Which male idols do you think are gay?

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3 hours ago, you wish you knew said:

these opinions are based on the rumors that i've heard + my observations.

first of all.. i'm pretty sure that ten is gay. (literally everyone knows that but.. anyways.) taeyong - bi or gay.

i would say taehyung is gay too but i think he once talked about having kids of his own (please correct me if i'm wrong) so.. idk. (but then again wentworth miller used to talk about the exact same thing when he was in the closet too so..) he could be bi. or gay. overall i think he's definitely interested in men (or goes both ways).

jimin -bisexual. haven't heard anything about him being attracted to the same sex but i do think that he is interested in men.

also.. kai from exo (yes. yes him.) i have heard several things about him here and there. pretty sure he's interested in men. he could be bi. (i think he's gay though. lol)

also i'm pretty sure that sehun is not gay. he could be bi but he is definitely interested in women.

chanyeol, baekhyun, kyungsoo, xiumin, yixing -ALL straight. not sure about junmyeon (suho).

ravi (vixx) -BISEXUAL.

I agree with everything here except Sehun being interested in women. I just cannot see that being feasible tbh, he’s said so many things himself as have the other members of EXO like someone else just mentioned. His behaviour around men (particularly older men, that’s umm quite telling lol) and I find it very hard to read his vibe as being anything other than gay. It’s more than just incidents and what he says or does... it’s literally everything 

[BYULTENHWALL]

From my opinions and some rumors i think

Bts:

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I change my mind I think taehung is bi. Ive heard he likes both, but theres more rumors with him with women. He had a gf during bts rookie years. The whole park bogum thing was weird and i think something did happen, but the guy creeps me out sorry. I think he was the one RM was reffering to when he said gfs or bfs

jin/rm are probably the straightest. There are rumors about jin having a long term gf and theres some rumors/jokes about rm being engaged and has a child lol

Hmm I think suga is straight. Idk about the whole suran business but maybe something did happen. He dated a japanese girl in 2016/17. I dont really see anything that suggests hes nothing more than an ally

jhope/jimin i think are straight but i can see why people think otherwise. Jhope is the opposite of his image irl and he just has an eccentric fashion sense. Jimin is described as a narcissist by his members. I think hes just really confident. Plus ppl think hes gay because he appears feminine but, he just knows how to dress and his features really arent as feminine as ppl say. He has plump lips, thats literally it.

Jungkook is straight. Dudes living his best life. 

 

Exo

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chen/chanyeol/lay are straight. chen is married. Chanyeol likes women too much. Lay is homophobic.

sehun. Is gay. Theres too much to really think otherwise. Theres been a few rumors about him with men. There was a picture of him and a girl going into a taxi and someone said it was his gf but, that could just be his friend or family member. For me to think sehun is anything but gay, there has to be an actual dating reveal of him with a girl. Plus he's also really lowkey.

Baekhyun/ xiumin. Straight. Baek cranks up the fanservice to 100, I cant take anything he does as proof of anything tbh. He knows what fans want and delivers. Xiumin just has a feminine face but theres nothing that suggests he's anything but straight. There was a rumour he has a gf but i only heard it once.

kai/d.o/suho. I think I know why ppl think kai is bi. I saw someone on twt mention there was apparently alot of rumors of him with men. What I am sure of is that he likes girls. I've seen some ppl say d.o is gay, but i dont buy it. If anything he might be bi. There was a pic of him with a girl but his fans said it was hi friend and was his mum so idk. I do think he likes both. Suho I think his bi and was in a relationship with a man. There were also rumors about him getting rejected by a female idol, but idk how credible it is lol.

 

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ten gay. I think its kinda obvious

Johnny is bi and I do think there was something with him and ten. 

Jaehyun/jaemin/mark/doyoung are straight. So many rumors about jaehyun dating. He apparently dates alot. Jaemin, his gf exposed them. Mark is straight. There was a rumour with a picture of doyoung dating an older woman.

Taeyong. Maybe bi. Ether way he basically revealed himslef as submissive lmao

Jungwoo. I think is gay. But its kinda hard cause of his clingy uwu image. So maybe we're wrong, I wouldnt be surprised.

Lucas/yuta/haechan/taeil/kun/hendery/xiaojun/renjun/yangyang/winwin/chenle i think are straight

 

got7

Im not gonna lie i think are all straight

tvxq

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yunho is gay. Im sure of that

jaejoong is bi. I also think something may have happened with yunho and jae

everyone else is straight

 

shinee

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key gay

jonghyun i think is bi. But I dont think key and jjong dated. I do think key had a crush on him

People used to think taemin was gay because of his androgyny but I think its kinda obvious dude likes girls. 

