Which male idols do you think are gay?

[Bushi]

12 minutes ago, artificiaIIove said:

He is his bandmate and their subunit had a comeback on July last year. What are you trying to imply?

Oh, i think Sehun hangs out a lot more with Suho and Suho's friends (donghwan, jaeman, etc).

Lol, Chanyeol's been persona non grata on here for ages now. 

I think it's one of his friendship circles that causes eyebrows to raise, and perhaps he has a 'rep' as a player. How much evidence there is for that claim idk. I know there was someone alleging some tea on him a while back who seemed to sound like an angry ex? Personally I think most of it is hot air. I can't attest to his friends, or who he beds. But I think the tea spiller is just as likely to be a crazy as legit. I also think you can be friends with different groups and types of people without it affecting you as a person. 

 

 

Edited January 5, 2021 by Bushi

[you wish you knew]

33 minutes ago, Wnnabe said:

I know what you're talking about. It's true that he has a ton of rumors.

it really is. idk why people got quite defensive lol. no one said anything about his attraction to men. he might as well be attracted to women too. bisexuality exists. 

[Kpop_fan178]

One thing i hate about this thread is when people start talking about or believing rumors. Major turn off LOL. Like wtf. I think we are all adults(18+) here and we know how rumors work. I could start a rumor for example on twitter that RM is married and has kids(LOL) or post on ALLKPOP as a self-claimed "insider" and y'all(the ones who take the rumors seriously) would believe because it's either what you want to believe or because of the shock factor or who knows you are actually very gullible.

About Sehun and Chanyeoul hanging out, they were hanging out both with Chief SUKE, SEhun's boyfriend:

Here is proof:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DYOILMwWsAI1Wg3?format=jpg&name=900x900

Just look at Sehun in that picture LMAO

Edited January 5, 2021 by Kpop_fan178

[you wish you knew]

20 minutes ago, Kpop_fan178 said:

One thing i hate about this thread is when people start talking about or believing rumors. Major turn off LOL. Like wtf. I think we are all adults(18+) here and we know how rumors work. I could start a rumor for example on twitter that RM is married and has kids(LOL) or post on ALLKPOP as a self-claimed "insider" and y'all(the ones who take the rumors seriously) would believe because it's either what you want to believe or because of the shock factor or who knows you are actually very gullible.

About Sehun and Chanyeoul hanging out, they were hanging out both with Chief SUKE, SEhun's boyfriend:

Here is proof:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DYOILMwWsAI1Wg3?format=jpg&name=900x900

Just look at Sehun in that picture LMAO

okay kpop_fan178. sehun is positively, absolutely, definitely, without a doubt, 100% gay. sorry for stating an opinion.

[Leylaa]

7 hours ago, TataBoo said:

 

Seventeen- Wonwoo, Woozi, and Scoups seem attracted to men to an extent. They just radiate it. Hoshi is kind of sus since that drunk kissing scene. Mingyu is also sus and if he does like guys he will probably have extreme internalized homophobia(just my thought).

 

I also felt like that about Mingyu. I remember watching older vlives with 97 line I think and Mingyu reacting negatively about DK and Jeonghan wearing couple clothes etc. But maybe it was pure jealousy between friends idk but he doesn't act like this anymore  

Wonwoo and Woozi seem straight to me and Scoups is a bit sus especially his behaviour with Jeonghan 

 

 

[Kpop_fan178]

22 minutes ago, you wish you knew said:

okay kpop_fan178. sehun is positively, absolutely, definitely, without a doubt, 100% gay. sorry for stating an opinion.

Why are you so upset and passive-aggressive? I don't have a problem with people stating their opinions at all, even though theirs might be different from mine,  but i just don't like when some of you read a baseless rumors on twitter or allkpop and then use it as "receipt" here.  My post wasn't necessery about Sehun being gay as it was for adresing the rumor situation.

Edited January 5, 2021 by Kpop_fan178

[you wish you knew]

1 minute ago, Kpop_fan178 said:

Why are you so upset and pasive-aggresive? I don't have a problem with people stating their opinions at all, even though theirs might be difrent from mine,  but i just don't like when some of you read a baseless rumors on twitter or allkpop and then use it as "receipt" here.  My post wasn't necesserlly about Sehun being gay as it was for adresing the rumor situation.

yawn. i am not upset at all. i did not mean to come off as "passive-aggressive" either but i suggest you read your own comment before asking me this. lol. i've already said that they're all RUMORS and not 100% truth. plus i do NOT use twitter and i have never even clicked on an article on allkpop. i also did not use anything as a "receipt" or try to convince people either. but whatever.

i think that this thread went off topic because of this and maybe even made some people uncomfortable. sorry for the trouble. if anyone wants to talk about this in a non-aggressive way you can message me.

