea what you're saying in this other paragraph. Bogum and Tae haven't acted in a drama together and people also don't ship them because they act together.

[Josaline]

36 minutes ago, Chika Chika said:

You can't understand my point of view either and there is nothing to be understanding here. Either you take part in the discussion or scroll. Don't police people on what and who they should talk about and what discussions are for this thread and what are not. 

I wasn't arguing with you anyway, it was you first who questioned why we are talking about Soeham and Jaechan and kept replying to my posts overlooking all the other credible info everyone brought in here about him. When several others told you that this forum is an okay place to be discussing them you still went on with it. Like it's your business to be seeing who talks about whom. I didn't reply to your posts at first thinking it's okay.

 When I was mainly talking about him being sus because he said so many things on so many occasions but you decided to discredit all of that only to nag on that one point of we are shipping and it's his job. Because obviously everything else he is saying himself is nothing and should not be considered credible. 

mate, I only replied to you twice, so don't act like I quoted every single one of your messages and caused you trouble. If you had bothered to answer the question I asked you from the very beginning, this topic wouldn't have gotten this far anyway..

[Josaline]

15 hours ago, lgbtxt said:

it's very telling when the first comparison to gay people that u can come up with is literal murderers NGL please slow down girl

What? That is not what I meant and you know that. Stop doing such nonsense things and acting like I said things I didn't actually say.

14 hours ago, Taecoholic said:

Jokes aside, there are also rumors that Bogum's cult gave him therapy on homosexuality before enlisting in the military.

oh wow... If this is true, I feel really sorry for him. Please don't stop writing about Bogum. The theories/rumors about him are more interesting than many of the things said here.

[Josaline]

9 hours ago, Chika Chika said:

You quoted me thrice and all three times you came in very condescending approach. 

If I had bothered to answer, this wouldn't have gotten this far anyway?

What do you mean? Don't act like you absolutely needed a reply from me to understand that Soeham and Jaechan can be discussed here. I remember, when you quoted me and questioned it the first time itself, at least 5 to 6 people here came forward and told you that it's okay for them to be discussed here but you still went on to quote me twice again and also quoted another person saying 'why is it wrong that I am questioning it' because you're not taking part in the discussion (you said why are we discussing them here, which made it look like we are unwelcome to talk about it here)  you're making us look like we are trying to forcefully prove him to be gay.

When so many people already told you then I didn't see the need to tell you the same for the seventh time over. 

You're acting like I didn't reply to you and that's why this escalated this far. It escalated this far because you kept quoting me and questioning and discrediting our discussions. If you looked at his sus moments and said 'I don't find any of this sus' that too would be fine. 

You kept on hampering on that one thing and turned a blind eye to every other discussion we had about him when he himself is saying things and you're not wanting to look at it which is very disrespectful and dismissive.

You sent 24 messages from my first message to the one I said you could quote me, I only quoted you 3 (the last one was just a gif quote, not even a message) times. So stop your fairy tale named 'youre constantly quoting me'

[Josaline]

4 hours ago, Chika Chika said:

So what if I sent 24 messages? What are you trying to prove? Where are you trying to get at with this now? You're trying to say that I sent 24 messages and you only quoted me in three? That is so weird cause the first time you quoted me itself a lot of people came forward and spoke to you about it? Why are you not addressing those other messages people sent to you? Why did you still choose to dismiss us even after that?

I never quoted you in any of my semantic error discussion messages. I wasn't even talking to you in any of my posts. I started replying to you when you exclusively came forward and told me to do so and also, I was talking to everyone else who were replying to me. Why are you getting bent out of shape when I am talking and replying to others? You're acting like I quoted you in all of my 24 messages when the only thing I was doing is IGNORING you until you kept dismissing our opinions and discrediting them. 

When you quoted me the first time, questioning us, everyone else came forward and said this thread is an okay place to talk about it and THAT is when you should've just stopped, but you clearly didn't. 

I never said I had a problem with you quoting me. It was you who brought up the questing thing in the first place. Several others do on a daily basis. I have a problem with you quoting me only to hinder and police discussions and act like you have some exclusive right to make decisions on what should and should not be discussed here.

The fact that you asked me and several others 'Why are they being discussed here' and SO MANY explained and you still thought it's okay to do it twice again--- The only thing you came up with is 'If you would've replied to me the first time it wouldn't have come this far' which is plain dumb and sounds like a poorly crafted excuse because didn't so many already clarify with you the very first time itself? Did you not see all their messages? Did you just choose to ignore all of them? 