 

 

Edited January 5, 2021 by BYULTENHWALL

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the sehun talk reminded me of this

this too, forgot to add:

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[dumdidumdi]

12 hours ago, OptimusPremier said:

People really should stop believing anything 2013-2015 BTS ever said. All the BS they spewed about girlfriends was most likely entirely fabricated. Groups like NCT or whatnot have ex-girlfriends, victims of bullying etc coming through with pictures and stories and you're gonna make me believe none of BTS' alleged ex-girlfriends would have done the same thing between 2013 and 2015? Park Sewon said she was Jungkook's girlfriend in 2013 with two pics of them goofing together as prooves (whether you believe or not, and she's been constantly posting about him ever since) and that's it. The only pre-debut pics of members with girls around if I'm not mistaken.

They weren't always untouchable and they knew it, had the reputation of being squeaky clean for a reason (despite a witch hunt on their ass, still no dirt to be found) because they knew it would never be forgiven coming from them, from a small company that the big ones were trying to sink. It obvsiously changed in 2016 when they all reached around 20 of age, when I think they really started dating.

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In my opinion idols end puberty very late (ending puberty at 18 is considered late-bloomer normally) because trainee years withdraw their puberty: their bodies start to change when they start dating like for real (like Taehyung who hit a massive growth spurt between 2015-20-probably around 173cm/53kg and 2017-22-around 178cm/63kg, like who the fuck grows 10kg and 5cm at 21? Kpop idols that's who. Same goes with Jungkook between 2016-19 and 2018-21, Namjoon between 2014-20 and 2016-22 or even Jimin who went through a drastic diet to get rid of his baby fat more quickly because he still had it at 20).

Also what is this slander about my boy Yoongi?

First-of-all, the "love letter" was for his 2nd year of middle school "girlfriend" (you know when he was 12) and he was basically apologizing for ignoring her and making things awkward by merely acting like a friend? Himself questioned if it could even be called "love" but that he was regretful of treating her that way (and that's literally the only example of an ex-girlfriend he came up with at 20). 

Suran and Jiyeong both used Yoongi's name, they did the exact same thing: get attention on social media and deny when fans genuinely started to think they had a thing with Yoongi. If you think Yoongi dated Suran then you think he dated Jiyeong there's no in-between except heteronormativity. There's actually more substance to believe in Yijeong: Yoongi bought him expensive music equipments and got him to be an in-house producer at BigHit who exclusively produces for/with Yoongi while Suran posted shit like S love S or the word Suga because the commenters/followers she had gained after their collab were starting to leave and she wanted to keep them there.

I don't think any of them had a relationship with Yoongi personally: the 7 members didn't get through their 7 years career clean of actual dating rumors for nothing. I am fairly certain there is strong responsability/warning from the members and the company towards the partners that they should never do anything that could expose them (even petty exes never peeped a word or a hint, that's how tight BigHit's watch is). You just don't fuck with BTS's reputation in South Korea now, that's a thing and that's why Suran tried to keep her antics deniable and turned petty when it reached BigHit, she hadn't probably intended for it to go this far, to even reach Yoongi's ears. Jiyeong went far because he's actually close to Yoongi and didn't expect his posts to be interpreted this way. 

I would never believe for one second any social media-based interactions to suggest one of the members is in a relationship.

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Honestly even in general in Kpop, it's often just PR relationships that actually make fans believe lovestagram is even a thing, when it's basically "hinting at our relationship without actually being together in a pic/ever except that one time Dispatch caught us oops" like please how more PR can it get?

 

Yeah I agree with most of this, especially that last part. BTS' reputation would be hurt if they were dating someone, they wouldn't risk it by having their SOs post seemingly "obvious" things about their relationship on instagram. And I feel like the only time people bring up teenaged ex girlfriends is with BTS because there's hardly anything to talk about from recent times. I'm not sure the people I dated in middle school would inform anyone about my current preferences. I mean I don't like it when people think they're priests who have never even thought of touching another person in a less than innocent way, but I see this as another extreme of that. It's like they've either dated everyone they've breathed the same air with or they've never dated anyone because they're oh so busy. Obviously they've dated people, they're grown ass men, but believing every random twitter prediction account about overseas girlfriends or youtube videos with dramatic music in the background that shows videos of them being at the same award show as proof is a little naive on the opposite end of the spectrum. This goes both for Yoongi and JK and his tattoo artist, which, speaking of:

4 hours ago, ga_shina said:

Didn't JK have a dating scandal with a tattoo artist? Granted who knows if they were dating (I think they were) but for JK who acts like he is afraid of women to be back hugging someone is interesting to say the least. . 