[Josaline]

11 hours ago, dumdidumdi said:

I've discussed this issue before on this thread but I'll say it again: the photo was picked carefully to cause a scandal, they could've shown him hugging any of the other people that were there (which he did do) but they chose her. So there's as much proof that he was dating anyone else in that room as there is that he was dating her. I can only imagine the backlash (as if he didn't already receive enough) he and BigHit would've gotten if they lied and it turned out that they were actually dating. It's not the smartest situation to lie about. If they were dating, a better response would've been something like TWICE Chaeyoung and, coincidentally, her tattoo artist where they could just state they have no comment, especially given that he was on a break that time, they could just say "we cannot publicly reveal what an artist did or did not do while on a personal break". The backlash about them dating and BigHit lying about it would be far greater than them just dating. And can we leave the "JK is afraid of women " jokes in 2014 where they originated. He doesn't act like he's afraid of women, he's not a kid that was very momentarily uncomfortable and then totally fine right after during a music video shoot, he's a 23 year old man who obviously at least hangs out with women in a friendly scenario if nothing else.

 

BigHit said he hugged everybody in there, and frankly, if they really wanted to prove Jungkook's "innocence," they would have released pieces of these scenes but they didn't. So, I don't believe Jungkook hugged everyone in there. It sounds like excuse to me, and I haven't buy BigHit's " just friends " statement either. They also said that they were suing, but there has been no improvement in this regard, even though all this time has passed. I think it's very naive to think that Big Hit would accept it if they were actually dating. Jungkook is the most popular member and main vocalist of the only world-famous band they have. Of course they will deny it lol

About Yoongi's japanese girlfriend pure bullshit lol Just someone pretending to date a BTS member. But this girl is seriously crazy because she kept doing this for years, so many people believed it.

https://rei-explained.tumblr.com/post/186872702498/bts-sugas-supposed-girlfriend-2014-2016

 

[Anii]

Analysis of ROOKIES who pinged me since they are barely being talked about here:

Spoiler

DISCLAIMER: I'm not really good at articulating myself and writing down my thoughts clearly, so please excuse any shortcomings on my part. If you find that I could've worded my sentences better, please do tell me. If you disagree with me, I'd really appreciate it if you'd initiate a healthy discussion instead of downvoting or 'clownvoting' me. I also do not stan the groups/members below, so my analysis/speculation is based on surface-level knowledge and quick web searches. I hope you find this interesting.

TOO

Woonggi

Spoiler

• He's very feminine and flamboyant. I know that stereotypes can be harmful and that not all LGBTQ+ men fit them, but some stereotypes exist for a reason.

• He has openly supported the LGBT community. He might just be a strong ally, but the way he talks about it....it's something that, in my opinion, is close to his heart. (Read q.2 and q.3 below)

• He's just very well-informed and open-minded in general. If you have the time, please read the thread below because it's really refreshing to see.

          https://twitter.com/sungminverse/status/1261697700908556288

• When asked about his ideal type, he said he doesn't have one, which is a very common answer from idols who are speculated to be LGBT. He also added that he likes the "two-block cut," which is typically a male hairstyle.

• He is close friends with Dongpyo and Hyeongjun who are also widely speculated to be gay. It's not unheard of for rumored LGBT idols to often hang out with each other. 

Jerome

Spoiler

• Once again, he's quite feminine. I know that this may not be convincing, but I hope you get what I'm trying to say. He just pings. You can watch a compilation video of him below to understand what I'm saying:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcWkVmbFumI

• This moment:

• Like Woonggi, he's open-minded, which isn't necessarily indicative of his orientation.

https://twitter.com/canigetyouraeon/status/1322056014942793729

 

Kyungho

Spoiler

• I think many Toogethers don't consider him to be LGBT, but in my opinion, he's bi. He pings me for some reason. I think the most 'eyebrow-raising' moment would be his interactions with OnlyOneOf Junji. Even fellow member Jisu questioned if they were on a date lol.

