Which male idols do you think are gay?

[Kpop_fan178]

Just now, seven said:

Well Yunho has a lot of friends, from his high school days til military, celebrities and non celebrities with whom he does a lot of things: visiting and sleeping at their place, having lunch/coffee, clubbing, going on vacations in groups or each time with another friend, visiting his parents, even having a shirtless photo shooting or filming for tv shows together BUT non of this make Yunho’s friends gay/bi, much more being in a relationship with Yunho. 
Son ho jun is as close as he is with Yunho with others male celebrities and is rumoured to be in a long time relationship with an actress. I don't follow him much but I watched 1-2 of his dramas and some tv shows and I think he is straight 

 

p.s. I did’d clowned you  

I mean, i agree, i saw a lot of people perpetuating this idea of them dating and it looked pretty convincing but who knows? And about the rumored actress plss every attractive public person has tons of rumors of dating opposite sex people who work in the same environment especially if they are shippable. You seem pretty interested in actors. Are there any actors you think might be gay/bi?

About the clowns, i don't care, you don't have to excuse yourself XD. If someone wants to send a message to me that person can write a reply in which to explain their thoughts. 

[BYULTENHWALL]

6 hours ago, Eremit said:

I'm not gonna quote cause that's so long, but I mean none of that seems homophobic to me? at that time Jikook was heeeaaaavily pushed (seriously, Jimin was all over JK all the time and people also always brought it up), and based on those descriptions, it mostly seems like Taehyung wanted some of that attention for himself too. Both of those instances seem like Taehyung wants Jimin to stop fawning over JK and pay more attention to him lol

not in a jealous way mind you, but young Tae loved to be the center of attention and Jimin was his bestie, I can see him being annoyed at all the extra-ness.

Edit: someone said he said that...isn't a good source anyway tbh

bts said alot of sexist, homophobic stuff back then. Korean feminists arent a fan of them because of those. It was the image bighit was trying to push so bad. Their image back then was just toxic masculinity, Jimin even said before that men dont kiss to jhope which looking at him now would be surprising he said that. I think bh takes the image thing too far sometimes, the members talked about how uncomfortable it made them with the overly badboy image. I personally feel like even now theyre still playing an image. So its hard to say some things they say it's how they actually feel. This is the same for all kpop groups.

[joonsoulie]

48 minutes ago, BYULTENHWALL said:

bts said alot of sexist, homophobic stuff back then. Korean feminists arent a fan of them because of those. It was the image bighit was trying to push so bad. Their image back then was just toxic masculinity, Jimin even said before that men dont kiss to jhope which looking at him now would be surprising he said that. I think bh takes the image thing too far sometimes, the members talked about how uncomfortable it made them with the overly badboy image. I personally feel like even now theyre still playing an image. So its hard to say some things they say it's how they actually feel. This is the same for all kpop groups.

So basically every piece of analysis done in this thread is moot then, because idols are all playing a character and we can't rely on anything they say or do?

Addtly: For those who say BTS especially has no room for independence I'd like to direct you to a bit of this morning's vlive, where Tae laughs in the face of the staff behind the camera as he spoils his mixtape after saying the company didn't want him to 

 

Edited December 30, 2020 by joonsoulie

[TataBoo]

My last "evidence" wasn't what I imagined it to be oof. Anyways I really do agree with the user above Taehyung is either gay or bisexual with a strong male prefence. Since he has the most female fans and Asian fans in the group(as an Asian myself let's admit these countries are more conservative than the west) of course they will want to think of him as straight and perfect boyfriend material. Tbh I never saw Taehyung as someone who would want to hide his true self despite the traditional views he conveyed during rookie years. I believe what he said before reflected what his family wanted or society in general and it's not what he actually believed. He grew a lot since then and I see changes in his attitude and demeanor since then. It's laughable people still use the "Taehyung said he wants to marry a woman and have five kids" answer from an interview like 5 years ago to prove he can't be anything except straight. Now he only mentions having kids which even if seems impossible for a gay man in Korea, it's Taehyung and I think it's possible one day he will find a way.  Off topic, but there is this one very popular quora user who claims to know BTS on a personal level and keeps saying all 7 of them are straight as a toothpick. She even once claimed "Taehyung has never thought of being gay" as if she could read his mind or being gay is a choice when it's not. How ridiculous and entitled considering the fact she probably doesn't even know any of BTS and is using their name for clout on Quora.