I've discussed this issue before on this thread but I'll say it again: the photo was picked carefully to cause a scandal, they could've shown him hugging any of the other people that were there (which he did do) but they chose her. So there's as much proof that he was dating anyone else in that room as there is that he was dating her. I can only imagine the backlash (as if he didn't already receive enough) he and BigHit would've gotten if they lied and it turned out that they were actually dating. It's not the smartest situation to lie about. If they were dating, a better response would've been something like TWICE Chaeyoung and, coincidentally, her tattoo artist where they could just state they have no comment, especially given that he was on a break that time, they could just say "we cannot publicly reveal what an artist did or did not do while on a personal break". The backlash about them dating and BigHit lying about it would be far greater than them just dating. And can we leave the "JK is afraid of women " jokes in 2014 where they originated. He doesn't act like he's afraid of women, he's not a kid that was very momentarily uncomfortable and then totally fine right after during a music video shoot, he's a 23 year old man who obviously at least hangs out with women in a friendly scenario if nothing else.

Personally, I don't think he is straight, but I know most people disagree. A lot of people paint him as this macho muscle pig that is so stereotypically straight he cannot be anything other than just that, but I don't see that at all.

And also, lovestagrams being a big thing in Korea doesn't mean that every single Korean person likes them, same with matching clothes and couple rings. 

2 hours ago, BYULTENHWALL said:

Jungkook is straight. Dudes living his best life. 

Ah yes, I love that my lack of straightness is preventing me from living my best life.

I mean the fact that you even bring up the 'Namjoon is married with kids' thing tells me everything I need to know.

 

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12 hours ago, lighterxx said:

So, Hoshi got really, really wasted today. For non fans, he is known to kiss people when he is drunk, which members complained before

 

 

I am unsure about how to view drunken actions, but i am indeed very curious how he views his drunk self now, as he tried to kiss people next to him multiple times throughout the whole episode constantly (i said people but he only asked from seokmin lol)

 

what does everyone think? I believe im too biased when it comes to him so it would be nice to hear some opinions. I always thought him as either bi or pan however

 

I want to get drunk with this man, it would be the most fun I ever had, until he inevitably crashes and passes out for the rest of the night. I'm biased too, I think. But I do see him as bi, because he just radiates big bi energy. Maybe pan would a label he would identify with more.

  

5 hours ago, you wish you knew said:

also, of course! i only said that because gay couples can’t really get married, adopt kids or get a child through surrogacy in SK. of course gay people can have kids of their own and i really hope that we will get to see the days where lgbt people finally have their rights to get married and have kids. sorry if i misspoke! 

I mean I also talk about having kids often too, even though I never plan on having biological children. And where I live same sex adoption isn't legal either, but it's not like I can't fantasize or plan things that aren't completely realistic. And it's not like Tae can't move if he wants to. He definitely loves travelling and immersing himself in other cultures. 

[TataBoo]

8 hours ago, you wish you knew said:

these opinions are based on the rumors that i've heard + my observations.

first of all.. i'm pretty sure that ten is gay. (literally everyone knows that but.. anyways.) taeyong - bi or gay.

i would say taehyung is gay too but i think he once talked about having kids of his own (please correct me if i'm wrong) so.. idk. (but then again wentworth miller used to talk about the exact same thing when he was in the closet too so..) he could be bi. or gay. overall i think he's definitely interested in men (or goes both ways).

jimin -bisexual. haven't heard anything about him being attracted to the same sex but i do think that he is interested in men.

also.. kai from exo (yes. yes him.) i have heard several things about him here and there. pretty sure he's interested in men. he could be bi. (i think he's gay though. lol)

also i'm pretty sure that sehun is not gay. he could be bi but he is definitely interested in women.

chanyeol, baekhyun, kyungsoo, xiumin, yixing -ALL straight. not sure about junmyeon (suho).

ravi (vixx) -BISEXUAL.

Wait but how are you sure Sehun is definitely interested in women?

[TataBoo]

BTS- Maknae line are all sus,  but Taehyung is the one I'm most convinced likes men to an extent. No offense, but if he's 100% straight then I'm also doubting if trees are green. 

Exo- Sehun and Suho for sure like men. Suho could be bi. Baekhyun I feel like does actually show attraction to tall handsome men, but most of his actions are fanservice. Kyungsoo also sort of gives vibes.

Got7- Jinyoung and Jackson could be attracted to men. Jinyoung seems a bit awkward around girls but maybe that's just me.

Seventeen- Wonwoo, Woozi, and Scoups seem attracted to men to an extent. They just radiate it. Hoshi is kind of sus since that drunk kissing scene. Mingyu is also sus and if he does like guys he will probably have extreme internalized homophobia(just my thought). 

Astro- I don't know much but I think Moonbin isn't straight.