Here's a link to the whole video where there are more interactions between the two: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLWWTTylGbo&t

• This?? I know hand-holding between two men is viewed differently in Asia, but I thought this was interesting.

 

Minsu

Spoiler

• Minsu pings. That's all I have to say about him. Unfortunately, I couldn't find any significant moments to share, so here's a video of Minsu being himself. His mannerisms are what made me form this opinion.

 

CRAVITY

Jungmo

Spoiler

• Jungmo's ideal type is reportedly someone who is "bald with a big mustache." Apparently, "he hates women," but this could just be a joke cracked by his friends. "He is gay."

• These pictures:

• Found a pic of him (I think?) making a kissing pose with another boy with a sticker blocking a significant part of the picture.
• I don't know the context, but I found this funny. It's not really serious, though.

• What's also interesting is that I found it quite diffcult to find this information about him when earlier (say, last year) I could find all this with ease. It could just be the overthinker in me and 'fans' might've just buried this, but who knows? Maybe K-fans or some higher authority made it diffcult to find all of this as there might be some truth to this?

 

Hyeongjun, Seongmin and Wonjin.

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• I'm putting these three together since I don't have many 'sus' moments (for the lack of a better term) to share.
• The reason why these three ping me is their overall vibes. Their mannerisms are what you should focus on. 
• Hyeongjun is very flamboyant.
• His friend circle (you can barely call it that lmao):

• Just Hyeongjun being himself:

• Seongmin is also very feminine and pings me like crazy.
• I read somewhere that he wore makeup to school and was very feminine in general (keep in mind that this doesn't mean much)
• It's the way he behaves that caught my attention:

• I'm really sorry for not providing any concrete evidence, but I can't pinpoint why Wonjin pings me too:

• He also seems to be really into Hyeongjun. 

 

 

Please tell me if you liked the analysis/want me to analyze anyone else. 

Edited January 5, 2021 by PurpleAnii
Grammar, formatting and more info

[lighterxx]

2 hours ago, Leylaa said:

I also felt like that about Mingyu. I remember watching older vlives with 97 line I think and Mingyu reacting negatively about DK and Jeonghan wearing couple clothes etc. But maybe it was pure jealousy between friends idk but he doesn't act like this anymore  

Wonwoo and Woozi seem straight to me and Scoups is a bit sus especially his behaviour with Jeonghan 

 

 

 

 

Mingyu only had one bad time all these years and it was at boomboom era, where he was clearly overwhelmed about everything; not solely about relationships at all. Which one are you talking about? I dont remember a 97 liner vlive with Jeonghan.

Edited January 5, 2021 by lighterxx

[shineestan]

Hoshi is SO BI have you not seen his touch stage??? also his relationship with seokmin too like back in 2015 when they did that interview and seokmin said how he would just wait for hoshi to fall asleep and watch him until he fell asleep himself.... Hoshi also PREORDERED the whole pride set from like nike last year and he's a DIE HARD Shawol. 

Taemin is also a bicon

[dumdidumdi]

2 hours ago, Josaline said:

BigHit said he hugged everybody in there, and frankly, if they really wanted to prove Jungkook's "innocence," they would have released pieces of these scenes but they didn't. So, I don't believe Jungkook hugged everyone in there. It sounds like excuse to me, and I haven't buy BigHit's " just friends " statement either. They also said that they were suing, but there has been no improvement in this regard, even though all this time has passed. I think it's very naive to think that Big Hit would accept it if they were actually dating. Jungkook is the most popular member and main vocalist of the only world-famous band they have. Of course they will deny it lol

About Yoongi's japanese girlfriend pure bullshit lol Just someone pretending to date a BTS member. But this girl is seriously crazy because she kept doing this for years, so many people believed it.

https://rei-explained.tumblr.com/post/186872702498/bts-sugas-supposed-girlfriend-2014-2016

 

It wasn't BigHit, it was an independent reporter that watched the whole CCTV footage that said that. BigHit can't just release the footage because 1) it's not even theirs to release and 2) it would breach everyone else's privacy too.

The reason why I buy that they weren't dating is because of how big of a scandal it would've been if it turned out that they denied it but it was true all along. I mean, if JK was "careless" enough to backhug his alleged girlfriend in front of 8 other people, with cameras on them, who's to say he wouldn't have do it another time that people could find after some digging. I think either they weren't dating so he didn't think much of how it would be perceived or they were hooking up for basically only during that time so they felt safe in knowing that no other information could be leaked.