Anyways, V always struck to me as an open minded and rebellious person and we see it even more today. I believe his traditional background and family's values clashed with his free spirited personality. The funny thing is fans want to believe all the receipts of him gay-ing when he was a rookie aren't merited because he was too innocent to know anything. I agree with the innocent part, but I believe he had shown genuine attraction for men back then and now it's possible he's come to terms with who he is and what his preferences are. Out of all members in BTS, Taehyung is the one I feel the most confident of being attracted to men and I wouldn't be surprised if he's seeing a lovely guy right now instead of the dream woman fans imagine themselves in the place of(of course not all fans imagine themselves dating him but I expect many do). 

 

Edited December 31, 2020 by TataBoo

[plutto]

4 hours ago, BYULTENHWALL said:

bts said alot of sexist, homophobic stuff back then. Korean feminists arent a fan of them because of those. It was the image bighit was trying to push so bad. Their image back then was just toxic masculinity, Jimin even said before that men dont kiss to jhope which looking at him now would be surprising he said that. I think bh takes the image thing too far sometimes, the members talked about how uncomfortable it made them with the overly badboy image. I personally feel like even now theyre still playing an image. So its hard to say some things they say it's how they actually feel. This is the same for all kpop groups.

Spoiler

Yes, it's true that they have said tons of ignorant things back in their rookie days. But for the most of those things they recognized their mistakes and apologized/learned from it. They apologized for their sexist lyrics and started to get advices from gender studies professors.

As for homophobic things they've said, I have to disagree that they've said "a lot". I'm confident that there are only two incidents where they've said anything close to being homophobic: The fansign incident (Yes, it did happen. I remember it) and the one you talked about, with Jimin and J-Hope.

The fansign one was in 2014 or 2015, basically Jimin making a lot of aegyo with Jungkook and Taehyung reacting badly to it. Either what Taehyung said was homophobic or not, I guess it varies from each person's opinion. And even if you see it in the worst way possible (Taehyung implying that Jimin has a "bad mental state" because "he may like guys"), I personally don't think it affects the possibility of him being LGBTQ+. If he was indeed that homophobic back then, it wouldn't make his receipts (his possible journey to self-acceptance as a LGBTQ+ man, remember 'Stigma'?) any less significant.

The Jimin and J-Hope one was in the behind the scenes for something they were shooting for Dark & Wild in 2014. They decided to pretend they were bad boys members of enemy gangs meeting up to fight. I am less induced to believe that they were being serious, which is why I don't care that much about it. And even if they somehow were, then well, that was 6 years ago.

(I have trouble to find the actual video but I guess from this gif you can see what it actually was)

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Also, not related at all with the rest of the topic, but while I'm almost 100% sure Taehyung is LGBTQ+, I'm not as confident with him being completely gay. That's mainly because I know a lot of bi guys who are like him (consuming tons of, if not only LGBTQ+ media, etc.) but are bisexual with great degree of attraction to women.

I wouldn't be surprised if he was 100% gay, tho. I just wouldn't bet on it, don't want another Heechul situation happening lol

[seven]

13 hours ago, Kpop_fan178 said:

I mean, i agree, i saw a lot of people perpetuating this idea of them dating and it looked pretty convincing but who knows? And about the rumored actress plss every attractive public person has tons of rumors of dating opposite sex people who work in the same environment especially if they are shippable. You seem pretty interested in actors. Are there any actors you think might be gay/bi?

Son ho jun is not that public attractive person nor an A-list actor, so yeah... who knows...