 

[OptimusPremier]

On 1/5/2021 at 4:03 AM, dumdidumdi said:

Personally, I don't think he is straight, but I know most people disagree. A lot of people paint him as this macho muscle pig that is so stereotypically straight he cannot be anything other than just that, but I don't see that at all.

And also, lovestagrams being a big thing in Korea doesn't mean that every single Korean person likes them, same with matching clothes and couple rings. 

Ah yes, I love that my lack of straightness is preventing me from living my best life.

I mean the fact that you even bring up the 'Namjoon is married with kids' thing tells me everything I need to know.

 

I get demisexual vibes from Jungkook for some reasons (and a preference for older people?).

Also lovestagrams as kpop fans see it is not a ting I insist: regular/real couple will also have pics together, real-life interactions together, will message or adress each other in some ways. Lovestagram is such a PR move that it has become fandom culture in kpop, but it's not an organic south korean thing (anyone can try typing "lovestagram" in their google search and get ready to get flooded with kpop).

On 1/4/2021 at 11:23 PM, ga_shina said:

Didn't JK have a dating scandal with a tattoo artist? Granted who knows if they were dating (I think they were) but for JK who acts like he is afraid of women to be back hugging someone is interesting to say the least. . 

Jungkook's not afraid of girls, he has been seen hugging and interacting with plenty throughout the years (in 2013-2014 he was just a shy 16 years old boy thrown in the music industry). All male idols have this tendency of fleeing/jumping out of their skin when they come close to a female idol accidentally when they're rookies because they're scared of backlash, that's all there was (recent example, Soobin and Dahyun).

Idk about the tattoo artist he hugged like idk about the staff he goofed around with in some backstage videos like idk about Halsey that he hugged and interacted with. The tattoo artist one blew up because it was leaked CCTV from his private times and for some reason that makes it inherently suspicious in fans' eyes (because it looks like he "hides" her when he actually "hides" so much more people in his life that we'll never get to see).

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[BYULTENHWALL]

1 hour ago, dumdidumdi said:

Yeah I agree with most of this, especially that last part. BTS' reputation would be hurt if they were dating someone, they wouldn't risk it by having their SOs post seemingly "obvious" things about their relationship on instagram. And I feel like the only time people bring up teenaged ex girlfriends is with BTS because there's hardly anything to talk about from recent times. I'm not sure the people I dated in middle school would inform anyone about my current preferences. I mean I don't like it when people think they're priests who have never even thought of touching another person in a less than innocent way, but I see this as another extreme of that. It's like they've either dated everyone they've breathed the same air with or they've never dated anyone because they're oh so busy. Obviously they've dated people, they're grown ass men, but believing every random twitter prediction account about overseas girlfriends or youtube videos with dramatic music in the background that shows videos of them being at the same award show as proof is a little naive on the opposite end of the spectrum. This goes both for Yoongi and JK and his tattoo artist, which, speaking of:

I've discussed this issue before on this thread but I'll say it again: the photo was picked carefully to cause a scandal, they could've shown him hugging any of the other people that were there (which he did do) but they chose her. So there's as much proof that he was dating anyone else in that room as there is that he was dating her. I can only imagine the backlash (as if he didn't already receive enough) he and BigHit would've gotten if they lied and it turned out that they were actually dating. It's not the smartest situation to lie about. If they were dating, a better response would've been something like TWICE Chaeyoung and, coincidentally, her tattoo artist where they could just state they have no comment, especially given that he was on a break that time, they could just say "we cannot publicly reveal what an artist did or did not do while on a personal break". The backlash about them dating and BigHit lying about it would be far greater than them just dating. And can we leave the "JK is afraid of women " jokes in 2014 where they originated. He doesn't act like he's afraid of women, he's not a kid that was very momentarily uncomfortable and then totally fine right after during a music video shoot, he's a 23 year old man who obviously at least hangs out with women in a friendly scenario if nothing else.

Personally, I don't think he is straight, but I know most people disagree. A lot of people paint him as this macho muscle pig that is so stereotypically straight he cannot be anything other than just that, but I don't see that at all.

And also, lovestagrams being a big thing in Korea doesn't mean that every single Korean person likes them, same with matching clothes and couple rings. 

Ah yes, I love that my lack of straightness is preventing me from living my best life.

I mean the fact that you even bring up the 'Namjoon is married with kids' thing tells me everything I need to know.

 

"dudes living his best life" was a referencing to the rumors of him in clubs buying drinks for girls, cause i didnt wanna bring up the whole itaewon scandal again cause fans get mad as i said at the start of my post that it was based on my opinions and rumors i heard but go off i guess. Also his rumored girlfriend and the ppl he hangs out. He also just got a house in itaewon. He's living his best life doing what he wants. Idk how you got you cant live your best life while beign gay from what I said.