Well, at least we can agree that Yoongi's Japanese girlfriend isn't real. 

[pokezuko]

1 hour ago, PurpleAnii said:

Analysis of ROOKIES who pinged me since they are barely being talked about here:

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DISCLAIMER: I'm not really good at articulating myself and writing down my thoughts clearly, so please excuse any shortcomings on my part. If you find that I could've worded my sentences better, please do tell me. If you disagree with me, I'd really appreciate it if you'd initiate a healthy discussion instead of downvoting or 'clownvoting' me. I also do not stan the groups/members below, so my analysis/speculation is based on surface-level knowledge and quick web searches. I hope you find this interesting.

TOO

Woonggi

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• He's very feminine and flamboyant. I know that stereotypes can be harmful and that not all LGBTQ+ men fit them, but some stereotypes exist for a reason.

• He has openly supported the LGBT community. He might just be a strong ally, but the way he talks about it....it's something that, in my opinion, is close to his heart. (Read q.2 and q.3 below)

• He's just very well-informed and open-minded in general. If you have the time, please read the thread below because it's really refreshing to see.

          https://twitter.com/sungminverse/status/1261697700908556288

• When asked about his ideal type, he said he doesn't have one, which is a very common answer from idols who are speculated to be LGBT. He also added that he likes the "two-block cut," which is typically a male hairstyle.

• He is close friends with Dongpyo and Hyeongjun who are also widely speculated to be gay. It's not unheard of for rumored LGBT idols to often hang out with each other. 

Jerome

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• Once again, he's quite feminine. I know that this may not be convincing, but I hope you get what I'm trying to say. He just pings. You can watch a compilation video of him below to understand what I'm saying:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcWkVmbFumI

• This moment:

• Like Woonggi, he's open-minded, which isn't necessarily indicative of his orientation.

https://twitter.com/canigetyouraeon/status/1322056014942793729

 

Kyungho

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• I think many Toogethers don't consider him to be LGBT, but in my opinion, he's bi. He pings me for some reason. I think the most 'eyebrow-raising' moment would be his interactions with OnlyOneOf Junji. Even fellow member Jisu questioned if they were on a date lol.

Here's a link to the whole video where there are more interactions between the two: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLWWTTylGbo&t

• This?? I know hand-holding between two men is viewed differently in Asia, but I thought this was interesting.

 

Minsu

  Reveal hidden contents

• Minsu pings. That's all I have to say about him. Unfortunately, I couldn't find any significant moments to share, so here's a video of Minsu being himself. His mannerisms are what made me form this opinion.

 

CRAVITY

Jungmo

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• Jungmo's ideal type is reportedly someone who is "bald with a big mustache." Apparently, "he hates women," but this could just be a joke cracked by his friends. "He is gay."

• These pictures:

• Found a pic of him (I think?) making a kissing pose with another boy with a sticker blocking a significant part of the picture.
• I don't know the context, but I found this funny. It's not really serious, though.

• What's also interesting is that I found it quite diffcult to find this information about him when earlier (say, last year) I could find all this with ease. It could just be the overthinker in me and 'fans' might've just buried this, but who knows? Maybe K-fans or some higher authority made it diffcult to find all of this as there might be some truth to this?

 

Hyeongjun, Seongmin and Wonjin.

  Reveal hidden contents

• I'm putting these three together since I don't have many 'sus' moments (for the lack of a better term) to share.
• The reason why these three ping me is their overall vibes. Their mannerisms are what you should focus on. 
• Hyeongjun is very flamboyant.
• His friend circle (you can barely call it that lmao):

• Just Hyeongjun being himself:

• Seongmin is also very feminine and pings me like crazy.
• I read somewhere that he wore makeup to school and was very feminine in general (keep in mind that this doesn't mean much)
• It's the way he behaves that caught my attention:

• I'm really sorry for not really providing any concrete evidence, but I can't pinpoint why Wonjin pings me too:

• He also seems to be really into Hyeongjun. 

 

 

 

yay some rookie talk !