I watch kdramas and know a bit about some actors but I am not following them much to sustain an opinion with arguments and receipts. Aside from the general known rumoured actors I don't really have anything to add, but I am always open to thoughts and discussions 

[losetodo]

18 hours ago, Josaline said:

Your source literally amino and pan, a place full of antis. lol

These were all deleted because they all lies that were tried to be spread by antis. Taehyung did not say such a thing. All was erased because the truth was revealed, people call them out. Are you anti too? Are you Jikook shipper or what?

S

 

8 hours ago, plutto said:

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Yes, it's true that they have said tons of ignorant things back in their rookie days. But for the most of those things they recognized their mistakes and apologized/learned from it. They apologized for their sexist lyrics and started to get advices from gender studies professors.

As for homophobic things they've said, I have to disagree that they've said "a lot". I'm confident that there are only two incidents where they've said anything close to being homophobic: The fansign incident (Yes, it did happen. I remember it) and the one you talked about, with Jimin and J-Hope.

The fansign one was in 2014 or 2015, basically Jimin making a lot of aegyo with Jungkook and Taehyung reacting badly to it. Either what Taehyung said was homophobic or not, I guess it varies from each person's opinion. And even if you see it in the worst way possible (Taehyung implying that Jimin has a "bad mental state" because "he may like guys"), I personally don't think it affects the possibility of him being LGBTQ+. If he was indeed that homophobic back then, it wouldn't make his receipts (his possible journey to self-acceptance as a LGBTQ+ man, remember 'Stigma'?) any less significant.

The Jimin and J-Hope one was in the behind the scenes for something they were shooting for Dark & Wild in 2014. They decided to pretend they were bad boys members of enemy gangs meeting up to fight. I am less induced to believe that they were being serious, which is why I don't care that much about it. And even if they somehow were, then well, that was 6 years ago.

(I have trouble to find the actual video but I guess from this gif you can see what it actually was)

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Also, not related at all with the rest of the topic, but while I'm almost 100% sure Taehyung is LGBTQ+, I'm not as confident with him being completely gay. That's mainly because I know a lot of bi guys who are like him (consuming tons of, if not only LGBTQ+ media, etc.) but are bisexual with great degree of attraction to women.

I wouldn't be surprised if he was 100% gay, tho. I just wouldn't bet on it, don't want another Heechul situation happening lol

Stigma? i think stigma is about depression...

 

I think Jimin and JH are LGBTQ+  because the other members saying that here and there.

 

 

 

[iKnife BurnCat]

On 12/22/2020 at 8:38 AM, Kpop_fan178 said:

Sehun hetero rumors feel like a hate crime.

Also isn't know that many fans start rumors to protect their idols? And how could Suho date Apink Chorong when the guy has been so close and actually has receipts to be dating Donghwan? I think sometimes some people forget that friendship between opposite sex people exist. 

omg I googled donghwan and that's the 1st pic I saw. Suho got taste

 

Edited December 31, 2020 by Sugar Daddy

[Eremit]

20 minutes ago, losetodo said:

 

Stigma? i think stigma is about depression...

 

I think Jimin and JH are LGBTQ+  because the other members saying that here and there.

 

idk why certain shippers always try to spread that Taehyung is homophobic, it wouldn't make any ship more real. He was obsessed with CMBYN last year, he might not be LGBT, we'll probably never know, but he's definitely not homophobic that's ridiculous.

and saying stuff like "I think he likes men" when someone does extra fanservice is so mild...just seems like immature joking to me. Not an indication that anyone involved is gay or homophobic or whatever else.

saying "men don't kiss", that is more problematic to me, but again, JiHope weren't serious and just playing around. And all that was years ago, teenagers can say the dumbest stuff. I'd say there's a lot of evidence that they've all educated themselves over the years.

[Kpop_fan178]

just for the laughs

 

[Kpop_fan178]

Just now, seven said:

Son ho jun is not that public attractive person nor an A-list actor, so yeah... who knows...