Also i said the rumors/JOKES about namjoon married with kids. 

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[ga_shina]

3 minutes ago, OptimusPremier said:

I get demisexual vibes from Jungkook for some reasons (and a preference for older people?).

Also lovestagrams as kpop fans see it is not a ting I insist: regular/real couple will also have pics together and such. Only having "hints" of being together (same location, background or accessories) is totally a trend created in PR imo. If you're not aware the 2 persons are involved, it's even too subtle of a thing to notice (that's why couples need a little push from Dispatch to get fans to pay attention). It's gotten milked to a point now it literally gets the fans moving to speculate as if you had kicked in an anthill. It's not an organic south korean thing (anyone can try typing "lovestagram" in their google search and get ready to get flooded with kpop).

 

Nah I disagree. Even now JK avoids looking/being close to female celebrities. It’s a running joke with armies. Idk if he’s afraid of his fans or what. I personally don’t really believe the whole JK is shy/afraid of girls idea. Again is quite likely that he was dating a tattoo artist as I don’t think guys randomly back hug girls they aren’t dating. 
In BTS I think only Tae is likely to be gay.

 

[OptimusPremier]

Yoongi straight, I have to stand up. So first-off, Yoongi was all about that "armys are my girlfriends, armys who date are betrayers, keep your finger empty for me etc" in 2014 - 2015 but starting from 2016 he stopped giving a shit (did he realise he wasn't straight or was he just tired of pretending he was? I wouldn't know) :

 

 

 

 

Back in 2013 at the beginning, his "ideal type" answers were either gender-neutral, a very thorough description of himself or random stuff like "girl with high-tech phone", "girl with headphones" etc (he started playing fans' boyfriend in 2014-2015).

Also the context for "my heart doesn't flutter for men" is this, which just looks like panicky back-tracking because he was going off on Hobi's charms (I can hear that laugh):

 

And that's without even mentioning his multiple statements that are being disminished one by one apparently:

"My voice turns you on, whether a guy or a girl my tongue can make you come"

"Everyone's equal"

"Rather than an ideal type, it's the atmosphere and it's not limited to a girl"

I get that all separetly it can be disminished and scrutinized but altogether, really? Like?

 

Now this :

 

Without even mentioning when he thoroughly described his male ideal type (macho, with beard and tanned skin, Cha Heungwon-like, which by the way he went straight for the hug when he met him, seemingly taken the actor by surprise a bit) or talking about making-up stories about a male athlete and a male singer he used to follow.

Also I stand by the fact that his relationship with Zhoumi was sus (Zhoumi was bummed when Yoongi didn't describe him as his ideal type, the other hosts were shocked that Yoongi used banmal/informal speech with him and Zhoumi said Yoongi used to arrive unannounced in the middle of the night and knows his home's password, he attended some of their concerts and then abrupt silence since 2016) and his crush on Taehyung in 2018 was (still is) sus.

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1 hour ago, OptimusPremier said:

Also lovestagrams as kpop fans see it is not a ting I insist: regular/real couple will also have pics together and such. Only having "hints" of being together (same location, background or accessories) is totally a trend created in PR imo. If you're not aware the 2 persons are involved, it's even too subtle of a thing to notice (that's why couples need a little push from Dispatch to get fans to pay attention). It's gotten milked to a point now it literally gets the fans moving to speculate as if you had kicked in an anthill. It's not an organic south korean thing (anyone can try typing "lovestagram" in their google search and get ready to get flooded with kpop).

I think the same. If it's incredibly obvious, it's definitely for PR. And if it's more subtle, well, you wouldn't be able to connect the dots unless you were already looking to make the connection. And besides, BTS obviously don't want you to know who they're dating, so you wouldn't be able to tell by looking at what emojis someone used on an instagram post.

1 hour ago, BYULTENHWALL said:

"dudes living his best life" was a referencing to the rumors of him in clubs buying drinks for girls, cause i didnt wanna bring up the whole itaewon scandal again cause fans get mad as i said at the start of my post that it was based on my opinions and rumors i heard but go off i guess. Also his rumored girlfriend and the ppl he hangs out. He also just got a house in itaewon. He's living his best life doing what he wants. Idk how you got you cant live your best life while beign gay from what I said.

Also i said the rumors/JOKES about namjoon married with kids. 

I know those two weren't connected, I was making a joke. It seemed a little weird that you said that about him and not the others. JK isn't doing anything particularly notable compared to the others, they're all living their best lives. And the rumor goes he bought everyone drinks, but you go off and prove he's straight by saying he bought girls drinks.

1 hour ago, TataBoo said:

Mingyu is also sus and if he does like guys he will probably have extreme internalized homophobia(just my thought). 