TOO:

the trio of woonggi/minsu/jerome are the most freqeuntly mentioned, for obvious reasons and the arguments make sense.

woonggi just does not seem straight to me at all, and i think there was a video of him talking about pentagon's hongseok and it seemed like he was crushing on him (understandably so, hongseok was an absolute thirst trap on rtk)

Spoiler

also if anyone has any opinions on pentagon please share!!

minsu doesn't have as many receipts as the other 2, but he just pings and i cannot picture him with a girl at all.

and jerome is an absolute cutie ! him correcting the fan about the pronouns at least proves he's open minded. i think he may also have had a crush on jyou.

also them being the closest trio in TOO (my perspective) may be indicative of something. like they may find some comfort with eachother or relate ?

i personally think kyungho is straight (that whole acting thing with park minyoung where he got flustered lol) and if he is bi, then he's female leaning.

the only other possible lgbt member is jyou imo

CRAVITY- 

jungmo has a very interesting past.

i don't know if he actually came out to his friends and they outed him (which would suck) because they didn't know he'd become an idol, or if he "acted gay" in their opinion and used it as a "joke".

he also seems pretty natural with giving and receiving attention to and from guys. that video of him flirting with the white guy and not getting embarrassed whereas the other dude was literally red lmao.

there's also this:

at 14:07, the male host asks him if he's ever had a girlfriend and he seems taken aback and gets flustered. he ends up denying it and saying he's never been in a relationship.

hyeongjun seems to really like male attention imo and i think he lowkey had a crush on minkyu back in PDX

i think that seongmin could actually be on the ace/aro spectrum. he's feminine yes, but he also doesn't seem to be attracted to anyone. but he's young, so he may still be confused 

i go between bi and straight for wonjin.

some other rookies that i think are sus-

keeho from p1harmony & sunoo from enhypen 

(there are a few more, those 2 are just the 1st to come to mind)

[pokezuko]

also.... i might as well start the discussion. 

what do you think of pentagon?

they don't get talked about a lot here (understandably, they seem pretty straight as a whole) but kino is a bicon (pan?) imo.

yanan and jun's relationship seems sus too.

Edited January 5, 2021 by liberalitea

[lighterxx]

25 minutes ago, shineestan said:

Hoshi is SO BI have you not seen his touch stage??? also his relationship with seokmin too like back in 2015 when they did that interview and seokmin said how he would just wait for hoshi to fall asleep and watch him until he fell asleep himself.... Hoshi also PREORDERED the whole pride set from like nike last year and he's a DIE HARD Shawol. 

Taemin is also a bicon

 

Omg completely forgot him preordering pride set as a whole, i think i made a post about it here, thanks for reminding me!! *^*

 

Also yes, Hoshi's touch is very bi, one of his fav songs also known as bi anthem you should see its MV

Touch:

One of his fav songs, which... Just watch the mv you will see it:

 

His bias is also Taemin btw lol

Edited January 5, 2021 by lighterxx

[dumdidumdi]

9 hours ago, joonsoulie said:

Am I the only one who doesn't believe rumors like - at all? Especially about BTS?

I've seen some of these "rumors" and "sasaeng" and "~insider~" accounts that are all equally steadfast in asserting their info is correct and they often blatantly contradict each other. Truth is, we won't know unless something is exposed or someone comes forth with credible evidence. Beyond that, all we have to rely on is vibes and behavior that we can see

You're definitely not the only one. Such a ridiculously small percentage of them are true that it's silly to put any stock in any of them because you never know if that is the 0.0001% that turns out to be true. These accounts rely on people wanting to spread info about idols, especially if it's something malicious. And "insider" accounts are always so stupid. When the insider claims to be a trainee at YGE, a makeup artist for SM and the cousin of a director working for BigHit, you know something is a little off. And the predictions are always so silly. They're either things that are so easy to predict like "TWICE will have a comeback in 2021" or things that literally nobody could prove they are true like "Nayeon gets into fights with her managers all the time, the managers secretly hate her". (I made these up just now and they're about as credible as anything you'd find on allkpop or quora)

5 hours ago, YooJeong said:

I want to weigh in on this real quick. Not on Yoongi dating Suran and/or Jiyeong, but on the way that the Kpop fandom as a whole seems to approach dating rumors/speculation among their idols. Sorry, kind of a rant/analysis on heteronormative discourse in the Kpop fandom, not aimed at anyone here specifically:

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1) I think the difference in  the degree/amoount of "proof" necessary for the Kpop fandom to believe a heterosexual VS homosexual/non-het relationship, is very telling.

-A female idol posts a video of her cat, a male idol posts a photo of a cat, and suddenly everyone is convinced they're dating. A male idol says he thinks girls with red hair are cute, and he's straight/dating his dongsaeng from the same company who recently dyed her hair red. 