I watch kdramas and know a bit about some actors but I am not following them much to sustain an opinion with arguments and receipts. Aside from the general known rumoured actors I don't really have anything to add, but I am always open to thoughts and discussions 

what are the general known rumored actors? i only know about Park Bogum, Yoo Ah In and that couple Jisoo and Nam Joo Hyuk that broke up a few years ago

[TataBoo]

13 minutes ago, Kpop_fan178 said:

just for the laughs

 

Sehun is so cute lmaoooo.

[BYULTENHWALL]

9 hours ago, plutto said:

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Yes, it's true that they have said tons of ignorant things back in their rookie days. But for the most of those things they recognized their mistakes and apologized/learned from it. They apologized for their sexist lyrics and started to get advices from gender studies professors.

As for homophobic things they've said, I have to disagree that they've said "a lot". I'm confident that there are only two incidents where they've said anything close to being homophobic: The fansign incident (Yes, it did happen. I remember it) and the one you talked about, with Jimin and J-Hope.

The fansign one was in 2014 or 2015, basically Jimin making a lot of aegyo with Jungkook and Taehyung reacting badly to it. Either what Taehyung said was homophobic or not, I guess it varies from each person's opinion. And even if you see it in the worst way possible (Taehyung implying that Jimin has a "bad mental state" because "he may like guys"), I personally don't think it affects the possibility of him being LGBTQ+. If he was indeed that homophobic back then, it wouldn't make his receipts (his possible journey to self-acceptance as a LGBTQ+ man, remember 'Stigma'?) any less significant.

The Jimin and J-Hope one was in the behind the scenes for something they were shooting for Dark & Wild in 2014. They decided to pretend they were bad boys members of enemy gangs meeting up to fight. I am less induced to believe that they were being serious, which is why I don't care that much about it. And even if they somehow were, then well, that was 6 years ago.

(I have trouble to find the actual video but I guess from this gif you can see what it actually was)

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Also, not related at all with the rest of the topic, but while I'm almost 100% sure Taehyung is LGBTQ+, I'm not as confident with him being completely gay. That's mainly because I know a lot of bi guys who are like him (consuming tons of, if not only LGBTQ+ media, etc.) but are bisexual with great degree of attraction to women.

I wouldn't be surprised if he was 100% gay, tho. I just wouldn't bet on it, don't want another Heechul situation happening lol

i didnt mean alot of homophobic stuff only, i meant like everything. They were rlly problematic.

I also found out why ppl think taehyung is traditional, its because he said something like his wife has to spend the money he brings home wisely and told a fan not to wear revealing clothes. Like i said i think it was their image back then. other members said something similar too. I think its obvious Suga, V and RM are the most open minded members. I personally dont think any of the bts members are lgb, but if there was it'll most likely be taehyung

[Josaline]

3 hours ago, losetodo said:

 

Stigma? i think stigma is bout depression...

I think Jimin and JH are LGBTQ+  because the other members saying that here and there.

I've been following them since 2014, I've never seen or heard of anything like this. I will not believe in until that you are providing me with the real video with a correct translation. I know the Jikookers and the Tae antis have been spreading such rumors about him for a long time. And you didn't deny that you were the Jikooker anyway. So...

[seven]

2 hours ago, Kpop_fan178 said:

what are the general known rumored actors? i only know about Park Bogum, Yoo Ah In and that couple Jisoo and Nam Joo Hyuk that broke up a few years ago

+ song jong ki, lee jong suk, jo in sung, 2-3 veteran actors and I think other actors that are not so known. Those are the ones that I remember now, but I am sure there are more. Maybe someone else can add to the list

[citroneuse]

On 12/29/2020 at 12:21 AM, Kaider28 said:

What do y'all think about Felix and Hyunjin from Stray kids?

Was reading through some of the older pages and figured I'd jump in.

Stray Kids is so weird to me because I could see any of them being gay/bi, they're very open and they have a lot of content but they're either very private with their personal lives or the fans don't dig as far into them because I feel like I see barely anything regarding dating/sexuality/past relationships for them. I don't think there's a single member where I'd be able to confidently say that they're probably straight lmao

I think Hyunjin is probably the most likely to be gay not gonna lie, if you told me any of the others were straight I'd get it but for Hyunjin I'd be genuinely shocked. Bi Felix is a bit of a meme (?) almost in the fandom to the point where it's basically accepted but like someone else said, it was a fan question about ideal type and while he did include men and women, he also name dropped Changbin at the time where Changlix was part of their pushed ships so I don't really think that's necessarily indicative of anything. They did drop the ship pushing pretty fast though and Felix is still saying and doing things that are "sus" for lack of a better word so there's probably a good chance for him too.