You're making me repeat things and choosing to ignore valid points I am making. I am pretty sure others are as tired as I am cause you're not willing to accept that You're purposely skirting around the real reason we are upset. You're not willing to accept that you did police us and tried to put an end to a discussion that clearly everyone else didn't have any problem with. The fact that you tried to shut our discussion down only because YOU felt, is where we are upset and you kept doing it even when people explained it it the nicest way possible at the time. You dismissed our opinions making us feel unwelcome here to be speculating. You overlooked all the others telling you it is okay for Soeham and Jaechan to be discussed here. You overlooked all the other credible info we brought.

You're trying too hard to miss the point. 

All you talk about is 

'Quoting this and Quoting that'  

'I quoted you only thrice and you sent 24 messages' and that is NOT where the problem lies. You questioning people and acting entitled, asking why are we discussing it here is where the problem is and you're not willing to address it. I know you will reply with something else and honestly it just feels like you're making excuses only to act like you're on the right. 

I said it before as well, If you would take part in the discussion and say 'I don't find Soeham or Jaechan sus like the way you'll do' that too is fine cause everyone does not have to see things the way I see them but out rightly coming at us and saying 'why are we discussing them and their chemistry/friendship here' and 'why we are talking about them on this thread', time and again saying 'he is doing his job/fanservice' especially when he said so many valid things is plain disrespectful.

I hope you stop quoting and replying to me now cause just some posts ago you yourself said that 'It's not going to be my business anymore' I also request you to not police and not shut down discussions that others are really interested and taking part in. 

I also want to tell you and everyone, this is the reason I was ignoring to quote you cause I knew it would only spiral to this, only thing I didn't know is how purposefully clueless and ignorant you're trying to be with the things you yourself said and did.

 

Look, it looks like you have some problems. This is my last message to you. At first I just asked you a few questions, you didn't answer me, a few others gave their own point of view. I did not answer any of you, I expected an answer from you, but it did not come. Then I replied to someone else who quoted me. I didn't interrupt your talks, I didn't say anything to you after my first message. Then a few pages went by, and when you and a few of your friends started to mention me implicitly, I wrote to you once again, telling you that you could quote me. Thats it. Anyone can see them by looking back a few pages. I have nothing against Semantic Error, in fact I was the first to bring news about this show and others to this thread. I wanted to bring this up because I felt that the lead actors were fetishized. Of course, the individual evidence about the actors applies to this thread. But when acting like a shipper, it is not possible to take this things seriously. Accept it or not, that's the case for me. 

[Josaline]

lmao I didn't expect him to give answers like this. Homebois out here single handedly shattering the ‘jk is an innocent virgin boy scared of talking to girls’

Comments lol

 

[Josaline]

Meanwhile Taehyung

 

[Josaline]

On 3/18/2022 at 7:40 AM, OptimusPremier said:

Jimin and Sungwoon getting jikookers pressed enough to come out of the dark, their power

also this is hilarious, after some said that Jimin's outing with that Saeon guy was "more sus" than his friendship with Sungwoon when he's just another one of the long list of Sungwoon's friends who became Jimin's as well:

 

 

[Josaline]

 

[Josaline]

Taehyung is talking about " Stigma " his recent Weverse article,

 

V also discussed the theme of his first solo song, “Stigma,” for which he participated in writing the lyrics and the chorus. “I wanted to portray someone young, still growing up, crying out in anguish—that feeling of wanting to thrash about and tell the world you’re tired and fed up,” he said, describing the kind of emotional growing pains that are sharply illustrated in the song as “pieces of glass forever shattered.”  V also said that “the young person in ‘Stigma’ passed through ‘Singularity’ and ‘Inner Child’ and grew up.” In the end, V’s sense of longing is a way of looking at the pain and at specific moments that come with growing up. “A lot of the songs I release were written with youth in mind,” he said. “I thought it’d be nice if these songs I’m making now could bring comfort to my younger self.”

[Josaline]

^ Korean men really like to admire the bodies of more built and muscular men. BTS members react in the same way not only to others, but also to JK and RM, who are the most muscular in the group, expressing admiration for their bodies and constantly touching their muscles. Indeed, I think culture has an effect on these reactions.

[Josaline]

 

[Josaline]

Tae really went to Gaga on his own without even take a translator with him.

 

And Holland posted. He said "hyung i love you.."