-If two male idols (not from the same group) go on private trips together, do similar "lovestagrams", take videos together late at night, wear matching clothes, etc., then they're just friends and anyone who tries to speculate that they're dating is met with immense skepticism.

I feel like anyone can go ahead and say "Guy A is dating Girl B because they posted similar pictures a few days/weeks apart" and they will be met with some eye rolls at most. But somehow, with the same amount of or more "proof", a same-sex couple is not believable and there's so much skepticism. 

Or a male idol says "X girl is pretty" and that renders him straight, completely erasing the idea of 1) bisexuality or pansexuality, and 2) the other cases where said male idol has expressed interest in the opposite sex.

2) A lot of the skepticism around same-sex rumors/speculation stems from the fact that SK is very conservative. However, just because a country is conservative doesn't mean the amount of same-sex couples and people will be lower?

The chances are, realistically, not going to be lower than in other countries just because a country is less accepting. Homosexuality has always existed, even in Puritan times when you couldn't smile in church cuz it was that conservative. The erase of same-sex intimacies stems from a lot of colonial cultural archives and/or histories that have been twisted and sexualized as heterosexual. 

3) I understand that the impact is different because SK is conservative. Obviously if the SK public sees enough "evidence" to think an idol is attracted to the same sex, that could destroy and terribly damage the person's career. But also, SK will pretty much turn a blind eye to anything unless the idol explicitly comes out. 

4) I feel like Kpop fandom says "we can't assume same-sex interest as easily bc SK culture is so conservative and different" which is fair, but also why can we assume opposite-sex interest, then? Idols still can't flirt or date openly with the opposite sex, they know their fans are watching 24/7, that's why dating bans exist and such. So idols are quite restricted in showing attraction to the opposite sex too. But nobody hesitates to assume that the second Jungkook or Sehun or any idol stares at Solbin for 1 second too long? Just. So heteronormative and I am tired. 

 

And about Yoongi.

I said it before, I think he does have a preference for women, but at this point he's done all but come out, he's been very clear that he doesn't care about gender. I'm not going to label him bc I think his sexuality (like all sexuality) is very fluid, but I think he's been about as clear as he can be, even if we completely ignores his rap lyrics. What else could he do to make things more clear at this point except actually come out. 

Wearing limited-edition pride shoes that could only be bought in store, repeatedly wearing merchandise that has references to semi-obscure LGBTQIA+ films and/or books, the Japan interview (no matter how you translate it or which translation you pick, what he says indicates that his preferences aren't decided by sex/gender), him speaking out in other interviews (even when RM clammed up about the Same Love question, Yoongi jumped right in to say love is love/it's all equal), him explicitly saying he wrote stories about two male singers, him saying he had crushes in high school when he went to an all boy's school, the list goes on and on and on.

I guess you could argue he's just super comfortable in his sexuality and that he's a really good ally, but again: why is it that a idol says ONCE "I want kids" and he's straight (*cough*at everyone stuck on lil 2014 Taehyung wanting a family*cough*), but an idol can have like 800 receipts indicating he's open to the same sex/attracted to multiple genders and somehow it's just "not enough"? Heterosexuality is still being used as the default in Kpop fandom and it's exhausting T__T    

 

Edit: By heterosexuality being the default, I mean that Kpop fandom is still finding it easier to assume everyone is straight. In my opinion it is just as odd to assume someone is heterosexual as it is otherwise. Statistically yes, more heterosexual people in the world, but I'm not talking about numbers/probability. I'm more referring to the way discussions on sexuality in Kpop center on and around heterosexuality, idk if that makes sense?

I wish I could give you more than one heart . 95% of the time when someone says "don't assume idols' sexualities" they actually mean "don't assume they're anything other than straight". I've seen so many stans say that "well this idol presents as straight so that's the only sexuality you should associate with them". Most of the time, this is about BTS. But come on, the number of idols (especially newer gen) who have talked openly about their dating life and preferences is negligible. You can't keep holding onto a comment they made years ago about their ideal type that they didn't even volunteer information for, they were asked by interviewers.

Two idols of the same sex can hold hands, talk about how dreamy the other is, go on dates every time their schedules align and people would be saying they're good friends. Two idols of the opposite sex can just like the same music and you have dedicated stan accounts that make photo edits of the new couple.