Why does this feel so accurate

[OptimusPremier]

1 hour ago, ga_shina said:

Nah I disagree. Even now JK avoids looking/being close to female celebrities. It’s a running joke with armies. Idk if he’s afraid of his fans or what. I personally don’t really believe the whole JK is shy/afraid of girls idea. Again is quite likely that he was dating a tattoo artist as I don’t think guys randomly back hug girls they aren’t dating. 
In BTS I think only Tae is likely to be gay.

I mean yeah if you're stuck in 2016 and thinks Yoongi's a bad boy, Jimin an innocent baby, Taekook are the closest, Namjin are the parents of the group or Hoseok's the camp one because he likes covering girl groups dances?

Look up his interactions with Halsey and check for yourself (he probably avoids kpop female idols because some fans like to ship them and he doesn't want to entertain that). Fans build up narratives and kept themselves stuck in them for absolutely no reason, it baffles me sometimes.

For the tattoo artist thing, Jungkook's extremely touchy (almost in a childish way still) and it was after a karaoke night so he might have been drunk too. He didn't try to hide who he was and knew the owners had recognized him: he left his sign on a BTS poster that night. So I'm just a bit dubious he'd be all up his girlfriend in public if she really was because there was no way it wouldn't create rumors (and it ended up with a leaked CCTV which he didn't expect as if he didn't think he was doing anything wrong because she's just obviously a close friend to him, that's also a possibility: at first BigHit confirmed he was indeed out with friends but that it was private times, there would be suing and so on, and THEN later they denied she was his girlfriend when they understood what was the fuss about, as if they hadn't even thought of this possibility at first).

I agree that this is still possible they were/are actually dating, like I don't absolutely sway a way or not, I'm just doubtful.

[joonsoulie]

Am I the only one who doesn't believe rumors like - at all? Especially about BTS?

I've seen some of these "rumors" and "sasaeng" and "~insider~" accounts that are all equally steadfast in asserting their info is correct and they often blatantly contradict each other. Truth is, we won't know unless something is exposed or someone comes forth with credible evidence. Beyond that, all we have to rely on is vibes and behavior that we can see

[joonsoulie]

8 hours ago, Gentle_fox said:

lol this revolving door convos...anyways, the one thing that stands out about Sehun and his sexuality is not only his own words, but his members when asked whom among their group would be okay with dating their sister, that said it all 

Isn't there an interview where two members of the group (idk which) were asked which member a fangirl wouldn't want to date and they said Sehun, not because of a problem with his personality but that it was the 'opposite gender'?

If they really were outing him that's horrible but like... how do you misinterpret that

[you wish you knew]

8 hours ago, Dont mind me said:

This is the first time I have heard he was fooling around with women. Where did you hear these rumours?

friends who know people. i do think they have credibility. of course i'm not claiming them to be 100% true (no one can know someone's sexuality for sure unless they come out), nor am i involved with weirdo s*saengs, and i'm definitely not trying to convince others. as i said these are just rumors plus my personal opinions.

 

8 hours ago, Gentle_fox said:

lol this revolving door convos...anyways, the one thing that stands out about Sehun and his sexuality is not only his own words, but his members when asked whom among their group would be okay with dating their sister, that said it all to me. 

uh.. okay. lol

3 hours ago, TataBoo said:

Wait but how are you sure Sehun is definitely interested in women?

rumors. a lot of them

[Bushi]

I'd be putting out rumours of dating tons of women if I was possibly dating a middle-aged male chef, and smuggling him into my private vacations, etc. 

 

 

He could be saying he likes men as his fans. But his coy expression and the sudden screech from the audience tells me it's a noteworthy statement. This is even with the knowledge that the Korean language isn't always readily translatable to other languages (personally I get so much joy out of Korean to English translations on Twitter: 'Happy Birthday my dear friend, etc, etc,...' always ends up sounding more like the threat of a bondage/smacking session at midnight). But sometimes a spade is actually a spade. Whichever way you come at it. 

Speaking of gold moments I wanted to find that fabulous gif of Sehun lusting after the award show cameraman, but no luck, sadly.

None of these antics preclude him from liking/dating women, imo. But his own actions, words, and those of his group are also out there and so have to carry some weight for me.  

Edited January 5, 2021 by Bushi

[lighterxx]

6 hours ago, dumdidumdi said:

I want to get drunk with this man, it would be the most fun I ever had, until he inevitably crashes and passes out for the rest of the night. I'm biased too, I think. But I do see him as bi, because he just radiates big bi energy. Maybe pan would a label he would identify with more.