I know this forum seems pretty set on Minho being gay but honestly I don't really see it being as certain as people portray it. The whole "Minho is gay and Jisung is straight and he's into him one-sidedly" is completely manufactured imo and the only reason it's still around is because Minho really pushed the Minsung ship at the beginning while Jisung didn't as much. That video where Minho asked Jisung if he liked him is one of the more popular things people reference but it just looks like typical ship baiting to me, especially because it was recorded content and you can tell that Minho likes pushing that ship as often as possible (not a bad thing, but very noticeable). I do think it's interesting that Jisung is closest to the three members who have the most amount of gay rumours behind them, not necessarily indicative of anything but something to note maybe.

[Taecoholic]

7 hours ago, seven said:

+ song jong ki, lee jong suk, jo in sung, 2-3 veteran actors and I think other actors that are not so known. Those are the ones that I remember now, but I am sure there are more. Maybe someone else can add to the list

+ Lee Joon Ki. But his fans are very protective of him and indeed even rumors are about him very hush hush.

[Passwords]

On 12/29/2020 at 9:21 AM, losetodo said:

V said several times his dream is marry a woman and go around with her and retire in his 40s and dedicate his life to her.

What’s with some people being unable to let got of these almost 8 year old receipts? 8 years ago I was “straight” too even going as far as telling people I could never be with a woman lmao. He has not mentioned a wife in like 5 years and he hadn’t mentioned kids (let alone five like he used to) either in that time frame until this comment below. Obviously light hearted, but it’s quite clear what his views are on having children these days - only a possibility. He could literally SCREAM that he’s not straight and someone would dig up a quote from 2013 or claim him simply showing a song that he wrote years ago as proof. Move on, Taehyung clearly has. 

On 12/29/2020 at 12:21 AM, Kaider28 said:

What do y'all think about Felix and Hyunjin from Stray kids?

Felix isn’t even that debatable for me personally anymore since in he went into detail of his male and female types. I can see it for hyunjin, but bang Chan intrigues me more for some reason...but I’m not a fan so I could be talking absolute bullshit lol 

Edited January 1, 2021 by Passwords

[Taecoholic]

Let's talk about Vmin 

[LostChild]

On 12/29/2020 at 7:45 PM, dumdidumdi said:

Are we on the same thread? Most people here think Tae is gay, I genuinely don't know what you're on about. Even so, I don't remember anything explicitly shippy about BTS here lately, and in general, if there is something shippy people call it out immediately. Sometimes it's even to an extreme, where people can't post something with JK and Jimin for example, because people will immediately say they're shippers, even if what particular moment wasn't ship related at all.

There's nothing wrong with discussing BTS, if you don't want to hear it, don't read the comments. And if you want to talk about another group or idol, just start the conversation. If other people want to talk about it too, they will. It's really not that deep.

I didn’t make this up, just read a few pages back and you’ll see people posting about times where they think he was attracted to girls and theorizing about his supposed feelings for Jimin. Also I don’t think there has ever been an absolute consensus on any idol in here, maybe Jo Kwon and Key aside.

Maybe you don’t remember this but i’ve gone through old pages of this thread and it was literally hell. The thread used to be flooded with Jikook/Taekook back in 2016-2018 and shippers were ridiculously fighting for weeks. It only stopped a few years ago because other users voiced their displeasure and agreed to left ships aside for good. And sorry but I don’t see the point of posting a « moment » between two bandmates, regardless of the group, since 90% of the time that’s fanservice or people wearing their shipping goggles on.

