Which male idols do you think are gay?

[Josaline]

10 hours ago, Baby_Lion said:

I remember there was a time Holland posted a pic with a Chanel bag similar to Tae’s and then he tweed “Yesss this is a couple bag with V hyung“ but sadly end up deleted the pic because of the annoying homophobers harassed him. 

I remember this. From the way he spoke, I got the impression that he had met Taehyung and that they were close enough to call him that. It's really sad that he had to delete his message.  

[Josaline]

14 hours ago, Dont mind me said:

Aah okay, my apologies it just came across sarcastic. But yeah we need a shocked one indeed. 

That wasn't my intention but I was really sad and shocked by what happened to him. I hope there are people to support him and his family.

[Josaline]

16 minutes ago, lgbtxt said:

i believe holland is just taehyung biased 

Maybe  I'm not suprised if he is. Judging by the negs I get, some fans even can't stand the fact that Tae and Holland might even know each other lol

 

 

[Josaline]

13 minutes ago, lgbtxt said:

i didn't neg you but i think it's less that fans don't like the idea and more that it's a bit unbelievable. they don't exactly run in the same circles .. 

I don't think it's possible for us to be sure if they are really the same circle of friends or not. I never thought Park Hyo Shin and Taehyung would be friends either, but unexpected things can happen. I guess I like to hope.^^

 

[Josaline]

24 minutes ago, lgbtxt said:

Hyoshin and Taehyung are both very famous within the music industry, Holland is next to unknown. Top gay idols may know of Holland, but i'd be surprised if they know him personally or even remember his name. It is technically possible!! But in the same way that Taehyung being friends with a member of, say, DKB (no offense, first nugu i thought of ) is technically possible. But Holland isn't on the music shows, he's not at award shows, he's probably not going to top-rung parties & events. For him to meet and befriend a member of the biggest boy group in Korea is just unlikely. That's all! Believe in whatever fantasy you'd like tho

Well, I hope as Holland said, there are people in the background who reach out to support and befriend him. But whether they're friends or not, it's still sad that Holland had to delete his message because of the backlash from the fans.  

[Josaline]

1 hour ago, peaches said:

 

I personally don’t understand why people would still want to discuss this when it was clearly done with malignant intent. They harassed the girl and her family and dug up private information to the point she had to close her business accounts. They tried to tarnish her image and created such disgusting rumors about taehyung that he himself stepped in and lashed out at antis. Hybe too had to step in immediately since it as getting out of hand in Korea. Even after this if people still want to bring up this discussion then don’t blame us when we judge you.

There are lot of ridiculous rumors created by antis regarding so called favors and favoritism within Hybe itself. I wonder if they find it just as funny and interesting to want to discuss it.

 

There is no need to talk further on this subject. We have expressed ourselves enough. Anyone who can with little bit logic will realize how taboo the subject of sponsorship is and that one would not bring the that person so close to their family lol Just block and continue.^^

[Josaline]

2 hours ago, Kpop_fan178 said:

Some of you in here need to chill FR.

Anyways, Shinee Minho has the same phone background with the icon James Dean. Key said in the recent episode of I live alone that he had this James Dean background for years. And Minho replied that James Dean is cool.

This was in 2018:

https://twitter.com/global_shinee/status/1067379611263090690

It doesn't embed:(

 

Wow It's been a while since something about Minho came here.  

[Josaline]

5 hours ago, starryjm said:

Just in case no one has seen this video from 2013 lol. I'm not surprised tbh. i've heard that even in hs, jimin was really popular among other guys. 

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The way he giggled afterwards haunts me in my dreams. 

 

Interesting but they actually pointig RM lol

 

[Josaline]

10 hours ago, starryjm said:

The vid is cropped, but the translation of the words on the screen is jimin got all the votes. And afterwards everyone congratulates him. I think it's safe to say in the end they all voted for jimin.  

There is clearly a misunderstanding, because I think the program they participated in is a program that is spoken in another language and translated to them. Members make choices by thinking that the question is directed to them. And clearly Hoseok, Suga, and Jin instantly point to RM, Tae picks Jimin while JK points to neither. Then they look behind the camera and suddenly head towards Jimin. I think the members' choices are pretty clear.