About your edit, that would be valid criticism (the people you're talking about, not yourself) if fans were saying every idol is gay, but nobody is saying that except for maybe some young kids on twitter who are just now discovering their sexuality and are probably saying it as a joke anyway. And I've never seen an idol's reputation being hurt by i-fans assuming they're gay, it'd have to take a hell of a lot of k-netz thinking the idol is gay for their reputation to suffer. I mean if I were a celebrity in a conservative country that's in the closet I would feel happy seeing that at least some of my fans would be supportive of me if I were to come out. And if an idol that is straight sees these comments and gets offended, well, I don't exactly feel bad for homophobes. Obviously don't tag them on twitter and tell them they're gay, but, discussions like these are mostly harmless.

[Anii]

20 minutes ago, liberalitea said:

yay some rookie talk !

TOO:

the trio of woonggi/minsu/jerome are the most freqeuntly mentioned, for obvious reasons and the arguments make sense.

woonggi just does not seem straight to me at all, and i think there was a video of him talking about pentagon's hongseok and it seemed like he was crushing on him (understandably so, hongseok was an absolute thirst trap on rtk)

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also if anyone has any opinions on pentagon please share!!

minsu doesn't have as many receipts as the other 2, but he just pings and i cannot picture him with a girl at all.

and jerome is an absolute cutie ! him correcting the fan about the pronouns at least proves he's open minded. i think he may also have had a crush on jyou.

also them being the closest trio in TOO (my perspective) may be indicative of something. like they may find some comfort with eachother or relate ?

i personally think kyungho is straight (that whole acting thing with park minyoung where he got flustered lol) and if he is bi, then he's female leaning.

the only other possible lgbt member is jyou imo

CRAVITY- 

jungmo has a very interesting past.

i don't know if he actually came out to his friends and they outed him (which would suck) because they didn't know he'd become an idol, or if he "acted gay" in their opinion and used it as a "joke".

he also seems pretty natural with giving and receiving attention to and from guys. that video of him flirting with the white guy and not getting embarrassed whereas the other dude was literally red lmao.

there's also this:

at 14:07, the male host asks him if he's ever had a girlfriend and he seems taken aback and gets flustered. he ends up denying it and saying he's never been in a relationship.

hyeongjun seems to really like male attention imo and i think he lowkey had a crush on minkyu back in PDX

i think that seongmin could actually be on the ace/aro spectrum. he's feminine yes, but he also doesn't seem to be attracted to anyone. but he's young, so he may still be confused 

i go between bi and straight for wonjin.

some other rookies that i think are sus-

keeho from p1harmony & sunoo from enhypen 

(there are a few more, those 2 are just the 1st to come to mind)

Thank you for adding on to my post! Seongmin being ace/aro could be very possible. I've never thought about it. I also agree with Kyungho being female-leaning if he is bi. I can do a Pentagon analysis if people want it. (For me, Kino, Yanan, Shinwon and maybe Hui ping)

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14 minutes ago, liberalitea said:

also.... i might as well start the discussion. 

what do you think of pentagon?

they don't get talked about a lot here (understandably, they seem pretty straight as a whole) but kino is a bicon (pan?) imo.

yanan and jun's relationship seems sus too.

I agree about Yanan Jun being very sus, im not sure about Kino, he gives me vibes of ally but not being LGBT+ but it might be just me o.o

However Yanan and Jun is not discussed here i believe, most of the content might have disappeared now since time passed, im glad to talk about them if anyone wants despite that o.o

[Leylaa]

2 hours ago, lighterxx said:

Mingyu only had one bad time all these years and it was at boomboom era, where he was clearly overwhelmed about everything; not solely about relationships at all. Which one are you talking about? I dont remember a 97 liner vlive with Jeonghan.

Yeah it was around boomboom era and just like I said it could just be jealousy between friends or maybe he was a bit homophobic who knows it was a long time ago

I think it was this vlive and Jeonghan wasn't there. DK talked about him wearing matching outfits with Jeonghan or something similar 

https://www.vlive.tv/post/1-18265893 

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1 hour ago, dumdidumdi said:

It wasn't BigHit, it was an independent reporter that watched the whole CCTV footage that said that. BigHit can't just release the footage because 1) it's not even theirs to release and 2) it would breach everyone else's privacy too.