Where did I say it’s wrong to talk about them ? I’m literally talking about them right now. It’s just best to leave shipping outside of the conversation for multiple reasons, especially when it comes to BTS since their shippers are known to have some of the ugliest shipwars.

[LostChild]

On 12/29/2020 at 3:35 PM, plutto said:

Can you fucking not?

If you're so bothered that people are discussing about BTS more right now on this thread then just log off or try to start a discussion about other groups

It's so fucking annoying that people only go "oMG iS ThIs wHIcH Male IDols aRE GaY or wHich BtS memBers are gAY?! " when it's BTS that is being discussed, but no one bats an eye when NCT was the one being discussed for PAGES without stopping. No one gets annoyed, they go on with their lives. But they can't go on with their lives when it's BTS, why is that?

Not too long ago I went through the pages of this thread to find some tea on Seventeen for a friend and all I could find (going back as far as middle 2019) were pages upon pages of NCT being discussed, with some SM idols being thrown here and there. I've been following this thread for a really long time, I only truly care about BTS, but do I complain when they're not the subject? No. I just ignore non-BTS posts and go do something else, while waiting for someone to bring up BTS, someday. I can assure it's not that hard

TL;DR: Your faves aren't the subject of the discussion on this thread? Go do something productive with your life or start discussing about them yourself with people that care about them.

Sorry for the kinda off-topic rant.

Again, where did I say that I was bothered by the discussion on them ? You clearly erased the important part of my quote, I said «  gay and IN LOVE WITH EACH OTHER ». Discuss them all you want but if this thread becomes a copycat of the BTS shipping threads like it used to be three years ago, that’s on you.

I’m not surprised about you only reading for the posts about BTS because if you read the rest of this thread, you would have known that people also complained when this thread was filled with NCT and there was little to no place for discussion about other groups. And while they are my « faves », I didn’t write anything to defend this because i also felt the discussion about them was overwhelming.

Finally I don’t care about people crying that BTS stans don’t have as much room to discuss ships and « moments » since i’ve ALWAYS told that ships are highly irrelevant when discussing any idol or group. I won’t repeat myself on this subject but you can’t accuse me of bias.

[bb8__]

A good start to 2021. Happy New Years!

Edited January 1, 2021 by bb8__

[plutto]

8 hours ago, LostChild said:

Again, where did I say that I was bothered by the discussion on them ? You clearly erased the important part of my quote, I said «  gay and IN LOVE WITH EACH OTHER ». Discuss them all you want but if this thread becomes a copycat of the BTS shipping threads like it used to be three years ago, that’s on you.

I didn't erase anything. You can go back to my post and see that not only I didn't erase that part from your post, I ALSO ADRESSED IT.

You, on the other hand, ERASED THE GREAT PART OF MY POST THAT ADRESSED IT. Hypocrisy much?

Maybe you just couldn't find it. Here, I will repeat it for you!

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Edit: BTW, I know some will try to argue that they're bothered becuase people are discussing BTS ships here.

Well, first of all: there are barely any "shippy" BTS posts in the current discussion. From what I've seen, most people here are aware that ships in BTS are to be taken with a grain of salt/as an aftertought. For example, when someone brought up Jungkook being protective of Taehyung in a show Bogum was in, they didn't imply Taekook was real. They were implying that Jungkook might have noticed that Taehyung was uncomfortable with Bogum's presence (which, while also being a suposition, doesn't need to be read as romantic, either on Tae and Jungkook's side or Tae and Bogum's side).

Second of all: Other groups ships are discussed all the time, too. I'm not saying every post about the idea that two people from the same group might be dating are shippy posts, but for sure other people have more freedom (as in less "having to avoid making it seem as a shippy post") to talk about it than BTS stans here have.

 

9 hours ago, LostChild said:

I’m not surprised about you only reading for the posts about BTS because if you read the rest of this thread, you would have known that people also complained when this thread was filled with NCT and there was little to no place for discussion about other groups. And while they are my « faves », I didn’t write anything to defend this because i also felt the discussion about them was overwhelming.