[Josaline]

Just now, starryjm said:

Are you insinuating that the staff told them to pick jimin? that's an alex jones level kinda conspiracy. i don't think it's that deep. jimin was supposed to portray a manly man too, so i don't understand why they would choose jimin.

I mean, because they didn't understand the question well, they chose the person they thought was popular with men from their perspective. Then, when the warning came from behind the camera, they turned to Jimin. As you can see, Jimin had already noticed the misunderstanding and started laughing.

[Josaline]

33 minutes ago, starryjm said:

I honestly don't understand why you think the staff were trying to encouraging the members into calling jimin popular with men? Taehyung immediately pointed at jimin (in my opinion that information is worth a lot since vmin were the closest in the group at that time) The rest of the members were unsure. In the end they congratulated jimin, so they probably agreed he was the most popular among men in the end. 

It is clear that they do not understand the full content of the question. The video clearly shows the members' choices and the confusion. I honestly don't understand why you're so insistent.

[Josaline]

10 hours ago, starryjm said:

All of them except for tae (bc he immediately pointed to jm, he clearly knew what the interviewer was saying), but how does that disprove them choosing jm at the end? 

"I honestly don't understand why you're so insistent."

You're the one that insisting that the members were forced into picking jm ffs. If you think Jimin is straight, fine, but there's nothing you can do to disprove the fact that the members all congratulated jimin for being the most popular with men. You remind me of taekookers saying tae was sad when the members said jk was the most popular with women.

lol what are you talking about? I never said they forced to choose Jimin. I think you only see what you want to see. Everything is clear in the video. The members can't understand the question clearly because it's a translated to them, half of the members choose RM, only Tae choose Jimin and then they all choose Jimin when they get a warning from behind the camera. Period.

[Josaline]

1 hour ago, starryjm said:

What warning? You still haven't specified it.

Warning that they misunderstood the translation. Otherwise, why would the members who previously chose RM change their minds and choose Jimin after looking behind the camera?

[Josaline]

17 hours ago, starryjm said:

how did they misunderstand it? 

 

they didn't? only nj looked at the camera and hoseok already started congratulating jm, even though he never looked at the camera.

They did. Moreover, the video has no beginning and ending, the situation is not clear even for us viewers. We don't know if the people there are asking them to predict the result of a certain poll or if they are asking them to say the popular person they personally think of. But there seems to be a misunderstanding, it's clear to me. At least we agreed to disagreed.

[Josaline]

29 minutes ago, oh my dora said:

semantic error was trending on theqoo

https://theqoo.net/index.php?mid=hot&page=2&document_srl=2361064505

it can be translated on desktop right click translate to english page. 46k people viewed it

generally a positive response so hopefully this is a good sign

The trailer caught my attention. I'm waiting for the episodes to end to watch. By the way, I read the manga and I really liked it. I think this series will be a breaking point for both actors.

[Josaline]

2 hours ago, oh my dora said:

oops accidental double post, so i'll just fill this with something. on the topic of dramas, apparently killing stalking will be made into a drama adaptation

my god please no...

[Josaline]

I see nothing sus. It's not uncommon for BL actors to say things like this during their promotions, it's kind of like fanservice.

[Josaline]

8 hours ago, Chika Chika said:

So, I think Soeham and Jaechan's friendship is really sweet.

Soeham speaks about how he didn't want to take up the role and felt like he should just retire. He talks a lot about Jaechan literally reducing his sleeping hours just to help him out. Jaechan could see that Soeham had no confidence in himself and keep complimenting him about how he really looks like Jaeyoung and that he is doing great.

Soeham says that it was decided that the show would end with a hug but it was Jaechan who actually came up with the kiss scene idea. Jaechan also, around new year's told Soeham that he should have a meal with his family and Soeham was like 'Yeah, okay' then Jaechan was like 'No, let's go today' and took Soeham home and had dinner over at his place. 

Soeham also says that they met each other when both were having a very difficult time in their life and that both found comfort with each other.

The interview where he speaks about Jaechan is very long so I'll just paste it here. He said so much more about Jaechan and his family that I might've missed.

So, if you think they're just friends and their friendship is so cute and if you know that most of what they say is fanservice, why are you posting things about them in the gay thread? Just because you think the guy's chemistry is so good, is sharing it in here different from what the shippers do? And is it different from fetishizing?