The reason why I buy that they weren't dating is because of how big of a scandal it would've been if it turned out that they denied it but it was true all along. I mean, if JK was "careless" enough to backhug his alleged girlfriend in front of 8 other people, with cameras on them, who's to say he wouldn't have do it another time that people could find after some digging. I think either they weren't dating so he didn't think much of how it would be perceived or they were hooking up for basically only during that time so they felt safe in knowing that no other information could be leaked.

Well, at least we can agree that Yoongi's Japanese girlfriend isn't real. 

I'm sorry but I won't believe it unless I can see it with my own eyes. We know what these "independent" journalists can write. In addition, Big Hit's statement portrayed it as if Jungkook and his friends in the tattoo shop had met there by chance, It turned out later that this was not the case. I think we'll agree to dissagree once again lol

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23 minutes ago, PurpleAnii said:

Thank you for adding on to my post! Seongmin being ace/aro could be very possible. I've never thought about it. I also agree with Kyungho being female-leaning if he is bi. I can do a Pentagon analysis if people want it. (For me, Kino, Yanan, Shinwon and maybe Hui ping)

no problem ! and a pentagon analysis would be cool, since they don't get talked about much around here.

(another group i wanted to talk about was sf9, but i'm not sure how many people follow them)

24 minutes ago, lighterxx said:

im not sure about Kino

kino's support sometimes seems a bit too personal to me so that's why i think he's bi/pan

 

25 minutes ago, lighterxx said:

However Yanan and Jun is not discussed here i believe, most of the content might have disappeared now since time passed, im glad to talk about them if anyone wants despite that

i've been trying to find yanan/jun details but to no avail >.<

i did hear that apparently jun took yanan to his home to visit his parents though  (?) 

i may be remembering it wrong

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5 minutes ago, Leylaa said:

Yeah it was around boomboom era and just like I said it could just be jealousy between friends or maybe he was a bit homophobic who knows it was a long time ago

I think it was this vlive and Jeonghan wasn't there. DK talked about him wearing matching outfits with Jeonghan or something similar 

https://www.vlive.tv/post/1-18265893 

It looks like he cringed at Jeonghan part, as svt in general cringes to their hyungs tbh. Right after Seokmin, he asked Minghao if he wanted to wear couple outfits with him, so i dont see how it can be homophobic, it seems like honest cringing at "look at my friends sigh" thing. I remember those sweats btw, carats somehow made a big deal out of it, so i understand why he disapproved tbh 

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1 minute ago, liberalitea said:

no problem ! and a pentagon analysis would be cool, since they don't get talked about much around here.

(another group i wanted to talk about was sf9, but i'm not sure how many people follow them)

kino's support sometimes seems a bit too personal to me so that's why i think he's bi/pan

 

i've been trying to find yanan/jun details but to no avail >.<

i did hear that apparently jun took yanan to his home to visit his parents though  (?) 

i may be remembering it wrong

I remember that too but searched up, nothing showed up ;-; thats why i talked about some of the moments might be lost rip

However Jun's mom is a bit crazy, i hope im remembering wrong, last thing i would want is her talking on weibo on yanan tbh

They had alot of moments in that collab show however, i even remember show had to censor some words due to it being inappropriate (tldr felt too gay, too feminine at times)

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I love them. 

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12 hours ago, dumdidumdi said:

I think the same. If it's incredibly obvious, it's definitely for PR. And if it's more subtle, well, you wouldn't be able to connect the dots unless you were already looking to make the connection. And besides, BTS obviously don't want you to know who they're dating, so you wouldn't be able to tell by looking at what emojis someone used on an instagram post.

I know those two weren't connected, I was making a joke. It seemed a little weird that you said that about him and not the others. JK isn't doing anything particularly notable compared to the others, they're all living their best lives. And the rumor goes he bought everyone drinks, but you go off and prove he's straight by saying he bought girls drinks.

Why does this feel so accurate

where did i prove he was straight tf??? If you could read I clearly said based on RUMORS and my OPINIONS. Do you know that rumors can be fake right??? But jk is doing things that standout from the others and it has been a topic of discussion. People accuse him of rebelling, although I dont agree and think he is finally just doing his own thing and having fun as a young adult since he missed out on alot as a teen. The types of places, type of clubs he goes to with his friends and the RUMORS that I heard about him in the clubs. We literally know jackshit about these idols and everything on this thread is based on assumptions, rumors, opinions.

 

Ive also heard quite a few rumors of sehun with girls, but ive also heard a few about him with guys. I could say he might be bi, but based on multiple incidents im more prone to believe he is indeed gay and doesnt like girls.