Yeah, like two times? lol

And it's not even comparable, NCT was being discussed for, as I said, pages upon pages lately. BTS, meanwhile, only got discussed for 3 pages after a very long time of barly no discussion about them before you got bothered (yes, you got bothered. I don't even know why you are trying to deny it, if you weren't bothered you wouldn't make that post in the first place).

And let me say that I don't care if NCT is discussed for pages. As I said, if you want to talk about another group then start the discussion yourself. I'm sorry but you can't stop people from talking about something they're interested about and force them to talk about something they don't care about. What you want people who are only here for NCT or BTS to do? Start to discuss if there are any gay members in Blanc7? Almost no one even know their names lol (no offense for the Blanc7 stans).

 

9 hours ago, LostChild said:

Finally I don’t care about people crying that BTS stans don’t have as much room to discuss ships and « moments » since i’ve ALWAYS told that ships are highly irrelevant when discussing any idol or group. I won’t repeat myself on this subject but you can’t accuse me of bias.

Okay, sweetheart. I hope you have a great year.

[dumdidumdi]

20 hours ago, LostChild said:

I didn’t make this up, just read a few pages back and you’ll see people posting about times where they think he was attracted to girls and theorizing about his supposed feelings for Jimin. Also I don’t think there has ever been an absolute consensus on any idol in here, maybe Jo Kwon and Key aside.

I know. I was one of them. I literally posted about the 1% of my brain that thinks he could possibly be attracted to women and everyone that replied to me said they thought that they think that's not true and he's gay. I don't think reading five pages back is enough for you to say what the general opinion on here is. And since you want to be pedantic, I never said that everyone thinks that he's gay, I said most, so no absolute consensus is necessary.

And there's always going to be that one stan that discovers this thread that thinks their oppas can't possibly be gay so they defend their supposed straightness, but they're not regulars here, so I wouldn't count those as the "people on this thread".

20 hours ago, LostChild said:

Maybe you don’t remember this but i’ve gone through old pages of this thread and it was literally hell. The thread used to be flooded with Jikook/Taekook back in 2016-2018 and shippers were ridiculously fighting for weeks. It only stopped a few years ago because other users voiced their displeasure and agreed to left ships aside for good. And sorry but I don’t see the point of posting a « moment » between two bandmates, regardless of the group, since 90% of the time that’s fanservice or people wearing their shipping goggles on.

Yeah, it used to be worse, but people on here now seem to favor less shippy content, and you were talking about the current state of this thread, not people fighting over ships years ago. In these last few pages only feelings and attraction were mentioned, it's not exactly the same as shipping content. Nobody said "X might have had feelings for Y, so they're obviously dating". And you're free to reply to them and tell them you disagree, but your original comment that I replied to implies that the overwhelming majority was about BTS being in love with each other, and that's not what has been discussed here, if you want to call out a specific shipper, you can do that, but you're making generalizations, the majority of posts aren't about shipping.

20 hours ago, LostChild said:

Where did I say it’s wrong to talk about them ? I’m literally talking about them right now. It’s just best to leave shipping outside of the conversation for multiple reasons, especially when it comes to BTS since their shippers are known to have some of the ugliest shipwars.

I mean we can play that game if you want, when did I say that you said it was wrong to talk about them? Does that sound like a productive conversation? There haven't been shipwars on here in a long time. All I said was that if you want to talk about something else, just talk about something else. No need to shit on what other people find interesting and relevant in a generalized call-out post. There are react and reply functions on here for a reason. Before the BTS conversations nobody discussed them for pages and pages, that's how this thread works. When people reach a conclusion on the subject, they'll stop talking about it and move on to something else. If you want that transition to happen sooner, start the conversation about your faves.

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16 hours ago, Passwords said:

Felix isn’t even that debatable for me personally anymore since in he went into detail of his male and female types. I can see it for hyunjin, but bang Chan intrigues me more for some reason...but I’m not a fan so I could be talking absolute bullshit lol 

agreed on Felix. I'm also not a huge fan of SKZ but Bang Chan has the same vibes as RM for me in that he seems like a good ally who might be open to queer experiences but is mostly straight.