 

[Josaline]

2 hours ago, cjbenny said:

I won't claim to know a lot of Seoham and Jaechan but just speaking from my perspective, I welcome hearing about the behind the scenes stuff on this show. This thread can often devolve into pointless arguments involving some of the most inane topics that go on for pages. Hearing from a young Korean male idol speaking about his role in a BL show in such an open-minded (and in my personal opinion, fairly candid) way is valid enough to have a place in this thread. I'd personally rather hear from the cast of a BL show talking about their experiences in making the show than someone going on and on about how "Idol X is gay because of some arbitrarily obscure thing". But others might feel the opposite, and that's okay because I think both have a place in this thread. I don't know how others might feel, but none of these posts felt like shipping to me. They felt like stories about two (whether straight or not) friends who are comfortable enough to star in a BL show, discussing their friendship in a way that I find sweet and wholesome. 

Anyways, I also agree with the others that Semantic Error has some of the best chemistry I've seen in a Korean BL show and highly recommend others watch it if they have the chance. 

Because I realized that the same people who made endless theories about the actors of the famous Chinese BL series The Untamed are now doing it for the actors of Semantic Error. I don't know, but it started to turn into not being able to distinguish between fantasy and reality, believing that they were together in real life because they fetishized the actors and who only took part in the project. Maybe I'm the only one bothered by this, but I wanted to point it out.

[Josaline]

11 hours ago, Chika Chika said:

I think this is a very interesting piece of information you bring up. Thankyou for posting here.

He is supporting the community and talking about it on a public platform something that takes guts to do.

Trust me, cause I come from a homophobic country where actors are gay but will marry women and have children, they are powerful, influential and have lots of money but one thing they are scared to talk about is that they are gay and in love with a man. [Iam not blaming them cause they too are scared of losing their name and fame] I mean, I am bisexual and  cannot tell my mom about it, leave alone talk about it on a public platform. A dude in my country literally wore a fanny pack and he was bullied so bad for looking feminine and he too is a rich kid. So when rich and big people who have so much power cannot talk about it but someone who is so young and does not have a lot of power speaks up for such causes it makes me respect them.

Semantic error did great is South Korea meaning that there are people who look at the community in a positive light.

It is standing among the top 3 among all the other big budgeted popular dramas that have big names and straight couples. 

I am so happy for Jaechan and Soeham.

I don't know about the others but I am so happy you're discussing this here.

I see no problem in your talking about the success of Semantic Error and its impact in South Korea. But your focus is actually just the lead actors and your belief that there really is something between the two, which isn't the first time you've done it. You don't seem to be able to see the line between fantasy and reality. This is where I see the problem. It's no surprise to me that such unknown actors, when involved in a successful project, try to say the best they can about this project and the other actors and join the fanservice. I think what you do is not different from what the shippers do. Don't they also come up with a lot of theories based on what the two idols say about each other?  Don't they also believe that the two idols are actually dating based on their fanservice moments? We have seen a ton of theories you have made about the actors of The Untamed before. Now you do the same for Semantic Error actors. The first thing you say is that the chemistry between the two is amazing. I mean... Can you blame us for being cautious and asking questions?

[Josaline]

18 hours ago, sooa_t said:

reading some posts from pages ago (from last year) and there was a interesting discussion about park bogum/song joong ki/taehyung relationship, I wonder if bogum and joong ki are back as friends since their friendship reportedly ended when the song-song couple got married (and he was seen crying a lot in the wedding) and bogum and taehyung got closer after that but suddenly they haven't been spotted together again (I'm not an army so I don't know if they are still friends too)

Bogum has just returned from the military. We'll see if they can be seen together after that.

15 hours ago, Chika Chika said:

My oppa kisses men but I swear he straight.

omg.. Your oppa kissed another man because he was DOING HIS JOB. 

[Josaline]

15 hours ago, lgbtxt said:

helpp you could say this about literally anything any idol does, queerbait fanservice is baked into the industry. but go off  

Yeah and aren't we always looks down at that moments? So? Is it wrong for me to point this out? This user is trying to get somewhere based on the man kissing another man as a part of his role. So, should we produce theories that those who play the role of psychopathic killers can also be murderers? lol

[Josaline]

9 hours ago, starry_night said:

Does anyone else think this is a bit sus  

 

How can they be sure it's Jimin? The voice could be belongs to a woman, or it could even be a sound he made when he was trying to get out of bed. 