LOL probably, you would have around 2 hours for your life, then he crashes and runs to bed

I have a feeling, he would find attractive people attractive no matter the gender etc, so im leaning towards bi or pan with him, but i guess we are too stanning for this T^T but i completely agree with you

5 hours ago, TataBoo said:

Seventeen- Wonwoo, Woozi, and Scoups seem attracted to men to an extent. They just radiate it. Hoshi is kind of sus since that drunk kissing scene. Mingyu is also sus and if he does like guys he will probably have extreme internalized homophobia(just my thought). 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

For Mingyu... its an odd situation. Around their debut eras (mansae pretty u area if im not mistaken) him and Wonwoo would get tons of weird questions (very sexual ones), so they had a period where mingyu wanted to be close to his friend, wonwoo pushing him out because of those talks. Only recently, like these 2 years or so they seem close again, which im pretty sure @dumdidumdi too realized it. 

 

For anyone who is curious, Wonwoo talked about those weird questions himself. 

most of those tweets from old is deleted, but you can see it getting mentioned here

However, I think Mingyu is quite comfortable maybe its just me? We recently had a SBS fancam, and he was doing tons of cute things with Woozi, he seemed very calm, if anything Woozi was a blushy mess

For Hoshi, on one hand he is an idol people rarely consider, on other, he actually has ALOT of sus moments, like ALOT. He asked ideal male type of Minghao for example,  he is also one of the idols that expressly showed support for LGBT+. 

He was also really interested in a fan that was married and had a husband (gay). However, people are very certain saying he is straight, idk i stan dude since 2014, and he screams bi/pan through ALL these years. Not to sound shippy, but he also has alot of moments with Seokmin, tho i do go between gay or straight for Seokmin, Seokmin has alot of very infamous quotes such Hoshi wanting to sleep next to him and constantly ask kisses. Like, idk how much of these are fanservice, but keep in mind these quotes are from interview, its in general not likely for idols to fanservice through an interview from what i see. 

I also saw he is very uncaring about duo dances with females, which something you dont see alot in kpop these days (3rd gen) as male idols in general feel more nervous next to dancing with a female, Hoshi is opposite, he is very uncaring about it. 

Overall I think, he is bi or pan, however, like i said he is so rarely talked or discussed, thread tends to prefer discussing about other svt members, I guess Hoshi is too unpopular here to be deem as sus rip. 

edit: I forgot to mention his FIRST LOVE

 

 

honestly i can go on

 

 

Edited January 5, 2021 by lighterxx

[artificiaIIove]

"Sometimes i just think to myself that when i look at you [looks at chanyeol] it gives me a thrill of joy. Why do i feel this way about a guy? I also thought about this too. And um... i really don’t know.”  - Sehun, 2015

2015

 

Exo'rdium in Seoul, 2016
Xiumin: "are you saying you like male fans?"
Sehun: "i like.... men"

 

"One thing about Sehun is that he’s not interested in girls." - Baekhyun, 2017

 

MAMA 2017 

June 2020

 

and i think this was from 2018

Edited January 5, 2021 by artificiaIIove

[Gentle_fox]

2 hours ago, joonsoulie said:

Isn't there an interview where two members of the group (idk which) were asked which member a fangirl wouldn't want to date and they said Sehun, not because of a problem with his personality but that it was the 'opposite gender'?

If they really were outing him that's horrible but like... how do you misinterpret that

yup, that's what i was talking about. It was posted a few pages back, i got it a bit mixed up 

"[Talking about which EXO member they wouldn't date if they were a girl] Chen: "This is not disliking Sehun. It is when we are the opposite sex. Because it's opposite gender so my 2nd is Sehun." Then he starts laughing and Ryeowook says "Okay because of privacy we'll skip the reason". I mean...he basically just outed him"

 

1 hour ago, you wish you knew said:

uh.. okay. lol

okay 

[you wish you knew]

okay exols (and others). it really wasn't that serious

 

 

 

 

 

 

all jokes aside he might actually be gay. i really don't know. i only stated what i heard and what i thought (never denied his interest in men). the rumors might not be accurate. but they are there. they might have been created by his pr team though. idk. lol

Edited January 5, 2021 by you wish you knew

[YooJeong]

20 hours ago, OptimusPremier said:

If you think Yoongi dated Suran then you think he dated Jiyeong there's no in-between except heteronormativity. There's actually more substance to believe in 

 

I want to weigh in on this real quick. Not on Yoongi dating Suran and/or Jiyeong, but on the way that the Kpop fandom as a whole seems to approach dating rumors/speculation among their idols. Sorry, kind of a rant/analysis on heteronormative discourse in the Kpop fandom, not aimed at anyone here specifically:

Spoiler

1) I think the difference in  the degree/amoount of "proof" necessary for the Kpop fandom to believe a heterosexual VS homosexual/non-het relationship, is very telling.