 

[Josaline]

 

[Josaline]

Taehyung, Jungkook, Hobi and Bens Platt with his boyfriend in one frame^^

 

 

[Josaline]

On 4/9/2022 at 4:59 PM, SingulariV said:

Taehyung gave a flower in his hand to a woman holding a lesbian flag:

Could be just a cute fan interaction cause the lesbian flag is a lil niche. But he might have studied up / BTS might be aware that the flags stand for  alternate sexual dentities after so many concerts abroad.  

 

[Josaline]

Interesting! I knew that Kame was open-minded on this subject, but for the first time, he stated that he was open to BL projects as well. He also wrote a song called 1582, about the love between the famous samurai Nobunaga and his man maid, Ranmaru.

[Josaline]

 

 

 

[Josaline]

Cute~ Hobi completing the half hand heart with a fanboy during the cart show in the concert.^^

 

[Josaline]

Aww this is cute ♥ 

 

[Josaline]

7 hours ago, OptimusPremier said:

A dance teacher also posted pics of the two of them (+ W1 Jinyoung) but deleted them quickly and it came at a time where Jimin stopped mentioning the padding squad, stopped posting on social media altogether, and Sungwoon's statement seriously triggered Jimin solo stans at the time, who felt like Jimin was unfairly restricted compared to other members (not saying it was the case but it shows how out-of-the-ordinary this "restriction" was).

Well, food for thoughts (it's a bit much in a short period to be all coincidental, but there could be many different explanations). Sungwoon mentioning military in this context was kind of strange though. And I wonder what changed that it's now possible.

I think the reason why Sungwoon says that is because members of popular groups usually start their solo practice after enlistment. He probably thought that Jimin's solo work would also start after the military. But now the group is likely to be exempted from military service and it looks like they've started to put a little more emphasis on their solo work, especially in the last year, including their solo Insta accounts.

Edited April 19, 2022 by Josaline

[Josaline]

4 hours ago, OptimusPremier said:

 

I have no particular opinion about them as of yet, I'm just watching because they are extremely close (especially as Sungwoon's closest friends somehow all become Jimin's closest friends) and because I think that Jimin might not be straight (I used to follow Sungwoon but I didn't have a strong opinion on him). And it changes from the usual BTS topics ^^ 

It's all up to interpretation of course, but I do find interesting that fans are quicker to question an eventual relationship between Tae and Bogum (for much less) or even between Yoongi and Yijeong, and I kinda feel like it's because Sungwoon is 8cm smaller than Jimin, cute rather than handsome, and it's not the kind of man that fans want to ship Jimin with (I'm talking about the fandom in general, not about people who put thoughts into it before forming an opinion).

 

BTS members released collabs and solo projects regularly since 2016, Jimin included (BTS songs, collab dances, but also covers or Promise for examples) so I don't see why Sungwoon would have thought that Jimin didn't do solo work in 2019? He knew about Jimin's song Promise:

 

"Promise" doesn't even count as a solo project. To me no song they release on Soundcloud counts as a proper solo project. In addition, his collaborations within the group and with the group members are not considered solo works. We all know that Big Hit hardly supported BTS members' solo work until last year and promoted with a group focus. Even now, it can't be said that they are promoting solo work with posting just one tweet. instead of making solo debuts like other idols do, they keep releasing mixtapes that they can't even make money on. Of course, this could be their own choice, after all, it means less pressure, but it doesn't make sense to me.

[Josaline]

 

[Josaline]

19 minutes ago, Tixy said:

It could be edited, but certainly not from the pics with Jhope that people keep using as evidence. [proof]

Different clothing, multiple angles, it seems unedited to me, so it's more plausible that it's not one/either of them in that pic to begin with to me. 

People were talking today how she broke up with GD so it wouldn't be strange though. 

If you look at the car in both pictures, you'll notice that despite being taken from different angles, Taehyung is still sitting at the same angle and that the sticker on the car (something that seems to happen on rental cars) appears in different places in the two pictures. Also the timing doesn't fit, Jennie's hair was already blonde/ginger when Taehyung went to Jeju.

Edited May 22, 2022 by Josaline

[Josaline]

14 minutes ago, Tixy said:

The supposed sticker appears to just be a watermark from the poster, and people are saying that Jennie has dark hair in her pics from Jeju on insta (I am not gonna bother with verifying that one though, so feel free to prove me wrong). 

Having flashback of a guy training a seal discourse I'm telling y'all. 

I don't follow her, but her hair color is yellow/ginger in her pictures after April 2 on her insta account.

https://www.instagram.com/jennierubyjane/

Taehyung posted this picture from Jeju on May 9.