[Josaline]

8 hours ago, OptimusPremier said:

 

they didn't fall into radio silence though? not abruptly anyway. they kept seeing each other from time to time, just less and less and Taehyung started mentioning the Wooga squad more and more instead of him.

 

Jungkook "jealous" or "hating Bogum" is a narrative that Taekook shippers successfully instilled in the fandom (creating the fuss about Bogum and Taehyung being a thing as a result). The whole narrative stands on a short clip taken out of context from the concert visit video, a slow down video of Jungkook "rolling his eyes" (he's not though) when Tae mentioned Bogum in one video and because JK asked Tae to choose between him and Bogum, at a time when Tae was growing a bit distant with the group (Jimin did the same kind of thing about the Hwarang hyungs). Could just be that JK misses his friend or they were pushing their friendship for promo (given that it was during a comeback show, when company used to push Taekook, it's not far-fetched).

Jungkook wasn't defiant at all when Bogum visited backstage during that BTS concert (he was pretty welcoming) and they were friendly during the Coca cola ad (seen teaching him the airplane pt 2 choreo in the background of a video). And all the other times Tae mentioned Bogum, JK didn't show any particular reaction or greeted Bogum too.

 

I watched a close-up video of that moment. I actually think that Jungkook is just trying to put up with Bogum just because he's friends with Tae. Like even in the empty airport venue he finds Bogum, who is talking to Tae bump into lol I agree with Bushi on the Bogum. I think JK found something he didn't like about the guy and tried to put up with him just for the sake of his friend. But Jungkook has never been good at hiding his feelings lol

 

[Josaline]

2 hours ago, Chika Chika said:

I literally said 

'My oppa kisses men but he is straight' and 'Did you look at the way Jungkook looked at jimin. Defo gay' as a joke. We [me and many others] spoke about so many other times he said so many sus things but still got asked 'why are you talking about him?'

Like so many other people felt he is sus too and we are still with 'He is playing a role.'

He said most of the things before Semantic error even happened. So what now? He was playing a role and promoting semantic error even before Semantic Error series came into existence? 

My reasoning of Jaechan being sus is mainly because he was speaking about his preferences on a vlive and that was when he was himself and not playing a role on a movie set, as some people here are trying to dismiss it. I also posted about his interview where he said that that same sex marriages and relationships should be normalized. Even then people were asking us why we were talking about him and Soeham when he said it in most clear possible way that he supports the community.

I've said it so many times now, I was trying to get somewhere based on the things he said not because of the role he is playing in semantic error.

I also want to tell you that I and everyone else discussing Jaechan never said Jaechan is gay because he kissed a guy in a bl series but because he said so many supportive things. We never even once brought up the kiss scenes but only mentioned the things he is saying seemed very interesting. The several pages of discussion involving both actors we never once spoke about the kiss and he is probably gay cause they kissed. 

WE KNOW THAT MOST BL ACTORS ARE NOT EVEN GAY. We even mentioned that previously in our discussion. 

The 'My oppa kisses guys but he is straight' was said generally not at all talking about Jaechan. I would use his name directly if I were talking about him. 

I want to clarify on my side that I never said I think Jaechan is a part of the community because he kissed a guy for a bl, I don't even know where this formed because all the previous pages over the week everyone here were only basing our opinions on the things he is saying as Jaechan [the real person] and not Sangwoo [his Semantic error character] and yet people are dismissing it saying he is doing his job and he is doing promo for the show. 

Even before I posted the 'My oppa kisses dudes but he is probably straight' thing, people were very hostile towards us discussing about them.

So many things posted about Jaechan and Soeham and this is the one thing you'll latch on to, just to prove we are going over board with them.

What are people here? The gay police, to have that kind of entitlement to be QUESTIONING us?

You know you can quote me, right? As I said before, I am not against talking about the success of the series and its impact in South Korea. But in the beginning your approach to the subject pushed me in the wrong direction. In particular, the fact that you constantly touched on the chemisty between the two actors and started to talk about how 'special' the friendship between the two was reminded me of what you did to the cast of The Untamed before. That's it.