-A female idol posts a video of her cat, a male idol posts a photo of a cat, and suddenly everyone is convinced they're dating. A male idol says he thinks girls with red hair are cute, and he's straight/dating his dongsaeng from the same company who recently dyed her hair red. 

-If two male idols (not from the same group) go on private trips together, do similar "lovestagrams", take videos together late at night, wear matching clothes, etc., then they're just friends and anyone who tries to speculate that they're dating is met with immense skepticism.

I feel like anyone can go ahead and say "Guy A is dating Girl B because they posted similar pictures a few days/weeks apart" and they will be met with some eye rolls at most. But somehow, with the same amount of or more "proof", a same-sex couple is not believable and there's so much skepticism. 

Or a male idol says "X girl is pretty" and that renders him straight, completely erasing the idea of 1) bisexuality or pansexuality, and 2) the other cases where said male idol has expressed interest in the opposite sex.

2) A lot of the skepticism around same-sex rumors/speculation stems from the fact that SK is very conservative. However, just because a country is conservative doesn't mean the amount of same-sex couples and people will be lower?

The chances are, realistically, not going to be lower than in other countries just because a country is less accepting. Homosexuality has always existed, even in Puritan times when you couldn't smile in church cuz it was that conservative. The erase of same-sex intimacies stems from a lot of colonial cultural archives and/or histories that have been twisted and sexualized as heterosexual. 

3) I understand that the impact is different because SK is conservative. Obviously if the SK public sees enough "evidence" to think an idol is attracted to the same sex, that could destroy and terribly damage the person's career. But also, SK will pretty much turn a blind eye to anything unless the idol explicitly comes out. 

4) I feel like Kpop fandom says "we can't assume same-sex interest as easily bc SK culture is so conservative and different" which is fair, but also why can we assume opposite-sex interest, then? Idols still can't flirt or date openly with the opposite sex, they know their fans are watching 24/7, that's why dating bans exist and such. So idols are quite restricted in showing attraction to the opposite sex too. But nobody hesitates to assume that the second Jungkook or Sehun or any idol stares at Solbin for 1 second too long? Just. So heteronormative and I am tired. 

 

And about Yoongi.

I said it before, I think he does have a preference for women, but at this point he's done all but come out, he's been very clear that he doesn't care about gender. I'm not going to label him bc I think his sexuality (like all sexuality) is very fluid, but I think he's been about as clear as he can be, even if we completely ignores his rap lyrics. What else could he do to make things more clear at this point except actually come out. 

Wearing limited-edition pride shoes that could only be bought in store, repeatedly wearing merchandise that has references to semi-obscure LGBTQIA+ films and/or books, the Japan interview (no matter how you translate it or which translation you pick, what he says indicates that his preferences aren't decided by sex/gender), him speaking out in other interviews (even when RM clammed up about the Same Love question, Yoongi jumped right in to say love is love/it's all equal), him explicitly saying he wrote stories about two male singers, him saying he had crushes in high school when he went to an all boy's school, the list goes on and on and on.

I guess you could argue he's just super comfortable in his sexuality and that he's a really good ally, but again: why is it that a idol says ONCE "I want kids" and he's straight (*cough*at everyone stuck on lil 2014 Taehyung wanting a family*cough*), but an idol can have like 800 receipts indicating he's open to the same sex/attracted to multiple genders and somehow it's just "not enough"? Heterosexuality is still being used as the default in Kpop fandom and it's exhausting T__T    

 

Edit: By heterosexuality being the default, I mean that Kpop fandom is still finding it easier to assume everyone is straight. In my opinion it is just as odd to assume someone is heterosexual as it is otherwise. Statistically yes, more heterosexual people in the world, but I'm not talking about numbers/probability. I'm more referring to the way discussions on sexuality in Kpop center on and around heterosexuality, idk if that makes sense?

Edited January 5, 2021 by YooJeong

[Wnnabe]

3 hours ago, you wish you knew said:

friends who know people. i do think they have credibility. of course i'm not claiming them to be 100% true (no one can know someone's sexuality for sure unless they come out), nor am i involved with weirdo s*saengs, and i'm definitely not trying to convince others. as i said these are just rumors plus my personal opinions.

 

uh.. okay. lol

rumors. a lot of them

I know what you're talking about. It's true that he has a ton of rumors. And he hangs out with Chanyeol.

[Bushi]

I mean, Eminem still hangs out with Elton tbf. 

[artificiaIIove]

15 minutes ago, Wnnabe said:

I know what you're talking about. It's true that he has a ton of rumors. And he hangs out with Chanyeol.

He is his bandmate and their subunit had a comeback on July last year. What are you trying to imply?

Oh, i think Sehun hangs out a lot more with Suho and Suho's friends (donghwan, jaeman, etc).